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Why did the axis enter into a war they could have never possibly have won?

Just look at this fucking map, the Nazis barely got out of Europe and never at any point made it to the Americas.
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>>2037239
Most of the americans country only joined when the war was already won aka late 1944-early 1945

Now the nazi didn't actually had to go into all the territories of the world to win : modt of africa was owned by europeans powers for exemple, all that the germans had to do was to defeat the owner in Europe, like they did with France and like they intended to do with Britain. If you had yo conquer ALL of an enemy territory to win a war, then no one woud ever been able to defeat Russia, however Germany did it...
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you do realize in these types of wars its not clear whos on whos side until it already started right? Hitler wasnt even looking for a world war either, he assumed that the polish partition would be appeased because the soviet union also invaded it at the same time. He didnt know that the western powers secretly allied with the soviets.
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>>2037239
Three countries entered a war against three countries
The rest are irrelevant shitter that joined (aka officially chose a side and did nothing else) at the end
Naziboos can GTFO

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Seriously, the bullying against Romanian members of this community is getting way out of hand, especially since Romanian are some of the biggest contributors and most involved in this board.
Its not just "memes" or "banter", its vicious attacking and regardless of intentions it does demean people and hurt feelings. I can't say I'm the only Romanian man who finds it hard to take pride in his own country after having years of constant and needless attacks defaming my heritage from insecure losers here. Why not bully Swedes or Germans? Do they not...
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>>2037173
>romanians
>white
nice meme
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I think Romanian is a pretty cool guy. Eh drinks the blood of teh living and doesnt afraid of anything.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM-T9j2UGXc

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About nazi concentration camps, there are two ideas that clash.

1. The people involved were sadistic, and the nazis wasted manpower, money, resource and time to ensure that the jews, homosexuals, gypsies and slavs suffer and die for purposes of purity and ideology.
2. The people involved were pragmatic, and wanted to force prisoners to work as slaves, so that their labor and production (and hair and teeth filling and confiscated property...) can be uses to aid the german war economy.

If 1 were true, it would suggest that the nazis were okay with being less likely...
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Both
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>>2037090
They are in opposition, you can't have both be the primary goal.
One was the goal, and the other was a tool to achieve that goal.
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>>2037094
In the US, both are the accepted stories.

The nazis rounded up all the jews and undesirables. Tool the able bodied ones and worked them to death, and the elderly, sickly and children and gassed them immediately. Thats holocaust education in the US. The schools dont teach the logistics of the holocaust. They ignore the fact that industrial mass murder was a huge waste of reaources. In school, we were taught. The SS rounded up te jews, put them on trains, sent them to camps. At the camps, you went to the left...
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How did Christianity manage to get this strong a presence in Korea?
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>>2037030
gook stealing white people culture
Japan culture also nanking no real!
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>>2037030
They hated Japan so much they tried to get Jesus involved. Probably.
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USA

Why did it have to leave us?
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>>2037029
because Germans are bullies

and being a bully will always end up with you being destroyed by the power of /kind/ness
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>>2037029
>It was so perfect ;_;
>Why did it have to leave us?

Because the 3. powerful state in europe was a thorn in the eyes of GB and FR but this just ultimately led to the superiority of the US wich is now the szuzaraine of most European states..
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Say what you want but pre cold war germany's borders were Aesthetic as fuck.

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The most successful societies till today were homogeneous, patriarchal and dominant-expansionist (cooperation with lesser cultures is a bad practice)


prove me in the wronging
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>>2037022
explain. which civilizations are you specifically referring too?
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>>2037032

all of them who survived enough to be historically relevant
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>>2037022
Expansionist cultures are actually pretty fucking dogshit and prone to collapsing. Case in point, Rome.

>tfw just want to go back to a life of sustinence farming and being protected by a lord

world is too complicated desu
education, wage slavery, 30 year loans just to have a roof over your head, no guarantee of employment, shitty food that gives you cancer, no town idiot to beat up and make fun of, no arranged marriage with chaste qt peasant girl, no body goes to church any more because they know it's bullshit thanks to mass literacy

/returntofeudalism/ when?
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>>2037020
>Mass literacy is a bad thing
>Arranged marriages are a good thing

You'd probably be the town idiot desu
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>>2037085
>being married off to a qt as soon as finish puberty
>bad

Whatever Chad Thundercock
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> chaste
> peasant
> qt

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When will black people be held responsible for enslaving the jews?
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>>2036891
There's actually no evidence of mass enslavement of jews in Egypt.

The pyramids were built by well-paid skilled labourers rather than slaves.
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>>2037129
Huh, really? To think I always had mild Black Guilt toward the Jews because of watching The Prince of Egypt as a child. Still a great movie though.
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>>2036891
blacks only ruled egypt in the decline of egypt. white men were really to blame desu.

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why do they deny it?

it's historical fact
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Because it gets in the way of Chunky Wigger's profits.

No one actually believes the Armenian Genocide didn't happen, but spewing the lie that it didn't happen keeps the money flowing into the right pockets.
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the term genocide refers to literal killing of people based on some factor dividing factor with the aim of annihilation. turks did what they could to protect themselves. it was a civil war kind situation, too fucked up to understand in european perspective. let me green text.


>be a peasant in east ottoman empire
>armenian gangs attack your village
>defend it
>hear that there are many armenians in coming russian army
>its...
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>>2036607
As a Turk I don't deny the death of 1.5 million Armenians. However I don't call it a genocide either. Are they still alive? Yes they are. Is it therefore a genocide? No it fucking isn't.

3 million Ottomans died during the same time period. Why not call this a double genocide?

The army didn't kill them, the people did. And there must have been a reason for normies to kill them.

People focus on this topic way too much. Why not look at the hundred million Indian Americans that...
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What happened to them? Where did the Roman bloodline go? Ethnic Italians are very much racially different than the ancient Romans, did the genes just die out from years of racial mixing from all sorts of historical events like the mass rapes in the Middle Ages from Muslims conquesters or is the gene still alive today? Thanks in return
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>>2036557
Yes, the same thing happened to Greece. Sad!
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>>2036590
modern Turks are pretty much Islamized Anatolian Greeks.
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>>2036557
you wuz never kangz man

i'm sorry.

snownigger.

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/his/ - philosophy

Notion: happiness is extroversion minus neuroticism.

Debate it.
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>>2036556
So the absence of long term bad moods = happiness? I disagree. I'd say Maslow had it right. When your at the top of the hierarchy of needs, then you are "happy".
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How many layers of irony are you on right now
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define happiness

Why are totalitarian ideologies like Nazism and Communism, which have brought so much suffering and destruction to the world, still so much popular among common people? What drives a rational, sane person to adopt such way of thinking?
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people admire big man with big stick with well defined rules and well defined punishments

liberal democracy boring inoffensive and milquetoast

need big man with big stick to make all those mean people go away
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>What drives a rational, sane person to adopt such way of thinking?

Good times create weak men.
Weak men create bad times.
Bad times create strong men.
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Ideology.
*sniff*

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>it's a barracks emperor thread
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W&B
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>>2036523
Such a dumb way to die. Aurelian and Diocletian get all sorts of credit for bringing Rome out of the crisis of the third century when he was the guy who really got things turned around.

How aware the average German soldier was in, say, 1944 that they are losing the war? Was the reason they still put up a fight that they didn't really know what the situation was on the other fronts and how great the Allied industrial base was compared to theirs? From what we know already, the war was decided by at least 1943. But I suspect most soldiers were unaware of this, otherwise they would have started deserting by the divisions.
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>>2036493
>How aware the average German soldier was in, say, 1944 that they are losing the war?
Fairly well aware. At that time Germany wasn't fighting to win any more but to minimise damage.
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Of course they were aware they were losing. One year you are the masters of Europe, the next you are fighting for your very survival.
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>>2036493
Most were fairly aware that they were losing, especially veterans who had been fighting since the early victories of 1941.

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I thought you said they weren't nordic.
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WE
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WILL
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WIN

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Question to Atheists. What evidence would be enough for you to believe in God and if there is none than how atheisn isn't some kind of blind faith?
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>not believing in something == faith
Stop with this meme
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>>2036349
Yes. Faith is believing in something that happened but have no actual proofs, like holocaust.
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>>2036334

surely, knowing God exists isn't enough. Knowing God exists doesn't entail faith does it?


Atheism isn't blind faith if you think of it as a default position in terms of a view of the world in terms of evidence, using minimal assumptions.

I also think that atheists can't also be seen to have faith in a practical sense because in faith, when you believe in God, it gives you a specific expectation of the future of the world; like heaven, God's love etc. There's an epistemic...
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>i hate all women
what did he mean by this?
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That he was a manlet and women literally laughed at him.
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>>2036303
He knew women.

He realised that they don't understand what loyality, values, nation, religion are. He knew they betray and lie. He knew they're more animal than men, they act on impulse due to their emotions, which cloud their judgment. They will cheat on their boyfriend or husband if this feels right in this moment to them, without thinking about hurting anyone.

The full quote I believe is:
>All women are whores, except my mother, but she's a woman as well.
Emperor...
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>>2036322
>>>/r9k/

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Was the Soviet Union on the right side of history?
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There is no "right" or "wrong" side of history.
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>>2036282
>right side of history
No, it on the left side of history
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>>2036282
Technically, they were on the left side.

>There are people on this board right now who attempt to make good guys and bad guys out of history and only use it as a tool to reaffirm their own political beliefs rather than as an objective study of past events

Was this board doomed to fail before it ever began?
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>>2036195
>NO
>FUN
>ALLOWED
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>>2036195
this board is the spook confirmation range for all the cross board posters from every other board desu
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>>2036195
This board also has people who think self-education is on par to that of actually going to college. The very fact that you are not exposed to other people's interpretation of the material you "learn" already makes it sub-par.

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who would win between Roman Empire and Aztec Empire?

romans are attacking and they are able to carry horses and siege weapons across the Atlantic
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>>2036188
Rome because its' army is folds larger
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>>2036188
Rome because
>roman rule
>stinking guals
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Rome because metalworking

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What other examples of meme empire?

>be Alexander III
>>>the great
>fights only 1 enemy
>conquers another empire lasted for centuries
>no other addition except for Greece
>wowfam.jpg
>Alexander dies
>generals divide "his" land
>didn't last two decades

Why...
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>>2036185

>Holy
>Roman
>Empire

Was neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire
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>>2036185

>Brazilian Empire

Basically just Brazil; though this can only be said in hindsight.
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>>2036185
>fights one enemy
>who is King Porus

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What did they mean by this?
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"Guilty or not guilty?"
"NEIN"
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>>2036064
NICHT
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Thats Göring and Ribbentrop they got death

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These were the best borders of Prussia ever had. The Vienna Congress ruined it.
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>>2036055
>It is not well known that barely a century ago, Prussia, with its then predominantly Slav population, was not considered a German state at all; though its kings, who as princes of Brandenburg were ‘Electors’ of the German Empire, were considered German princes. At the Congress of Vienna, Prussia was registered as a ‘Slav kingdom’; and in 1830 Hegel still spoke52 even of Brandenburg and Mecklenburg as being populated by ‘Germanized Slavs’.

Really makes you think.
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Wrong, those are the best borders of Prussia
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North German Confederation Prussian borders > Polanblob Prussian borders

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How do I go about usurping an extinct aristocratic title?

I don't mean claiming the coat of arms of the most noble and ancient house of Baker, Dukes of Baking and Plenipotentiaries of Wheatflour.

I mean something more on the lines of acquiring a physical title of nobility, doing some genealogical research, and claiming to have been born to that dead dynasty in a country where records are poorly kept. Maybe my "parents" were born in a French or British colony where records are very poorly kept, etc.
Would require some creative documentation.

What...
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I think this one would compliment my complexion nicely
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Bump, surprised there aren't more experts on title usurption, fausse noblesse and identity fraud around here
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Just send your chancellor to fabricate some claims for the title you want. Once you get the claim than just declare war for it and if you win than gg, you're a count now.

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The original empire. The one that everyone else was trying to copy, but failed miserably every time.
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>>2035855
Honestly, if there was ever race of people who deserved to genocided and persecuted for 3000 years it was the assyrians.
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>>2035855
their only mistake was not sacking Jerusalem
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>>2035875
were the assyrians really exceptionally cruel or is this just a bible meme

How did Germans contribute to the fall of Rome ?
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the goths sacked rome
franks invaded gaul
vandals invaded northern africa
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>>2035566
>How did Germans contribute to the fall of Western Civilization
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>>2035747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY&t

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>There are no attractive women from the fortie-
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>This isn't a shitty mem-
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>>2035404
>Getting abducted before even saying cand-
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>>2035411
I completely forgot candle jack was a meme

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It seems a lot of people in history associated working for wages to be associated with everything from servitude to immorality.

Cicero called it wage slavery.
>"...vulgar are the means of livelihood of all hired workmen whom we pay for mere manual labor, not for artistic skill; for in their case the very wage they receive is a pledge of their slavery."

Thomas Jefferson said that some jobs are nessissary and wanted, but that industrialization is undesirable, and that factories should stay in Europe and not corrupting Americans...
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“I could not affirm,” says the father of history, Herodotus, “whether the Creeks derived from the Egyptians the contempt which they have for work, because I find the same contempt established among the Thracians, the Cythians, the Persians, the Lydians; in a word, because among most barbarians, those who learn mechanical arts and even their children are regarded as the meanest of their citizens. All the Greeks have been nurtured in this principle, particularly the Lacedaemonians.”

“At Athens the citizens were veritable nobles who had to concern themselves but with the defense and the administration of the community, like the savage warriors from whom they descended. Since they must thus have all their time free to watch over the interests of the republic, with their mental and bodily strength, they laid all labor upon the slaves. Likewise at Lacedaemon, even the women were not allowed to spin or weave that they might not detract from their nobility.”

The Romans recognized but two noble and free professions, agriculture and arms. All the citizens by right lived at the expense of the treasury without being constrained to provide for their living by any of the sordid arts (thus, they designated the trades), which rightfully belonged to slaves. The elder Brutus to arouse the people, accused Tarquin, the tyrant, of the special outrage of having converted free citizens into artisans and masons.
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>>2035410
The ancient philosophers had their disputes upon the origin of ideas but they agreed when it came to the abhorrence of work. “Nature,” said Plato in his social utopia, his model republic, “Nature has made no shoemaker nor smith. Such occupations degrade the people who exercise them. Vile mercenaries, nameless wretches, who are by their very condition excluded from political rights. As for the merchants accustomed to lying and deceiving, they will be allowed in the city only as a necessary evil. The citizen who shall have degraded himself by the commerce of the shop shall be prosecuted for this offense. If he is convicted, he shall be condemned to a year in prison; the punishment shall be doubled for each repeated offense.”

In his Economics, Xenophon writes, “The people who give themselves up to manual labor are never promoted to public offices, and with good reason. The greater part of them, condemned to be seated the whole day long, some even to endure the heat of the fire continually, cannot fail to be changed in body, and it is almost inevitable that the mind be affected.” “What honorable thing can come out of a shop?” asks Cicero. “What can commerce produce in the way of honor? Everything called shop is unworthy an honorable man. Merchants can gain no profit without lying, and what is more shameful than falsehood? Again, we must regard as something base and vile the trade of those who sell their toil and industry, for whoever gives his labor for money sells himself and puts himself in the tank of slaves.”

Plato and Aristotle wish the citizens of their ideal republics to live in the most complete leisure, for as Xenophon observed, “Work takes all the time and with it one has no leisure for the republic and his friends.” According to Plutarch, the great claim of Lycurgus, wisest of men, to the admiration of posterity, was that he had granted leisure to the citizens of Sparta by forbidding to them any trade whatever.
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NEET masterrace

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Anyone got any good books about the Mongolians or any particular figures from Mongolia that are interesting?

I'd like to learn more about them in general.

Picture not really related.
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>>2035386
they were tolerant and progressive if you ignore the mass rape, genocide, and cultural destruction they conducted across the largest landmass on earth
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>>2035393
So sort of like this?
>Wander to an area because sheep are hungry
>See good food and wimmins.
>"HEY GUYS LOOKS LIKE A GOOD TIME"
>Grabs handful of food and a tit.
>"Don't be a fucking cuckservative, let's all have a good time"
>Slits husband's throat
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>>2035402
Yep and liberals celebrate this because they weren't white

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So I have three scenarios and I want to know what would happen.
Sceneario 1 Hitler stops after Czechoslovakia and does not attack Poland.
Scenario 2 same as above but Russia invades Poland.
Scenario 3 same as above but Germany, UK, and France ally to fight the commies, but the nazis have a secret alliance and the Germans betray england, and france, they manage to surprise everyone and invade France and destroy both the British änd french expeditions. How would the uk react or the Americans?
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>>2035307
I think the first 2.5 scenarios would prolly lead to one another. The Russian invasion would no doubt be later and only if communist sentiments were something that gave Stalin a reason to expand.

But why would Hitler betray his allies?
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>>2035361
He wants revenge fôr ww1 but really I made it becaûse it's so unexpected nazis hated soviets. So I'm curious what everyone's reactions would be if something out of left field happened.
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>>2035307

this isn't /althis/

>>>/x/


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