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How was the PLA, still on the heels of fighting a civil war, so effective against a coalition of some of the most modern & well equipped armies in the world?
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Zerg rush
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>>2017705
the PLA took pretty horrendous casualties.
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>>2017711
These pretty much. Sheer numbers is all there was to it.

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I often see hate for utilitarianism here and I don't know why. So what are the flaws of utilitarianism
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>>2017704
utilitarianism is a subset of classical liberalism, itself a subset of liberalism, which is just shit society.
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>>2017731
Why
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>>2017704
Anthropocentrism.
By focusing on what's best for us we misinterpret the causal relationships with world around us. To see ourselves as the system rather than one of the many interdependent constituents of the system. It places no intrinsic value on non sentient life or biodiversity.
In today's day of ecological understanding, an anthropocentric wordveiw isn't just outdated, it's an evolutionary anachronism

>>2017704
Anthropocentrism.
By...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

http://newsexaminer.net/food/mcdonalds-to-open-restaurant-run-by-robots/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2016/04/25/surprisingly-these-10-professional-jobs-are-under-threat-from-big-data/#7c437b284e10

https://www.ft.com/content/0c85c3f8-8691-11e3-885c-00144feab7de

I sure hope none of you or your relatives work as a truck driver. Or a taxi driver. Or driver of any kind. Or a loader. Or a fast-food industry worker. Or a paralegal. Or a lower-end manger. Or a blue-colar of any kind, aside from maybe...
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great history thread
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If a great depression is back on the menu than that means fascism is too.

Can't wait until I get my SS uniform and am allowed to harass shitskins.
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>>2017594
mmm sexy

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Was he for low taxes and smaller government?
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>>2017344
No. He was totally the big government type.
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>>2017344
Big government, high tariffs that screwed over the South, unconstitutionally large role of the president
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wouldn't know his true policy since big ass civil war

but he did make the gov't bigger to solve said war

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Why is he so brilliant and influential?
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Ashkenazi genetics
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maybe 100 years ago
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>brilliant
He wasn't, in fact he was a retard

>influential
Lots of retards in the world

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I must write an essay. What themes do you recommend?
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>>2017134
Aztec culture.
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>>2017134
The fearsome Italian army
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>>2017134
Nicky.

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You will never be greater than him
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>Spain fell to his [Caesar's] lot as quaestor; when there, as he was going the circuit of the province, by commission from the praetor, for the administration of justice, and had reached Gades, seeing a statue of Alexander the Great in the temple of Hercules, he sighed deeply, as if weary of his sluggish life, for having performed no memorable actions at an age at which Alexander had already conquered the world. He, therefore, immediately sued for his discharge, with the view of embracing the first opportunity, which might present itself in The City,...
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>>2017104
That's interesting and somewhat inspiring, thank you
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>alexander the """"""""""""""""""""""great""""""""""""""""""""""""""

This is the oldest photo on the internet.
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Not likely. Its editing is too modern.
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>>2017060
and the women were already skanks and men already betas trying to please them.
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>>2017097
http://gizmodo.com/5924748/heres-the-first-picture-ever-posted-on-the-internet

How would have the Romans dealt with Islamic terrorism?
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They'd start by losing Africa and the Near East. Then they would go to and fro in Anatolia for a few centuries, before losing that too. Finally, they would lose Constantinople.
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/wetasoctober/
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They would persecute the muslims, then the emperor converts to Islam to avoid a civil war and within one generation everyone is muslim. This is what they did with the christians, so why not with the muslims ?

Is Eliezer Yudkowsky the most rational person alive?
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>>2016801
No, he's nothing but a meme
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>>2016801
who are we to judge whether or not someone is the most rational person alive? to be able to say so would require a level of rationality that is perfect which would make you the most rational person or am i wrong
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>>2016834
Would a "meme" have written a 120 chapter Harry Potter fanfiction about science?

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Why Native Americans and Australian Aborigines were not as technologically advanced as Europeans?
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didn't have useful animals to domesticate (among other reasons)
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isolation. the eurasian strip in general was where modern civilization as we know it formed. australia, the americas and sub saharan africa were mostly or completely isolated from these trade routes.
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Inferior race, anything other is just rationalizations to not admit the truth.

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Hi /his/, is there a comprehensive work that talks about what the founding fathers really wanted for the nation? I'd prefer an unbiased overview that also provides a perspective into the individual views of each of them, instead of talking about them as a group that totally agreed on everything. Bonus: also a treatment of concessions they made for the purpose of finding common ground, and/or the context behind various decisions they made or views they had (eg. the establishment clause, sacrificing freedom for tmp. safety etc.)

When looking stuff up, all I usually...
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Nothing's unbiased. Everything has a point of view. What they wanted is less important than what they got. Because a lot of what they got was compromise on top of being fucking lucky as hell it all didn't fall apart on them sooner.

The most unbiased works you can read are the writings of the founding fathers themselves. The federalist papers for example or Notes of the debates in the fedearl convetion of 1787 reported by james madison.

But even these have their own biases. And even if what is written says something, what is not written could say even...
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>>2016784
About bias, fair enough, but it's worth striving for still imo. What they wanted may not be important in the grand scheme of things, but a lot of people venerate whatever it is they think the FF wanted, and I find the topic interesting either way, esp. how we ended up with so many misconceptions about their intentions.
>a lot of what they got was compromise
I assumed as much, which is why I'm interested. I believe a lot of nuance got lost in the process.
>on...
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>>2016731
I think they were just like most people, and each had their individual things they wanted or desired in a new nation. It was quite remarkable that they came together as well as they did.

Was the Holy Roman Empire simply a case of Stockholm syndrome?

>Germans conquer Romans

>Germans start thinking they are Rome 2.0
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>>2016505
>Germans conquer Romans
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>>2016505
Uhm, stockholm syndrome works the other way around.
The Romans would have started thinking they were Germans.
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That's not what happened, and that's also not what Stockholm syndrome is.

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I googled "u fugger" as a joke and found this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugger

>powerful banking clan
>replaced the Medici family
>financed the Habsburgs
Branches are "Fugger of the Deer" and "Fugger of the Lily"
>REALLY rich

Jacob Fugger had a monopoly on the European copper market and had a net worth between 277 and 400 modern US dollars.

Why have I never heard of these Fuggers?
What...
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They jewe'd the habsburgs
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>>2016488
How so?
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>>2016483
>Why have I never heard of these Fuggers?
You seam to be murican since you count in dollars
They bought the Habsburg the Emperorship with their money. Became nobels(atleast one branch)
Jacob Fugger d.Ä. (I hope it was him and not his son) was while being rich as fuck,literaly the richest man in the HRE, impotent and wasn't able to make an heir.
Other than the medici they never sized direct political Power but had a huge influence onthe Habsburgs

The republic still lives. Reborn in 1776.
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>>2016325
speak of the devil
>United
>States
>of America
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1/10 bait got me to reply to it
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>>2016325
>united

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Why does the word "tyranny" or "despotism" bring more negative connotations in Western society than "monarchy" or "oligarchy"?
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Monarchies and oligarchies are at least constitutional states with a modicum of stability.
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>>2016183

oligarchy is just as bad.

monarchy is kind of bad, but most people think of a disney princess when they hear it so its good. Also, at least here in america, its such a foreign concept that its a joke to us. Like no one imagines anything other than a medieval king when they think of monarchy. Might as well be talking about cavemen witch doctors
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Well going off a Platonic framework, a "monarchy" is not inherently bad. You can have a good king, after all. But "tyranny" directly means that your monarch is a bad one.

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If nuclear weapons for whatever reason were never developed and the US and USSR ended up in a conventional war what would happen? What if war started immediately after Japan either got either conquered, or surrendered to the US roughly around the same time it did in our timeline, so it wouldn't have its genes impurified by slavic pig blood? What if the war started a decade or two later?

Or give your own scenarios idc.

Also any decent alt history stories or articles on this?
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We most likely wouldn't be having this talk online.
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if the battle took place immediately after Japan surrendered, then I could see Japan allying with the US and German POW being released and allying with the US. Soviets were in bad shape after the war ended, resulting in over 22 million casualties. US wins.

If the war broke out two decades after WW2, then it could go either way.
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>it's 1950
>Japan had surrendered to the Soviet Union after their bumrape of Manchuria and surrounding areas, as the US never dropped the bombs and didn't launch their invasion if mainland Japan on time
>Japan is Communist
>Soviets find and kill the Emperor of Japan because damn dirty imperialist
>sparks anti-communist movement
>eventually Civil War
>America...
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So why did the real Serbian army just withdraw and leave the war to a small force of underequipped and poorly-positioned rednecks?

They were right at the capital, what gives?
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>>2015825
Milosevic, the Serbian president, was politically isolated and couldn't risk U.N. intervention. So he just funded/inflamed the Serbs living in Croatia (and there was a significant number of them) to do the fighting for him. Croatia employed a similar strategy during the Bosnian civil war, where at first they funded Croats in southern Bosnia to fight the Croat army.
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>>2016750
*funded Croats in southern Bosnia to fight the Bosnian army
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>>2016750
>>2016754

They'd already gotten pretty far though, right? And international opinion swung in like 93', way after the militias were the main fighting force. At first everyone wanted to stay out of it.

The Serbs could have won that war, sued for peace and then dropped everything so the RS could fight for itself and avoid international attention a little longer. I maintain that this was a miscalculation by Milosevic.

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Why did whites invent slavery?
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>>2015610
cheap labor.
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>>2015610
Because we invented everything
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>>2015610
because they didn't

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Any Confucianists on here?
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>picture of Laozi looking smug
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>not being a patrician Mohist
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>>2015294
>>2015294
Tengriist or feel the fist

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>Put an end to the third century crisis
>Zenobia BTFO
>Germanic tribes BTFO
>Builds a fucking wall around Rome

Aurelian is so based. Is he the Trump of the Roman Empire?
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Also, what do you think about his wall?
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>>2014491
Looks like ass. 2/10 would not scale
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>>2014486
We won't know until Trump assumes office and actually enacts policies.

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How accurate is their interpretation of Islam? Would the Rightly Guided Caliphs be appalled by their actions? Or are they just the actions of the 7th century being brought into the first?
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>>2014170
Would dark age desert warlords find beheadings and torture appalling? No. Neither would 19 century Englishmen and French. And well, the shit that went on during ww2 in the time of your grandparents is much more hardcore than this isis shit.
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>>2014209
>einsatgruppen putting bullets in skulls is the same as suspending people over gasoline flames
idk
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>>2014170
>Or are they just the actions of the 7th century being brought into the first?

Evidently not, since they're being committed by people in the 21st century.

ISIS aren't that special, they're just poorly educated farmers in a power vacuum being whipped up by run of the mill nutjobs. Groups like them tend to crop up sooner or later.

There seems to be a tilt over whether the Scythians were Iranic or Turkic. In Turkey, most people are taught they are Turkic but in the West they are taught as Iranic. Which is correct?
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>>2014083
no it is not.
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It's pretty much proven they were Iranic (speaking)
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>>2014083

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Explain. Now.
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An autistic viking Ogre got domed by an Acme gun and nobody knows who did it but it was probably a butthurt nobleman.

(This is literally the only thing I know about Swedish history and it's because of this song)
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Quest metal and historical immersion are fun

AHEAD
FACING THEIR LEAD
AN ARMY OF SWEDES
PERFORMING GOD'S DEEDS
SHOWING NO FEAR
THEIR JUDGEMENT IS NEAR
MAKING THEIR SACRIFICE
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Paradox Games house band.

You are President Truman with two brand new nukes at your disposal-

Where do you drop them in Japan? Not allowed to pick Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Why?
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>>2012162
drop one on Okinawa and the second one on the Ryu Kyu Islands
>why for the keks
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ontario and toronto
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>>2012203
nice choice anon! japan's really gonna think twice next time

What would actually happen after a nuclear war? The world and the US have been nuked to shit, how does life go on after that? Does the goverment have a plan? How does it retain control of whats left of the nation? Would this hypothetical war be continued? How does anyone move on after the event?

Tbh I've always thought it would be like Fallout, small communities dot the wasteland and the survivors try to scrape by on what they can, factions arise, remnants of the goverment or army try to regain control of what's not really their's abymore, and a new world...
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Humanity would be about as fucked as we have ever been fucked. It really depends on the nations involved though. If say North Korea and China got into it for example, NK would be a giant crater and the single nuke that NK maybe has would go off course and hit Japan probably.

If any of the major nations fought a nuclear war with each other we would be talking life changing alterations to climate, much less the direct devastation caused by the blasts. We're talking thousands of nukes here.
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>>2011747
>tfw born too late to fight for Caesar
>tfw born to early to fight for Caesar
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As >>2011758 said there are a lot of variables that could lead to vastly different outcomes. If you are talking about all the nuclear-equipped nations releasing their entire arsenals at once it would be pretty bleak.

Hundreds of millions of people would die in the initial bombing, and potentially hundred of millions or even billions more would die off in the following weeks due to radiation and starvation, modern H-bombs don't leave long-term radiation like older A-bombs do so it would fortunately be over rather quickly.
Things...
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share their ancient craft
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Inca stone
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>>1998362
what did he mean by this?
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The maya made nice cities of stone

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If history is written by the victors where were all of the mongolian historians?
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>>2021795
Maybe only the one who writes history is the victor
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Why didn't the Mongols invade India? They could have vastly improved its gene pool.
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>>2021810
They actually got BTFO.

The Mongorrs are only efficient in wide open spaces. They get rekt whenever there are more than 10 trees per square mile. Which is why the usual comments of "the mongols could've invaded Yurope!!" are so retarded.

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If God and eternal life aren't real, is life meaningless? Why does anything matter if we're all going to die?
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>>2017971

I don't understand why people think that if something doesn't last forever, then it doesn't mean anything. Death is what gives our lives their meaning, only when someone is dead can you gauge how meaningful their lives were. Change is what makes life worth living, only by coming to an end do the good times really stand out from the rest. Stasis and eternity are infantile desires, to be human is to change and to die.
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>>2017981

your meaning is completely subjective though.
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>>2017981
And in a way, paradoxical

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Why did fascism despise intellectuals?
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Because Marxism is the opiate of the intellectual.
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>>2016807

Authoritarian folks often are. Don't like being questioned or critiqued if it doesn't fit within their world view
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>>2016807
Ever tried to argue with a fascist? Then you know why they hate intellectuals.


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