For the record, I can't draw at all.
But I think we need our first couple OC and some ideas to throw around for making history-chan
now, naturally, as a /pol/ack and like many here, I'd prefer a European styled character but that still leaves the following for discussion.
>What era costume?
>should /his/ even have a board tan at all?
artists welcome ofc.
/his/ should be a white Greek statue
>but anon that's a statue from the Renaissance
Like I give a fuck
Maybe a roman consul style of clothing? It can be argued that romans are the most beloved amongst us all and wildly regarded as the forefathers of most nations that people who browse /his/ are from.
The fascio should obviously not be a part of it, since we're trying to crate a new identity for the board other than /pol/ 2.0.
Not to mention we all disdain plebs, love war, knowledge, order and take pride on each and every achievement of our respective civilizations. We're all romans in spirit.
/his/ should be the most aesthetic board
It's obvious you're from /pol/ because "board-tans" are gay as shit.
>It's obvious you're from /pol/ because "board-tans" are gay as shit.
every board including /aco/ has one
>Yeah nah. Only in the minds of people who write fanfiction about internet message boards.
What? Are you disagreeing with my statement that all the other boards have them? What are you saying nah to?
>Divine rights of kings
This battle has crossed onto /his/, and it still isn't ending, get out of here Charlie, and take your savages from North of Atonine wall who just happened to be Catholics with you
We need to draw up a list of general concepts we want in a tan.
So far the main ideas seem to be:
>Dresses differently depending on which age or place the tan is supposed to be in.
>Facial hair of some sort
/his/ immediately suggests "hispanic", perhaps even before it suggests "history".
Therefore, a board-kun should be of hispanic extraction; this flavor also specifically connects old world with new, and acknowledges the pervasive violence of history.
Our -kun should be like a Quixote or a Cortez.
Maybe as a sidekick he can have the girl from Las Meniñas.
This but cuter, and even more sunk into the coat and shorter
Needs the Napoleon hat and coat
how about just pic related?
maybe even the hat too big so it keeps falling over her eyes or something
>antiquity wankers trying to force marble on us
Where my 19th and early 20th century bros at
Though a female /his/-tan makes my dick rock solid, /his/ should be male.
A neckbeard wearing a Deus Vult or SPQR t-shirt.
Or we couls get Indiana Jones as a board tan.
I like the idea of Quixote as /his/ mascot, tilting at windmills could be construed as charging at things that aren't there, ie. not citing your sources and generally being a massive shitposter and detriment for us all
>/his/ immediately suggests "hispanic", perhaps even before it suggests "history".
What the fuck
Why the fuck would you make a boardtan (which is fairly autistic already) without any idea of what your board-culture is going to be like?
Of course, if you're all from /pol/ then you should just draw a lonely, warped pseudo-redneck.
Suitable compromise for Napoleonfags as well
I think it should be inspired by Stephen Maturin somewhat.
At least the glasses.
WAIT COMBINE IT ALL
LOLI MARBLE STATUE WEARING NON-MARBLE CLOTHING WITH A HERODOTUS FATHER FIGURE
Seconding this, older bearded statue with a loli companion.
is historia one of those kid workers from the industrial revolution?
So who's the lucky board-tan who gets to go to the ball with this wonderful gal?
>Non-ironically believing the jews should die
I don't care about Jews. I have Jewish family, they are just normal people.
>black people are inferior
I think a lot of black culture is inferior to western culture in terms of yielding results. I don't think blacks are intrinsically inferior though.
>muslims are automatically bad people
Collective guilt is a retarded concept.
Could be, she could just dress depending on time and place.
Problem with many of these suggestions is that /his/ isn't just for discussion of wars and shit, its also for the arts and sciences of history. Picking any conqueror would really shoe horn /his/ into a role that may or may not fit it quite. It should be able to represent all the various factors of this board, the arts, sciences, politics, and battles.
So... I think its safe to consider this the "concept" art for our two tans?
Good work boys. Actually coming to a decent conclusion that pleases enough people.
How about Diogenes of Sinope?
>"It was in Corinth that a meeting between Alexander the Great and Diogenes is supposed to have taken place. The accounts of Plutarch and Diogenes Laërtius recount that they exchanged only a few words: while Diogenes was relaxing in the sunlight in the morning, Alexander, thrilled to meet the famous philosopher, asked if there was any favour he might do for him. Diogenes replied, "Yes, stand out of my sunlight". Alexander then declared, "If I were not Alexander, then I should wish to be Diogenes." In another account of the conversation, Alexander found the philosopher looking attentively at a pile of human bones. Diogenes explained, "I am searching for the bones of your father but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave.""
>"Diogenes arrived in Athens with a slave named Manes who abandoned him shortly thereafter. With characteristic humor, Diogenes dismissed his ill fortune by saying, "If Manes can live without Diogenes, why not Diogenes without Manes?""
>"He used to stroll about in full daylight with a lamp; when asked what he was doing, he would answer, "I am just looking for an honest man." Diogenes looked for a human being but reputedly found nothing but rascals and scoundrels."
/pol/ would be consumed with lust, /k/ would probably treat her to a bouquet of old knives, /sci/ would have a jealous grudge for reasons regarding religion and historical mad scientists.
>board isn't even one day old yet
>people already trying to make a -tan
Holy fuck, guys. Please at least wait until the board has a small amount of culture, or else an anthropomorphized version of this place will have absolutely no meaning.
pulling random pics off the net cuz i can't draw
Have another version of the loli Stalin I just happened to have.
Two things. First, I"m a white not-hispanic blue-eyed guy. Second, I don't have any special affinity for hispanic people, but the suggestion of the board's name is obvious.
It really bothers me that so many people replied to my suggestion with immediate, wincing, reaction-image "no"s. It bothers me so much, because quite the opposite of entertaining the idea that my suggestion was poor (it wasn't), it leads me immediately to conclude that a lot of people who will be using this board in the future can't make dumb-simple obvious connections.
Some dude in a Spanish helmet. Makes total sense given the abbreviation of the board.
Also, the name of the group will be "The Fantastic Four". And I am Mr. Fantastic.
Still no. Making the character intrinsically representative of Latin America is silly since what is applicable to it is not really applicable to other countries. You need generic characters which can fit into many situations.
/his/ should be like an old storyteller
regaling his audience of tales from the past
Two is retarded, the idea is to have a single mascot that encompasses the whole board.
I like the idea of the marble bust or statue that's been mentioned a bunch of times. It's got it's root in antiquity, which was an important time not just in Western history itself, but for all the humanities.
Well I can certainly imagine them having a healthy relationship if not arguing about with era was the bomb
>tfw we can't discuss the fall of the Soviet Union for another year
Guys, seriously. You're just putting random bullshit together at this point to make an overcomplicated clusterfuck of a mascot or even mascots that will never accurately represent the board culture unless you actually took some time to wait instead of just jumping on this instantly.
Give the board some damn time.
But that's not aesthetic or cute at all.
Literally the worst of both worlds.
No. The LAST thing I want is other boards draw threads designing our tan. And they will almost immediately if we dont.
do you really want a loli hitler as our tan if the /pol/ drawthread thinks about us?
Using your analogy, no -tan could ever have been created. d-tan has hair-tentacles and a nice domme outfit, but /d/ has other fetishes going on. (in particular, dickgirls). x-tan doesn't have any real reason to be wearing rainbow thigh-highs except young men like the idea. In pic related, /co/ is some gumshoe type, but there are other characters in comics and cartoons, of course.
Admittedly, other more specific boards are more one-dimensional. A porn board is only ever a porn board for one particular genre, usually. Cuteposting is only ever cute posting, so it can be anthropomorphized more straightforwardly.
You can't be all things to all people. You have to pick a cohesive design. That said, now I think I get why my suggestion was so immediately "NO'D" - as one person has already admitted "it's not me".
As others have pointed out, people need some weeks and months to understand what the board is going to be before they can settle around some concept.
A moving marble statue dressed in a military suit with a pirate hat, a longsword sheaved on his back and a book of everything in his left, and a pocket watch on his right.
So, We've got Historia who is a Socrates looking motherfucker and we've got Herodotus who is..?
What? A loli?
Won't she have to have a unique hair style for the different clothes?
/his/toria needs to be the main board-tan because the board is called /his/. /her/odotus can be her dad
As for the ancient vs modern thing, just dress her up differently too.
I'm not too keen on making her a permanent loli, it should depend on the artist because history depends on the writers, har har.
Why would some faggot in some drawthread somewhere designing a retarded character matter to us? We could just not use it.
Seriously, just wait. There's no cohesive relation or connection between any of the shit you people are saying, it's just completely fucking random.
I suggest number 49. Blonde, obviously.
I really doubt a board tan would catch on with other boards if the board itself doesn't want to use it. Just calm down, give it some time, and we'll come back together when the board has enough of a definite identity to create a character. It's better than putting together a cesspool of shit we'll regret eternally on the first day.
I don't know if you're serious or not, anyway thanks for the chuckle.
No, you come on, this will only guarantee the infestation of this board.
I mean shit, you know very well that they will "get friendly" and start ebin lolocaust threads in order to "illuminate" the board.
Besides, if you REALLY want such -tan you can make it yourself, there are many board OC characters out there, it wouldn't be the first.
Enjoy my chicken scratches
I used to do the same with [s4s] for a bit but I want to contribute something quick to /his/.
>someone drew something so that's how it really was
While this mirrors a similar attitude towards credible historical sources I am going to again ask you to fuck off back to /pol/ and never return
Well what do history/humanities students wear? Turtlenecks?
If she's an animated marble statue Pygmalion style, she can still wear other stuff, only her skin is white and her eyes are blank
/his/-tan needs to be a female because the name of the board is /his/ and the name Historia is too perfect
Perhaps the loli could be be in a more modern fashion style rather than just the industrial overalls. Also while having Euro focus is appropriate for the board, there has been some Oriental discussion happening on the board. Along with the boards founding coming from An hiro, and our board being hosting on a rip off of a Japanese imageboard, I'd like for the loli to have some small references to the East. Maybe a textbook on Easter history?
THE BOARD TAN SHOULD BE A CHESTNUT BROWN AKKADIAN PRINCESS LOLI
>Not Euro or Eastern centric
>No other brown board tans
>Not claimable by a single nationality
We need to build a loli without borders, no modern ideology, no faith, she will be our outer haven.
Just shooting an idea out for the loli-tan.
You guys can make your own here.
That's fucking stupid.
How about a Marble loli who's head has fallen off and she needs to carry it around?
Why are you guys so insistent on the loli.
Just drop it, it's going to be a bad idea.
Even if we do make two characters the loli will become the more popular and everyone on other boards will totally forget about the other. We need to have our own character which distinguishes us.
How about a guy with different body parts representing different time periods? Like a marble statue for a head, an arm wearing knight armour, and so forth, sort of like some kind of Frankenstein? Too stupid?
I agree with this, we should represent something significant rather than trying to group everything together into one pile of shit that makes no sense. It'll be much more direct.
We shouldn't use a loli though, it's overused and we need to distinguish ourselves. In my opinion an old philosopher would work the best for that.
Alright you guys, we really don't need two. Two separate tans as two separate entities is too complex for what we need, and one will get all the focus. If you want both the loli and the marble man, the below are the best options
They would be one and never be separate. Otherwise, it's got to just be one. The marble idea has to stay. If it is one, the best options are either a marble man like a Socrates figure, or something a little more playful like >>12938
>all these people wanting a loli
The only way in which that makes sense is that this is a new board, but dressing up a loli in old clothing is a poor excuse for a character.
An old as fuck philospher marble statue guy gets the point of the board being about history across much better being that's it's discussing old stuff, and you could dress him up in any sort of attire and he's still be recognizable, especially considering the fact that other boards already have lolis, but none have an old dude
Because that's a really stupid idea and doesn't set up a direct and distinct identity for the character, just a really poor attempt to make it fit into everything possible.
Plus people will always accept one absolute version of the character as the default anyway so there's no point. Which is exactly why we can't have two board tans. One will inevitably become more popular than the other, and the other will pretty much fall into irrelevance. This is the biggest reason I REALLY don't want any loli characters, because they would totally overshadow the other.
Every single other board has a loli. It's so unoriginal it's lost all of its charm and purpose. We need something new and real for god's sake, not just pandering to the current norm.
And who says an old rambling philosopher can't be entertaining?
and an old guy could have a much more interesting personality than some generic loli.
And if you ever consider comics involving multiple other board-tans, and old guy thrown into the mix makes for a more diverse situation than just another similar character.
Besides, doesn't /his/ want to be more mature in other boards in by discussing history and such? Why would you pick some cutesy little girl to represent that rather than a wise experienced old-timer who wants to discuss philosophy and the likes
But every culture in history has seen age and experience as a symbol of knowledge. An old man displays that perfectly, and a rambling old man especially would add a perfect new mix of chemistry into the currently existing board tan structure.
>implying women can grasp philosophy and discuss history
Really though, it just doesn't seem as fitting as an old guy.
The only way I'd be ok with this is if it entailed marble statue porn, and enough of it in good quality to be worthwhile to pass up the better tan option
>marble white girl modeled after pic related
this is still an anime image board after all
In the book Genji abducts Murasaki when she's like nine and trains her into becoming his wife/lover because she reminds him of someone who reminded him of his own mother. Murasaki later dies of spiritual possession.
I want Historia to be a war craving loli.
Kinda like /k/ but as a loli and with war instead of guns.
Going to be a little off-topic what do you think of this as our logo?
Since /pol/ has one why not us.
>/Her/ pondering the meaning of life
>/his/ in Spartan armor going off to war
>/her/ in the thinking man pose contemplating the effect of Christianity on the course of history
>/his/ in Crusader outfit saying DEUS VULT
>/her/ in a suit discussing how industrial technology is affecting the scociety
>/his/ in a redcoat outfit trying out the new guns
>/her/ discussing the effects of the First world war and how the second is soon to come
>/his/ in a tank in the background saying "THIS IS FUN WEEEE~!"
I want a super serious deep thinker paired with a battle loli.
We're at bump limit, so now that we've discussed it, let's wait. Save the OC from the thread and post again at a later date, let's say, for organization's sake, exactly a week from now about what the tan should be.
this with a speech bubble rambling on about jesus.
Latin American history
I can see it as
/his/-tan - Historia - marble girl, variable age (I prefer young woman but hey)
/her/ - Herodotus - marble man, dad, supporting cast
Historia sometimes gets colored (marble statues were brightly colored in their day) but her constant identifying feature will be blank eyes
She sometimes wears a fake beard to pass as male because reasons
Aliases are Historius or Historion, Ishtar when she goes Middle East
Weird Wild Western theme cause "lol western porn" too.
Ok. I pick Both. Think of the benefits.
>winter ball solved since they can go with each other, no other boards and their autism involved.
>loli bros satisfied
>ancient marble bros satisfied
>OC ideas more flexible with the two characters
>literally no downside other than one might get more OC than the other, in which case people will notice and make more of the lacking OC.
there is nothing wrong with this. Also, the pokemon board has two tans.
I don't give a fuck what is chosen but If you have to cop out and choose two tans because you can't decide that's really lame.
You can have sidekicks remember, but just pick 1 ONE thing to be the tan.
There is no reason for this board to have two.
/vp/ has "are you a boy or a girl?"
/y/ has two because lesbians
That's it! You have no reason except
>i'm too lazy and just want to compromise because I'm weak
That's no a reason that's an excuse.
Just pick 1 and the whatever the loses admit defeat gracefully and hope for sidekick status
>and hope for sidekick status
Then two works.
Because the OC makers can pick who can take center stage in each creation.
You dont NEED both in every artwork.
make both acceptable and let the drawfags sort out who gets center stage
I like the idea of /his/ having two tans which one is male and one is female, not because equality, but because to show that History is not about who is having reason, but more about cooperation and comprehension of the past or some shits like that.