Were the African colonies even profitable? I mean, christ, I'd imagine working with coked-up warlords has got to turn up a measure more in cash and capital than you could have under a colonial government. Great for private business, probably not as great for everyone else.
Because eventually everyone gets guns and then numbers kill you or you end up being brutal paranoid cunts like the Israelis Look at South Africa - the amount of gun crime is massive as the whites built up massive arsenals in case So you get trigger happy civvies walking around with rifles and often using them on each other cf Israel settlers shooting each other
>>12816 >The indian subcontinent ended up better post colonization than it was prior. Sure, but they also took their own independence in their own hand, and thanks to Ghandi it was done about as amicably as possible.
Its different from leaving behind propped up friendly puppets.
>>12920 not really. Gandhi had much more impact on the lower castes of society being quickly integrated into society as a whole, rather than independence. Also >partition of India >amicable it was a botch operation. the bongs couldn't be arsed to go and see where the border would be divided and just drew lines on a map. it resulted in>>12926
>>12299 It's a very complicated question, and I wish I knew more. As far as I can tell it has to do with the following... 1. In colonized regions, local institutions were destroyed and new ones were created or still in the process of creation at the end of colonialism. At the time of the end of colonialism, India had been ruled by colonialist powers for ~100 years, but most of Africa for only ~50 years. In that time India's institutions and trade networks had been built up, while those of Africa had only been destroyed and were still in the process of being rebuilt, which is why India isn't a war torn shit-hole, only a shithole.
2. Africa and the Middle East were split into nations arbitrarily. People who before had considered themselves part of a tribe were now members of the British or French or whatever Empire, then suddenly they were Nigerians or Syrians or whatever. It would be as weird as if the US suddenly split up according to county, and you were expected to be loyal to Sandoval County. And say you were suddenly the President of Sandoval county. If your loyalties were all to your tribe, then why would you care about the state of your nation? This is why African presidents usually treat and have treated their countries like piggy banks. If you were suddenly the president of Narumbibria, and you grew up as an uneducated starving kid, why not live like an emperor?
3. Macroeconomics (I guess). I don't understand economics, but apparently the price of raw goods, which is what African economies were build on (by colonialist powers) tanked in like the 70's, I don't know why. So before the 70's life in Africa wasn't that bad, about as shitty as life in India. All their economies tanked though, and their institutions were too shitty to do anything about it, and their leaders were too greedy and uncaring to do anything either, and it's pretty much all been shit since then.
>>14497 Regarding #3, the economy and infrastructure of almost the entire continent was based around extracting raw goods and shipping it to various colonial masters. This does not make for a strong base to build a developed nation.
1. All proper infrastructure for a nation was destroyed when those nations were conquered. The system that replaced it was more based on resource extraction than good governance. Even more importantly, very few of the locals were integrated into even this basic system, so when the Europeans mostly left even this broke down. There were barely universities to train professionals like doctors. 2. Borders were drawn arbitrarily grouping together people that didn't like each other. All of Africa was basically Iraq, except instead of Kurds, Sunni and Shia sometimes you would have 20 different tribes that hated each other. 3. Most of Africa was never highly developed. People whose lives were more 18th century found themselves dropped into the 21st century and nothing the colonialist did helped this transition.
>>15837 Yes, I read that in one country, I can't remember which or where I read it, it took less time to get from the capital to the coast than it did to get from the capital to any nearby city, because of the way the railway networks and roads were designed: for ease of extraction.
>>12299 Because the western powers drew lines on a map that had nothing to do with the people living there. This created ethnic frictions within nations that were subverted by the colonial powers during their rule. West powers left because the resources they went there for were no longer desired for a number of reasons. The resulting power vacuum saw the dominant ethnic group assume power and years of suppressed frictions often resulted in fighting or genocides. Africa, the Baltic, and the Middle East all have examples where as Western or Eastern power structures are removed, atrocities and war occur. The irony is strong arm leaders like Hussien are actually the most positive solution to rule a nation where artificial nations have been created. As soon as this rule is removed, and an attempt at democracy is implemented, all hell breaks loose.
Excluding the fact that niggas gonna nig, you have to consider that we showed up, gave these guys machine guns when their cultures had not even considered the ideas of morality beyond survival and tribal religion, and then felt so guilty that we just left. We never should have decolonized. Ideally, we would be ending official colonialism today. If we kept the places we could have built schools, infrastructure, taught democracy, secular ideas, and instilled proper morality and cultural norms like we where supposed to. We could have kept a lot of armed bases to make sure things transitioned smoothly, and ideally nations would be smaller. Things could have been great. What exactly went wrong and 'made' us leave is a totally different can o' worms, but this is what could have gone right.
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