In this thread we try to find our way past historical revision and get an idea of what really happened. History is offensive, it is not kind, your feelings will be hurt, but it is important we see things for how they really happened and not for how we want them to have happened!
Lincoln got shot because he was a tyrant who shat on the constitution. He wasn't shot because people were mad they couldn't keep slaves. Just as Stalin is remembered in Russia as one of Russia's greatest leaders, despite being a raging murderous psycopath who killed tons of his own people, Lincoln is remembered in America in the same way.
the united states, the leading nation of the free world, absolutely exterminated an entire population and its culture, stamped out all traces of it, and left its remnants to rot on miserable poverty ridden reservations
If your feelings are hurt when you read history, then something is seriously fucking wrong with you, you shouldn't be allowed near books, they have too many pointy edges, you could hurt yourself.
The holocaust was lie and Hitler was actually a good guy. History demonizes the fuck out of the Nazis. If they hadn't invaded Poland everything would be alright today. Fuck winston churchill he was a fat lazy bum responsible for the market garden disaster. Communism failed miserable and the socialists/marxists are the cancer of today who think they can justify being lazy and stealing from people because they are poor.
The natives were conquered. We didn't just move in, we had wars for the land. The United States didn't do anything different than any other country.
The Arabs, China, and most of Europe did the same at some point. I don't know why people focus so much on the u.s.?
It would be hypocrisy if the current generation were in any way responsible for what occurred more than a century ago.
And if you are claiming that they are, then white guilt is involved beyond the shadow of a doubt.
>It would be hypocrisy if the current generation were in any way responsible for what occurred more than a century ago.
true, but keep in mind that we have the same government that we did back then. for a country like germany it's different, because its current government has no ties whatsoever to the nazis in terms of continuity. furthermore, the fact that we still have "reservations" for certain types of people shows that we're not past this.
>implying revisionism isn't the path to truth
The narrative accepted right after something happens will be tainted by the bias of people directly affected by it and they haven't had as much time to gather and consider facts.
>Robespierre was a hero who wanted to end unjustified violence but still drive the revolution to it's ultimate goal
More like, the natives were all killing each other as it was (the racist Noble Savage myth is total bullshit, the Native Americans were all super warlike tribes, and some of the most badass that there ever were). Whites were just one more group who joined the fray, but we wound up winning.
But yeah, our bad. Sorry we invaded your land and built schools, roads, hospitals and universities.
>the fact that we still have "reservations" for certain types of people shows that we're not past this.
Native americans are automatically granted US citizenship.
If they stay on reservations, it's of their own choosing.
If anything the US gives the native americans special privileges.
And no it's not different from a country like germany. What's past is past. You can't blame the son for sins of the father.
>The Arabs, China, and most of Europe did the same at some point. I don't know why people focus so much on the u.s.?
There's not a significant population of social justice warriors or political correctness in the Middle East or China, and the ones in Europe would rather point fingers at the US than themselves.
>If anything the US gives the native americans special privileges.
Yeah, THIS. The native american reservations are treated as their own sovereign nations. In Arizona, I know natives who grow weed on the reservation because there's no laws against it. Sure, FEDERAL laws are against it, and it IS federal land, but their reservations are treated as sovereign states.
The initial shock to the markets in 1929 was temporary and was already coming to and end by halfway through Hoover's term. The Smoot-Hawley tariff was passed in 1930 because he felt like everyone was saying he "wasn't doing enough to address the crisis"
The tariff was the biggest contributor to the great depression lasting as long as it did, and Roosevelt's programs only exacerbated the problem.
>You can't blame the son for sins of the father.
There's still people talking about reparations for Apartheid, Jewish Holocaust, Tuskegee Experiments, Armenian Genocide, and other events that weren't really all that recent.