>>17812 Other then JFK and Lincoln (who is not that great) i'll go with Washington because even though he wasn't the man for the job i know he really tried hard. Because he knew what America could be if he didn't cede to a politician.
Yeah, I know, 'gunboat imperialism' and everything, but he was pretty based aside from that.
>Seasoned police chief, rancher, politician, and veteran >Didn't take shit from anyone >Read a book everyday >Great negotiator >Battled trusts and won >Pushed for industry reform and made it happen >Opened national parks >Protected unclaimed wilderness >Had the Panama canal built >Sick stache
I guess it could also be that all of the gilded age presidents before him were so underwhelming that he looks like Jesus in comparison.
>Davis >Anywhere near competent If Davis was qualified to be a world leader than the Confederacy wouldn't have failed. Also: >Bulk of America's best military personnel were based in the South >CSA still ate shit and lost in spite of that massive upper hand they had
>>18357 >Disregard founders idea of 2 terms >Ally with Soviets who go on to be America's greatest enemy for the next 50 years >Follow Hitler's concentration camp idea (It would have been much worse for the Japanese if we actually were fighting a war on American soil)
>>18390 got us through the depression, created the framework for the modern welfare state which, while having problems, has had an undeniably positive impact on a lot of people. also got us through world war ii, cobbled together a political coalition that dominated american politics until the 1990s. cool guy (with undeniable flaws). though he was better than fucking kennedy
>>18512 It's really hard to say with FDR. Would we have been better off without his progressive policies? Did they have any beneficial effect during the depression? Would WW2 have gone the same way without him? Again, hard to say.
But I'm honestly glad that he didn't get *everything* he wanted. We like him for the bits that got vindicated by history, but to be honest he was a progressive loon that would make bernie fucking sanders proud.
In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.
Among these are:
The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation; The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation; The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living; The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad; The right of every family to a decent home; The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health; The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment; The right to a good education.
So yeah, he basically wanted to give everyone free healthcare, jobs for everyone no matter what, a command economy, free housing, etc.
>>18512 >got us through the depression He made it last about 14 years, that's not supposed to be the ideal solution, he also got lucky with a war in Europe >created the framework for a welfare state That's not a good thing, people should not be dependent on government, look at the unemployment rate/crime rate of blacks pre 1940 and then today >got us through WWII Mainly because of the Soviets, seriously if you can't win a war on 2 fronts you're pretty much useless, the U.S. also had some great generals which did most of the work >political coalition that dominated politics Why is this good
>>18719 >people should not be dependent on government The ideal use of a welfare state would be to lift the able-bodied out of shitty situations to then become productive members of society. An investment (generally with pretty good returns), not a handout.
No serious advocate for the welfare state wants people who can work to be dependent on government forever.
there is a significant amount of truth in Kennedy's statement during the '62 Nobel prize dinner:
"I want to tell you how welcome you are to the White House. I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered together at the White House, with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone"
>>19788 >>19872 >small group of crazy asses means the entire nation is in ruins
i actually am voting for Hillary, thank you very much. idgaf what those xenophobes say. they're just as ignorant as you and don't know jack shit other than what some faux news sites report on the internet
>ctrl+f Harry S Truman >0 of 0 I saged this thread because you don't respect the greatest president of the 20th century. I didn't sage it because you are dumb sons of bitches -- although you ARE. But that's not against the rules for faggots. If it were, half to three quarters of you would be banned.
The Federal Reserve does not write regulations for banks to follow. That power belongs to the FDIC and similar institutions created by the federal government and states. The Federal Reserve is not in charge of printing money. The Treasury Department is the agency that prints money.
>>20190 How is creating a single-payer health care system, increasing investment in public transportation, and creating millions of public housing units going to speed it up? Studies within the U.S. already show that the better quality of life a poor person gets (read:blacks) the less likely they are to have children, especially if we provide free contraceptives and abortions to black woman. We just need to expand the e-verify system and enforce the laws better and build le wall and the flow of shitskins will die down pushing back the date of the brown takeover of America.
>>20005 See, Trump has the right idea when it comes to border control, which is to make Mexico build the wall, rendering US bureaucracy impotent in throwing up roadblocks to halt it's construction and laying the future blame of any wall related atrocities on Mexico.
>>20359 kek Catholics are the biggest leftists in the world. I think more people in the U.S. at this point are pro-abortion rather than not. Now is the time to act and get those black babies off our streets :^)))
>>18512 >created the framework for the modern welfare state which, while having problems, has had an undeniably positive impact on a lot of people We spend 1.25 TRILLION dollars on social security every year. Fuck boomers, let them die off already they are the #1 reason why the US is a fucking mess.
>>20215 You're being purposefully deceitful. The treasury prints money, sure, but the fed is the one who tells them how much to print and deal with who it is lent to. Saying the treasury is in charge of money is like saying the sweat shop is in charge of nike shoes.
>>20030 >There's literally nothing wrong with any of that
Depends on how you go about achieving it, senpai; pretty much every government that says it's for the common man has said they wanted more-or-less those same things and many of them have ended up being utter garbage fires.
The Fed does not tell them how much to print. They have the ability to release more money into the market through the purchase of securities. Any FDIC insured bank can take a loan from the Federal Reserve. They do not refuse banks a loan. The Federal Reserve only has the power the to purchase the bonds they feel is necessary to support monetary circulation in the economy.
>>21568 >correct choice That's oversimplifying the situation a little bit anon. Petain's government went through several different cycles from 1940-'44 over their ideas about the Germans, and the degree to which Vichy should collaborate changed over time. A lot of Vichy's time and energy wasn't spent in collaborating with the Germans, even though Vichy did try and give the Germans more than the Germans had asked for in the Armistice agreement.
Vichy was really the big last gasp by previously marginalized parts of French society at trying to 'correct' the mistakes of the Republic. Although I do like the poster you're replying to on his comment about collaborators, since the original plan for Operation Torch was going to involve Admiral Darlan. Who was one of the bigger pro-German collaborators in the Vichy government.
>>20129 But it clearly didn't stop their political careers the way it would today.
I don't think people genuinely mean every single man, woman and child was racist up until the last couple of generations. What they're saying is racism was socially acceptable in a way it just isn't today.
>>21568 I'm not even getting into the question of the ethics, or complexities that French people on the ground had to face.
Roosevelt wasn't in that position. He had an easy choice that every one of his contemporaries could see: If you are committed to the policy of defeating Hitler, is De Gualle or Petain more helpful towards that goal?
As late as 1944, when the Vichy government fled to Germany, Roosevelt wanted to try wooing them.
>>21763 >But it clearly didn't stop their political careers the way it would today. OK, but imagine if, in 60 or a hundred years you had people saying. "Sure, the U.S. Army tortured people. But it was different then. Everybody thought torture was a good thing back then." >I don't think people genuinely mean every single man, woman and child was racist up until the last couple of generations. They would like to obfuscate as far in that direction as much as possible.
>What they're saying is racism was socially acceptable in a way it just isn't today. Which underlines the point. Even in a society we consider very different and strange in it's ambivalence and tolerance of racism, Roosevelt stood out at the time as being really, really racist. He was not a product of his times, because even the times said "Wow, that guy is pretty racist."
top fucking kek. 80% of them are from other places throughout asia and north africa, using the "syria crisis" as an excuse for free shit
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>they support an end to the war yeah right. Bernie voted to stay in the ME and Hillary is the biggest warhawk we've had since andrew jackson. And let's just ignore obama's anti-war stance. A lot of good that has done for syria, no?
>>22435 Indeed they don't. Sweden's rape and murder rates have skyrocketed, and the only reason why a scientific publication denoting the correlation hasn't been published yet is because such a thing has been made illegal by the government.
>>18477 >Was widely credited with saving capitalism when we could have instead fallen into actual socialism/communism had things not improved. It was a real danger and he kept America off the ledge. Doesn't get enough credit from the right for the good he did for them.
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