>>26379 >further Luo Guanzhong. Also the Chinese Emperor's job (and most monarchs really) is done by the Prime Minister...which Cao Cao was.
Rarely in history do we get the visionary from-the-front rulers in history. In China's case these were usually the founding Emperors + at least one Golden boy in the dynasty.
Meanwhile we're not even SURE where Liu Bei came from. Just that he was "minor nobility." And his pals is a Butcher and an Fugitive and their early efforts resembled a Youxia swashbuckler/mercenary group meaning they were one of those hired muscle He Jin collected during the suppression of the Yellow Turbans.
>Wei: Literally a Han government under Cao Cao. Rebuilt the government following from its collapse under Dong Zhuo, brought unity back to half the realm. Lost legitimacy upon Cao Pi's ascension to the throne, however there was precedent for a dynasty unable to sustain itself abdicating.
>Shu: Liu Bei was by most definitions an opportunist. Disagreeing with the governing of the Han under Cao Cao's premiership, Liu Bei decided to join an anti-Cao coalition. Had no legitimacy until the abdication of Xian, after which Liu Bei had a vague claim to the Han throne.
>Wu: Rebels. Swore fealty to the Han when convenient, both opposing and siding with Cao-Han when convenient. Sun-Wu had no claim to the Han dynasty but also lacked the military might to enforce their own rule. Sun Quan was an incredibly capable ruler and brought prosperity to his realm, though he lacked the means to reach any end game goal.
I mean the history is filled with obvious bullshit like ALL CRIME STOPS a week after Liu Bei becomes governor, but sometimes it's hard to separate the actual man from the impossible superhero he's made out to be.
>>26677 >further Luo Guanzhong. You know there is more scholarship around the three kingdoms than Guanzhong fiction and it's overwhelmingly agreed that Cao had effectively usurped control of the dynasty. I am pro-Wei and even I agree with that. Cao was a reformer who went against tradition and established Han powers, which is why people like Liu Bei popped up crying about muh tradition and lineage.
Where is the appreciation for DEVELOPMENT you Northern dicksucks? Dong Wu turned the south of China from a barely-held-together collection of colonies and rivers into a powerful central state brimming with talent and potential, stopped only due a lack of manpower and Liu Bei being a butthurt thief.
Actually descendants of Sun Tzu himself. They're responsible for giving southern China an identity. What's not to love?
>>29734 Luo wrote it to please his Ming masters. Liu Bei who had a dubious connection with Han royalty (there is a belief in China that people who share surnames are in some way related) ended up being the ultimate symbol for Confucian values.
By portraying Liu Bei, a Han scion as a loyal servant of the tottering Han, he also made him into a symbol of Ming authority. Be loyal to the Imperial clan no matter what. Which is why Quan is portrayed as a backstabber and Cao Cao as a ruthless opportunist, and Liu Bei as the perfect gentleman.
The royal relative is the best suited but is undone by temporary lapses in judgement.
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