>Tesla was offered the task of completely redesigning the Edison Company's direct current generators. In 1885, he said that he could redesign Edison's inefficient motor and generators, making an improvement in both service and economy. According to Tesla, Edison remarked, "There's fifty thousand dollars in it for you—if you can do it." This has been noted as an odd statement from an Edison whose company was stingy with pay and who did not have that sort of cash on hand. After months of work, Tesla fulfilled the task and inquired about payment. Edison, saying that he was only joking, replied, "Tesla, you don't understand our American humor." Instead, Edison offered a US$10 a week raise over Tesla's US$18 per week salary; Tesla refused the offer and immediately resigned. >people praise this faggot
He was more of an engineer. You might as well compare a painter and a sculpter.
No, Edison didn't invent a lot (or even most) of the things he's credited for, but he DID make them better, cheaper, and more reliable. I don't know where this circle jerk for Tesla came from. Aside from AC current, Tesla just invented gizmos and had interesting theories. Marconi and Bell invented things way more relevant today than the autistic, celibate, neurotic Tesla ever did.
>>31870 Edison Invented the Apple's business model. Big speaker, skilled businessman, a complete dick with science or tech. Steve Jobs didn't invent shit. Even Zuckerberg knew how to code some php and fiddle with mysql for his university.
>>31908 Oh it's also not right to attribute Tesla a lot of inventions, he just put in application things from Marconi, Maxwell, and the fathers of electricity and electronics. As an electronician I guarantee you you cannot put a big antenna and give free power like that, it's bullshit.
>>32000 >Aside from AC current, Tesla just invented gizmos and had interesting theories >has more than 342 patents assigned to his name,would've been more if his intellectual property wasn't assigned to others with more suitable names
Colonial education at it's finest.You didn't just abuse his intellect,you're also giving yourself the right to ridicule him after his death.
> he just put in application things from Marconi, Maxwell, and the fathers of electricity and electronics
You mean he overcame the simplicity of his predecessors and actually did something for the fields of electricity and electronics?
> based on actual world-changing inventions And yet for some reason,Tesla tends to overshadow them with his"pitiful and unimportant inventions
Just stop using his inventions,i'm sure you'll do well without them.
>>32160 Watt is the only man that should be listed with regards to the Steam Engine. Every model before the Watt Steam Engine was an expensive, inefficient novelty. It was Watt's engine that initiated the industrial revolution.
>>38198 Watt didn't invent the steam engine, he invented the separate condenser. This was a significant improvement, but I'd say the most significant invention was still, you know, the actual steam engine.
I think the main thing it shows is that while there are lots of great engineers and scientists the idea that there really are inventors that genuinely magic great products out of nowhere rather than slightly improve on something and make it financially viable or simply get there first ahead of competitors as mankind's technology improves is laughable.
You only need to look at the arguments over who invented the car, or the TV, or the lightbulb or the telephone to see this.
That's not to downplay any of the brilliant work any of these people have done, I'm just saying literally everyone is standing on the shoulders of giants.
>>38437 But it was Watt's Steam Engine that bestowed macro-historic importance on the Steam Engine. Its like saying the man that invented the scooter has more right to the legacy of the bicycle than the inventor of the bicycle itself.
>>40764 Tesla was a clown who stole ideas from other people and then accused them of stealing from him. AC induction motors are a good example of that because the inventor Galileo Ferraris made a public demonstration of it in 1885, and people working for Westinghouse(Tesla's company) witnessed and reported it in the same year, Tesla would apply for a patent 2 years later and later claim priority on court based on the argument the "he dreamed of it" before Ferraris.
William Stanley, one of America's earliest AC pioneers: "I myself have seen the original motors, models, and drawings made by Ferraris in 1885, have personally talked with the men who saw these models in operation and heard Ferraris explain them at that date." - from a letter to the Electrical Review on March 16, 1903 [Electrical Review, Volume 42. 1903. Pg. 415] http://edisontechcenter.org/GalileoFerraris.html
"Few people at the time considered the profound social and ecological changes that the revolution heralded among peasant farmers. The long-term cost of depending on Borlaug's new varieties, said eminent critics such as ecologist Vandana Shiva in India, was reduced soil fertility, reduced genetic diversity, soil erosion and increased vulnerability to pests.
Not only did Borlaug's 'high-yielding' seeds demand expensive fertilisers, they also needed more water. Both were in short supply, and the revolution in plant breeding was said to have led to rural impoverishment, increased debt, social inequality and the displacement of vast numbers of peasant farmers," he wrote.
The political journalist Alexander Cockburn was even less complimentary: "Aside from Kissinger, probably the biggest killer of all to have got the peace prize was Norman Borlaug, whose 'green revolution' wheat strains led to the death of peasants by the million."
The Haber process, also called the Haber–Bosch process, is an artificial nitrogen fixation process and is the main industrial procedure for the production of ammonia today. It is named after its inventors, the German chemists Fritz Haber and Carl Bosch, who developed it in the first half of the twentieth century.
When it was first invented, the Haber process needed to compete against another industrial processes, the Cyanamide process. However, the Cyanamide process consumed large amounts of electrical power and was more labor-intensive than the Haber process.:137–143
The Haber process now produces 450 million tonnes (440,000,000 long tons; 500,000,000 short tons) of nitrogen fertilizer per year, mostly in the form of anhydrous ammonia, ammonium nitrate, and urea. 3–5% of the world's natural gas production is consumed in the Haber process (~1–2% of the world's annual energy supply). In combination with pesticides, these fertilizers have quadrupled the productivity of agricultural land:
With average crop yields remaining at the 1900 level the crop harvest in the year 2000 would have required nearly four times more land and the cultivated area would have claimed nearly half of all ice-free continents, rather than under 15% of the total land area that is required today.
Due to its dramatic impact on the human ability to grow food, the Haber process served as the "detonator of the population explosion", enabling the global population to increase from 1.6 billion in 1900 to today's 7 billion. Nearly 80% of the nitrogen found in human tissues originated from the Haber-Bosch process. Since nitrogen use efficiency is typically less than 50%, our heavy use of industrial nitrogen fixation is severely disruptive to our biological habitat.
>>32160 >gutenberg the chinese had invented it earlier, it just didnt work well with their 2,000 symbols >Pascal His calculator was hard to buildband way too expensive. Nobody used it. >Papin His steam engine was dogshit, Watt made it decent but no Watt is a fraud because he was just a businessman. >Cugnot Again it was utter shit. That guy who stood on a drone to make a 30 second hoverboard flight, will we be celebrating him over the guy in the future who eventually makes the true antigravity back to the future version? >Montgolfier When we say aircraft we mean heavier than air >Faraday He did experiments he never made anythingnpractical and reliable
Yes all thes people were amasing thinkers but they dontndeserve more credit than people like Edison and Jobs who made already existing but crappy things practical and useful. as i mentioned with the hoverboard guy its funny because today when people make first steps its always derided as useless and stupid when the guys who make it practicalbin the futurebget attacked for stealing the idea that the public trashed anyway.
>>35522 I love how he's an unofficial saint of Mormonism but they need to upgrade their shit and make him an official saint, their St. Michael or St. George. Did you know a duel is legally binding in Utah if both actors use a 1911?
Edward Jenner-(Vaccination - Smallpox) Lives Saved: 530,000,000
Linn Enslow & Abel Wolman-(Chlorination of Water) Lives Saved: 177,000,000
Linn Enslow, a chemist, met fellow scientist Able Wolman while studying at Johns Hopkins. Together, while working at the Maryland Department of Public Health, they devised a method of standardizing the use of chlorine to purify water. Though chlorination was already in use on a limited basis, it was Wolman's process that allowed purifying water through chlorination to become widespread
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