>>32091 It's a case of Theseus' ship. The Seljuks came to Anatolia and the Anatolians became culturally Turkic, thus creating the Turkish ethnicity which isn't Turkic genetically... Similar thing happened with Bulgaria.
The most glorious part of the Seltjuk establishment was giving rise to Saladin the (Kurdish) Ayyubid. He basically took over from the Seltjuks, after proving himself time and time again as a pragmatist, military genius, governing talent, a man of virtue.
>>32314 funnily enough, he was ethnically Kurdish, but he probably never identified with Kurdish culture, or spoke a word of Kurdish language. He spoke Arabic, but he probably didn't consider himself an Arab either, or he just didn't care about what race he was
Also a lot of people think Saladdin just made an army and fought off the Crusaders, but he actually did a lot of things before he got to that point, the most notable one being destroying the Fatimid caliphate, whose people (along with Seljuks) were responsible for harassing Christian pilgrims, that led to anti-Islamic sentiments that inspired the Crusades It wasn't until he had control of both sides of Palestine (Syria and Egypt), that he actually made an attempt against the Crusader kingdoms. The interesting part is, this is what ISIS is claiming to do. They say they want to eventually fight Israel, but they cannot until the countries that are supporting it, or preventing them from fighting Israel, are removed and they surround all sides of Israel
>>32314 Selahaddin was a vassal of Zengid Turks, I wouldnt say he took over from Seljuks.
By the way, I would have doubts about Selahaddin being a man of virtue. In Kitab'ül Etibar, ibn Munkız (a man who lived in the same time as Selahaddin and served him infact) tells about him in one part, it might interest you.
>>32505 While it's correct that he didn't care what ethnicity he was, because basically no one did in those empires. He took a lot of Kurdish forces with himself to Egypt, Levant etc. His dynasty also became 'arabised' to the end of the ayyubid rule. But Saladin himself spoke Kurdish, Arabic and probably Turkish. And the way he organised his governing and military is known for taking Caucasians, Kurds and Turks and giving them powerful positions.
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