Thread for creating /his/-chan to represent the board to all of 4chan.
Ignore all shitposts and feel free to contribute.
Can't we just steal a SMT design and call it done?
well, what a coincidence, we happen to have a time traveling ghost on hand!
what would you like to discuss?
I just spent 4 hours doing this in paint. Rate the product /his/.
she says there is a lot of tension, largely due to portions of the population becoming modernized and others not. apparently there were a lot of bandits around that time and japan was progressively becoming less and less safe, especially when they made it illegal to carry swords. many displaced people who had spent their lives learning swordplay and suddenly finding themselves without purpose in the new society.
>Can't she be the old man's daimon?
No, it sounds kind of dumb. I prefer the ghost as the imagination of the annoying companion of the old man.
>Ah! I just noticed we moved here during Halloween.
>Weren't we talking about the siege of Baghdad?
>That means I HAVE to be a ghost!
>Because ghosts are COOL and they're like, very historical.
And then she started using long shirts and drawing herself as a ghost and keep being annoying in general.
well, she says that school was available and mandatory for everyone rather than just the higher classes, the meiji era was all about breaking down the older class system and instituting class freedom, people were now free to change their classes as they saw fit. women we given most of the same rights as men however they stayed in their traditional female roles. however they were able to work and go to school etc just like any man.
I don't see the sense in 'officially' forcing one or the other, when that's impossible. Artists who prefer one or the other or both will draw them separately or together anyway, or even generate subjects on their own, and that's for the best.
An elderly man stands stands out from the other board's avatars, and I expect that it will more accurately represent the board -- but I think the ghost is also a cute idea that ought not go to waste.
This >>32354 post has it right, in any case.
Honestly, Heinrich would be one hell of a good option, since he exists in a wide variety of costumes, and people really don't produce enough content with him.
How does /his/-tan feel about femininity, gender identity and role in Japan?
Japanese men of the time were often said to be able to emulate women better than women themselves, and the roles women had in society were often confusing when compared to European society of the time.
she says that she doesn't know about such things, because the only thing that interests her is the slow march of time and that she had a hard time noticing a difference in the way people felt.
I really don't like how people are trying to determine a /his/-tan right as the board forms
Don't get me wrong I love these things it's just there is no community formed yet, and the majority of people right now on this board are here to see the new babby board and won't be here in a month
You can't rush these things, let it organically form
The oldguy looks boring to me though, just a generic oldman. The ghost doesn't have to be a loli, and it could be anything from history. History is so much more than just some old greek historians.
Is it actually possible to be an outside observer to history? Does observing, recording, and becoming informed about history not alter your behavior in a way that will inevitably, even if only slightly, change the course of human society?
yes, it's exactly what we need
no other board-tan is of considerable age or bearded, so it's distinct among board-tans, but the old philosopher with robe and beard is an iconic image of history.
I didn't think this warranted it's own thread so I have a quick request. I'm currently writing an essay that i've been looking at for too long.
Can anybody help me improve this sentence:
>Even though the vast range of political ideologies cannot be accounted for entirely through the aforementioned model of analysis, their content of can be commonly be understood through their key functions.
I don't know that it's what we 'need', but it is distinct and more historical than a ghost. He could be cool in his own right.
The ghost is more fun, however.
Even though the vast range of political ideologies cannot entirely be accounted for by use of the aforementioned model of analysis, their content can be commonly understood through their key functions.
People have different opinions. Just chill and let it develop.
Should it be about fun? The first thing you think of might be old man, but overall I feel like the ghost will be the best to work with.
>Maybe you don't understand, but the entire point of a board-tan is for it to be cute, hence the -tan suffix. So, not an old man.
except 80% of board tans don't do that
4chan's tans are ironic mascots meant to be used on parodies, not your fucking barbie dolls.
Cramming too much in that one sentence. Where is the emphasis?
>Even though the vast range of political ideologies cannot be accounted for entirely through the aforementioned model of analysis,
They can't be accounted because...
> their content of can be commonly be understood through their key functions.
Political ideologies are too vast and wide ranging to be entirely accounted for...
I had a mini nightmare of the Classics, reinterprteted by the Japanese. A 14 year old Socrates chan. The Agora as a stage for girl bands. Pic vaguely related. It's a Japanese version of Noah from a video game.
Cute anime lolis is kind of the point of a moe anthropomorphization. Board "mascots" aren't really mascots in the traditional sense. They are referred to often as "board-tans", as in /a/-tan or /d/-tan, and they are meant to evoke a specific style of anthropomorphized object, idea, etc. as pioneered by Japanese netizens.
That being said, 4chan board-tans often go outside the standard set by what they are based on, and I do think an old dude might work. Or perhaps something like, say, a 20-something guy who has grown a beard and bleached it white in an attempt to look like an old man.
Or, maybe we should wait until we've settled into an actual coherent consistent community to make something meant to represent what this board is all about. Or even just wait until drawfags from other boards do it for us. I don't know if /his/ has the sense of self-deprecating humor and overall self-awareness to create a mostly-accurate, humorous representation of itself. Most board-tans were not created by a consensus of the community there, they were created by crossboarding and outside observer drawfags from various boards.
>except 80% of board tans don't do that
Really? There's /pol/ and /v/ but those are both cancerous places we shouldn't try to emulate, plust they're not really -tans in the first place and aren't referred to as such since they aren't cute.
As far as I know there aren't any other non-cute board-tans.
/tg/ is one of the better boards and their tan is hardly moe. He's a scrawny geek, because he represents the fucking traditional games board not the kiddyfiddling weeaboo board.
Ignoring Vivian, who should rightly be fucking ignored, this is /v/'s mascot.
So we've gone from the argument "most boards have a loli moe mascot so we should too." to "most boards don't have a loli moe mascot so we should have one because we're not most boards."
Go fuck yourself.
HERE WE GO WAS INSPIRED BY SMT DEMONS.
>3 eyes, lets it emote while also keeping a mystique (not to mention Thoth, God of Knowledge is described as being "3 times great, as great.)
>An hourglass figure because history repeats itself (moebius strip).
>Book of life and death, another callout to Thoth.
>A suit and tie because history is too great for the nitty gritty details.
>A watch to ascertain what time period it could be.
>Wide hips [spoiler]because i like them[/spoiler] because I dunno helen of Troy reference.
If /jp/ is anybody's kid, it's /a/'s.
As for Vivian, shit, that reminds me, I was going to draw a comic a while back but I never got around to it, about Vivian being dropped off at /v/'s house and being a problem child. Inviting in Twitter-tan and Reddit-tan and making a mess of the place, etc., culminating in Vivian finding the cancer crown from the old /v/-rage comics and transforming into a horrendous beast after putting it on.
>As for Vivian, shit, that reminds me, I was going to draw a comic a while back but I never got around to it, about Vivian being dropped off at /v/'s house and being a problem child. Inviting in Twitter-tan and Reddit-tan and making a mess of the place, etc., culminating in Vivian finding the cancer crown from the old /v/-rage comics and transforming into a horrendous beast after putting it on
That sounds bretty gud, at least the part with Vivian inviting over Twitter and Reddit; you should work on that,
I really like all the works with Vivian where /v/ is some kind of deadbeat father who constantly reminds Vivian that she was a mistake.
The whole movement was kinda stupid, but Vivian is a great -tan like character.
Come on, guys.
We figured it out before the first thread was even halfway over.
The old philosopher made out of marble is the board-tan. The loli was just shitposting, but I'm not saying it can't be a board mascot as well.
Everything past this is just overthinking it.
What the hell are you guys doing? I come back and I see this. We already had the design and everything. Everything came to be naturally, and without shitposting.This is what happens when you don't link the old threads. there was no shitposting, just creativeness. We were swapping ideas like mad men, you slould've seen it. It was wonderful. But now everything has been sick and twisted. It's no longer fun, anymore. You should be ashamed of yourselves, all of you.
btw, bearded loli is retarded.
Come on man, quit being a pussybaby. People aren't going to agree with you, and you are acting like it's the end of the world, and creativeness. More people having jumped on board with different ideas. I think I understand how you feel, but whining about it isn't going to get anywhere. Do you want to create a chatroom? I think that would help the exchange of ideas. tinychat 3qrbgm if anyone wants to join.
>wanting the board-tan to be something you find attractive rather than a representation of what this place should actually be: learned old men with questionable hygiene ranting and raving about the days of old
It just doesn't make sense to have a loli. The only boards that have a tan like that are the ones that discuss that lolishit or the ones that blabber like actual children.
I'd be totally fine with the new designs if the threads weren't will with anger and shitposting.
That's what really get's my goat. We're just going in circles at this point, it's pointless. We already had more realized characters, just the stubbornness of a few screwed that over.
I just want the board-tan to be a trve Roman rather than a Greek.
Also I don't want a loli-tan but a cute mascot that can wear any historical outfit kind of works desu senpai.
>Some who ascribe to him a specific domain call him the god of "elusive sea change", which suggests the constantly changing nature of the sea or the liquid quality of water in general. He can foretell the future, but, in a mytheme familiar to several cultures, will change his shape to avoid having to; he will answer only to someone who is capable of capturing him. From this feature of Proteus comes the adjective protean, with the general meaning of "versatile", "mutable", "capable of assuming many forms". "Protean" has positive connotations of flexibility, versatility and adaptability.
Bonus points for "Mytheme"
That's how it works man, people get angry. Like many others have been saying, just stay in the threads and chill out, and then the anger will pass and the trolls will leave in a week. What is happening now is exactly what happened on /aco/, and it all worked out there.
No one wants to go to the winter ball with an old woman.
content is what does it.
You can argue all day long about whether something 'should' go one way or the other, but what the drawfags end up creating is what gets passed around and generally accepted.
Suffice to say, if you think your design should be "it," and if there are people that agree with you, draw something. Make something dumb or some attempt at a joke.
If you don't make content than your idea is just a sketch someone made. If you don't have sharable images than however many people are behind it people will be using something else next week.
I'm fucking terrible at art but I'll probably continue making dumb shit like this because this is the design I liked the best and I don't want it to be forgotten.
As long as we allow here to have feet and legs at times, I'm all for this.
vivian is neo/v/ tan.
I like Vivan, but Goobergate ruined her.
Maybe this would be a good temp while everything gets hashed out?
our biggest obstacle in this decision is that history is interesting BECAUSE it's such a diverse, broad subject, so a single tan, even a shape-shifting one fails because it's still a single persona.
you know what i think? /his/ should be an entire council of characters. We should wait, wait until mini-communities form around specific topics like Romanboos such as yours truly, then they can create their own personifications.
>senate of board-tans
Eh, maybe if it was a board full of generals, but we should want a single tan that'll represent /his/ somehow. A cute ghost-tan has honestly been the best suggestion so far for that, but I can see why people dislike the idea.
The old man and loli duo was decided previously.
who the heck suddenly turned him into a ghost.
History isn't dead.
That was my point.
Also, I don't mind a pairing of a cute tan that dresses up historically and a historical figure, but the statue-like Greek figures don't seem very good. He should still be obviously drawn and 'invented' rather than just an attempt at copying art of ancient Greeks. I'm not saying he should be cute or attractive or anything, but just looks nice to associate with.
Times have changed, opinions have shifted, here comes
PICK YOUR POISONS 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO
But all of the other board-tans are either original or based on things that are deliberately drawn to look appealing and in a nice art style - and they all work well.
The figures drawn so far for old Greek historians haven't, they look like copied statues.
No there isn't, you retard. These threads have been a clusterfuck of people voting for things that they fancy since the Winter Ball. Whatever "system" there is to this is entirely based off of the board's preference.
Also I'm by no means shitting on the idea of having a personification of history as an ancient Greek figure or anything like that, the content is fine.
I just think it should be stylised better, because it doesn't look good imo compared to most other board-tans.
Can't help it when seeing fine booty
If we're still bumping this one, we're still good.
Wait until this thread is on page 8 before making a new one.
Alright so you want a mascot for /his/ -- well first thing about a good mascot is it has to be simple, cute, and humorous.
You see what we need is a Forest Gump type of His-Chan. Someone who is oblivious to the great things happening in history. That's what'll make it funny and endearing. So I propose something that'll have been around for a long, long time...
Dodo-Chan. He's a Dodo who, for some reason, can't die. Because he's millions of years old he's evolved into a slightly more humanoid form, think Howard the Duck.
Fuck it that might work .Someone have a go drawing it please.
>it's a board tan not a chan
Why don't we just use Bill and Ted?
Or The Doctor?
Or the one true ruler Alexander the 3rd of Macedon?
Why do weeaboos always want to push their shitty chinese cartoons everywhere? Literally as bad as bronies
heres my fucking oc you cunts. austin the autist. now lets just sttle that mine best represents the board as an entirety and we'll be on our way.