ITT you post the first mildly interesting historical fact that comes to mind
After Emperor Xerxes's first attempt to bridge the Hellespont ended in failure when a storm fucked up his piece of shit pontoon bridge, Xerxes ordered the waters of the Hellespont whipped. 300 times iirc
Before battle of Vienna in 1683 Grand Vezir Kara Mustafa sent a bushel of poppies to Jan III Sobieski (ruler of Commonwealth of Poland-Lithuania) with a message that "our army is like these grains - it's impossible to count our soldiers".
King John III resent him basket with grains of pepper along with message "our army is like these grains - it can be counted, but it's hard to crush it".
>the father of lies
Zack Snyder is more of a historian m8
Kant is responsible for the theory that stars and planets are formed from the gradual collapse and rotation of gaseous nebula (and in part Swedenborg)
Hannon (Annon) was a sailor from Carthage. We made it to the West Africa and brought some unknown to Carthagians animals. He was able to tame them, which was the reason he was killed shortly after returning to the homeland. Carthagians believed that anyone who can make animals obey his orders is dangerous.
Pic related, it's the map presenting possible route of Hannon.
Thomas Jefferson and John Adams died on the same day, July 4th, 1826, exactly 50 years after the signing of the Declaration of Independence, Adams last words were
"Thomas Jefferson still survives."
But Jefferson had died three hours earlier.
these stylish guys fought with the sharpest weapons in history
I accidentally spouted in another thread, but when Peter the Great of Russia's favorite court midgit died, he had several midgits of the realm carry the tiny casket amidst a gigantic funeral progression. I want to say thousands of St. Petersburg citizens had to show up for this event.
Peter also gave Frederick William I a bunch of exceptionally tall soldiers in trade for an amber cabinet.
Being dying of kidney disease at Whitehall Palace, the same place where his father was executed, Charles II of England's last known words were "Be well to Portsmouth, and let not poor Nelly starve", Nelly being his mistress.
Equally famous last words came from Union General John Sedgwick during the American Civil War. Unaware of dramatic increase in accuracy provided by the improved rifling technologies used by both armies, he berated his men for ducking, famously declaring "Why are you dodging? They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
Unfortunately Sedwick was not an elephant and was shot in the head soon after.
>Gebhard Leberecht von Blücher, Fürst von Wahlstatt (German pronunciation: [ˈɡɛphaɐ̯t ˈleːbəʁɛçt fɔn ˈblʏçɐ]; (16 December 1742 – 12 September 1819), Graf (count), later elevated to Fürst (prince) von Wahlstatt, was a Prussian Generalfeldmarschall (field marshal) who most notably led his army against Napoleon I at the Battle of the Nations at Leipzig in 1813 and the Battle of Waterloo in 1815, in alliance with the Duke of Wellington.
Nigger went crazy and though to be pregnant with an elephant.
Dunno man, I can add also horses and caws and every animal that can be tamed. They killed him, because lions were binded to his chariot. Conclusion? Having control over animals is generally okay, but lex specialis to is controlling lions, which is seen as "dangerous".
Several of Shakespeare's stories are plagiarized form older works. For example. Hamlet was a barbarized version of Saxo Grammaticus "Deeds of the Danes" modified to be more angsty for his target audience. Othello was almost entirely copied from Un Capitano Moro, and Romeo and Juliet was a rewrite of The Tragical History of Romeus and Juliet.
>Peter the Great
I remember reading up on him after my last Russia playthrough in Europa Universalis 4. Here is something mildy interesting:
He commissioned a summer garden in his new capital St. Petersburg and filled it with statues and various other artworks of mostly western origin. Said statues were moved over the centuries for various reasons up until the point where no one knew how exactly they were alligned, originally. Only a few deacades ago the original arrangement was achieved after studying historical and compositional reports of the time.
I don't know if this counts, but anyway, it always made me laugh.
> William George Crush, general passenger agent of the Missouri-Kansas-Texas Railroad (popularly known as the Katy), conceived the idea to demonstrate a train wreck as a spectacle. No admission was charged
>Unexpectedly, the impact caused both engine boilers to explode, resulting in several fatalities and numerous injuries among the spectators.
>Unexpectedly, the impact caused both engine boilers to explode.
for the last time, its
for the gods sake man get your priorities in order
The Germans shipped Lenin back to Russia by train during WWI. This helped catalyze the Russian Revolution and took Russia out of the war, which allowed the Germans to put more effort into the Western front. Unfortunately for them, it was too late to win them the war.
Did he ever pretend he was the T-1000? I know that is what I would be tempted to do at all times around a lake of mercury.
Fun Fact: Indians in the amazon uses the heads of army ants for sutures
If you have frequented Byzantine threads on various boards before, you might know this one already.
Emperor Justinian of the Eastern Roman Empire send out his generals to reclaim the Western provinces that had previously fallen to barbarians. One general, Bellisarius, was supposed to reconquer Italy from the south. He did that and even captured the Ostrogoth king in Ravenna. The Goths were so impressed that they even offered him the title of the Western Roman Emperor before that. He actually accepted, the madman, but only as a trick to gain local support and even reach Ravenna. Nevertheless, conflicting reports had reached Justinian and made him recall Bellisarius back to Constantinople, which he did. He even brought the Goth king and some war loot.
In case I got something wrong, here you can read about it:
Ned Kelly, as an Australian criminal, donned a makeshift suit of armour and shot out with the police. Was eventually hung until dead. Official Beard Representative of Australia.
Except that really is out of character; if you look at it objectively instead of reading propaganda written by someone who hated the Persians and wanted to demonize them; you'll find Xerxes and the Persians as a whole weren't so barbaric. It's a real shame that people in the West nowadays are so ignorant towards towards other cultures. I think the Persians get the worst of it.
>not realizing that there is more than one type of literature
I forgive you for being retarded.
It was true and Herodotus wrote about it to play up the majesty of the king.
You do realize that a man is measured by his enemies, if you demonize the persians then they fail to be worthy opposition.
First off use your brain
second off quite being a retard that hates the west
Even nature will bow to the King.
Doesn't that carry a far greater grandeur characteristic of Herodotus and the Greeks than
Persia bad, they dumb too.
Fucking retards ruining /his/ with their opinions.
>a wave of molasses rushed through the streets at an estimated 35 mph (56 km/h), killing 21 and injuring 150.
>for decades afterward residents claimed that on hot summer days the area still smelled of molasses
Before WWII, pink was considered a manly colour associated with blood and masculinity, while blue was considered a feminine colour. Clothing for toddlers was either unisex or followed these conventions, the opposite of today.
Brian "The Big Guy" Boru refused to personally fight in the Battle of Clontarf, not because he was in his late 70s, but because he refused to bear arms on Good Friday
On 26 September 1983,Stanislav Petrov, a lieutenant colonel in theSoviet Air Defense Forces, detected 5 ICBMs coming from the US to the Soviet Union. He suspected it was a computer malfunction and dismissed it as a false alarm. Had he notified his superiors, the Soviet Union's strategy was an immediate nuclear counter-attackthat would have initiated nuclear war. Petrov was later praised for his correct actions.
A big part of why Agincourt was a British victory was that when the armies closed for battle, the archers who ran out of ammo started running off to the sides and gangshanking the men-at-arms who they could separate from the mass. The men-at-arms were all mostly nobility, and had it in their head that proper glory in war was to be had fighting/dying against your own class, so these peasant archers (who were usually criminals or conscripts or just generally troglodytes) running up and stabbing knights 5-to-1 was a really low class way to go. This, combined with the cramped quarters of the main fight, led to panic on the part of the French army.
Irish general Michael Collins was 6'0" tall and built like a brick shithouse, earning him the nickname "The Big Fella", and making his friends the world's first Baneposters
>Later in the war, American pilots began reporting an American warship operating far within enemy waters. The ship had a Japanese trunked funnel but the lines of her four-piper hull were unmistakable. After almost a year under water, Stewart had been raised by the Japanese in February 1943 and commissioned into the Imperial Japanese Navy on 20 September 1943 as Patrol Boat No. 102.
>In an emotional ceremony on 29 October 1945, the ship was recommissioned in the United States Navy at Kure.
Until the late 19th century, boys as old as 8 would exclusively wear gowns or dresses. A boy receiving his first pair of pants was called breeching and was an important rite of passage for all boys in the western world.
The 17th-century French cleric and memoiristFrançois-Timoléon de Choisyis supposed to have been dressed in girl's clothes until he was eighteen.
Augustus was so well liked by the common people of Rome that when it was time to elect the two annual Consuls for the next year Augustus had the most votes even though he didn't run for the office. This happened for several years and Augustus would usually have to go to Rome to choose the second Consul that would've been him had he ran for the office.
>On a dare from a contemporary, Ben Franklin once slapped George Washington on the back and said something along the lines of "How's it hangin'!?"
Washington gave him such shit eye that Franklin said he would never take that kind of dare on again.
>Frenchmen wear dresses until 18
I thought we were talking about history?
The Aztecs had a fun trading card game based on feathers and taking prisoners.
Capturing people alive granted different feathers depending on the tribe said prisoners were from, and you could only get a limited amount of feathers from one clan.
Taking 100 prisoners from a weak clan doesn't cut it, you have to move on to rarer prisoners to get the good feathers
>On a dare from a contemporary (possibly Ben Franjlin, who was a well known joker), Gouverneur Morris once slapped George Washington on the back at a dinner and said something along the lines of "How's it hangin'!?"
Washington gave him such shit eye that Morris said he would not do something like that again for a thousand dinners.
>Frenchmen wear dresses until 18
I thought we were talking about history?
The Civil War was the war with the most American death, but nearly 2/3 of those deaths were the result of disease or improper medical care of wounded soldiers.
During the Civil War soldiers were given morphine to treat their wounds, but in many cases the morphine would run out before all the soldiers were treated so they would suffer in agony. One attending doctor decided to treat wounded soldiers with a simple saline solution that contained no painkillers and miraculously the soldiers treated with the saline solution reported lower levels of pain and suffering. This is the first well known case of a widely used placebo being used to treat patients.
Kyoto was originally one of the targets to be nuked in WWII but the Secretary of War was a huge weeb and convinced Truman to take it off the list because of its cultural importance as the historical capital of Japan
Port Royal, Jamaica was the most prosperous of all the settlements in the Americas before an earthquake in 1692 severly crippled it (with the aftermath of looting/pillaging and panicked fleeing being worse than the actual quake.)
>The Civil War was the war with the most American death, but nearly 2/3 of those deaths were the result of disease or improper medical care of wounded soldiers.
That happened in most war at that time. Many of the deaths in the Paraguayan War(1864-1870) were caused by cholera
What about Peter the Great's Negro, Abram Gannibal, who was bought from the Ottomans as a slave and originated in Central Africa, near modern day Cameroon (he was probably Fulani or Hausa). He was freed and eventually became a nobleman, military engineer and general. Gannibal became a prominent member of Petere's daughter Elizabeth of Russia's court, rose to the rank of major-general, and became superintendent of Reval (now Tallinn, Estonia), a position he held from 1742 to 1752. He also married a Greek woman.
Alexander Pushkin was his descendent.
Leibniz read everything, spoke every language. When he heard about Spinoza writing the Ethics, he showed up at his front door and baited him into showing the manuscript, then promptly took a quantity of notes. When he left Spinoza's house, he went straight running to the church to denounce him.
Some Nuragic bronze statuettes represent sub saharian animals like antilopes and chimps
Isaac Newton died a virgin in his sister's basement.
>Even if you discover a new type of math and explain a great mystery of the physical world, you will always be a NEET
>Kyoto was seen as an ideal target by the military because it had not been bombed at all, so many of the industries were relocated and some major factories were there
Sounds perfectly reasonable. It's not like they were terror bombing it for its cultural icon status.
I don't think any informed person would try to say it was an unreasonable target, but just imagine what would have been lost had it been destroyed, and the future implications. Japan took to US rule incredibly well after the war, and as a result they became one of the strongest nations in the world. Post-war Japan's military is it's best kept secret from retards. Would any of this have happened if America destroyed Kyoto and they resented us for it?
Most of this is hindsight, of course. What I'm really trying to say is that bombing Kyoto is a fun "what if" scenario.
During the Gallic Wars, there was an incident where Roman soldiers given explicit orders to raid an enemy supply wagon and NOT besiege a settlement decided to go balls out and immediately besiege a nearby settlement. The Gaul women started throwing pots, furniture, even children at the Romans to get them to fuck off. The commotion alerted Vercingetorix and his warband, who promptly secured the supply wagon the Romans were supposed to burn and then immediately turned to rout the Romans at the gates. 20-some centurions or something ended up making a last stand so that the rest of the Roman soldiers to run back to Caesar's camp.
Prestor John was a mythical Christian king thought by the europeans to rule over the far east until the 17th century, originally India, then Ethiopia. The tales about him are very interesting, much like king Solomon or something. When Europeans did find the ethiopian christians, they were appalled that they werent catholic.
> The most notable use of a sealed train was the return of Vladimir Lenin to Russia from exile in Switzerland in 1917, but the practice was used a number of times throughout the 20th century to allow the migration or transport of controversial individuals or peoples.
>Recognising that these dissidents could cause problems for their Russian enemies, the German government agreed to permit 32 Russian citizens to travel in a train carriage through their territory, among them Lenin and his wife. The group traveled by train from Zurich to Sassnitz, proceeding by ferry to Trelleborg, Sweden, and from there to Helsinki, Finland, before taking the final train to Petrograd.
The reason they sealed the train was that he could not rile up the masses at the stations he stopped at.
I mean, you gotta give it to him - he had TWO TRAINS LITERALLY COLLIDE. Just for the sake of spectacle. For the splosions. And to top it off it was free for the public. How cool is that???
>Crush was immediately fired from the Katy railroad. In light of a lack of negative publicity, however, he was rehired the next day.
Jesus christ this was a good read.
This was a defining feature of their entire culture. They enslaved entire tribes just so they could keep up with the thousands of yearly sacrifices in Tenochtitlan.
When the Soviet Pe-8 heavy bomber had its baptism of fire on the 10th of August in 1941, due to a navigational error and the ACh-30 engines being plagued by mechanical failures, one of these behemoths had to land on a field long before their home airport.
Fortunately, a local collective farm had a diesel storage - the same fuel the Pe-8's engine used. However, the only method of getting the precious liquid to the aircraft was a modest bucket, thus refueling almost took two days.
Nevertheless, when it was finally done, the Pe-8 took off and made it back to the base. The regiment already had written the aircraft off, and when the lost son returned a big party with lots of vodka was had that night.
During the Union's siege of Petersburg in the American Civil War, Union troops managed to literally blow a massive hole in the Confederate defenses after packing a mine running under their trenches full of gunpowder and detonating it. They still managed to lose the battle, however, because confusion in the Union ranks caused the troops to fail to press the assault immediately and, infamously, charge directly into the bottom of the crater instead of around it.
The siege of Petersburg wound up lasting another eight months.
>taking Apocalypto for gospel
Jan Zizka (pic related) pioneered the concept of armored fighting vehicles with his wagon forts, successfully defeating two Catholic crusades of mercenaries with essentially farm implements and primitive guns. He was never defeated in battle and when he finally died legend has it his last wish was for his skin to be made into drums so he could continue leading his armies beyond the grave.
The name "Brit" referring to an inhabitant of Britain is derived from the Roman "Britanni", which in turn is a Romanisation of the Greek "Pretanike", which in turn is the Greek form of what the inhabitants supposedly called themselves: "Pretani". This Greek form comes to us from a man named Pythias of Massilia who visited GB and spoke to the locals. However, celtic languages can be broadly classified into the "P" and the "Q" families. Pythias must have only spoken to P Celts; had he spoken to Q Celts, they would have described themselves as "Qureteni" or perhaps "Qurtani". This in turn might have been turned into a Greek form "Kruthenike" (or something like it), which in turn would have become Roman "Cruteni".
Thus we would have called it the Cruttish Isles, the Cruttish language, Great Cruthain etc
>The Isles: A History by Davies, Norman (2008)
Do you have difficulty with reading comprehension, anon said they BOTH did it. The Maya never came close to the industrial scale sacrifice of the Aztecs and had different practices and beliefs.
He said the Mayans practice sacrifice but only though blood letting.
>During the Postclassic period (c. 900-1524) the most common form of human sacrifice was heart extraction, influenced by the method used by the Aztecs in the Valley of Mexico
the earliest battle in recorded history for which details of tactics and formations was in 1274 BC
this was also assumed to be the largest chariot battle ever with over 6000 chariots
the battle of kadesh between the hittite empire and the egyptian empire
When Gráinne Ní Mháille (Grace O'Malley in English) conducted her meeting with Elizabeth I of England, the two women had to speak to each other in Latin, as Gráinne spoke no English and Elizabeth spoke no Irish
Funny thing: Joan d'Arc hated the guts of Zizka and company. She goes as far as comparing the hussites with muslims.
No, I didn't say that. I literally said >>45141 though with a more relaxed and maybe less clear tone than this anon who explained it to you.
>"The Big Guy"
Romulus Augustulus' dethronement was not the total end of Roman government within the former Western Roman Empire. A couple provinces maintained Roman rule for some years after the advent of Odoacer.
Notably, northern France was ruled by Aegidius and then Syagrius, two Romans who insisted they were just governors of a province and ruled from what's now the city of Soissons. They managed to govern northern France for another ten years after the fall of the Western Roman Empire, and then the Franks came along, beat up Soissons and took it over.
And then, of course, a century later the Eastern Roman Empire under Justinian managed to retake most of the Mediterranean and restore Roman rule to points as far away as southern Spain, but that's more an expansion of ERE rule rather than a direct continuation of WRE governance after the fall of the WRE itself.
Also Romulus Augustus wasn't the rightful emperor of the West, but a half-germanic usurper. The rightful one was Julius Nepos, who ruled in Dalmacia as the rightful (though not factual) emperor of the west until 480, when he was assasinated and his land invaded by Odoacer.
How many Christians must die until you support lion control?
>Also Romulus Augustus wasn't the rightful emperor of the West, but a half-germanic usurper.
Eh, "rightful" is a nebulous thing when it comes to the Romans, since they never really established a firm law of succession for the emperors. There were some traditions which were fairly persistent, like the Senate doing that really long hailing thing they did (chanting slogans several times over, praising the emperor, etc.), which carried on even into the reigns of the Ostrogothic kings, but the only vaguely reliable rule regarding what made a guy the legitimate ruler was whoever manage to beat up everyone else.
Adolf Hitler loved Disney's Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
He was also a NEET from age 16 until his early 20's.
>Lived with his sick mother after dropping out of high school, bumming money off of her to go to operas.
>Moves to Vienna with another young man who was his roommate, still on mom's money. She dies, then he bums off his roomy, who was now his friend.
>Considered himself too good to get a job. Spent free time doing art, traveling the city and going to the opera.
>Got screaming-angry if anyone criticized his art or his lifestyle.
>Spent some time in a poor house after going homeless, where he learned antisemitism.
Really interesting internet article. Forgot which one it was, though.
In the 1400s the Ottoman empire began introducing massive siege cannons to their armies, and they were useful in battles like the fall of Constantinople in 1453.
As time passed, a set of these huge-ass guns were left gathering dust at a fort in the Dardanelles.
They sat there for over 300 years.
Then, in 1806, a british Naval fleet showed up to try and force the Turks to bend to their will. The fort defenders, spotting the British fleet coming into range, looked at the ancient cannons and thought "why not?" and stuffed them full of schrapnel.
The guns still worked, and managed to kill a few sailors. Good engineering on the part of the Ottoman Empire.
Related to Hitler, from "The Young Hitler I Knew"
The French army at Agincourt had longbow archers in it.
The cannon predates plate armor
Quite a few world conquering armies rode ponies
Alexander the Great destroyed centuries worth of Persian records and culture because he and his men got really fucking drunk and had the greatest party in history (or rather, burned Persepolis to the fucking ground while hammered))
Thats a bit of an over simplification. It was the equivalent of remakes in today's society. Certain plays, te merchant of Venice or King Lear, and those you listed were stories that were frequently told and retold. So the whole appeal was that you were going to see Shakespeares Romeo and Juliet, or Shakespeares Jew of Malta. So on and so forth. His best plays were his histories anyways.
When he was wasted, Alexander also threw a javelin at Cleitus the Black, who saved the king's life at the battle at Granicus. Apparently Alexander claimed that he was better than his father, and Cleitus told him that he was nothing without his father's achievements. He also seemed disillusioned with Alexander's adoption of Persian customs.
Einstein frequently go to beach to chill with his bros on slippers
How the fuck does that even happen?
>Fairy Godmother: Now, little child, tell me your single greatest wish and I shall grant it!
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No one has actually opened the tomb yet. It's believed that if they open it the now gaseous mercury would explode out of the tomb and into the city it lies in killing thousands of people.
The phoenicians circumnavigated africa before founding carthage, becoming the first civilization to do so.
Legend has it that the founders of Rome, Romulus and Remus were descended from the Trojan hero Aeneas, who fled from Asia Minor following the conquest of Troy by the Mycenaean Greeks.
Though this is likely a case of grasping at mythical straws, there's speculation that early Rome's neighbors/overlords to northwest, the Etruscans, who did not speak an Indo-European language, may have been descended from ancient Aegean migrants to Italy.
Seems more likely to me, though, that the founders of that Etruria were settlers who arrived from around the north, given that there was apparently a large patch of alpine peoples who spoke a related language not to far away.
This thread makes me hopeful. I expect most of /his/ will match this quality before the year's end.
It is estimated that 20 000 people resided in the (now ruinous) city known as "Great Zimbabwe"
>Peter also gave Frederick William I a bunch of exceptionally tall soldiers in trade for an amber cabinet.
Frederick William I was obsessed with tall soldiers. He searched high and low all over Europe for freakishly tall men to fill his special grenadier regiment, the "Potsdam Giants." If they wouldn't go willingly they'd be threatened or kidnapped.
Frederick liked to have parties with his grenadiers and dance with them. (no homo)
>Brian "The Big Guy" Boru refused to personally fight in the Battle of Clontarf, not because he was in his late 70s, but because he refused to bear arms on Good Friday
According the legend, Brodar the Dane escaped from the Viking defeat at Clontarf and found Brian Boru praying in his tent. Broder killed Brian but was apprehended by the Gaelic warrior Wolf the Quarrelsome. Wolf killed Brodar by cutting out Brodar's intestine, tying it to a tree and forcing the man to walk around it, unwinding his guts, until he died.
>When Gráinne Ní Mháille (Grace O'Malley in English) conducted her meeting with Elizabeth I of England, the two women had to speak to each other in Latin, as Gráinne spoke no English and Elizabeth spoke no Irish
When the Duke of Wellington and Field Marshal Blucher met at an inn after defeating Napoleon at Waterloo, they spoke French to each other. Also, the inn was ironically named "La Belle Alliance."
>Funny thing: Joan d'Arc hated the guts of Zizka and company. She goes as far as comparing the hussites with muslims.
Sometimes I never make the connection that certain people lived in the same time.
There was a government-sponsored culling of emus in Australia in the 1930s, as they were destroying farmlands and such. The campaign was basically a failure and a bounty system was instated instead.
He (Sec. of War Stimson) also honeymooned in Kyoto. He was also solely responsible for its removal from the Interim Committee targeting list. Thus, it seems that a honeymoon saved the city.
He argued at the time that it needed to be saved since it was a religious center, akin to nuking Jerusalem.
In 1852, John Murray Spear tried to build a robot messiah he called the New Motive Power. He did this because he claimed to have talked to the ghosts of Ben Franklin, Ben Rush, John Quincy Adams, Thomas Jefferson and John Murray.
It has since been my life goal to tell people this story.
English is a Germanic language. This flies in the face of all of the other migration period peoples who were assimilated into the language family of the area that they conquered i.e. The Salian Franks' language eventually becomes French, the Lombards beget Italian and the Visigoths wind up speaking Spanish years down the road. All of these are Romantic languages even though they were conquered by (presumably) Germanic people's.
This is because the Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Frisians ethnically cleansed the Britons. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle makes mention of entire Welsh towns being put to the sword.
>A.D. 607. This year Ceolwulf fought with the South-Saxons. And Ethelfrith led his army to Chester; where he slew an innumerable host of the Welsh; and so was fulfilled the prophecy of Augustine, wherein he saith "If the Welsh will not have peace with us, they shall perish at the hands of the Saxons." There were also slain two hundred priests, (18) who came thither to pray for the army of the Welsh. Their leader was called Brocmail, who with some fifty men escaped thence.
>A.D. 614. This year Cynegils and Cwichelm fought at Bampton, and slew two thousand and forty-six of the Welsh.
The mongolian empire was not only the largest contiguous land empire in history, it was also the first nation in history to have a national postal service. It used horse riders and relay stations, and the pony express of 1800s America was based off of this system.
Also. Even though the mongols were the largest contiguous empire in history. The largest in terms of Sq kms controlled was the British empire. At the height of British colonialism they controlled approx. 1/3 the planet, with territories in all time zones. Thus spawning the phrase: the sun never sets on the British empire
Some historians think that Ivar the Boneless (son of Ragnar Lodbruk) was carried out in to battle on shields, because the fucker couldn't walk, either from brittle-bone disease or deformed legs.
The Roman Empire and Chinese Empire were vaguely aware of each other due to the Silk Road and repeatedly attempted to establish contact as early as 97 BCE. Allegedly, a (claimed) Roman emissary did make it to China in 166 CE but there's little evidence to suggest much came of it.
Also China related - The Taiping Uprising. The short of it is a guy called Hong Xiuquan shows up in the mid 1800s claiming to be the brother of Jesus Christ and attempts to establish a "Heavenly Kingdom". The following conflict lasted nearly 15 years with a death toll of at least 20 million.
China in the 19th and early 20th century was full JUST mode. The last empress was a junkie that died in a pool of her own piss and vomit.
I actually think they might have been better off if the Heavenly Kingdom won
into the trash your entire opinion goes.
Tell me, whats "common" about year 1 to 2015? Why was year 1, year 1 in "common era?
For being a history and humanities board, these issues need to be addressed.
Some Mayan warrior went into battle dressed up like a lobster
he probably gave 'em the clamps
of all the cultures in history India takes the cake in terms of sexual deviance.
He also stalked a girl, gave her an anonymouse letter even
When she found out about it many years after he died she said she didn't even notice him but that it explained where that weird letter came from.
The Anglo-Saxon chronicle is completely unreliable during that time period, since it was first recorded in the ninth century. Alfred the Great of Wessex is almost certainly the king who ordered it to be written. The entire section on the fifth century is basically an origin myth.
Bede's Ecclesiastical History is a better source for early Anglo-Saxon England, but it's biased as hell. You could also try Gildas, who was a Briton.
Bede's account seems to dove tail with this.
>ETHELFRID, KING OF THE NORTHUMBRIANS, HAVING VANQUISHED THE NATIONS OF THE SCOTS, EXPELS THEM FROM THE TERRITORIES OF THE ENGLlSH. [A.D. 603.]
AT this time, Ethelfrid, a most worthy king, and ambitious of glory, governed the kingdom of the Northumbrians, and ravaged the Britons more than all the great men of the English, insomuch that he might be compared to Saul, once king of the Israelites, excepting only this, that he was ignorant of the true religion. For he conquered more territories from the Britons, either making them tributary, or driving the inhabitants clean out, and planting English in their places, than any other king or tribune.
As an undergrad, I wrote about this topic for my seminar. As an aside, Bede didn't live during these events either.
The inhabitants of England are genetically most related to the other inhabitants of the Isles, with Germanic admixture from both the Danelaw and the Saxon migrations.
That doesn't really fit the ethnic cleansing narrative.
probably because it happened fourteen hundred years ago and stopped thirteen hundred years or so ago. Ethnic cleansing is a distinct practice from genocide because the goal of the killing is not to wipe out the original inhabitants but to convince them to get the fuck out of dodge. Additionally, you could become an angle or a saxon but until then, you were a second class citizen.
And again, there's the matter of the English Language not being assimilated into another language family.
Are you saying that the Saxons practiced widespread cleansing of the Britons across the entirety of the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms, or that they established Anglo-Saxon regions within mostly Celtic/Romano-British land?
Melons and mulberries were not first brought to western Europe by the Romans but by Nuragic Sardinians around 1300 bc:
Da: Diego Sabato , Alessia Masi , Caterina Pepe, Mariano Ucchesu, Leonor Peña-Chocarro, Alessandro Usai, Gianna Giachi, Chiara Capretti, Gianluigi Bacchetta, Archaeobotanical analysis of a Bronze Age well from Sardinia: A wealth of knowledge, Plant Biosystems, 2014, DOI:10.1080/11263504.2014.998313.
Abstract. In 2008, during a rescue excavation in the Sa Osa area, near the town of Cabras (Sardinia, Italy), a Nuragic settlement was discovered. The excavation revealed numerous pits, wells and structures dug by the local communities between the Early Copper Age and the Iron Age. These structures were interpreted as elements of a settlement mainly involved in primary production. The most remarkable structure is Well-N, radiocarbon and archaeologically dated to the Late Bronze Age (fig. 1), which has yielded large amounts of waterlogged plant remains, animal and fish bones and pottery. Despite the limited set of samples, the combination of macro-remain and pollen analyses in this unique context provides important information useful for exploring not only local subsistence systems but also human impact on the surrounding environment.
Grapes and figs are the most abundant remains together with other fruits and edible vascular plants. Remains of melon and mulberry were identified being the earliest remains of these two species for Western Europe. Their presence may confirm early trade between Nuragic people and the eastern Mediterranean and/or African coasts. Intentional selection of wood suggests practices associated to the collection of raw material for specific technological demands. The presence of intestinal parasites in the pollen record points to the possible use of the well as a cesspit, at least in its later use, and this is one of the earliest evidence of this type of structures in prehistoric contexts.
Treeing was a ritualistic execution of high ranking prisoner by making a small incision in the abdomen and removing a short length of intestine to nail to a tree. The prisoner was them forced with spear points to circle the tree so that his guts wrapped around it again and again, like a grisly maypole.
In a manner, Both. Evidence suggests that they kicked the Britons into the western Hinterlands. Not thoroughly but enough for Mercia, Wessex, Sussex etc to become majority Germanic. Thirteen hundred years of gene flow later, it's gotten shuffled back in because let's face it. We're all mongrels.
And what happens in day five when it floundered or is starving?
King John of England is said to have had a Frenchmen in his retinue known as Peter the Farter. Peter's claim to fame, indeed, his only apparent use in the King's court, was his ability to pass gas to the tune of hymns and Christmas carols.
The Japanese liked to take heads as proof of their kills, but during their invasions of Korea in 1590s they were not able to ship the heads back to Japan and instead sliced off noses. Today there are still shrines throughout Japan where these noses are enshrined.
Reminds me of a particular pot found in an archaeological dig in South America. The pot was the only one of it's kind in the grave site (I believe it was a grave) and has a sculptured face that looks so much like classic Roman art it's uncanny. Some people think the pot is proof of contact between the Roman empire and certain civilizations in Southern America.
one of the Prominent attendees of the Council of Nicea (famous for solidifying the first Biblical canon) was St. Nicholas himself. At the council St. Nicholas was said to get so heated in debate with the heretic Arius that he struck him right in the face.
This means that there's historical precedent for Santa clobbering that asswipe in "Miracle on 34th Street"
There was a Korean who served in the armies of Imperial Japan, the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany before being taken POW at Utah beach after the D-day landings. He's the only known person to have served in all three main theatres of the second world war.
The pyramid of Khufu was completed around 2570 BC. Cleopatra lived 69 BC - 30 BC. So it's about 2500 years from the pyramids to her, and about 2050 years from us to Cleopatra.
Some pyramids were built later than Khufu's - the last Egyptian ones were built around 1750 BC. There was also a pyramid-building movement in Nubia(the area south of Egypt) during the 25th dynasty around 700 BC, which ruled both Kush in Nubia and Egypt(and are incidentally the main cause of the WE WUZ KINGS meme)
Germany, as in the country called Germany, has only existed since 1871.
Germany has never won a war.
They haven't every 20 or so years they "find" troy which gets media attention, this gets them money, then 6 months later they find something that actually gives the place a label and they retract their statement but since that isn't as "cool"nobody reports the retraction
Herodotus was the first person that recorded history, so fuck off.
The problem with him is that he wrote down everything he heard from people. He did a lot of research but he didn't filter it, he just wrote down all the rumours he heard.
Thucydides was a better historian because he did some actual source checking, although in his quest to be completely objective he made some stuff up. It is known that most of the speeches in his work attributed to important characters of that time were products of thucydides's "imagination" (but they were still based on facts and common sense).
Winning the Franco Prussian war directly led to the unification of Germany (it didn't look like the picture anon posted).
It's sort of like arguing the War of Independence doesn't "count" as a victory for the United States
Ottoman Sultans had harems with the most beautiful women he could find. These harems need people to service women, wash them, carry their shit etc.
The work at the harem thus required men, but men surrounded by amazingly beautiful women usually want to fuck, especially when these men wash these women. Thus, the men who worked there were castrated.
But due to the shit medicine at the time, the sultans didn't trust that castration would work 100% of the time. There needed to be a way to discover if the eunuchs fucked the prized posessions of the sultan.
The solution: black eunuchs. If the eunuchs ever fucked women, there would be a certain way to know that by the color of the child's skin. With a turk/arab/white eunuch there would be no way of knowing if they fucked with the woman.
Thus, keking actually has some benefits, especially if you want to preserve your harem ;^)
Are you referring to troy viia?
because the only evidence they have of it being "troy" is that the civilization ended in bloodshed and is roughly during a time that Greece could have waged war on that region
By that account, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were wiped out by the Russians, because they experienced atomic bombs, and they ended roughly when the ussr acquired atomic bombs
Cut a man's balls off and he can still fuck, but there will be no baby and thus no way to know whether the guard fucked one of the women. Cut his dick and balls off, and he won't be able to fuck and get a baby.
That story is bullshit, just cut the entire manhood off and your harem guard is harmless.
Hanno and his sailing parade also discovered Gorillas, but Hanno though they were just very ugly, hairy people for a while
>In its inmost recess was an island similar to that formerly described, which contained in like manner a lake with another island, inhabited by a rude description of people. The females were much more numerous than the males, and had rough skins: our interpreters called them Gorillae. We pursued but could take none of the males; they all escaped to the top of precipices, which they mounted with ease, and threw down stones; we took three of the females, but they made such violent struggles, biting and tearing their captors, that we killed them, and stripped off the skins, which we carried to Carthage: being out of provisions we could go no further.
During the second world war the red army was receiving supplies from the Americans, but had yet to engage Germany and open up a second front on the West. This lead soldiers to start referring to the cans of rations they were receiving as 'second fronts', and would joke to eachother "would you please open up a second front?" at mealtime.
Source: Through the Maelstrom by Boris Gorbachevsky
The date reached for the Trojan War by later Greeks was 1185. Troy VII, associated with the Trojan War, was destroyed something like 1200-1190. The Hittites have records of at least one war fought between Greek allies, Greeks, and Hittites and Hittite allies, over the cite of Troy. The records also say that the Hittite-aligned ruler of Troy at the time was named Alaksandu.
Etruscan has been identified on the Aegean island of Lemnos, close to Thrace (on your map). Lemnos was also the home of Hephaestus in Greek myth. The Etruscans, who devoured all the Greek culture they could, were especially interested in Hephaestus.
I like to imagine that the Minoans, Pelasgians, and Etruscans were all from the same language family. The Etruscans were driven out after their allies at Troy were defeated, the Pelasgians were subdued and integrated into Mycenaean society a thousand years earlier and lost their language, and the Minoans retained their language because of their isolation and the continuity of trade and culture exchange between the newly risen Mycenaeans and the fading Minoans.
>he doesn't want obsidian flakes in his heart
srsly though was that a thing?
Athens was never mentioned in the Iliad as recited by Homer. There are only one or two lines about Athens in the entire 24 book epic, and they're in the book that lists all of the heroes and their origins.
This mention of Athens stands out immediately when you read it because it's the shortest mention in the book and it is structured very similar to one before it. It's believed that the Athenian tyrant Peisistratus had the 'canonized' Iliad written down in the 6th century BC and that he had those 2 sentences about Athens added because a city's identity as Greek relied on being mentioned in either the Iliad or the labours of Heracles, and Athens is omitted from both.
The names mentioned in association with Athens may also be mythological fabrications of Peisistratus' commission. Like all of the mythology pertaining to Athens.
Athens identified itself with the native 'Ionian' Greeks, who were themselves identified with Pelasgians. Athens and Athena are both attested in Linear B and under the Arcopolis there is a bronze age, possibly Mycenaean, fortress or temple.
The Pelasgians were said by Homer to be allies of the Trojans (although perhaps not ALL Pelasgians). Athens was perhaps the last Pelasgian city of any might in the bronze age, and it didn't make it into mythology because it was allied against the Greeks.
Athena is probably a hold over from Pelasgian religion, then.
So we are at the 24h mark on this thread and I think its gone pretty well so far.
Thanks to everyone for contributing and I hope you've all learned something.
I personally liked >>40966 about the American Civil war doctors using placebo to treat patients, but they were all pretty good.
I was just wondering if we should make this "quick facts" type thread a regular occurrence here on /his/?
IMO we could all afford to learn more from each other through these threads and maybe get a break from the whole Rhodesia/Rome official fanboii threads.
Let me know what you think
To elaborate on this, when Julius Caesar was a young man in the Roman army, he was captured by pirates. He was so charming that he befriended his kidnappers, only to renounce this friendship when he realized the pirates were going to ransom him for far less than Caesar believed he was worth.
Caesar convinced the pirates to raise their asking price dramatically, then vowed that he would crucify every last one of his kidnappers when they refused to listen to him.
The pirates didn't believe him until he came back with a massive armada, captured them, crucified them, and then personally slit the throats of every pirate he had captured.
Ain't no one tries to put Caesar on the clearance rack. Ain't no one.