At what point did the Islamic World begin to lag behind Europe? It seemed that for hundreds of years, the Islamic World was a serious rival to Europe.
I think the siege of Vienna in 1683 marked the final end of the Islamic world as a threat to Christian Europa
But the process had begun much earlier of course, perhaps in 1492 when the Reconquista ended/America was discovered
I don't think 1492 is accurate at all. Even if most of the Muslim states were weak at that point, there was still the Ottoman juggernaut who continually put pressure on Austria and Poland, and Ottoman decline didn't really start until the late 17th century, when they had a long string of shitty rulers, plus the Janissary revolts.
Because of it most definitely.
If we think of the things necessary for a golden age to occur, for great developments in technology, sciences, research, restructuring of social order etc. requires order, stability, prosperity, unity. All of these things were bought by the invading arab muslims and conquests under Islam.
One might say - yeah but a hypothetical 'other' monoentity might have flourished just as well but you would be forgetting that 'drive' or an impetus to innovate and advance needed to be there as well which again was something bought by early Islam and the nascent rise of Islam.
“The ink of the scholar is more sacred than the blood of the martyr”
The three major early modern Islamic empires (Ottoman, Safavid, Mughal) began to stagnate around the 17th century.
Too much centralization of power, too great of a reluctance to change and reform economically in an increasingly globalized economy, and too great of a lack of an impetus to invest in scientific innovation and discovery (unlike their Abbasid predecessors of the Islamic Golden Age).
>and too great of a lack of an impetus to invest in scientific innovation and discovery
What do you mean by this? The Safavids, Ottomans, and Mughals certainly had rivalries with each other, as well as various western powers (Russia and Austria for the Ottomans, Russia and Britain for Safavids, and Britain for the Mughals) and I can't think of a better impetus than that.
This meme still exists eh?
If the Islamic world was a serious threat to Europe they would've conquered Europe. God knows they tried.
Islamic Spain was shit
Most of the Caliphate was desert backwater full of illiterate peasant goat fuckers
Baghdad was the only real intellectual powerhouse in Islamic history and that's only because the Caliph ignored Islam
Shitty fatalistic theology makes for a shitty fatalistic civilization
Its not because you disagree with him, its because you imply the likes of Ibn al-Haytham, ibn Zakariyā Rāzī, and al-Khwārizmī just "ripped off" the Greeks and contributed nothing original to their fields
They used the Greeks as a baseline sure, but they expanded on that baseline stupidly far beyond what they they started with.
Besides if you are gonna call taking a previous civilization's work and building off it "ripping off" Then Renaissance Europe ripped off the Arabs, who ripped off the Greeks, who ripped off the Minoans and the Egyptians, all the way back to when the Sumarians, who probably ripped off hunter-gatherers somehow