>>57120 First crusade was a success - they captured the city and established the crusader states. You understimate how much logistics come into play in warfare and how disadvantaged the Europeans were.
>>57234 >those were very disloyal Even during the battle of Manzikert while the Varangian Guard mercenaries abandoned the battle against the invading Turkic hordes, the Turkic mercenaries stayed loyal to the Byzantines and continued to fight against their own brothers.
They had the advantages of both the calvary charge and the range caused by the arrow, unless you have guns, this is virtually impossible to defend against and will always caused heavy losses if you just attack.
>>57247 >>First crusade was a success - they captured the city and established the crusader states. But I'm talking about the crusades where the crusaders fought the Turks, the first one wasn't fought against the Turks however the others were and they all failed.
>>57351 >spoke different languages so communication was impossible for anyone but the multilingual bigshots, i.e lowly commanders and soldiers couldn't understand each other >lack of communication - their armies and fleets were scattered and they had to somehow coordinate an attack across the entire med when couriers took days if not weeks to deliver messages across europe >home field advantage for the turks, logistics is a nightmare
>>57351 3k heavy horse and 9k infantry/archers vs 10k horse - would have to be some incredibly bad-ass foot and bowmen to make that even - horses close distance and maneuver much faster, and many of the 10k horse had bows as well
At the onset of the war the Turks appeared to have several advantages on their side, among them the Russian Empire's lethargy. The Ottoman Empire had had the longest stretch of peace with Europe in its history (1747-1768). The Turkish Navy held dominance in the Black sea, giving it the advantages of having shorter supply lines. The Crimea gave the Turks military forces with which to fight the Russians. Russia had shown a complete lack of naval ability in the past so Ottomans would assume dominance on the Black Sea
>>57728 That's not a biomass tactic thing going on, the numbers of the ottomans were higher but not staggeringly higher but i gotta say this was a good tactic
>Ali ordered all of his forces down the hill to attack and defeat Skanderbeg's army. Skanderbeg expected such a maneuver and had prepared his own stratagem. Once the opposing forces were engaged and the necessary positioning was achieved, Skanderbeg ordered his forces hidden in the forests behind the Turkish army to strike their rear.
I would recommend reading some primary sources. Try to find a torrent or something of Emilie Amt, "The Crusades: A Reader" (It's $50 on Amazon, fuck that, but if you're a richfag: http://www.amazon.com/The-Crusades-Readings-Medieval-Civilizations/dp/1442606231)
This guy got a lot of it right. The Crusades were basically all torn apart by infighting, confusion, and random leaders fucking off halfway through the campaign to go home and secure their thrones (or because they were mad over some inconsequential shit)
You also have to consider that the crusading armies had to travel what was, at the time, a fucking long distance. They were often harassed on the way by various groups, including Christians in Hungary. This occurred because a crusader army going through your lands was basically like the current "migrant crisis" in Europe, except with swords. Even if you entered a friendly kingdom with no intent of ill-will, when your men run out of food they're going to start pillaging. Then you have to GTFO before the locals get an army together. So by the time you reach the destination, you're starving.
Then you have things like the Battle of Hattin, wherein the locals knew where the water was and destroyed all the wells while dragging out the chase until the crusading army was so thirsty they basically just gave up and died - and then Saladin attacked. And on top of this, there were other circumstances, like the 4th Crusade. The Venetians managed to divert it because the crusaders owed them a fuckton of money (like 100,000 dollars, which is probably equivalent to a few million today). Crusading is expensive, and if you don't know the place you're going you're very vulnerable to all sorts of resource depletion and misdirection.
The Mongols did a better job of long-distance conquest because of their culture where they were always mobile and it didn't matter where they were. (Plus one army, one language)
>>60259 You mean they fought against the islamic Ottoman empire and for a secular european-type government? Doesnt seem like a bad thing. Kemal himself hated pretty much everything that the Ottoman empire represented, much like the Russian empire and later the Soviets did.
>>60371 It was a gamble, of course. But it wasnt a throwaway thing. They saw an anti-islam rebel with influence in the strongest islamic state. They supported him to beat islam away from their borders, which would aid their (later failed and abandoned) attempts to make the USSR an atheist state. It was good to beat religion down in your neighborhood. They didnt get another communist state joining the federation, but I doubt that was ever more than a best case scenario dream for them.
>>60399 turks fucked over the soviets hard during ww2, they didnt gain a member but got the complete opposite, one who sucked western dick
so what lenin did was a big fail
>tfw stalin was the right choice
But what i am mainly saying is to relation to the comic, saying "french/brits" helped ottomans keep their empire, while the russians (soviets thus) also helped them alot during the war (and thus giving them alot of morale for fighting for constantinople etc etc)
>>62924 You said they never beat them, I refuted that and now you have moved the goal posts. More to the point the Turks are technically the main enemies as they ruled over the Levant and they win as much as they lose. First and third crusade trash them. Second and third don't do much. The rest of the crusades go for Egypt and N.Africa.
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