>>58264 no, declassified soviet documents have shown that his methods allowed them to easily place red herrings while the actual agents remained under the radar. The only major spy he was able to catch were the Rosenbergs and even then that was basically a fluke. Other than that the NKVD suffered no real setbacks from HUAC.
>>58308 Is there are any proof this guy was actually who he said he was? Like, did he actually provide any official Soviet documents supporting his claims or was it all just some bullshit he said in a John Birch Society-produced documentary once?
>>58264 With the information from project Venona declassified along with access to Soviet documents it seems so. There was definite justification for investigations, spies like Hiss, Chambers, and White prove that, but the seeming witch hunt method of HUAC is a bit harder to justify.
>>59411 June 29 1940 when the Smith Alien Registration Act was enacted.
>>59777 >but the seeming witch hunt method of HUAC is a bit harder to justify.
The HUAC will be the focal point of his legacy in the senate and why he won't be "vindicated". Even in this thread nobody is making the claim his accusations that there were soviet spies infiltrating the US domestically but his methods did overall more harm than good dealing with those threats.
>>58264 Not really in fact he wound up looking even worse given the actions of his assistant Khun who was a legitimately corrupt homosexual.
The Soviets were definitely going after the US however the list he boasted of never existed and at best he managed to ruin the careers of a few left wing actors and academics rather than uncover any spies within the government.
>>60411 >>59067 I don't think there's any evidence, but most of what he says isn't surprising in the slightest. Though nearly everyone misunderstands what he meant by "useful idiots" though. They seem to think he was just calling everyone vaguely left wing of atilla the hun an idiot.
>>60295 The thing about McCarthy and the HUAC though, is that he was not directly involved, McCarthy was on the senate's version (the PSI). HUAC was much bigger as far as I can tell, just the hollywood stuff alone was the size of PSI in total. But the high profile redscare cases were in HUAC
VENONA has vindicated his belief in Soviet infiltration
Whether his actions were acceptable is another question. The HUAC was quite brutal at times and hurt a lot of innocent people (plus it's unlikely the USSR would ever win or the US would ever be communist, anyway)
This is, of course, true. The closest modern analog (I'm about to break board rules but idgaf) would be the Patriot Act. If it turns out there are 4000 ISIS sleepers in the US then I guess Georgie Jr. actually had a point. But from the current perspective it seems like overkill to many contemporaries.
Now, in McCarthy's case it should have been clear that the US wouldn't go communist. Beating the USSR was obviously not assured, though, so the question of "was it justified" becomes more of "do ends justify means?"
I'm inclined to say that any action to prevent Stalinism is acceptable.
During McCarthyism, the communist party USA was quite real with ~100k members and suddenly dropping to <10k. There were real sympathies with communists because there were sympathies with labor in general. That motivated people to spy, they weren't necessarily supporting the USSR, but instead supporting what they saw was a labor movement or the common man in general. When the reality of Stalinism became apparent the party and movement was abandoned, leaving a few thousand Stalinists that McCarthyism was persecuting. Then the USSR itself starts to turn on Stalinism, evident by Kruschev's "secret speech" and the US communist party is now completely alienated from the USSR, and the visible failure of the USSR in Hungary's uprising. I don't think it is a coincidence that McCarthyism ends in 1956, the same time as those two major events and the practical death of CPUSA.
With the parallel in terms of the patriot act and terrorism, terrorist ideology would need to be attractive for the act to be necessary. In the USA it seems to be unnecessary (though this could be cart before the horse), while if you look at ISIS recruits from Britain maybe it is useful there. Not to derail with modern stuff, but does Britain have a similar law (civil contingencies act?).
>>58264 No, the fact that *some of the people he accused of being communists were in fact communists doesn't alter the fact that he really didn't give a shit who's life he ruined and was in it for himself not the security of the United States. He did permanently tarnished the image of those who genuinely opposed communism. He was no different from left-wingers who scream racist at every turn. *Important detail his supports leave out
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