>>62402 Your point doesn't stand because 1) this is literally the religion board and 2) at least half of /lit/ is Christian by now and most of us have come here to discuss the things we used to discuss, among which were Christianity and the religious in general. We're the people who are neither /pol/ nor Reddit.
Basically the early Lutherans(not sure about Luther himself) didn't know that much about the East but they sent letters to them about possible union, discussing their beliefs and so on. The first reply from the Orthodox was "lol no" the 2nd one was "lol srsly guys, no" and the 3rd was "pls stop writing us unless it's just as friends"
That's about all there is to say about it, it was clear the Lutherans weren't going to abandon their ideology for something foreign to them and the East never really budged for Rome itself, it sure wasn't going to compromise with the western schismatics.
>>65426 You mean like Eastern Bloc countries? Completely untrue, the establishment was atheist but society still had religious majority. Notice how when Hitler kicked the Soviets out of Ukraine the first thing the locals did was re-establish masses and other religious ceremonies. The same with all the other ex-communist countries going through a massive religious revival after 1989/1990.
tl;dr religion was only suppressed but never eradicated, most people were still religious
Most Russians were and are religious. Also USSR lagged 50 years behind the west in development, eventually disintegrated and the successor states are now a hotbed of prostitution, drug addiction and poverty. Hardly something worth bragging about.
>>65392 >who's God is true, then? well say that there is a God and he does have followers on Earth, then how would one manage figuring out which one is "correct?"
Lots of historians point to Judaism being most likely candidate for this since it is the first recorded monotheistic religion. Then from there you have the two major branching religions: Christianity and Islam. Islam is the religion of a conqueror and pedophile used to create political power among nomadic tribes.
To prove Christianity wrong you need to somehow come up with argument against Jesus fulfilling the messianic prophecies of the Old Testament. You also need to come to head with the fact that Christianity is the only religion in which it is not man working towards God, but God coming down for man. It's the most unique religion in human existence, is the continuation of God's first recorded interaction with mankind, and serves no worldly purpose in itself.
>>62988 It's impossible to discuss human history and civilization without discussing religion. Christianity is central to the West and caused massive intellectual movements that influenced history. Is this really such a hard thing to grasp?
>>65996 Well the officially "atheist" regimes of USSR, communist China, Cambodia, have some of the some of the highest kill counts of innocent civilians in human history despite existing for less than 100 years. If that's your idea of civilized, be my guest.
>>65724 Most Russians were and are not particualry religious. While about 75% of Russian population claim to be Orthodox Cristians, only claim 8% of them visit chucrch at least once a month, and 38% persent don't visit church at all.
In Russia religion has more to do with cultural identity than faith. The vast majority of Russians don't care whether a god exists or not.
The most important thing in Christianity is that we need to love and connect with God, and have a valid conception on Jesus and His teaching and live our lives accordingly
God is not exclusive to religion, all religions attempt to understand God, but religion is easily hijacked by men in ways we can't even imagine, but can because it is very evident that religion is a good thing that people can make bad, in a sense
>>65996 To maintain truly historical who should speak of other times as they were and how the people saw it. "Civilized" regarding past times should be defined based on the times they're set in. I mean, you could compare them with today but not define them based on our principles. That's just bringing unnecessary bias.
>>66606 No, Vatican ruined everything. In his early days, Luther criticized only Johannes Tetzel. He explicitly said that Holy Father would be enraged if he knew about this. Later he discovered that the Pope not only tolerates this faggotry, but outright endorses it. Luther tried to reform the Catholic churh and the Vatican's response was to excommunicate him and run a witch hunt. Can't really blame Luther for the Vatican royally dropping the ball on this.
That's because the Communists destroyed thousands of churches, hospitals, monasteries, seminaries, universities, executed thousands of clergymen, and forced their school teachers to be atheists. One only needs to watch Andrei Rublev or read The Brothers Karamozov to realize how Christian Russia was before then.
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