>>70679 I used to be worried about that, too. Especially since my state has stopped paying teachers for a while and my university isn't getting any revenue this year, student workers are being laid off in droves and financial aid is as taught as a cold war thriller.
Then I realized I've still got a lot going for me, so even if I have a shit job at the end of my school career, I'll be happy for the most part.
Maybe if you're worried about your future, you can take steps now to alleviate all that pressure you feel.
>>70743 Can always switch out that minor for something more interesting. I jumped off a Latin American Studies minor for a Geography one, which is something I'd much rather have for my non-essential classes.
>How do you feel about teaching? Or perhaps private tutoring? Nothing like trying to get brats to learn dates and events, m8.
>>70464 I don't think getting a degree in humanities is a wise idea (to me, at least). But I wish you luck. If I could find a well-paying job that involved me talking about history all day, then you bet your ass I'd be doing a degree in history.
[spoiler]I'm going to college to get a degree in IT. It's the only thing I think I can do at this point. I hope things turn out well for the both of us, anon.[/spoiler]
>>70805 Oh, I certainly do have interest in it, it's just that the English faculty at my Uni is rubbish. Plus, I need it for muh teaching qualifications. Here's a protip: if you're a male teacher and you be a lad with the boys and a leader to the girls, your students will like you. Besides, history in school isn't so much about learning dates, it's more about learning about specific events and societies.
those in STEM make more within 5 years of graduating, but the lifetime earnings of someone who holds a quality liberal arts degree are generally higher. Management positions require critical thinking skills, etc. that you acquire when you study history, philosophy, English.
I have a BSc in Computer Science but I minored in History. My upper division history classes were pretty lame, was so excited to take a course on WWII but the professor ended up focusing on the home front. I learned a lot of stuff, but come on. It's the biggest fucking war in history and focus on everything but the war itself? What the fuck is even the point?
>>71087 The most successful person I know in the liberal arts is a guy who majored in English. Went to Japan, taught school for one year, then got a job at a kindergarten (??? Don't know what that's about) and now does something or other. Don't know what he made at the kindergarten but it must have been more than the salary most people start with teaching English in Korea or Japan. Now he makes over 100k working for some business or other. He told me there are good opportunities for not just English majors, but general humanities and liberal arts majors overseas but it requires a basic language certificate for Japanese or Korean and at least a year of teaching. Apparently a lot of good jobs over there working for companies require you to live in the country and won't accept you like schools will for teaching right off the bat, but will accept you once you live there and have already worked a year somewhere else.
Of course, you have to be willing to pack up everything and move to a completely different country, and a lot of people aren't willing to do that. I meet a lot of people who seriously believe they will get a job in their own towns high school or college teaching. Maybe cross country if they're lucky after a good deal of searching, but still.
It's a 170-room property at a midrange brand. Not Hilton, but not Motel 6. Think something along the lines of Comfort Suites, Hampton, La Quinta, etc etc etc.
The Political Science degree was far more interesting than the History degree was. It was only an extra 3 classes to turn the PoliSci minor into a major, so I took summer classes, graduated in August instead of May, and went for it.
I just didn't want to go into bureaucracy, although I did join the National Guard after college. I've been mulling over the idea of maybe running for local office in a few years.
>>71008 I appreciate the nice response, dude. The board is getting shitposts up the ass which makes me sad, because I've been waiting years for this board to happen. I hope you get that house you want dude, you deserve it in my eyes. Good luck. You seem like a great dude.
>>71095 Not really, haha. I need 6 courses in English literature to be accepted into teaching college. It's not that the English curriculum is bad, it's just that the teaching staff are inept. But the history faculty - phenomenal stuff, absolutely brilliant.
That's weird, because when I was in high school, the teachers put a strong emphasis on historical societies and 'what life was like for them'. I remember when we were learning about the Vikings - we weren't taught anything about invasions (apart from the British) or trade routes, Christianisation, or anything - just how Viking society functioned and their religion.
Unless you get a master's, a history degree is the kind of degree you get to say "I come from a middle class background, I'm not stupid, gib job plz", and then you get hired to go into business. I've heard that HR actually prefers applicants with humanities degrees rather than general business degrees.
>>71180 >I meet a lot of people who seriously believe they will get a job in their own towns high school or college teaching. When I was in a teaching certification program, I was assured this.
Maybe it isn't so much people are naively believing it, but that they are fed misinformation to keep the trade attractive?
>>71206 You can offer lectures on a street corner for tips. Don't come near the train station, though, that's my spot.
>>71194 >Think something along the lines of Comfort Suites, Hampton, La Quinta, etc etc etc. Yeah, I get you. Not too shabby, m8.
>It was only an extra 3 classes to turn the PoliSci minor into a major I wish I knew better when I was starting in school, I was stubbornly going in for History and when I was getting tired of it, it was pretty late to try and change gears.
>I just didn't want to go into bureaucracy, although I did join the National Guard after college. I've been mulling over the idea of maybe running for local office in a few years. I'm the kind of guy who would rather help manage a campaign than be the guy, but if you're up for local office, kudos bro. What party would you run under? Or would you rather independent?
>>71216 No worries, I just found this place so I thought I'd ask people about their experiences from when they were in school, if they went to school.
I've also been waiting a long while for a /his/ board, ever since the Liberian Civil War threads on /int/ and shit.. those were fun, too.
And thanks, m8, I hope you have your share of a good life, too. You don't seem like a dick, so you'll go far.
Well, I'm in Texas, and a lot of the local positions are strictly non-partisan. Although if I ran for a position that was partisan, I'd run as a Republican. Democrats generally don't get elected here (unless you live in the center of the major cities), and the *real* election for state wide offices is the Republican primary, not the general election in November.
>>71272 >But the history faculty - phenomenal stuff, absolutely brilliant.
That sucks about the English folk, but thank God for the small blessings of good history colleagues.
>That's weird, because when I was in high school, the teachers put a strong emphasis on historical societies and 'what life was like for them'. I remember when we were learning about the Vikings - we weren't taught anything about invasions (apart from the British) or trade routes, Christianisation, or anything - just how Viking society functioned and their religion. I envy your high school, then. We had a few state-mandated exams back then that really necessitated that kind of emphasis on dates instead of actual comprehension of the material..
Societies and life experiences are always more interesting, I'm glad I got a decent taste of it in college at the very least.
>>71299 Nice, what's your opinion of the Battle of Kosovo and shit?
>>71344 You make a History degree sound breddy good, man.
>>71407 If you don't like it, you can always switch up your focus. It's never worth quitting, man.
What would you like to study besides Classic shit?
>>71484 >What would you like to study besides Classic shit?
I really wanted to study philosophy, but the course is so inflated these days, so I couldn't get in, but honestly, it really doesn't matter, because I don't think I'm university material as a person anyway. Too much of having to prove myself all the time, and my nervous system can't handle it.
>>71490 What do you mean? It's a Bachelor's course. Gotta start somewhere?
>>71442 >a lot of the local positions are strictly non-partisan A good rule to live by.
But I understand the bit about Republican domination (not including cities). I myself would be a Blue Dog Dem or just a conservative. Not much love for the Republican party at the moment, from me or my area (Chicago).
>>71490 Because everything sounds doable when you're a freshman.
>>71515 It's whatever you want to do, man. Do you not like History+Philosophy? What other ideas did you have about your short-term plans?
>>71408 Oh man, I'm very ignorant about titles / court etiquette / ceremonies and all that but I remember this
though court ceremonies and positions etc were fairly Important, I can't name the title but the most ridiculous one to me was the Imperial Barber, who was far more influence compared to senators / governors etc due to being close to emperor and having emperors ears
ridiculous, I wish julian lasted a bit longer, he had cut of a lot of bullshit court officials
>>71539 you need latin,greek,german and most likely french for that
go to summer school ASAP, get an intensive greek sumemr school this summer and next latin, at the meantime began to study german and get to know at least one modern langauge alongside 2 ancient ones
t. byzaboo phd fag, I suffered a lot, talking from experience.
>>71539 >I really wanted to study philosophy, but the course is so inflated these days, so I couldn't get in, but honestly, it really doesn't matter, because I don't think I'm university material as a person anyway. Too much of having to prove myself all the time, and my nervous system can't handle it. There's no shame in feeling overwhelmed when starting college, but there's no reason to assume you just can't hack it.
Maybe you can seek some support at your school's clinic, they can help you overcome having to "prove yourself" all the time.
>>71647 >Maybe you can seek some support at your school's clinic, they can help you overcome having to "prove yourself" all the time.
Yeah, but that is the nature of University though. You constantly have to prove that you understand and can use the material you have learned critically. I recently had a paper due on Sophocles, and I did okay I guess, got a B+, but I was so exhausted afterwards that I literally couldn't get out of bed for 5 days.
>all those people posting about how they will go in business because of some CEOs with history degrees Anons, you need to realize two things: >it's not gonna work if you don't have family relations >those people given as examples started working in a context where full employment was the norm.
The blue area means you get a manager's job with even a high school certificate. The grey area means you need two masters and speak three languages to be hired as a secretary.
I ain't saying to not do studies. But be prepared for disappointment, because shit sucks.
>>71598 >not studying a field where you are paid a livable wage just for going to grad school Im in the Chemistry PHD program at UNC Chapel Hill and I pay nothing for my tuition, housing, or meal plan and im paid $25,000 a year just to research and TA for 2 classes a semester. It ist a lot of money yes but I have no expenses so its whatever
I'm also a semester away from graduating, with a BFA in Art History (yeah, those initials are correct). I'm going down the PhD track for a museum career, but I've been lucky enough to meet a lot of helpful people in my field. It's tough, but there's a lot to do. Look into museum professions - there's more than curators. Museum education, registrars, database management, etc. The digital humanities are really getting somewhere too. My local museum has a few positions dedicated to digitizing their rare book collection. And I know a few recent PhD grads who have fellowships just to figure out how to use the internet to make people learn the humanities.
I don't worry about it cause I fucking love my field. And I'll never, literally never get my dream job if I stop now. Just don't fool yourself into thinking you're getting a tenured teaching position any time soon. Luckily, I hate teaching, so you won't be competing with me.
>>71756 >Do you use references when writing an essay on a primary source? Sometimes. >How the fuck am I meant to find journals or books which will be proper references when writing this essay on a primary source? JSTOR >I'm writing the essay on a chapter from a book Ok >Am i being retarded? Nah
>>71770 It's just economics senpai. Yeah sure you can bank on being the outlier but that's pretty much banking on winning the lottery. Most people will NOT get a job that corresponds to the expectations set by their degree, especially if you use people who started working 40 years ago to set the bar.
Education inflation is a hell of a thing. Honestly I think it'd be better for everyone if colleges tightened their entry selection.
>>71806 I'm writing an essay on a chapter from "The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano"
I was told it had to be fully referenced. The essay doesn't have a thesis but I am to write about the purpose of the document/chapter, the writer, the intended audience, the credibility of the document/chapter, it's effect on myself and what I can extrapolate from the person who produced it etc.
>go to pick out my new classes because registration soon >school arbitrarily added 3 more fucking required classes completely unrelated to my major shit like this is what causes my depression, like seriously, these classes were not requirements last semester or fuck even earlier this year all of a sudden I have to take them someone shoot me
Thinking of pursuing a degree in Psychology to be a therapist of some sort. How fucked am I? I just want to help and interact with people better than I can now. And of course is Psychology under the humanities or not?
Got a master's degree in history in Belgium, and now I'm getting another degree in history of international relations in Oxford. I always loved history, and I'm trying to get some employability out of it by studying international relations history. I aspire to become a diplomat/representative.
>>71206 >>71206 Loads of graduate jobs. You need to get out of the mentality of a certain degree leading to a certain job (unless it's something like medicine ect). A lot of jobs don't care what your degree is in, just that you have one.
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