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Despite the fact that I've studied most of western civilization, I've never got around to learning about Napoleon. I know he's a short French man who is really a short Italian man.
I love Revolutionary France and the Napoleonic wars - very fascinating. It is worth noting that Napoleon was not actually short - he was 5'6 which was average height for a man at the time. Also he was Corsican, which basically is Italian but they had their own language (a derivative form of Italian) and all. He also hated France until his mid 20's, at which time he was a Brigadier-General for the French army.
Watch Sharpe senpai.

Waterloo (The 70's Russian-Italian film) is also breddy gud.

That's how I got myself interested in the Napoleonic wars.
Revolutionary France is insanity, well worth reading up on. Good reads: Glory and Terror, Antoine De Baecque

Zizek presents Robespierre: Virtue and Terror

Napoleon is a great study, but can't remeber any good reads on him off the top of my head.

As for things I know nothing about: World War I/II
Muh public school.
>ancient egypt
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>Watch Sharpe

An unhistorical Rambo-tier serie set in a remote theater of the Napoleonic Wars?
I cringed everytime Sharpe and his three m8s took down an entire cavalry unit CoD style
I don't know much about eastern Europe pre-Rurikid.

I don't know much about central asia and oceania.
I'd add Hornblower and Master and Commander for based British Navy. Hornblower has a really good look at what happened when a French noble tried to stage a counter-revolution
I never claimed it was historically accurate anon.

Just that it can lead to being interested in the period.

Forgot about Master and Commander, another good watch.
I know next to nothing about Roman History in the Common Era. I had a pretty cursory read of Gibbons, but you know, it's hit or miss apparently.

I know nothing about most of South American history besides a vague outline of Bolivar's biography.

South Asian history prior to colonialism and post Vietnam War is an absolute blank for me.

Know almost nothing about pre-Raj India.

I honestly don't know very much about history, I just have a pretty okay idea of the vague agreed-upon causality and timeline of important events.
Decline and fall of the Byzantine Empire.
He was born to a family of minor nobility in Corsica a few months after Genoa had sold the island to the French because they couldn't handle the uprisings for independence. His father was a Corsican freedom fighter (though it's also entirely possible his actual father was a French general who crushed the rebellion). When he was young his family's close ties with the latter man allowed him to attend a prestigious military university in Paris, where he was acclaimed for his valor and ambition. After graduating he returned to Corsica as an artillery officer and stayed there for quite a while until the French Revolution came around. In 1795 he displayed his military genius at the Siege of Toulon where he defeated the British.

Some time after Toulon he was recognized for his prowess and put in charge of L'Armee d'Italie, which was a small and ill-equipped force of undisciplined conscripts who were to serve as a distraction for a massive offensive in Germany. While the highly professional and large army in Germany failed to make decisive advancements, Napoleon stormed through Italy with his small army and forced the Austrians to totally surrender the war.

That's at least all his earlier years.
Listen to Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast. He has a six part series called "Blueprint for Armageddon" that is fucking really good and it's all about WW1. He also has one on the Mongols that is great, too.
Oh, if only Kubrick had made the Napoleon film he wanted to make. But we still got the masterpiece that is Barry Lyndon, though.

he was actually taller than the average Frenchmen, and the misconception comes about due to a discrepancy in size between french feet (unit of measurement) and British feet

made for good British propaganda though
The French Revolution is pretty much the most important event in history. You oughta learn about it. Although one can spend a lifetime learning all the details and still lack the ability to understand its implications
All I know about South American history is that Brazil and some other countries kicked Paraguay's shit in sometime in the 1800s.
Pre-Rurikid Eastern Europe wass essentially a bunch of feuding Slavic tribes raiding and fighting each other.
In the middle of it now. Really enjoyed the Mongol one as well, though I went into it with a lot more background knowledge.

Ancient Greek.

Was barry lyndon a masterpiece for the costumes and sets or the overall story and directing? I watched it with my girlfriend i thought it was beautifully filmed, quite humorous if not long drawn out.
its pretty good. If you something truly amazing in regards to costume and dress accuracy, check out Ridley Scott's The Duellists
What about before the Slavs?

I'm on an old movie binge right now i'll check it out, i've heard about it and considered it plenty times but i'll give it a download, hope i'm not being watched, thanks.
You're missing out, his life story is so good it seems like fiction.
It's one of the best photgraphed films ever made. Kubrick knew that the image was always first and foremost, a reason why his films were so good. The music is 11/10. Plus it's an amazing tragic story about a man who achieves so much only to destroy it all. Just amazing. Kubrick was able to use his actors to great extent, and Lord Bullington is great. All in all an amazing film.
the proto-slavs where squatting
This, I'm surprised there arn't more movies about him just because of how almost-fictional his entire life seems to be
Is that boromir?
So like the guy from highlander basically. But seriously I would like to know about pre-slavic eastern Europe. I guess you had Iranian nomadic peoples like the Sycthians in the area...
Did you ever read about Kubrick's planned film? He basically couldn't do it because that Waterloo movie was a box office failure (despite the fact it is fucking great)
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You came to the wrong peninsula frog.
The Waterloo film IS fucking great, but would a non history sperg like it? I couldn't imagine watching it with my Mother on a Sunday afternoon like I do most history biopics. I think she'd like a good biopic, though.

Apparently Spielberg is doing one but thats been in the works forever.
No its Ned Stark
One could say he hated france
Another could say he hated their france and loved his france
its a great spectacle, but it think its a little like Gettysburg in that you wont be able to probably enjoy it unless you know about the battle.

at the very least, keep a map with you while watching
It is a rare woman who would watch Waterloo imo. She might dig the Duellists because its less macro. The Duellists is a different kind of movie but just as good.
He wasn't that short. French inches were longer than English inches, which are both different from modern inches.

He was short by modern standards (I think 5'7" ?), but by the standards of the era he was completely average.

He was also a goddamn military genius and crowned himself Emperor of the French, so he had that going for him.
The Guns of August is a good intro book if you want WW1
Realism in TV is never gonna happen, but I'd like to see a series at least noting how much ass the French kicked int he Napoleonic wars.

I mean, they went to war with EVERYONE around them and won, what, five times? Six?
One of the things Kubrick was fascinated by with Napoleon was his self destruction, and his rise from nothing to the top only to lose it all, which you can see in the film he made with the research he had done after he couldn't make a Napoleon film. (>>80266) It's still sad he never was able to make it, but I wonder if a script is still floating around somewhere.
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I don't know shit about anything going on in China or India from the dawn of humanity until the last few decades

It's been on my to-do list of things to seriously read up on for a while but I just haven't gotten to it yet
Not just that, but the exile and comeback is just straight up unrealistic. Its like a really bad third act of a film that is done perfectly.

Glad there are some Boneyboos in here desu.
Pretty much anything China, Japan or East Asia.

I don't even like France that much and this fills me with national pride.
there's been talk about Spielberg making a mini-series out of it
Napoleon was a great general, but he also was very lucky. His military career began in a time when France needed a lot of officers. Thats why he was promoted so quickly.
He also was lucky than in some of his early battles, like Toulon, he was in a division were the political commissioner was from Corsica, just like him. This allow Napoleon to have a power position inside his army before been a commander, since the generals had to obbey the political commissioner or they would face the chance of being executed as traitors and, of course, the political commissioner of the Napoleon division only listen to him.
Anything past general knowledge of the civil war, Subsaharan African histroy, and pre sengoku Japan.
Oh. No one could quite make a film like Kubrick could, the way he used images and his genius was just insane. But we'll see what happens. I have a .pdf of the script I'm working through now.
nice digits

with China, focus on the Qing dynasty, especially from 1839-1842 (First Opium War) onwards. Its some of the most relevant history to modern China, and will go a long way to helping you understand modern Chinese nationalism (this stuff is a really important part of history education in China)
All great generals are lucky. A stray bullet here, a misunderstood command there, and any great general could have faded into just being another name in history.
Script is available online m8
>the misconception comes about due to a discrepancy in size between french feet (unit of measurement) and British feet
I thought it was a misattribution of his "little corporal" nickname.
That is also truth
Yeah I found it.
This. Pay special attention to revolutionary China and Mao's China. Try Red Star Over China, Edgar Snow for some interesting soft history journalism.
Wasn't there a story of a woman making fun of his height at a soiree causing him to smack the dog shit out of her?

Something along the lines of his penis must be short too.
What a scene
>Wasn't there a story of a woman making fun of his height at a soiree causing him to smack the dog shit out of her?

Did you read that in the Dailymail or something?
Histories about Revolutionary France always rush full tilt through Napoleon's conquests. I still have no idea how this guy did it.
He just rose through the ranks. They rush through it because there is no miracle to it, he was a skilled young officer in the artillery regiment, he led the French army in Italy and Egypt, then he led the nation.
Can someone summarize specifically what about Napoleons military strategy was innovative/revolutionary? What was he good at, and how did he use it to such great effect?
Effective use of artillery and great intuition. Plus fanatically loyal soldiers.
WW2, Rome, Crusades, etc. I've never really cared to learn for since they are the first things you really learned about history and my teachers were shit so I just skipped straight to weird shit.
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to find free books

here is annotated bibliography focusing on:

Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth

Late Antiquity
Roman Empire

Battle of Manzikert
Fall of Constantinople

Greek History: Hellenistic
see pic related for classical greece
The Greek World
Companion to the Classical Greek World
A History of the Classical Greek World
And your super duper rifle regiment was routed by a faceless group of voltigeurs. YOUR WEAPON IS A FUCKING GIMMICK YOU DUMB COALITION SHOPKEEPER ISLAND RESIDENT.
This. Alexander inherited his father's military machine and invaded Persia at a time where it was not particularly strong. The weather was literally right for Genghis Khan's conquests, apparently (not to mention a number of other factors). And no doubt there have been countless military geniuses who never had the opportunity to shine because the deck was stacked hopelessly against them.
He hated France until the Revolution
He loved Revolutionary France though, and kept its ideals about equality and meritocracy even during the Empire
Napoleon's Empire was basically Revolutionary France without the chaos, and it was much better to live in than the Monarcy (which is why the people welcomed him so warmly when he came back in 1815)
Can you get me any resources on:
>French Polynesia
World War 1 and World 2 history, senpai?
I understand where you're coming from, but Rome is a huge chunk of history and has an even longer shadow. I had a similar reaction, but ended up just glossing over the stuff teachers had made uninteresting for me, and discovered that there is so much more, other, interesting stuff. I'm personally a fan of late antiquity, and the transition of Roman to Medieval society. I feel like until I boned up on that a bit, I really didn't understand the Middle Ages at all.
Korean history. I could honestly not tell you why north and south are so different. Africa is more my thing.
for yoruba

Reid, Richard J. Warfare in African History. New York: Cambridge University Press, 2012.
>Although this superb overview covers the full sweep of African history from Antiquity to the present in just 183 pages, over half the book deals almost exclusively with the precolonial period. Reid gives an excellent survey of military systems and warfare throughout the precolonial period and across the entire continent.

Stapleton, Timothy J. A Military History of Africa. Vol. 1, The Precolonial Period: From Ancient Egypt to the Zulu Kingdom (Earliest Times to cs. 1870). Santa Barbara, CA: Praeger, 2013.
>For anyone looking for a single monograph on the general subject of precolonial African military history, this is the place to begin. Stapleton has neatly organized the work into five regional chapters, with one each on North Africa, West Africa, East Africa, Central Africa, and Southern Africa.

Lamphear, John, ed. African Military History. Burlington, VT: Ashgate, 2007.
>Part of Ashgate’s International Library of Essays on Military History series, this excellent collection of previously published articles includes a variety of chapters on a wide range of topics. Citations and annotations for the individual chapters are listed in the appropriate section of this article.

Ajayi, J. F. Ade, and Michael Crowder, eds. History of West Africa. 3d ed. 2 vols. London: Longman, 1985–1986.
>The two volumes offer a comprehensive overview of West African societies from prehistoric times to the 20th century.
Thank you!
Coquery-Vidrovitch, Catherine. The History of African Cities South of the Sahara: From the Origins to Colonization. Translated by Mary Baker. Princeton, NJ: Markus Wiener, 2005.
>Using archival and archaeological evidence (among other sources), the author reconstructs the history of some of the advanced ancient cultures in Africa south of the Sahara, in addition to their contributions to world trade between the 16th and 19th centuries.

French Polynesia
Borofsky, Robert, ed. Remembrance of Pacific Pasts: An Invitation to Remake History. Honolulu: University of Hawai‘i Press, 2000.
>A massive volume that combines articles by many key Pacific scholars with reflections by some exemplary postcolonial scholars of other fields, including James Clifford, Richard White, Gyan Prakash, and Edward Said. A successful attempt at a postmodern survey of historiography, contact, colonialism, and decolonization.

Campbell, Ian C. Worlds Apart: A History of the Pacific Islands. Christchurch, New Zealand: Canterbury University Press, 2003.
>An extended and revised edition of Campbell’s popular History of the Pacific Islands (1989), this version continues Campbell’s well-considered balance between island-centered history and an analysis of cross-cultural contact. There are now more chapters as well on contemporary events from a historical perspective.

Denoon, Donald, Malama Meleisea, Stewart Firth, Jocelyn Linnekin, and Karen Nero, eds. The Cambridge History of the Pacific Islanders. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press, 1997.
>Probably the most authoritative history to date, it covers themes from first settlement to the postcolonial state, with good bibliographic essays in each section. A modern child of the Davidson paradigm of island-centered scholarship.
Matsuda, Matt K. Pacific Worlds: A History of Seas, Peoples, and Cultures. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press, 2012.
>Unusual in its breadth, which includes the Asian and American borders of the Pacific, this book has been acclaimed for its combination of grand themes and micro-biographies. It is an important contribution with a world-historical emphasis.

Oliver, Douglas L. The Pacific Islands. 3d ed. Honolulu: University of Hawai‘i Press, 1989.
>The first edition (1961) was a classic and popular set text; the third edition only partly updated the scholarship. The chapters on precolonial times remain significant but the analysis of Islander agency with the onset of colonialism is limited. The updated version runs with the current fashion of excluding Australian Aborigines and naming Europeans now as “invaders” instead of as “aliens.”

Scarr, Deryck. The History of the Pacific Islands: Kingdoms of the Reefs. South Melbourne, Australia: Macmillan, 1990.
>Generally better received by fellow Pacific scholars than Campbell’s, this survey is less accessibly written and takes less interest in social and cultural dynamics. It is, however, strong in its survey of prehistoric times and narrates well the political and economic history of colonialism in the Pacific.
Seriously, what went wrong? I know next to nothing about how this shit collapsed.
All I found on Merina
Randrianja, Solofo, and Stephen Ellis. Madagascar: A Short History. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2009.
>This book, cowritten by historians specializing in Madagascar in the 18th, 19th, and 20th centuries, is both accessible and thorough. The writers rely on recent scholarship to examine the early settlement of the island, the first centralized states, the Merina Empire, the colonial period, and the postcolonial period. Appropriate for nonspecialists and undergraduates.

Bradt, Hilary, and Mervyn Brown. Madagascar. World Bibliographical Series. Oxford: Clio, 1993.
>The annotations in this bibliography are helpful for researchers, although the list of sources is far from complete and focuses on published material.


This bibliography might have some works on haiti:
Black Atlantic and the Age of Revolutions


Blackburn, Robin. The Overthrow of Colonial Slavery, 1776–1848. New York: Verso, 1988.
>A Marxist interpretation of the abolition of slavery in the Western world, with the Haitian Revolution as a central element, in support of the idea that the enslaved played a crucial role in the history of emancipation. Blackburn opposes Eric Williams’s thesis to contend that slavery was abolished mainly for political reasons.

Dubois, Laurent. Avengers of the New World: The Story of the Haitian Revolution. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 2004.
>Relying on secondary and published sources as well as primary sources, this narrative has been translated into French and is considered the most compelling synthetic account. It is an excellent introduction to the complex questions raised by the Saint-Domingue insurrection and the successful revolution that ensued. Graduate students will greatly benefit from its erudite yet balanced coverage.
Garraway, Doris Lorraine. The Libertine Colony: Creolization in the Early French Caribbean. Durham, NC: Duke University Press, 2005.
>A study of French accounts of the social world of the French Antilles during the 17th and 18th centuries, with an emphasis on discourses surrounding gender and sexuality.

Garrigus, John D. Before Haiti: Race and Citizenship in French Saint-Domingue. Americas in the Early Modern Atlantic World. New York: Palgrave Macmillan, 2006.
>Provides an analysis of research on free people of color from the southern province of Saint Domingue, following the history of the group from colonial times through the revolution. Emphasizes the frontier nature of the colony and argues that this characteristic allowed for the development of a large mixed-race population and a society organized by a class hierarchy.

King, Stewart R. Blue Coat or Powdered Wig: Free People of Color in Pre-Revolutionary Saint Domingue. Athens, GA: University of Georgia Press, 2007.
>Studies the free colored population in Saint Domingue primarily using notarial records. Emphasizes distinctions between urban and rural groups and the occupations of individuals as planters or policemen and soldiers.

McLellan, James E. Colonialism and Science: Saint-Domingue in the Old Regime. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, 1992.
>Through an exploration of Enlightenment culture and thought in colonial Saint Domingue, this book provides one of the most detailed portraits of the social and cultural life among the planter elite in the colony.
interesting book right here

any particular thing? or just a general overview? cause its a very big subject
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Best day of my life
Look for Alcácer Quibir, the Iberian union (the wars against the dutch), the earthquake of 1755, british ban on slave trade and for some icing on the cake, the takeover of goa and Timor Leste.

The portuguese fall from grace is a sad story.
Why not. It sounds like he wanted to make Downfall, in French.
general overview please

why it happened
important events
who participated and why

Porch, Douglas. Hitler’s Mediterranean Gamble: The North African and the Mediterranean Campaigns in World War II. London: Weidenfeld & Nicholson, 2004.
>The best modern overall account, which covers the entire course of the war in the Mediterranean from Mussolini’s declaration of war to the final surrender of German forces in Italy in 1945. Porch argues that, although the United States did not wish to become entangled in the Mediterranean, the subsequent development of the campaign was an essential precursor for Allied victory.

D’Este, Carlo. World War II in the Mediterranean: 1942–1945. New York: Algonquin, 1990.
>A broad but useful overview of the entire campaign.

Ienaga, Saburo. The Pacific War: 1931–45. Translated by Frank Baldwin. New York: Pantheon, 1978.
>Ienaga connects the failure of democracy at home and imperialism in Korea and China with Japan’s catastrophe. Rather than the military aspects, this volume emphasizes the sufferings of common people during the conflagration. Originally published in 1968 (Tokyo: Iwanami Shoten).

Paine, S. C. M. The Wars for Asia: 1911–1949. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press, 2012.
>Traces the linkages between Japan’s ambition in China and Tokyo’s broader goals in Asia.

Thorne, Christopher. The Far Eastern War: States and Societies, 1941–45. London: Unwin, 1986.
>Though a bit dated, still the best wide-ranging survey of matters military and nonmilitary.

Willmott, H. P. The Second World War in the Far East. London: Cassell, 1999.
>This book is beautifully illustrated with diagrams, charts, and color photographs and accompanied by a highly informative narrative. It is an essential volume for the undergraduate students.
Stone, David R., ed. The Soviet Union at War, 1941–1945. Barnsley, UK: Pen & Sword, 2010.
>New collection of essays, including Mark Harrison on industry and the economy; Reina Pennington on women’s roles, both military and civilian; and several essays focused on effects on civilians, nationalities, and the rural population. Many essays refer to Stalingrad.

Mawdsley, Evan. Thunder in the East: The Nazi-Soviet War 1941–1945. London: Hodder Arnold, 2007.
>A broader overview than Glantz and House 1995, incorporating diplomatic and economic aspects of the war, and adding material from another decade’s worth of Soviet archival materials. Accessible and nicely structured to keep readers on track. A glossary, chronology, and other supporting appendices are useful. More appreciative of Zhukov’s abilities than is Glantz.

Glantz, David M., and Jonathan M. House. When Titans Clashed: How the Red Army Stopped Hitler. Lawrence: University Press of Kansas, 1995.
>The best overview of military operations. A single, accessible book, focusing on the transformation of the Red Army from a “stumbling colossus” to a strategically savvy, well-organized, and combat-capable force. Excellent appendix on archival sources, and no serious researcher should fail at least to skim the extensive, substantive notes.

Bellamy, Chris. Absolute War: Soviet Russia in the Second World War. New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 2007.
>Excellent survey of the war as a whole, with an emphasis on military aspects and a more extensive discussion of the first two years than of the latter half of the war. Incorporates recently available Russian sources and fresh interpretations; useful for researchers at all levels.
Also the fact the Old Guard, who were his bodyguards and thus always around Napoleon, were taller than average for the intimidation factor
Beckett, Ian F. W. The Great War, 1914–1918. 2d ed. Harlow, UK: Pearson/Longman, 2007.
>Beckett provides an excellent survey of the Great War. Detailed, knowledgeable, and very well referenced, with an excellent bibliography, maps, and chronology, it contains much on the Western Front.

Sondhaus, Lawrence. World War I: The Global Revolution. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press, 2011.
>Aimed at general readers and students, Sondhaus provides an impressive array of sources to support his informed global history of the war, with up-to-date syntheses of the latest publications on the subject.

Stevenson, David. Cataclysm: The First World War as Political Tragedy. New York: Basic Books, 2004.
>A magisterial overview that examines the war’s outbreak, escalation, outcome, and legacy. Contains an extensive bibliography and a number of useful maps.

Strachan, Hew. The First World War. Vol. 1, To Arms. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2001.
>In the first of three planned volumes, Strachan examines the causes of the war and its opening battles on land and sea, and includes the economic history of the war, the war in Africa, and the expansion of the war outside Europe.

Strachan, Hew. The First World War: A New Illustrated History. London: Simon & Schuster, 2003.
>Written with a general audience in mind, to accompany the critically acclaimed television series The First World War. The book is richly illustrated and contains a lot of material on the Western Front, but also on all other aspects of the war.
Sondhaus- Global Revolution
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>Millions of videos on Youtube of Napoleon getting mad at meme tier shit

I need this in my life.
OK, I actually don't know much about Napoleon. When is his Steiner moment?
What made Napoleon so popular? Was it the Civil Code or something like that? Or was he only popular among soldiers?
The latest Dan Carlin podcast really opened up how little I knew about the Middle East in the ancient era. My history class basically went
>Fertile Crescent
>Cuneiform and Sumerians

And that was the end. I only knew that people like the Assyrians and Akkadians exist from documentaries/films about Egypt. I feel a little silly for saying this, but I honestly had no idea where to put the Jews and the Old Testament into the historical timeline until that podcast.
Do you have like a catalog of books for all history?
If you do can you post a pastebin of it?
Among soldiers he was loved for his skill
Among civilians he was loved because he restored order in the chaos that was Revolutionary France
He won and didn't stop winning.
If he also didn't make life hard for the French, he seems way better than most other leaders France could possibly get. I'd follow a guy like that into Russian int the winter
I have gotten a few of the articles from this site for free which I put on paste bin. I've also bought a few. The rest I just search the topic someone wants and post all the books that aren't behind the paywall. I add a bookzz link if it's available.
That was an affectionate nickname coined by his own soldiers. They called him that because he was really skin when he was young, and would constantly wear an oversized coat during the Revolurionary days.
Thanks senpai
he got real famous for supressing a royalist revolist in Paris in 1795

he invaded egypt was was successful initially, but his fleet was BTFO by Nelson and the second coalition was BTFOing france in the mainland so he had to leave his soldiers in Egypt and Syria

napoleon basically kicked ass in italy, propping up so called sister republics (aka puppet states)

and by the end of 1799 he was the first consul aka the main man in france

notice how good of a story this already is, and this is even before he declares himself emperor and before his most well known battles take place

also he literally BTFO austria so many times it's quite hilarious to see austria scheming to make another coalition just to get BTFO
>also he literally BTFO austria so many times it's quite hilarious to see austria scheming to make another coalition just to get BTFO

It's incredible how inept the Austrians were up until Schwarzenberg took the reins. They consistently fought with outdated tactics for ocer 20 years.

I think Napoleon's mind was a bit clouded when it came to Austria due to Marie Louise, otherwise it would have suffered the same fate as Prussia at Tilsit.
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