I support this. It's still anonymous, but you're accountable to your words and can't samefag...
Unless someone is so committed to shilling they're swapping IPs to bump their own threads.I'd like to think that history buffs are critical thinkers in general and would have no problem spotting a bullshitter.
>>83146 No it doesn't. If you want users identifiable by every post in a thread, join a fucking regular forum.
>>83309 >you're accountable to your words Top lel. No you aren't, first of all - as you say - you can swap IPs with trivial ease. Secondly, people shitpost on regular forums with usernames, IDs don't help with the issue at all. (See /pol/ for example, there's still a flood of shitposts even though IDs are enabled.)
The only value IDs could possibly hold is if one poster is consistently delivering useful information on a single topic within a thread. We have another site function for users who wish to do that: TRIPCODES.
>>83736 >Following conversations If you're too dumb to follow reply chains and recognize typing styles, you don't belong on the internet unassisted.
The content a post is sufficient to judge that post, you do not need a 100% accurate identifier of that user's post history in the thread. You can make inferences from reply chains and if those turn out wrong there is no great loss.
Furthermore there is no evidence that IDs discourage trolls. Even account registration (adding another step to ban evasion) doesn't discourage trolls on regular sites, why the hell would a half-measure system help on 4chan?
It will not discourage the things it is meant to discourage and it would be useful only for a very specific situation, while taking away the anonymity. There are not good reasons to do it and it'd be useless.
>>83916 >It does get complex Very rarely. Nowhere near often enough to justify the compromise in anonymity that occurs as a result. >you have this >>83778 Where's the problem? What is the relevance of your identity to this thread? (It's quite useful for identifying anyone using it as being silly, but that's about it.)
>>83950 Flags would turn us into /int/ 2.0, not /pol/ 2.0, but that's another story.
Incidentally, where is this great deluge of trolling that needs to be discouraged?
>>84003 >tripcodes are dumb unless it's for one specific thread where your identity is relevant to the conversation, Exactly the use case I suggested. >which would be extremely rare on this board. I can see some /k/ style infodumps happening, or story threads where someone talks about how their grandpa killed fiddy men. >at least with IDs the shitposter would have to actually apply themselves to not only change IDs but bump a post in a manner that didnt seem like they were samefagging something. This is not difficult. (Furthermore, some shitposters can just keep their IDs - a lot of users don't know about the filter system so they'll always hook a few people with bait.) >the rest of us should make them work to earn their e-badges of valor. If you want to contain shitposting, better moderation is the solution, not identities.
I guess ID's aren't explicitly needed, but I just hate it when people brigade a thread to make it seem like there's a consensus or that one side won out. The ID's would he like /pol/'s and would be unique to each thread.
>>84481 >Proof it does is shown I must have missed that. Reiterate any proof that IDs reduce the incidence of trolling. Protip: He used the same face in the name box as me!! isn't trolling. If you cared enough about maintaining YOUR identity, you would use a tripcode.
>What are you afraid of? I am afraid of nothing. I do not see the utility in adding IDs, the burden of proof that IDs would be a beneficial change (And worth any compromises, such as to anonymity) lies with those in favor of IDs.
That way you can know if the person you are debating has a history of trolling or if they have inconsistent opinions from topic to topic. This will make it easier to win debates with posters who lack in coherent ideas.
>>84840 >Two reasons stand You've failed to prove they reduce trolling. It's a canard and nothing more. >You can *ignore* a pol poster. Or even *filter* them. If a janitor isn't around to clean up a thread, YOU do it. Most users don't do this, so unless you also filter those who reply to them (in which case the thread becomes filled with gaps) you're still going to see the fallout.
>>84832 >At least with IDs you have to back up your opinions Where do people get this deluded idea? People make stupid posts with no supporting evidence on regular forums all of the time. People do so on /pol/ which has IDs, why would /his/ be any different?
>>85074 >No confusion at all. except where people samefag using their phones or change their computer's IP, which is far more frequent than confusion in reply chains. >Work like the post number counter in tracking ruse posters. invite people to make unwarranted accusations? [post/ip ratio > 1? thread is full of samefags, conversation does not exist.] >3. Singles out shitposters for your convenience. Hide/report/filter at your whim. and end up with gaps in the conversation (and allow people to hugbox themselves by hiding all dissenting opinions.)
>>85621 You've failed to provide proof of any of this.
>>85701 >Lets twist this around till it's just as bad as it is now >and allow people to hugbox >People should never be able to communicate history in a polite way. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MEMES Frogposter spotted.
>>85714 WHO ARE YOU EVEN? (Not that I care. No offense)
>>85926 >People should never be able to communicate history in a polite way. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MEMES this man contains so much straw that a global famine is imminent as all food producing countries have swapped to straw because the demand for straw to fill him is that far beyond the market supply that straw now outvalues even platinum.
'hugbox' in this sense does not refer to impoliteness, 'hugbox' in this sense refers to 'i'm going to filter anyone who posts evidence which contradicts my viewpoint, then act indignant when they reappear in later threads.'
>>89598 >But the post/ip ratio will always be equal or higher to 1 you faggot no shit, his point was about those retards who come into a thread with say 25 IPs and 50 posts and go SURE IS SAMEFAG IN HERE :^)
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