I think the line between east and west is bullshit, in some cases it's true. Eastern religions and western religions are formulated differently based on perspective. In the west, we tend to imagine literal manifestations. Dogmatic. It's the only way we can visualize things. Compare it to western medicine and eastern medicine.
>>83986 Gotta scare them peasants m8. The medieval catholic church extorted money from ignorant people by fear mongering.
"Your mother burns in agony in purgatory but for a modest fee you can paragon her to paradise. Yeeees. Just a few coins my humble peasant. Once the coin in the coffer rings, out of purgatory the soul springs. The Holy Father needs to build that sepulchre."
>>83986 >>90086 The Bible is very clear about it: Hell is a place that exists and people who aren't saved will end there forever. Pretty much anybody who has read it will tell you that. There are tens of verses at least who support the idea of Hell existing, and none supporting the idea that it's just a metaphor, or whatever you people believe. Here's just a few examples:
37He answered, "The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.
40"As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear. Revelation 21:8
8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” Matthew 25:41
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
>>90534 It's 3 examples, and I could get plenty more if I wanted. They all express where sinners end up after the last judgment, and that place is commonly referred to as "hell".
To make a long story short: God kills everyone on Earth, then resurrects everyone in flesh, then reads out names from the Book of Life. People who are in the book go into the New Jerusalem, which is a city that will descend physically on Earth from the sky, while people whose name aren't written in it will go to the lake of fire along with the devil.
>>90593 >while people whose name aren't written in it will go to the lake of fire >tfw you sometimes think you're in hell because of human atrocities over the years Not to sound like I'm tipping a fedora, but really, considering what people have gone through, I always saw Hell as earth itself. Minus the magic regeneration so people can't escape.
>>90740 >I always saw Hell as earth itself. Minus the magic regeneration so people can't escape. That's not the Biblical view of Hell. However, it's stated clearly that the devil is the "prince of this world" (which doesn't mean it's hell, since the devil isn't stated to have control of hell in the bible. He's supposed to be punished in it).
>>90810 Sorry, I only know bits and pieces of the bible from a Baptist church as a kid and studying bits of the New Testament. But I see Hell and the devil (in biblical terms) in a sense that another anon mentioned earlier, scare tactics. Greeks and Romans had impressive displays to make their gods look like the best ever, I see no reason why Christians wouldn't do a similar thing.
>>90896 >But I see Hell and the devil (in biblical terms) in a sense that another anon mentioned earlier, scare tactics. You'd be wrong to think that. Everything in the Bible should be taken as a literal record, unless it's specified otherwise (like when Jesus clearly states that what he's gonna say is a parable).
Any view other than this doesn't make sense, because everything is intertwined. For example, people often say that the story of Adam and Eve is metaphorical and didn't actually happen. What these people forget is that you have parts in the Bible that list complete genealogies going from Jesus all the way up to Adam. Whether you believe or not that these stories are true is your choice, but it's pretty clear that from a Biblical standpoints, these events happened or will happen in the future if it's a prophecy.
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