>>86173 Not only show up late, but pull their troops out of combat moments before an offensive was to be underway.
>On July 2, two days before the counteroffensive was scheduled to begin, Monash arranged for the popular Australian prime minister, Billy Hughes, to address some troops from each brigade, taking care that Hughes' visit would not disrupt preparations for the coming "show." Then Monash's planning hit a serious snag. During a visit to the U.S. II Corps headquarters, the AEF commander, General John J. Pershing, learned of the plan to commit American troops to the assault on Hamel and advised General Read that they should not participate. The next day, he telephoned with "further and positive instructions...that our troops should be withdrawn." Pershing believed it was better if American troops fought together rather than as scattered units among the Allied armies. He also wanted assurance that they were fully trained before committing them in offensive actions.
>>86222 >Early on July 3, Pershing's order to withdraw reached six of the 10 U.S. Army companies attached to the Australian Corps. The troops reacted with disappointment. Two Americans in the 42nd Battalion donned Queenslanders' tunics and stayed. The rest dutifully obeyed the order. The Americans' departure at that late juncture hurt Monash's meticulous plan badly because it required reorganizing Australian units -- the 16th Battalion's strength was halved, and the 11th Brigade's manpower dropped from 3,000 to 2,200 soldiers.
>>86324 Monash's offensives throughout France, not only devastating the morale of German high command but revolutionising the battlefield with combined arms warfare rather than throwing men at the trenches.
>>86353 That article discusses how it's a bad idea to combine an experienced company with inexperienced ones. Apparently the Australians would hop between cover at very precise moments with covering fire, and the Americans simply followed them straight afterwards, with complete disregard for the enemy.
>>86222 >Harrassing artillery fire kicked in at 3:02 a.m. For several weeks previously, Monash had ordered that high explosives, smoke bombs and poison gas shells be fired toward the target at about that time, a tactic intended to condition the defenders to regularly expect a barrage -- and make them think that the smoke masked the presence of gas. This time, however, Monash purposely omitted the gas, making it possible for his troops to move forward safely under cover of smoke and noise.
we were fighting a war that literally no one wanted to fight, on territory we never fought or cared for, with new shit we had never seen before. This wasnt the first time either, look at the union during the civil war, the commanders where the definition of fuck ups with Grant and Sherman coming a bit late to clean their mess
>>86350 >revolutionising the battlefield with combined arms warfare rather than throwing men at the trenches. monash while an extremely competent general did not invent combined arms, nor does "throwing men at the trenches" do justice to the strategy and tactics of the time
>>89000 The problem was a complete lack of communication structure when the offensive was taking place. Artillery was very likely to hit friendlies, air drops were always off target and ended up falling on German lines, not to mention the lack of communication between individual tanks.
I wouldn't write off Pershing so easily. He was the perfect man for organizing and administrating a 2 million man army from scratch on short notice. Yes, his tactical doctrine was shit, but pretty much everyone in the AEF thought the same way. I doubt any American could've done a better job than him.
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