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That is my shot on the niagara waterfall, a bit alternatised.
I used a small canvas , with tempera paint.
I'm a beginner, so I ask your aid.
How does one make a proper waterfall?
Any constructive criticism is appreciated
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there is my first canvas painting
I like blue ish colours

I also want to ask, how to mix vivid colours?
I feel that my paintings colours are stuck in mediocrity.
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Sorry for making the photos with a potato
>here's my first serious paper painting
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>>2621763
I like them, has a quality to them. but do you use photos, cause the skies are curved as if wide angle lens photo ref was used. read "alla prima" which you can find in the books thread.

waterfalls and moving shapes is taught as identifying the shapes which occur in the object and doing them with soft edges to imply movement. read the damn book lol.

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What tips do you prefer?
What ink flow do you prefer?
What are the results you get?
Etc.
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>>2626189
doesnt matter what tip as long as its just the tip.
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>>2626189
The Pentel pocket brush is absolutely fantastic when you get one with good flow, I love how fine you can get but still lay a good wet line when needed.
As a cheap alternative, a waterbrush filled with Ecoline or fountain pen ink is nice.

I haven't tried any of the Kuretakes yet, wtb the #40 sable whenever I need anything else from Japan.
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The pocket brush is my favorite. You can get an incredible range of different strokes from it. You can go really fucking thicc and really really thin, you can get nice wet strokes but also a dry stroke if you go fast to get a cool textured look. The downsides are that it's hard as balls to control and the cartridges are non-standard so if you want new ones you need to buy from pentel(I refill mine with a syringe though, works fine, fight the power). Once you get used to it though, it's fucking amazing.

There are also the pentel color brushes which have a little...
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I am by no means an astounding artist, but I drew something in March that I cannot stop loving. It's not my most skilled, but it just has that allure. We all have that sketch/painting/etc., share it with us.
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prepare to bleed
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>>2625896
They can crit (or shit talk) if they want, it'll only help. I made this thread for others.
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>>2625895
Damn son I usually cringe at work I've done even a month ago. You #stagnated?

If anyone here is using Scott Robertson's book to learn perspetive, do you use pen or pencil?
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both
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>>2626160
whatever you like later on, but it's recommended in the beginning exercises that you get comfortable with a pen first
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>>2626160
this book is a nightmare!!

stuck on chapter two. dont know what the hell he is talking about

Inspiration thread?
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based susini
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>>2616501
At least start with something good
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>>2616505
that rendering is pretty bad senpai

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How come no one has ever uploaded the Watts Atelier drawing programs videos?
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>>2621504
cause its too awesome for ic!
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>>2621504
Ugh yeah I know... The price is pretty steep. Though the content is probably pretty good. I think I've watched the quick sketch video he put on youtube 4 times now.
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Because you don't learn anything hoarding tutorials

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Whats keeping you from creating art? this is an honest question. What are you afraid of?
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failure
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>>2612305
Nothing.
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I obsessively draw the same person every time I pick up a pencil and it's not healthy

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I have an interesting issue that I wonder if anyone should shed some light on

how do you manage models?
I need a model or two for some stencil work I am doing, but I'm not sure how it really works

there are some issues I can forsee

the first is the anonymity of the models, if the identity of the model is known it could seriously detract from my work, but when I am using their likeness how can it be practically avoided?
am I expected to keep models identity a secret anyway?

the second is how do I hire a model?
by the hour? by the job?...
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>>2624870
>Find some "Models" on insta
>hit them in the DM
>offer like 25-30/hr
>Pretend like this is a routine thing, be professional
>When she shows up drop subtle hints that you're connected
>???
>She hops on your dick

"Models" is the keyword here, AKA delusional fucktoys...
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>>2625087
Wow. Youve got some issues with women, huh?
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>>2625087
a lot of them are actually like that, great plan if I wanted to get laid

however I am more interested in art

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Draw inside shape, post with new shape.
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bump. Last thread a while ago turned out pretty awesome.
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>>2624521
sorry anon, I am browsing 4chin at work right now
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>>2624213
like this? I'm not sure this is how it goes

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Grand Prize
>You drew everyday for a long time, longer than anyone else. Congratulations. You are the best

Rules
>Update every day at: http://www.lavaflake.com/draw/
>The deadline for submissions is 23:59:59 GMT each day
>You should spend at least 30 minutes on each update
>Miss a day and you lose a token, FAQ is the first post.
>Miss another day within a month and you're eliminated.

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>>2623952
This is a list of anons who regularly stream, this list will be updated as we move forward, if you wish to be included please post you name/stream profile.

>STREAMERS
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https://picarto.tv/namefag
https://picarto.tv/artscrub
https://picarto.tv/SubCryo


Streamers,...
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>>2623954
FAQ:
Something's broken, what do I do?

>The site is currently in the alpha phase of development and is being built around us as we compete so sometimes things go wrong. If you ever need any help send me a tweet @LavaFlake or shoot me an email lava@lavaflake.com.

What do we draw?

>Whatever you want. At this point there's no required topic so draw your heart out. Make sure you submit at least a half hour of work or you may get a low...
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Throwawayproject01@gmail.com

I'm looking for an artist or artists to work closely with. I've been working for years on a story that I need to turn into a reality. Ideally we could turn this into a comic, but I wouldn't be opposed to animation. We would obviously need voice actors at that point as well as an entire team dedicated to editing, etc. I'm driven and seeking only those who would be willing to pour their blood sweat and tears into this. I've been sitting on this for quite a while fine tuning every detail I can and I'm finally ready...
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>>2624320
What Is your budget?
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>>2624348
Square one. I'm willing to dump every dollar I have that's not putting food in my mouth into this. I've got my story, and that's all. That's why I was asking for passionate people. There's no immediate compensation, just the promise of hard work and a real shot at the dream
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>>2624358
get out

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Post your woodwork. Only three I took pictures of below.
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>>2623247

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We're looking to add some new people to our four month old Skype group, which has been pretty successful so far.
We chat about art and give crits.

There's also a weekly assignment to keep everyone involved, and to keep the lurks away. Here's an example of what we made for a weekly, with the theme of "dragons": http://imgur.com/a/CKahl
Only requirement for you to stay in the group is to submit a weekly at least once a month.
If you're interested in joining, post your skype username and preferably an example of your work.
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>>2597696
>skype
>ic
>group
>joining a skype full of mentally unstable artists where nothing but drama awaits
No thanks.
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I'd be interested in something like this, hit me up

ID: omgbearsrun
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>>2597697
I dunno man, you usually see these threads fill up with dozens of skype usernames, clearly the rest of /ic/ disagrees

A question for those of you that take pornography comissions. What is the average age/gender of most of your customers? I gotta know.
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I don't do commissions, because I haven't gotten gud yet, but how would you know? People aren't likely to tell you their personal details when buying porn, are they?
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>>2626059
Then why are you in this thread...
Thanks for the bump I guess

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I see them on ebay and aliexpress for like a dollar
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_BIN=1&_nkw=2mm+leadholder&_sop=15

I'm thinking about getting a few, does anyone have experience with them? or are they usually dead on arrival?
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>>2625689
Just buy a Staedtler Mars Technico. They are everywhere.
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Get a Fixpencil 22. Trust me, you won't look back.
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Lead holder is mostly a meme. Graphite is a bad medium to begin with. Sure, you could use them for other colored leads, but they're just as bad.

Please /ic/ , i need to know, wich pen was used in this drawing?
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>>2622068

It's called 'the pen that gives you 10 thousand free hours of practice'. I think they sell them at wal-mart.
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>>2622068
This again? I know exactly what pen that is, but I'm not going to tell you. Don't make threads for such irrelevant questions.
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It's just a normal Uni-Ball you can get at any store.

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What makes classic artwork so much better than modern artwork?
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>>2617914
What makes your opinion more important than others?
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>posting images of post-modern illustration
>think he knows what 'classic' and 'modern' entails
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>>2617914
Nostalgia.

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Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.
Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make your mom proud.

AVOID asking unrelated questions, there is a question thread for that.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead (also images shouldn't come out accidentally sideways with this method)

#2)
>change camera capture settings...
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I want to be a comic book artist. I'm influenced a lot by French comics and Disney, I work on paper, I'm somewhere around intermediate and I need to learn better rendering in watercolor. My #1 reason to start a course is I'm damn tired of working completely alone and I need a competent person guiding me. I'm plateauing and I find myself drawing less and less because I don't have a project that drives me ATM.

I have looked up a bunch of cheaper online courses and they're either

1) working sight-size with a very academical approach which...
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>>2619020
Thanks, eventually I got the yearly subscription and I'm looking at his stuff on character design. I would have liked more advanced lessons on average but seeing him work made me fix a few things already.
Also he draws animals a lot and I was looking for that as well.
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>>2618839
Ooh, I bet you like the Blacksad series! Superb character and scene drawings, compelling stories...how the hell can two Europeans evoke the character of 1950s America so well?

Can you guys share your opinions on this?
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It's shit
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>>2625056
Looks pretty degenerate for me.

Also, make up your mind if you're going to just outline the shape of the haircut or draw hair by hair.
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>>2625056
Awful. urges study of basics

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Painted this yesterday. Let me know what you all think.
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>>2624547
>iphone users
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this is real art
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Since majority of ic is circle jerk or does some autist shit on the porn thread or some other shitty draw thread, I'll give you some tips as a fellow beginner painter

I gotta say ,thats not really, good , you use too much brown so the trees are quite like if gorlla had a diarrhea on them. I can guess that you tried to make the tree looking natural and not just a green mush, but in the end you used too much brown, or the brush you were working with was too big, or maybe the paint you used was too solved in water or whatever u used, causing too big miles.

The...
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Draw thread, last one dead.

Post your current drawings here for critique. Beginners doing studies do not belong in this thread, neither do questions. Those both have dedicated threads.
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Portrait from life, charcoal and white ctayon on toned paper. 3 hours.

I feel like im making a lot of little mistakes that add up to an ultimately bad drawing. Can anyone help me spot some of the more glaring ones?
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>>2616594
why does this look like its been through a shitty filter?
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>>2616597

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just looking for a bit of crituque.

third attempt, what do you guys think? have i got talent?
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>>2625592
bold and provocative.
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>>2625592

We make our own talent young retard
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>>2625592
nice, epic, I like it.

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People here have said that you can "learn the smart way," and yet they never describe what it entails. I've learned everything I know through repetition and mileage, and most artists who've made it tend to recommend this. What is the "smart" way to study?
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>>2622631
depends on what you want really
i guess step one is knowing what you want out of art
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Be goal oriented and conscious of what and why you're doing it instead of mindlessly drawing a million gestures because Proko said so
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>>2622655
Post your work

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Hey /ic/, I was sketching a new character for a game called unreal tournament 4. Basically, anyone can submit ideas for weapons, maps, and characters.

It's an arena shooter, so it can have some sillier characters. I wanted to make a character with blender that is a sentient AI built from scrap metal.

However, the sketch you see is too cartoony. I wanted to keep the spirit of the character, while reducing his cartoony features. I think the biggest offenders are his head size, neck size, and upper chest area all relative to each other.

Also, his eyes...
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>>2622457
> warosu.org/ic/thread/2538165#p2539822
> jaimetreadwell.com/basic_sketching-for the industrial designer.pdf
> vkDOTcomSLASHdoc4043932_145867203 (50 robots to draw and paint)
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>>2622464
the last one is missing, and I'll read the pdf for sure, and I think it's right that I did too much detail.

I did like the little add-on heart electronic, and I like the rivets that holds his chest together. Perhaps the left shoulder pad is too big as well.
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does the second one look less cartoony?

Whats /ic/ opinion on Fun2draw?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFf_ebUsE0QHD9AMVTD_npQ
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>>2622376
It's shit, next.
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>>2622376
better than 60% of /ic/
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>>2622387
When 60% of /ic/ is garbage like you that shitposts and doesn't even draw, then sure.

How do you guys 'see' what you draw?

As in what kind of mentality do you perceive your subject?

I was talking to an art professor and he told me to draw what I saw and not what I perceived to be there? As in, if I saw a ellipse at 45 degrees, he wanted me to draw the figure as I physically see it and not think "oh, that's a ellipse at 45 degrees, let me use my knowledge of how to draw an ellipse coupled with my vision to draw it."
That seems really fuckey to me.
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>>2625365
Hes right
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>>2625365
Nah its true draw what you see, find what you like in life even the little things like a hand gesture or veins on a hand or foot and put it into your work that to me is important but really important to replicate what you see in life aswell.
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>>2625365
That sounds about right.

>get used to reading art critiques on /ic/
>can't enjoy /c/ anymore

>pic related
>those legs

why do you do this /ic/
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>>2623217
theyre not so bad

one thing i learned from a great teacher, he said don't let yourself become too elitist. He never elaborated, but i always allow myself to ignore some flaws in people's work
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>>2623228
For some reason this comment hit home for me. Especially since /ic/ gets crazy sometimes. Seriously, one of the better pieces of advice on here.
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>>2623228
Good advice

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How accurate should my life drawings be if I'm trying to do illustration/animation work?

I know most animators work from constructionist techniques by breaking down life into 3D forms on a 2D surface. This allows more freedom but rarely comes with millimeter-precise measuring.

On the other hand atelier work is strictly precise but leaves absolutely no room for "inventing" things from imagination. Both have their place in art, but I personally have no interest in ever creating extremely realistic drawings/paintings. But I can't ignore the true...
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For reference here's an extremely detailed figure drawing made by an atelier student.

The goal of this student is to render, measure, and recreate from life as accurately as possible. This is great if the life drawing is the end goal. But how useful is rendering this much detail when I have no personal interest in creating this type of artwork?

I know I need to draw from life to learn the fundamentals. But how much should I be concerned with measuring perfectly & rendering to perfection?
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Looks like someone fell for the "draw from life" meme
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Conversely here's an example of how much detail I'd like to do. This is a real production storyboard from an old Cartoon Network show.

These two panels show a great command of depth, perspective, and line quality. You can make out tiny elements of the houses, the truck, and the water slide.

But there isn't much rendering, and the artwork follows a unique illustration style rather than rigid realism. I understand realism develops a style, but how realistic does one need to get before branching into stylized work? And does pinpoint accuracy affect...
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What's the fountain pen or roller ball with the finest possible line? I'm looking at the Platinum Carbon Desk Pen Extra fine or Super Fine. Also I'd like to spend less than 25 dollars. Fuck off with anything felt tip. I'm too rough with them and even with normal use the felt tip breaks down well before the ink runs out, and the usable angle is too limited for how i draw.
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>>2625222
For that sort of money the Platinum desk pens really are your best bets. The KDP-3000A (or DP-1000AN) is finer than the Carbon pen, probably as fine as a nib will get without tuning. It's also the cheapest gold nib you can find.
I think the Pilot Penmanship XF also comes close, but I haven't tried it myself.
Other that you won't find a true hairline nib without spending considerably more money on a #3776 UEF or Sailor Saibi-Togi.
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>>2625266

yea that' what I thought; I've seen much more expensive pens that are supposedly finer but I don't want to spend that much. By chance do you know the difference between the Platinum Carbon Desk Pen Super Fine and that DP-1000AN one? The super fine is about half the price.
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>>2625268
The Carbon pen has a wider feed channel for better flow with pigment ink. The normal desk pens have slightly finer nibs. Both are still finer than any western EF.


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