>do 'good' work. work that has elements of subtlety, aspires to be technically proficient, displays skillful use of art foundation principles, tries to avoid mainstream elements, tries to bring some tastefulness to usually cliche and overdone subject matters
make about 2k a year working my absolute ass off, sending millions of emails, replying to thousands of job posts, contacting hundreds of people (ad's amongst those)
>do commercial garbage type work and very low effort porn. treat it like a business making very coldly calculated decisions and moves, completely detaching my ego and person from the work and hiding behind an alias. not caring too much about how i treat fans/clients, treating them and the work as very disposable. doing quantity over quality (to an extreme degree)
Make about 900$ a month CONTINOUSLY without working too hard (6 days a week, 9 hours per day. this is not-too-hard by artist standards, not by real-job standards). popularity snowballs rapidly, can increase comission prices regularly, clients incredibly grateful for me taking their comission, incredibly patient with me when i take about 2 months to finish it, never ask for revisions, always reply like 'wow amazing thank you WOW I LOVE IT' even when it's total trash.
What do i have to do in order to keep the fire burning /ic/ ? I'm so freaking close to jumping into commercial garbage as a full time career. It's incredibly depressing to see high aspirations so utterly unrewarded.
i now got a dayjob in which i make around 1300$ working 3 shifts per week. i have the freedom to do what i want with my remaining time. i either make MORE money, and snowball my commercial-garbage business further, or i keep working on/studying for my more upscale/serious/respectable work but by this point that feels like a waste of time.
fuck this is depressing. it's like you want to be the next kurosawa but people throw money at you the moment you start shooting amateur gonzo porn
>>2306677 >fuck this is depressing. it's like you want to be the next kurosawa but people throw money at you the moment you start shooting amateur gonzo porn I know what you mean. Got serious about getting good around 4 years ago, watching Feng and Gnomon tutorials, doing pleb-tier ebin scifi and fantasy. Now this generic commercial stuff makes me incredibly bored and depressed. I haven't even made any money off of it, it just killed my enjoyment of the genre and my enjoyment of painting.... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Also so this isn't an empty post correcting my spelling, have some of Picasso's pottery, I really really like it even though I don't like most of his other work: http://poulwebb.blogspot.ca/2010/05/picasso-pots.html
Online drawing board/paintchat is set up on: http://4chan.drawplanet.net/ Room: planet Feel free to give some tips, help out some beginners, rate etc. Collabs are completely random, start one whenever.
Check out this guy's Patreon intake vis-a-vis his skill level: https://www.patreon.com/markydaysaid?ty=h
That's how much more important marketing is than skill level. You don't actually have to be that great of an artist to make a good living doing it. Conversely, it's totally possible to be really good and still struggle if you don't market yourself well.
Also, you will probably never regard yourself as "good enough." That's a trap a lot of people fall into.
I'm looking for a word document posted here a year or so ago about "learning to draw in a year" or something to that effect, posted by a tripfag I can't remember for the life of me. It started off with telling you to download the "Perspective 1-10" tutorial series, and listed other good resources as it went down. Does anyone still have it? If so, please upload it!
>>2305908 I'm a really great artist, I practiceD. But the skill remains no matter how long you fuck around. I take more time thinking about my ideas than actually creating them. (not gonna post my art because holy shit fuck you)
To add on to what >>2305912 says, I think that a lot of pros don't "practice" the same way beginners do. Like people on /ic/ will do photo studies and copy out anatomy books and watch video lectures on colour and stuff. But once you reach a certain level you've already done those basic exercises for a number of years and know how light and anatomy work and how to paint and observe things. At that point those exercises are not as useful.
Personally I have basically stopped doing studies the last year or... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
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