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Ancient Greek Paintings from Fayum, Egypt.
If they were Greek paintings what were they doing in Egypt, you whitewashing ape?
guess it depends who the portraits are based on, native population or greeks
Damn, his son was so black he got burned out of existence
Is all the roman buttlust explained by them essentially being arabs?
Ancient painting showing dancing from South Italy.
The dressing and the dance looks as if its contemporary traditional. WTF?
It is from 450-400 BC.
The women are Peucetians. The Peucetians were a native Italian tribe from Apulia which was heavily Hellenized.
Proud traditions like lusting for boypussy and marrying two men.
But the Arabs kept a hold of a lot of the mathematical theory and then developed on it.
They also perfected the art of sodomy, when they realized that buttsex was more fun if you made it illiegal.
Macedonian culture is Greek culture.
Theybelieved in Greek gods, spoke Koine Greek the lingua franca, thought of themselves as Greek, etc.
When Alexander burned down Persepolis he is quoted as saying he did it for the revenge of Athens. He was a Greek Hitler of his time
Pic is burial tomb of his family in Greece recently found, with Greek gods murial
Ἀχελῷος, patron deity of the "silver-swirling".
Another one from Paphos.
Bigger sized here:
>Often referred to as the "Mona Lisa of the Galilee". Part of a mosaic floor in Sepphoris.
Stunning tbh. Would marry/10
Paphos has A Lot and really cool mosaics.
Google: Paphos mosaics
No, this is what a southern Italian looks like.
>all this barbarian snownigger butthurt ITT
stay barbarians, lads
Roman mosaic: Odysseus and the Sirens (Bardo National Museum)
Nah, we were apparently seafarers even then so we weren't quite that primitive.
This guy is perfect Roman. I always imagined Romans look like this.
No, to be Arab you have to have a unibrow and look like shit.
I'm Greek, I like to think I have the looks of one of the ancients
Google: Zeugma Museum
There is a fuckton of mosaic and most of them are really really good.
Do nordicists actually believe ancient greeks and romans were blonde and fair skinned like the barbarians of the north?
This is as insane as those black nationalists claiming egyptians were all black.
Arab scholasticism was carried out almost exclusively by the Christian and Jewish underclass.
Only real contribution of the Moslem Arabs was to open the libraries of the Hindu east to the Assyrian Christians, Levantine jews, and Anatolian Greeks.
This is why the decline of eastern scholasticism can be tied specifically to increases in the Jiza and other oppressive measures targeted at Christians and Jews.
>This is as insane as those black nationalists claiming egyptians were all black.
Not really, the difference between northern and southern Europeans is almost nothing compared to the difference between Egyptians and blacks.
Reminder that Nords are actually aliens.
>Arab scholasticism was carried out almost exclusively by the Christian and Jewish underclass.
But this is false historical revisionism.
"Islamic" scholasticism was carried out by Persians to a large extend.
really this is one of the most meaningless pictures that keeps getting reposted. Where the fuck does PISA even come from? Is it some arbitrarily assigned test given to elementary kids like their supposed to give a fuck? makes no sense
Southern Europeans then and now look basically the same. Black to dark blonde hair, very slightly darker skin than more northern Europeans, brown to green eyes, etc.
I have never seen anyone claiming that Southern Europeans then looked like Scandinavians.
This is pretty much what the average Roman looked like.
can either of you explain what the PISA is? because i dont think you know what it is. poland here is just excited cuz his piece of shit country is rated high for once, and argentine bro you seem like a straight up autist.
>The Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) is a worldwide study by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) in member and non-member nations of 15-year-old school pupils' scholastic performance on mathematics, science, and reading. It was first performed in 2000 and then repeated every three years. It is done with a view to improving education policies and outcomes.
google it dumbo
Do mind your fucking tongue.
Depends on what year are you talking about, BUT the "tribes" here had stuff like roads, astonomy, trade with the romans etc. going on. They weren't as developed as the Romans but by no means they were uncivilized and living in mud huts.
Quite a few figures of southern European history have been portrayed and described as fair skinned. But they were almost certainly a minority.
>before the Crusades at least.
what am I reading?
Posting Polans from early medieval ages.
ARKONA NEVER FORGET
Really? Looks white as fuck to me.
Stargard, Brenna and Hobolin are Polan clay!
Did you make any sacrifices to the Gods today borther?
I'm going to go to the top of a local mountain and sacrifice a lamb for glory of Światowid.
>show/movie about ancient greeks/romans/egyptions
>they use germanic/nordic/anglo actors with dark hair
It never fails, even sorta greek looking people like Gerard Butler isn't really greek and doesn't have the stereotypical features.
As a person with all light features (blonde hair, blue eyes, even light eyebrows and pubes, pink nips, go pink in the sun, can chug milk without body breakdown), I can say that from Da Vinci to I dont know fucking who, almost all of the great persons in history DIDNT have light features.
I mean even fucking nazi ultra-nordicists had extremely hard time at their propaganda hq's against 90% of all great peoples having south European features and how almost none of the great contributors were Nordics.
He was blonde, but Macedonians weren't really considered Greek back then.
>but by no means they were uncivilized and living in mud huts.
They weren't living in cities, thus they were un-civil-ized.
Also, they were literally living in mudhuts. Seriously, that's where they were living.
>Allusion of race superiority based on modern era economical dominance
>Mfw i have no face. Fucking snowniggers
I'm guessing that's actually a mistake and they meant 4chan, but damn I got nostalgic for a minute. /new/ on that site was amazing in its prime
>tfw the spam filter still bans you from mentioning the site even though it no longer exists
>Greek biographer Plutarch (c. 45–120 AD) describes Alexander's appearance as:
>1 The outward appearance of Alexander is best represented by the statues of him which Lysippus made, and it was by this artist alone that Alexander himself thought it fit that he should be modelled. 2 For those peculiarities which many of his successors and friends afterwards tried to imitate, namely, the poise of the neck, which was bent slightly to the left, and the melting glance of his eyes, this artist has accurately observed. 3 Apelles, however, in painting him as wielder of the thunder-bolt, did not reproduce his complexion, but made it too dark and swarthy. Whereas he was of a fair colour, as they say, and his fairness passed into ruddiness on his breast particularly, and in his face. 4 Moreover, that a very pleasant odour exhaled from his skin and that there was a fragrance about his mouth and all his flesh, so that his garments were filled with it, this we have read in the Memoirs of Aristoxenus.
>Greek historian Arrian (Lucius Flavius Arrianus 'Xenophon' c. 86–160) described Alexander as:
>[T]he strong, handsome commander with one eye dark as the night and one blue as the sky.
He was quite fair, but a lot of Greeks are.
I 'm pretty sure though that it doesn't mean skandi-tier fair, or even anglo tier-fair. He was probably Northern Greek / Bulgaria -tier fair.
>He was blonde, but Macedonians weren't really considered Greek back then.
No m8, they were considered Greek.
It's just that Demosthenes and a few others' who didn't like Macedon's influence made some propaganda speeches (if you read them you 'll puke) against Philip and Macedons in general
This history-themed "meme" has spread the past 2 decades with Skopia's (F.Y.R.O.*. 's) retarded bullshit.
You'll only hear me say this once, but who the fuck cares in the case of Romans?
They were the most successful and influential Empire of all time and started from just a very small settlement with a few fields around it when others had built large powers already.
"The Conservation of the Roman town of Zeugma 2000-2004"
It actually isn't Roman; it 's Greek and it was found by Seleucos I Nicator, one of the generals of Alexander the Great, in 300 BC.
>The fuck do you know?
From what you said, I 'm fairly convinced that I know quite more than you.
These are not cities.
How is this not a "city"?
It had homes, was fortified, had authorities with the difference that it was fortified.
Plus Ptolemy in his book about geography even writes about "Kalisz" ("Calisia") and describes it as a town.
"Hellenistic" isn't the best criterium when talking about muh race.
>How is this not a "city"?
Cause it is not m8.
>A typical gord was a group of wooden houses, built either in rows or in circles, surrounded by one or more rings of walls made of earth and wood, a palisade and/or moats. Some gords were ring-shaped, with a round, oval or occasionally polygonal fence or wall surrounding a hollow. Others, built on a natural hill or a man-made mound, were cone-shaped. Those with a natural defense on one side, such as a river or lake, were usually horseshoe-shaped.
>Plus Ptolemy in his book about geography even writes about "Kalisz" ("Calisia") and describes it as a town.
Yes. In this book:
He also mentions:
Ascaucalis (Askaukalis) - Bydgoszcz,
Stragona - Zgorzelec,
Rugium - Darłowo,
Scurgum - Szczecinek,
Bunitium - Wolin.
We got a much older culture here then you think mate.
the map in a big resolution.
the Goth cities in Germany were mostly verified as real by German scientists.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I am not doubting that Ptolemy mentioned all these, neither I think that your culture isn't old. I am doubting that Ptolemy descried it as a "Town".
I 'll go check the original text. brb
Haploshits can be used as a rough indicator here
google translate this:
the tombs of local rulers found at that place come from IV and III century before Christ and had up too 100m lenght and were 10m wide.
If tombs in Egypt are a proof of a civilization that those are as well(even tho they're destroyed and older then Egyptian ones)
Lion Hunt, mosaic floor from the House of Dionysos, Pella, Greece. ~325-300 B.C.
Romans looked more less like modern italians,maybe they were a bit swarthier because then we had barbarian invasions
Lot of famous romans, including noble families, were known to have blonde/red hair, blue eyes etc. The names themselves usually pointed out some physical features (flavi, fulvi, caesar etc)
I think modern surnames can't be compared to ancient roman ones.
You: Retarded underage polentone celtic pride
It's not well known because this part of Europe dosn't have yet the "power" to break trough when it comes to historic news. Even Germans were there excavating with the Poles so it's not just us.
>The oldest known icon of Christ Pantocrator, encaustic on panel (Saint Catherine's Monastery). The two different facial expressions on either side may emphasize Christ's two natures as fully God and fully human.
But do we know if they meant something back then?
Anyway, was actually surprised to find out he's a Southerner.
Oh and if you want to pick a swarthy German, you could go with Hummels I guess (even though I believe there has to be something non-native in him)
>It's not well known because this part of Europe dosn't have yet the "power" to break trough when it comes to historic news.
m8, there 's got a be an article in English from a respected source
if there isn't, then it's bs
Biggest hurdle you have when looking for how ancient "Northern" peoples (Celts, Germanics, Slavs...) lived, how their society was etc.. is that they weren't lucky enough to live next to some proto-kikes from which they could copy an alphabet. So all ancient sources are from outsiders and thus mostly heavily biased
>muh bs, only Greece is old hurr durr
here, read all you like
stuff there is up to 5000 b.c.
Constantinoupolis 5th c. AD
At times, anyone who was part of the Roman Empire could become an emperor, and non-whites did.
Septimius Severus was half Libyan/Punic.
The Romans mixed up all their conquered lands, eg the garrisons of Hadrian Wall were arab and african legionnaires. Made sense to send the men far off where they couldn't plot against the conquerers so you see a big multi-cultural mix across the entire Empire.
It's really sad tbh. I'm more then sure there was a quite fine civilization/s in Central Europe but due all the scripts we learned history from being roman or greek there is nearly nothing about it there. And even know when they find let's say a astonomical map of planets on the Pol-Ger border that is dated for Roman times - no one cares. History of those times was already written by the victors and we need to deal with it I guess :/
I am sorry, but this isn't anywhere near this >>38161099 made up bullshit.
>>muh bs, only Greece is old hurr durr
I think you are being passive aggressive here and I wonder why.....
Anyway, let's not fill this thread with this stuff.
This, it's mostly what Ancient Greeks called their neighbours (Illyrians, Slavs, Persians, and whatever) and I doubt they had any contact with Germanic-speaking peoples (who were all up in the far North back then)
There was absolutely nothing "Lybian/Punic" about Severus, his father Publius Septimius Gets was the son of Lucius Septimius Severus (c. 70 – aft. 110) a Roman Eques, who may have been the wealthy equestrian that is highly commemorated by the Flavian dynasty poet Statius. Geta's mother Vitoria, born c. 85, was a daughter of Marcus Vitorius Marcellus (c. 60 – aft. 105), Consul Suffectus in 105, and wife Hosidia, born c. 65 and daughter of Gaius or Gnaeus Hosidius Geta. Geta's paternal grandparents were Marcus Septimius Aper, born c. 35, and wife Octavia. He also had a sister named Septimia Polla, born c. 110
His mother Fulvia Pia (c. 125 – bef. 198), a woman of Roman descent belonging to the gens Fulvia, an Italian patrician family that originated in Tusculum.
All Roman people.
From the same collection.
Greek ass(>>38152413) > Roman ass, tbh
Oh, you're thinking of that sky disk? It's actually about 4000 years old IIRC
But I do believe they were a bit more developed in the South, no question about that (with their year-round summers,and no food scarcity, they simply had more time for other things and the ability to support a higher population density), it's just about the amount... ridiculous to think everyone around here was some naked hunter-gatherer striving the forests and sleeping in caves until the Romans came in 50BC
Question to barbarians:
How does this thread make you feel? :^)
Juventus footballer Giorgio Chiellini is pure 'roman'.
He looks like most of the mosaics.
Ye, It's has stuff from Austria and Carpathia in it.
also Biskupin is 800-650 BC:
So there was civilization in this part of Europe as well.
>they couldn't even invent an alphabet
>...They were a superior civilization, no barbarity whatsoever, all foreign writers (in spite of many being appreciative of the simplicity and directness of barbaric societies) were biased when describing them!
>Invent an alphabet
>Implying you just didn't steal it from the Greeks who stole it from the Phoenicians
Well at least Germanics stole some from you too, don't know about (Continental) Celts though, so little is known about their language
>not a lying tuscanian
If you had to use a footballer you could at least have chosen an actual roman
Protip: in republican Rome's time, people living above the Rubicon were considered gauls (even tho some tribes were actually more of italic than gallic stock).
A native of Mutina (modern Modena) like Vorenus would indeed have been considered of gallic blood back then, in spite of not being an immigrant from Gallia.
>the Greeks who stole it from the Phoenicians
1. The Phoenicians didn't have an Alphabet. It didn't have vowels.
2. Greeks had another (syllabic) writing system before that: Linear B.
3. There is most probably Greek written in Linear A too
>so little is known about their language
Really? I thought it was rather close to the gaelic spoken in Ireland and Scotland (allowing for the 2000 years evolution of course). Shouldn't there be lots of documents from early christian Ireland to use as a reference for how ancient celts spoke?
>>Remapping some consonants that don't exist in Greek like "aleph" to vowels
They didn't have vowels. It was not an alphabet, just like Linear A wasn't.
Greeks invented the alphabet.-
>Also Linear script was first used by some non-IE speaking peoples anyway
We don't know that.
You mean it's a Naples only thing. I've been in vacation to both Sicily and Apulia and while they're not north tier clean (not that it means much, there's a world of difference even between Liguria and Piedomont in cleanliness), there's only trash nearby trashcans.
Insular Celtic is quite well-known, Continental/Gaulish not so much
Sure you could reconstruct from Irish or something, but it would have already drifted centuries if not millennia apart from Continental by that time
>that they weren't lucky enough to live next to some proto-kikes from which they could copy an alphabet.
They had their own alphabet iirc, which is untranslatable because they left no clues.