Why are Americans/Anglos so fragile minded?
>yugo civil war
>blood ran in rivers
>a lot of children died too
>almost EVERYONE fought, people formed militias to defend their towns and villages
>>>ALMOST NO SUICIDES AFTER WAR
No one got any meme diseases like ptsd or what ever. After the war people just returned to their lives. Nobody killed themselves.
My history teacher fought, and he is diagnosed with something, but he never attempted suicide. He just gets extremely quiet and stares blankly sometimes, caught him on breaks a few times doing that. But that is literally it, and my dad fought, my uncle, half of my family really. Nobody became crazy or anything.
>sling missiles from bases
>be mostly on non-combat duty
>>>come home and commit suicide, every xth soldier that returned from his non-combat patrols commit suicide
I dont get it. What the fuck is wrong with them?? Airplanes and aerial shelling did all the killing. Probably none of them have seen combat anyway.
all the massacre pictures are graphic, not for blue board, cant post anything without b&
meanwhile war on desert people is literally sitting in an office
In Yugo civil war, people went and torched entire villages, and everyone found there. And now they sing songs about it, they dont shoot themselves about it.
I noticed this mental softness in western European politics as well. Its not only soldiers commiting suicide, but civilians vote for suicidal policies as well. Check immigration and so on.
>My history teacher fought, and he is diagnosed with something, but he never attempted suicide. He just gets extremely quiet and stares blankly sometimes, caught him on breaks a few times doing that.
This is a typical presentation of post-traumatic stress disorder
>muh meme disorder
Yeah.. and? He is a functional member of society now. He teaches history as an optional class on my uni. He goes and drinks with us students sometimes. He laughs with us on jokes. He has a normal family.
A perfectly normal person with a perfectly normal life.
Also, cyber bullying. You people literally kill yourself over it. I dont even.......
It's because we are isolated from the rest of the world. Canadians are just arctic Americans and no one actually gives a shit about Mexico unless they are on our side of the border. This makes it so the only information about other countries comes from the media. When this happens, people think they understand the rest of the world even though they have never and most likely will never experience it firsthand. Since we don't have to physically deal with these things, it all goes to the mental state. Also many people try to be sensitive to everybody's feelings and they tend to over think things they cannot have any influence over. Coupled with having some sort of mental problem being seen as normal, you get a nation full of fragile, emotional citizens.
tl;dr - We don't actually have to deal with this shit
But you realize that this will eventually end you, right?
Your social policies are too soft. You are drowning in africans (usa) and muslims (w. euros). You are a welfare nanny state that only keeps on multiplying this soft cunt syndrome. In some w.Euro places police cant even carry bullets/guns, meanwhile USA is crawling with those no-gun zones. And so on.
Its as if you think this is good for you. Its borderline delusional. And unhealthy.
And you can justify those actions because your country was attacked.
Their soldiers also have almost no jon opportunities after they leave and they make up a large percentage of the homeless.
Because you were born and raised in a harsh envoitoment ie:communism, secret police, rationed everything
However it is impossible that not a single person killed himself or suffered some mental problem, it probably went unregistered since you know there was a fucking war going on
I never said I'm proud of it. I hate how much society babies these emotionally unstable people
I was talking about the non-military people. Probably because our military personnel grow up in this atmosphere
There are mental institutions in here. And war ended. And suicide statistics arent that hard to figure out.
Yes they can. Their culture and way of life and everything works on oil. Boom, explained. These other people are denying them oil, while not even using it. Even if they are using it, too fucking bad they cant defend it. Its that simple.
Yugo armies went in to displace entire populations and claim entire thing for themselves. Meanwhile you people go in just for some oil. Over here people went in literally to round up and massacre everyone found.
That's because there were countless of smaller massacres everywhere.
4.000.000 casualties of the entire thing, according to Wikipedia
They are discovering mass graves to this day.
Respect, ex-yu. I'm still amazed by the fact you guys went through a lot of the worst humankind has to offer, and you're still standing. You guys have the honor of being the toughest motherfuckers out there in this generation.
All I am saying is, there were rape camps all over Bosnia. Rape camps.
And this other anon is like 'well you have just reasons to go to wars and the west doesnt'.
Well, it's already known that the symptoms of mental illness can vary based on culture - schizophrenia, for example, usually manifests as benign discussions with ancestors and spirits in africa and india, meanwhile in america and the west in general you get paranoid delusions and start believing your pizza is poisoned.
I can't answer why you guys didn't all kill yourselves - maybe because you're more religious, or because you're poorer so a suicide would be more taxing on the people you leave behind monetarily - but cultural differences are probably at work here. I'm sure the vets have PTSD, like your history teacher.
This is just conjecture, but it might have something to do with the fact that the war involved everyone in the region. Nobody was unaffected by it. It was a shared experience by everyone there.
Western soldiers fighting overseas come back home to see that life has gone on without them. Unless you have close friends/family who are in the military, the wars are pretty much abstract things. It has not affected the daily lives of our society in any significant way. This makes the people returning home alienated and alone.
The point being is, people over here shrug ptsd off. They dont kill themselves over such petty reasons.
this guy has a good point. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that vets are completely alone when they come back, meanwhile over there you guys all have stories, you're all touched by it in some way.
Like I said, I'm sure it's something cultural - as long as you agree that your vets still have a mental disorder, even though it doesn't affect them the same way it affects ours, I'll agree with you.
By the way, Neprijatelj was an amazing movie. Just watched it with my grill yesterday.
>serbs in charge of being anything short of overhumans
your ptsd is showing
I guess you don't know that the most common cause of PTSD is car accidents.
Also keep in mind almost all US soldiers come from poor and criminal families and are already more likely to have mental disorders. Whereas everyone in your town might have fought, here mostly its only the dredges of society that are fighting. Your teacher would have already been a functioning member of society if there was no war, our soldiers are the opposite.
I honestly think that the US amry couldn't handle the Russian on classic warfare.
Of course they'd beat them at Air and Sea, but on the ground the american soldier would be properly buttfucked by the Ruskies.
Is PTSD a thing that get diagnosed a lot in the US?
I remember once seeing lads who a craterized a village that a raghead wedding was taking place in. They seemed quite content with their lives.
The media just focuses on a few cases so they can portray veterans as "mentally ill", to get them to take drugs. Government hates veterans because they have combat training, own guns and might actually care about the country
Well not even one of them said that he has ptsd in front of the court and I'm sure they'd use that argument in their defence.
I mean they were kinda accused with war crimes.
Kind of our style really
If you see a group of soldiers but don't know where they're from fire a stray bullet in their direction and see how they react.
If they respond with precise rifle fire they're British.
If they respond with a frenzy of machine gun fire they're German.
If they try running away they're Italian.
If they throw their guns on the ground and surrender they're French.
If nothing happens at first but five minutes later the area you shot the bullet from is bombarded with airstrikes and mortars they're American.
Truly, I am awestruck. Your incredible powers of living in a shithole and not killing yourself are worthy of praise the world over. I'm sure any day now, the Balkans shall be the leading economic and cultural superpower with this terrifying ability.
According to their Federal Bureau of Statistics, yeah.
Outside of call of duty, American army is crying and pissing itself. Check ANY footage that isnt ceremonial. Where they are in actual combat. On the receiving end.
Fuck, American ground forces couldnt even handle Yugo militias. They pulled out as soon as first couple of skirmishes. There were literally no NATO ground troops anywhere in sight during 10 years of war.
Russians would massacre them 9999999%
How common is the insanity defense used there? Here it is extremely uncommon and I don't think PTSD could even be used as a defense.
Then again we don't try our war criminals so I have no idea what defense they would use.
You think one gets some mental problems after making a drone strike on kebabs from in front of a pc?
Assuming your assumptions aren't complete bullshit I'd give my explanation:
America has a very stringent and toxic culture. In a lot of ways we really do think we are in a movie. In other words, the people are all bullshit, all across the country, and they don't even realize it. And then you have the military construct, where most of them are the losers and dropouts of society yet they are supposed to be hailed as heroes at home. Because of these two factors, vets can find themselves isolated. They live for a time in a somewhat 'real' environment of warfare in the sand dunes, killing arabs and kicking the shit with their buddies, then they go back home to be surrounded by fake fucking people, who are afraid to talk to them cuz of "muh military", and I think this just gets to them
It's the same in their police.
The american cop cries and yell like a bitch while he is getting shot.
Meanwhile our cop pic related who was injured just like the american cop, just asked to spare his life, in a normal voice, no cries, no yell, no bitch.
Memes aside, cultural psychology is, honestly, absolutely fascinating.
Various factors, but one I'd like to bring up may be our culture of individualism. Essentially, each and every American sees - or is expected to see - themselves as the "main character". This view shapes our character throughout our lives, and is in a way responsible for how overly-friendly and social Americans seem to be - Europeans' doubts on the sincerity of that friendliness aside. A lot of people's sense of self can be rather fragile because of our culture as a result of the constant plays for social status, crabs in the bucket, tall poppy syndrome, etc. that seems to be endemic among Anglo nations. War is pretty stressful, and some Americans don't handle that very well.
There's also the factor of becoming accustomed to army life and suddenly having to readjust to civilian life. Army life is regimented to the point that all the individual really has to worry about it remembering to breathe and blink at the same time. Civilian life, however, is incredibly hectic. It's like taking a fish in a well and dropping him in the ocean. That coupled with all the noises and sudden movements and stress that reminds you of war and some people are bound to break down.
Also has to do with, as others have mentioned, a war for survival vs shooting goatherders and opium farmers.
May also contrast with the Slavic, or at least Russian, national character. Self-sacrifice looks like a historically huge part of such.
Well they did use it once or twice when they shoot some random directions after getting attacked by mortars or drove into a trap.
I don't think there was even 1 person who went to jail due to killing random raghead civilians.
Just because your country is a tad behind in science doesn't mean your soldiers don't have PTSD, they just don't know about it.
And your suicide rate seems plenty high, so your whole argument is what? Serbians stronk, don't get ptsd, kill selves anyways rawr..?
What about riots? Riots in the USA or west get weeks of footage. Meanwhile that's just another football derby here.
Over here, when people riot, police use AK's, snipers, and a couple of APC's get destroyed.
We didnt have any riots in quite some time but check Ukraine while it was rioting.
wow congrats on being just like Niggers!
that's a great accomplishment really.
Well they don't go berserk or kill themselves and after they come back they got help if needed.
It's not like war is some melodrama bs where you despair over each life you've taken.
>In 2006 in Serbia, 1444 persons committed suicide (19.5 per 100.000 population. Compared to the early 50s of the 20th century, the number of suicides has nearly doubled, but there has been a moderate decrease in the last 15 years. Similar, but somewhat more moderate tendencies are noted in the change of the value of the suicide rates. The lowest suicide rates were recorded during the 1950s, around 12 per 100.000, and the highest in the last decade of the 20th century when the rate reached 20 suicides per 100.000 inhabitants.
>having a suicide rate of 20
can you just shut up Serbia, I like you and all but you're kind of pulling that Slavic "You need to man up drink more defend homeland dont fuck guys thats gay and pisses me off because you are gay" kind of attitude
You see, this is the kind of autism that bugs me on /int/.
>make a statement (murricans suicide and traumatize more because of war than musterace serbs) and expects everyone to accept it as truth (worst part is: the other autists do accept it)
>have no proofs to support it's claims
Yeah, I call this bullshit. First of all, you have to take the proportions, it's obvious that there are more traumatized ex-soldiers in the US than in whole ex-yugo because there are, like, 10 times more people in the US.
Second, you need statistics, not just looking at like 10 or 20 people you know went to war in your country and now live normal lives and assume everyone in the US just kill themselves after they go back home from war, and for some reason I don't think the serbian government has some kind of statistic like that, let alone all the countries of ex-yugo.
Third and last, it's really only a small percentage of people that go to war (and live) that becomes crazy and even less that commits suicide, and it's not because you saw something in the internet or an american movie about (american) people that get crazy or suicide after wars and you've never heard about anyone in your coutnry that everyone in murrica does that and no one in your country does that.
Now I'm not defending murrica, as I don't give a shit for them, but you must understand that before you state something as truth, you must have proofs to support your claims, or you risk being an autistic retard with no connections to reality, and guess what? You just did it. Proofs or gtfo.
because serbians associate therapy with communist re-education
and no one keeps official records of suicides, and your mental health system is barely existant.
no one can tell if a serb committed suicide or died from alcohol poisoning as usual.
anyway fuck off back to turkey you mongol fuck
This though guy s*rb preaching firm hand never fails to amuse me.
I don't understand PTSD either but I am a bit of a sociopath. I have a relative who used to pick up body parts in Iraq for the duration of her military career. We're not in close contact but it sounds like that was her job. I don't think she has PTSD.
Usually I would support my people, but honestly I'm surprised how weak we have become sometimes. The government sent like 100 soldiers to iraq to train them and you would have thought it was the third world war looking at social media.
Let's all hope it's just due to there being a new place for the vocal minority to speak. The silent majority well.. I think you'd be surprised if you really fucked with them.
>the world works on rainbows and happy thoughts
Its actually you being overly sheltered and delusional about the place you live in.
Did you know that Europe cant even produce chocolate? Yeah, Europe had to massacre shit ton of Africans for those cocoa beans.
Did you know that first world country cant work without oil? Yeah, you had to massacre shit ton of people to live as comfortable as you do now.
>massacre people over chocolate and oil
>calls me a psychopath
But I really am, can't really help but be who you are.
Give us a link. I was in an anzac parade in a small rural south island town and couldn't imagine a place further from a threat. They'd have been beaten to death by guys with bagpipes.
Clearly any threat was bullshit anyway since it's over with
Why are Serbs/Yugos so fragile minded?
>daily shitposts on /int/
>blood ran in rivers
>a lot of children died too
>almost EVERYONE shitposts, people formed militias to defend their whiteness
>>>ALMOST NO SPERG OUTS AFTER POSTING
No one spammed meme tough man images or whatever. After shitposting people just returned to their basements. Nobody cracked. My fellow countrymen post, but they're dumb cunts. Nobody became crazy or anything.
>browse /int/ from irrelevant shitholes
>be mostly NEET
>>>hacks into 4chan and go full potato, every xth poster that logs on 4chan has a sperg out.
I dont get it. What the fuck is wrong with them?? They don't even speak English. Probably none of them have seen sunlight anyways.
Because there's a thing called civilization, you might have heard about it. Believe it or not, for some people violence isn't normal. I know it might sound crazy but there are even folks that never had to throw a punch in their entire life. Literally.
Another thing, autism. For what ever reason, USA and the west cant stop getting it. They are probably 90% of all autism in the world.
Its fascinating how much mental diseases you can find there.
>autism cant melt steel syringes
First world has much more murders under its belt then we do.
m8 you are so civilized, you attempted to genocide entire world
entire. fucking. world.
wasnt even that long ago
if being civilized means being non violent, then first world countries are the least civilized ones
>i'm pretending to be tough on internet because this is cool and because I cannot offer enything else
>First world has much more murders under its belt then we do.
the fuck are you even talking about shithead
this is the usual balkan 'i say it it is true' bullshit is it you delusional ottoman cunt
fuck off and leave the white people alone
You know during the 90s we used to have a lot of ex-yu refugees here. I remember a Bosnian guy that was always sitting in the park. He stuttered heavily, ever since his who;le family was massacred in front of him. His whole life revolved around Bob Marley and reggae music. He really loved that stuff, because of its peaceful message. I never saw a guy more poor and fucked up then him.
''you just shrug off ptsd'' you ignorant fool
Long time ago. I'm just saying there are shitholes like the balkan where people grow up in a hostile environment to be damaged sociopaths, and when they come to a country where people actually have lifes they get a false sense of superiority. It's not like germans couldn't be animals too, if you gave them the same upringing, but it's not as shit as it used to be. Saying being tough like that is more like a result of living in a backwards country than anything else.
I'd say, it's because in the areas where violence actually happens people got used to it. You fought and killed, well, everyone did, we're all in it, it reached everyone and there is nothing we can do than go back to our "normal" lives.
In the US, which hadn't seen such universal violence in a very long time, for which it was always "go there and do this and that and never bring it home, because everything here is perfect". Oh and usually people who get to do some abroad violence get smeared with shit when they get back (see: Rambo), so that can take its toll.
But what do I know.
>First world has much more murders under its belt then we do.
They difference is, out culture doesn't glorify war and genocide.
You would cut your neighbours throat just to sing a song about it afterward, so to speak.
yeah nigger i am seeing as many sources as you
check history? what history, serb. you're a marginal culture in a marginal part of europe and you're hated and despised by you neighbours because you're died in the wool scum.
fuck off and die mongol
I'm not the one who made this "serious", buddy, but if you are going to state something seriously than at least have something to back you up, instead of spitting bullshit in people's faces and expect them to accept it just because.
Oh look, a /b/ thread /int version
I don't care about dead people I never knew.
Thats the extant of me giving no shits/fucks about anything you've ever even so much as thought about.
because serbs were never on the receiving end of murder, genocide and war crimes in the yugoslav civil war, how could serbs ever be scarred when they were the murdering savages that dished out genocide? you can really see how pretentious and ignorant the serb OP is
croats did the worse crimes tho
and are also the only ones who attempted a genocide in this region tho
or used agricultural tools to kill people, and the brag about it tho
or have a competition who can kill most prisoners tho
you are the pinnacle of irrelevancy tho
history of "new zealand" is like what, 3 pages thick?
I've been lurking hard on the third shift recently, and there's always someone posting a slightly wordy, but well thought-out and coherent discussion-worthy post, and it gets ignored.
I agree with the notion of Slavs/Russians having a large importance on self-sacrifice for what is determined to be "the greater good". This, in part, shows why we have so many more problems with veterans' mental health.
Naturally, someone growing up in the Balkans or Russia is likely going to have a bit of a "harder" life than the average American. So they'll more than likely be more resilient mentally.
Its better to discuss these things, and maybe even figure out how to solve them than meme on other countries.
I guess meming is pretty ebin though :DDD
you realise german and western culture has changed within 100 years. We've become more commercial and pacified, and thats why we're more developed that your's and others shitholes around the globe that hold onto rigid barbaric beliefs.
>history of "new zealand" is like what, 3 pages thick?
this is a fucking argument is it? no shit nigger before 150 years ago we were all still in britain chilling as members of the greatest empire the world has ever known. 150 years ago your family was orgy fucking your cousins and pulling the fingernails off babies.
tell you what turk after you've finished your internet ration for the day and your neighbour gets to have his turn on the village computer, i'll tell him that you didn't give his donkey a reach around the last time you fucked it and then you can happily go back to murdering eachs others inbred fucking children, which i know is the favourite passtime of your bastard culture.
no need to thank me cunt.
I was at a party where this Bosnian Muslim and Serbian Orthodox were having a conversation about the 90's. I sat close waiting by the impending shitstorm to occur but rather than beating each other to death they came to the cringeworthy compromise of basically:
FUCK THE U.S BRO
jesus christ you fascist peasants have no real world knowledge
>Fuck, American ground forces couldnt even handle Yugo militias. They pulled out as soon as first couple of skirmishes. There were literally no NATO ground troops anywhere in sight during 10 years of war.
americans are literally so weak that they just bomb everything instead of dealing with it on the ground and then believe they are great fighters
>he doesn't know that steel is stronger than flesh
You can be the best soldier in the world and it won't mean shit if you don't have a weapon to back it up.
Such is life in a peacekeeping mission. It's like being sent to somalia to guard supply convoys, having mortars dropped on your base during the night and never getting the chance to find that man, shoot him or grenade him and stab every part of him which is still wiggling
Serbs are just turk rape babies.
How is it possible for an Australian to not shit post for once, but in fact post the ultimate truth about civilization and cultural hegemony? Could it be that beneath the thick layer of trolling there lies a massive amount of wisdom and compassion? Cunt.
It's called empathy and all animals lack it.
I guess there's some truth to the claim that you don't suffer PTSD when you think what you're doing is right, for whatever reason. Might it be lack of thought, or not being able to feel remorse because you dehumanized your enemies. I know a few retards who probably wouldn't get PTSD because they don't know the implications of what they are doing. They don't reflect about it, so there can't arise any doubts.
Also people who grow up under stress develop it later and possibly never gain the amount of empathy they would have had had they not been under stress. Same goes for logic and reason. Human development up until 25 is very crucial in gaining these adult traits, they need to be practised else they never reach potential.
how can srbe feel PTSD if they are all na vrbe?
Life experience can teach you empathy as well, the loss of close ones or being a close witness to it makes you think about life and have the skill of imagining what the harmed person might felt.
If one is a animal or a sheltered by luck or parents fag then the person won't have empathy because he didn't have any means to develop it being a self entitled cunt throughout his short life.
That's why nazis undressed prisoners, made them more animal like, dirty, without clothes, cold,and hungry. They wanted to kill the empathy in people that did the killing, it was a form of sheltering their minds from realizing what monstrous things they're doing.
Pic related is a perfect example. A female murderer from the Polish chan who was a sheltered bitch, didn't develop empathy and felt no remorse while killing and after it.
>New Zealand GDP
>Serbia and Croatia COMBINED GDP
Lol you're literally third world. Fucking sheep shagging farmers make more than you by a fucking huge degree.
im prety sure we would have a higher GDP if we would populate a heaven on earth island that isnt on balkan and through all history bordering savages like ottomans, serbs, commies etc
Don't if being sheltered is the problem. I had religious kids in my class who couldn't even watch mild horror movies without having a traumatic experience. And other kids who were like the opposite of sheltered were just degenerated little fucks who tried to up each other with their edgy bullshit. Like in that movie Kids. They were just idiots imho. Maybe you could consider them sheltered too, in the sense that they were intellectually isolated, but it's complicated.
Depends. Part of it is the culture I think, though I kinda learned the world was a pretty sick place when I stumbled upon goregrish at a young age. Had my depression phase, grew out of it. Nowadays I acknowledge the world is a shitty place at times, but I don't let it consume me and I overpower it with the need to go and see the world as it is. Which is why I love travel. As for ptsd, I couldn't comment on that since I'm not a soldier. I guess its a mix of
>insurgency-style war where paranoia is common
>loss of close camaraderie when you become a civilian again
>Our leadership fucking up the war so that the end result sucks
>Actually seeing shit like the end result of an IED
It's on the low end but since they have a really low population they're able to maintain a very high HDI.
Alas you instead populate a filthy little shit smear on the side of the Mediterranean.
Oh wait Croatia is actually beautiful.
Typical third worlder always making excuses. The Israelis are in an even worse position yet they have a GDP of $305. 707 billion.
See above my little favelado.
Serbia pop 7 million croatia pop 4 million.
Don't underestimate farmers here.. people like that have invented refrigerated shipping, built flying machines, the electric fence.. they are not poor red necks all over asia and closer to home people would starve without them
>Drowning in Africans
Who keep themselves mostly to the inner cities. Dealing with it is probably going to be more interesting as the years go by. Also
>Not drowning in Mexicans
That's what I'm more worried about
>Nanny welfare state
That would be Britain, we ain't got shit on them. Though I do acknowledge that too many people mooch off of it.
Can you give some examples?
Actually that vid gets shown at most cop academies these days as how NOT to handle a situation. Also the guy was cited for being too overbearing with people in earlier citations, so he was going too soft when he ran into that guy.
>Typical third worlder always making excuses. The Israelis are in an even worse position yet they have a GDP of $305. 707 billion.
And how much of aid from you?
And what does it help that "croatia is beatiful". If ever 20 years it gets razes by serbs/turks/germans/french it doesn't help much. We're getting on our feet slowly now, but guess what, fat amerishits are trying to provoke the russians to raise us again.
>your friend's mom is a mindless slut
well there's that also, i won't deny it
but i can't even talk with him like i could before, he's just, i don't know, weird
i can't even describe it
>And how much of aid from you?
None. Third worlders don't understand what GDP means lel.
>And what does it help that "croatia is beatiful". If ever 20 years it gets razes by serbs/turks/germans/french it doesn't help much. We're getting on our feet slowly now, but guess what, fat amerishits are trying to provoke the russians to raise us again.
Uhh here's one. Try not losing.
What do you mean by that? America's a huge country and we have many different kinds of people. We're not some singular entity. I don't get it when people show me an offensive caricature of Barack Obama and expect me to be offended. Here's a tip, a lot of us don't fucking like him. When they say "majority" vote, that majority is only by a few percent. Even the biggest landslide political victories in this country usually didn't involve too big of a majority.
you are retarded, but i can't blame you since you dont understand how fighting wars on your own soil works. when war happens on your soil you can not stop destruction of the infrastructure and the industry, unlike america who fight their wars across all over the world but none on own soil. i don't expect you to understand but i expect you to be just a bit more reasonable.
>Try not losing
Yea when an empire that spans three continents and has more soldiers than we have people we are sure to win. You lost to rice farmers in vietnam, so I guess you'll be capable of understaind how somebody can lose to a trained military force.
>None. Third worlders don't understand what GDP means lel
>be a cuck that sends millions to another country while being in debt
>praise how that country magically is better than another one
Pls don't you have to take your wife to be inseminated by a black buck or something?
>you are retarded, but i can't blame you since you dont understand how fighting wars on your own soil works. when war happens on your soil you can not stop destruction of the infrastructure and the industry, unlike america who fight their wars across all over the world but none on own soil. i don't expect you to understand but i expect you to be just a bit more reasonable.
Except there have been multiple wars on American soil and we've won them all. In fact we won one of them by destroying our own infrastructure and industry. Try thinking outside of the bun.
Yea when an empire that spans three continents and has more soldiers than we have people we are sure to win. You lost to rice farmers in vietnam, so I guess you'll be capable of understaind how somebody can lose to a trained military force.
My ancestors defeated the British, fool.
>Pls don't you have to take your wife to be inseminated by a black buck or something?
>third worlders don't understand the value of allies
No wonder you keep losing wars haha.
Mate wiki doesn't say 4,000,000 dead. It says 4 million displaced, that means left homless/ had to leave their home. It's 140,000 dead over the 10 years. still a lot but far shy of your 4 million.
>My ancestors defeated the British, fool.
with French money peddled by a Polish Jew banker while the Brits were weakened after a war with both French AND Indians for which colonists never paid despite their safety being protected
that's just the saddest independence since Canada
As he said.
Plus you were a cuck enough to send us moni and shit in the last war. Thanks for that, expect a stab in the back for it sooner or later.
I know. The current system is pretty fucked up, and to change it would be very difficult. Throw in shit like Gerrymandering and the constant flip-flopping by politicians and it's a nightmare.
last war fought in american soil was the fuckin mexican war 200 years ago and the scale of that war is not even comparable to a fucking single battle in yugo wars
please tell me you are trolling
The turks were raiping trought our land. We'd be cannon fodder anyway, only that in the end we would turn into what bosnia is now, austria prevented it.
And when it commes to ww1 litteraly every soldier was cannon fodder, austrian, croatian or whatever.
weight of chains is biased 'documentary', its director is serb born in 1988, you really think someone that was a kid watching his country burn will make an unbiased documentary about it?
Didn't your civil war mostly affect the south when it came to destruction, and wasn't the south filled with cotton farms and farms in general.
Yea it also happened 150 years ago. After that we fought another 10 wars on our soil, and we started only one of them. And I'm not sure that 8x times more people died in the american civil war, also take the general population into account. Loosing million people on a 300 million country is not the same as loosing half a million on a 4 million country.
yugoslavia was sitting on 2 chairs the entire cold war, surviving artificially by taking massive loans that coudln't be paid back, there was a long economic crisis in yugoslavia that was major factor of eventual break up, the other being serb hegemony and wanting to dominate yugoslavia
Slovenia broke off because we're racist cunts who didn't want to be in the same country with those čefurji. So Janez Janša barehandedly killed 70000000000 Serbs and led us to victory. Or at least that's how they teach us in school.
>Cotton farms and farms in general
Well there was that time when Sherman burned his way through Georgia and South Carolina while uprooting railroads and razing cities to the ground. Also some battles did take place in the North, though you are correct in that most took place in the south. There were also a few sieges, see Petersburg and Vicksburg.
>>>ALMOST NO SUICIDES AFTER WAR
>No one got any meme diseases like ptsd or what ever
a 5 second google search proofed your statement to be wrong, suicides spiked during the war and are significantly higher than before the war. and several articles and studies about ptsd and veteran health in serbia.
>You are drowning in africans
Their population percentage is decreasing fuckwit, stop getting sucked in my Internet hysteria.
1st world countries > Balkans, don't kid yourself mate.
the point was you claimed the mexican-american war was the last one on american soil which is wrong. Actually it's about 750,000 battle deaths in the american civil war. That means soldiers only. Less then a million died in the yugo wars, in fact about 140,000 died including civilians. Still a horrible war none the less. Also at the time america only had about 30 million not 300 million.
The war practically annihilated the South's infrastructure, most of its cities, and displaced thousands. Many people were not able to harvest the crop the next year. The North was alright yes, but a large part of the economy went to trying to rebuild the South. But Reconstruction is another story.
OP is long gone, other Serb here.
But still isnt it strange that Americans enjoy 1st world standards and commit suicide, and Serbs had decades of war and economic sanctions and stuff and didnt commit as much suicides.
Also, did you look up PTSD? I dont this as much people here have PTSD, I would heard it on the news or somewhere if they did, never looked it up.
>come home and commit suicide
This is some disgusting disinformation. Ex-soldiers are doing fine in the US.
Pic related :D
not only Anglos. happens in the German army too. Soldiers hear a shot and have to visit a psychologist. But like many here said. Its because they lost friends and comrades in a war they knew was pointless.
and then you have marines and their stupid training that combined with combat drugs fucks them over. i can understand if these guys snap.
The word only was used to convey the titanic difference between 300 million and 30 million. Not to claim 30 million is a small amount of people.
But nice bait and shit post, made me reply
I'm not the same guy
>Less then a million died in the yugo wars, in fact about 140,000 died including civilians
I believe that slightly more died only in Bosnia
>american population was smaller
Still larger than the yugo one, still proportionally roughly the same ammount of people. Plust it was different losing people 200 years ago than it is now. Now it's a catastrophy to lose 300 soldiers in a battle, just few decades back it was a skirmish.
They had the north to rebuild, we had no one. And it was like that after every war that happened here.
>Reconstruction did not go very well, that's the best I can sum it up
Seems reconstructed to me.
You have a lot of free land, you had immigrants a lot of resources, even the dead could be replaced by new people comming in. It's a whole lot different situation.
Yea yea, I don't believe any of bullshit I hear about blacks and shitskins in general here.
I just need to see that /pol/ has the average IQ of 60 to understand not to believe the meme.
I knew Greeks were lazy, but this is a half assed laziness of bait on a new level.
1/10 made me reply
ex-yugos power ranking lists go as following:
the best and relatively successful tier: zlovenia
irrelevant slave for centuries on top of a shithole and probably not even white anymore tier: serbia, montenegro and croatia
same as above on top of being a cuck and islamized tier: bosnia
jesus fucking christ shut it down tier: kosovo
>Yea yea, I don't believe any of bullshit I hear about blacks and shitskins in general here.
Do you not know what a slave is? You think they were educated in any way, shape or form? They were trained to do slave work. That's it. Take your /pol/ boogieman bullshit somewhere else.
>Only happens to soft people. Third worlders of course are hardly gonna get it.
I've heard that basically everyone in the Middle-east, at leas the nations that have suffered war, have PTSD. And you have to figure out everyone's triggers and avoid them.
I don't beleive that either of those are bad. First gen third gen, blacks, they are all people to me, I don't hate any of them. You do, he does, I'm just stating a fact that he doesn't like, they are being outnumbered.
Yea decades, not centuries.
Listen my main point is that it happened a long time ago, if the last war that happened here was the one during the spring of nations in 1848, I'd admit we're worse than you. But much more of them happened in the meantime, that's the point, no matter how bad it was, it was a long time ago.
I know of three Croatian people and a Serbian person living near me that were there during the war time.
Two of the Croatians have PTSD and will wake in the middle of the night screaming in Croatian, both are deathly afraid of laser pointers. The third doesn't seem to have any mental issues what so ever.
As for the serb, he shits himself whenever he hears a loud bang or even sometimes the sound of aeroplanes flying overhead scares him. He is also afraid of lasers.
Actually you can behead yourself, only takes a piece of rope. If you tie a noose around your neck and jump from a high place, the force of the rope pull will not only break your neck, but also behead you.
The more you know, right?
True, however there is still some tension over the war. Go down south and you will see plenty of Confederate flags, and bringing up Sherman or Lincoln down there is a bad idea. I will concede that it's not as bad due to the time that has passed, but it was some intense shit for us then.
you know that joke...
There was a running race between ex-yugo representatives. What happened?
The Slovene took a shortcut, the Croat and the Serb got into a fight, the Bosnian got lost, the Montenegrin went to sleep after 10 meters. What about the Macedonian? Everybody forgot to tell him about the race.
>I would heard it on the news
media has an agreement to not report suicides because reporting about suicides increases the suicide rate.
also, no offense, but serbia is a very nationalist country, i think you wouldnt admit your country`s "weaknesses" like ptsd publicly.
also a lot of serbs fled your country. stories about traumatized serb immigrants are not uncommon in austria.
>Refuses to pay denbts
>Brings up past facts from 2 generations ago
>"Fucking soulless Austrians"
Slavs have no souls and are subhuman.
The grill that was mad at me in the comments was quite qt tbh m8.
Pic very related since it's the situation.
serbia, like all other yugoslav countries, has a higher suicide rate than the usa.
also, while suicide rates are slowly decreasing in most of europe they are still rising in serbia.
>I don't beleive that either of those are bad. First gen third gen, blacks, they are all people to me
I never said they were bad either, I'm just stating the facts
>I'm just stating a fact that he doesn't like, they are being outnumbered
And I'm pointing out that you are wrong, and need to work on your reading comprehension so you can get your facts straight and not misread people's posts.
>be american sniper fighting sandniggers
>survive several near-death situations
>come back to the USA and become a national hero and celebrity
>start helping fellow soldiers with PTSD
>By a fellow Navy Seal
It was a Marine
Yeah but people lap the shit up and all this "American Hero" shit about him is out of control.
I'm also pissed that he gets a movie, but Carlos Hathcock didn't.
>think you know better than mental health professionals
>hey why don't I take those traumatized veterans shooting?
>looks like it's going well, maybe I'm on to something
>get shot by a veteran at a shooting range
Damn, that sounds really stupid in greentext. Did he seriously do that? I dont know what could be worse, maybe to go hunting with them.
Its always the unsung hero, who was the real hero.
pls you are same as us, you just don't want to accept it, you are even worse than us.
The true balkan spirit shows in you when Lidija Bacic starts singing, or when you come here, we've gotten in a fight with some drunk slovenians, god bless the riot police which shown up and started beating the slovs without even asking who started the fight.
Low class is the same everywhere tho.
Ton of Slovenians come down here to celebrate new year, get alcohol poisoning, pick a fight, damage the property and local, gets arrested, and then go home.
Only difference is, I dont have all Slovenians because of it on Taiwanese origami crafting internet tutorial sites.
>I dont have all Slovenians
I suppose you've meant hate. Well I don't hate Serbs too, i'm half Serb for god's sake, I just hate those who act like savages. And the OP looks like one of them, I'm glad he is not living here.
One of the worst countries on this planet telling one of the best countries what to do...
The sad thing is how so many of you actually agree with fucking Serbia, hating your own country because some 3. World fucker tells you to do so.
>War is awesome guys XDDD
No surprise that you think so, after all that is the only thing your country has every contributed to mankind.
It's nice when IRL you just call a german for what he is when it comes to a discussion about war and genocide.
A nazi. Go away nazi, you contributed to savagery more than any of us trough holocaust and hunger plans.
I think you misunderstood OP. War is what made 1st world countries, 1st world countries after all. From shampoo to pc, you have to take raw materials by force, and that's what first world does. Maybe not directly, but the richest corporations in the west heavily exploit the locals, and often employ private security on them.
Anyway, I also think that the west is turning against stuff that made it so great in the first place. Immigration for example, is useless. By immigration, I mean unregulated, mass immigration, not immigration of highly skilled and highly educated workers.
Welfare too, it only produces economic waste. Its not fair for some people to work, and for others not to, and both to have same or similar pay.
I know some people would think that its just an economic miracle they can go into a super store and buy a telephone or a chocolate bar for a 10$, but that's not how it actually works.
You see, for these products to be available for you that cheap, some African villager or some Chinese or Indian factory worker had to work in the most cruel circumstances. Its how you get your stuff.
Western corporations also use violence and abuse workers. And you do it over cheaper consumer electronics and foods.
Meanwhile we get shit for using violence in political matters. Which west does too. On top of using a threat of violence as well.
>Immigration for example, is useless
Funny considering that you guys migrate here in large numbers. Maybe you could all go back to your country as a start and take your crime with you?
> Its not fair for some people to work, and for others not to, and both to have same or similar pay
That is not what welfare is for, might want to spend less time on /pol/ if you think that this is a real argument.
We are rich and powerful, and yes, we have a lot of issues that we have to address, but your country is a horrible place to live in, known only for violence and being Russia's little dog. Despite all our SJW problems we are still superior to you in every way.
I don´t even want to be an arrogant asshole, but every Serb I met was a narcissistic, ultra-nationalistic (despite living in Germany) asshole.
>but i can't even talk with him like i could before, he's just, i don't know, weird
What are you talking about, according to Serbian scientists PTSD doesn't exist, it's just people being pussies.
Yes, Croatia. There is this dark part in our history, but unlike some other countries we actually did develop and learnt.
Weird how you support Serbia who is arguing pro-war and justifying war crimes and at the same time you try to silence me by telling me repeatedly about my countries war crimes.
Don´t worry, we´ll not forget the 6 gazillion.
OP is an idiot,people not getting treated is not same as not having traumas from war also there is good amount of cases where veteran kill themselves I even remember one case where he couldn't handle knowing about war crimes he saw but most do it because they are disappointed with what country is today and how politics fuck them and thats not what they fought for,also listen to this short cut about this subject you will understand it better,americans are probably just more advance on the topic
I did the one where you said "far man you're dumb..." yes. because that alone doesn't make me believe that your argument has no sway. Put it this way "dikhead" if i was to say of 300 million only 30 million survived the word "only" would be used correctly to you, right? In the example listed above and the statement i made in a previous post the word "only" is used to show the giant difference between 300 million and 30 million. But somehow you have confused this. Believing that i am now comparing Americas' population in 1861 to the population of Australia today. Perhaps you should have been more attentive in your time at school.