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I am in the market for my first rifle. I know that this makes me a no-funs outsider to this board, but I digress. I have been lurking for some time, doing lots of research and trying to figure out what I should get.

My use of this firearm will be:
Range time
SHTF
Possibly deer hunting (I would like to learn to be able to hunt for survival if necessary)

Now, here is where things get difficult- I am on a budget, and would like to eventually get another rifle of the same platform for my girlfriend who lives with me in case things really hit the fan.

To further complicate matters, I live in California, so my options are very limited. Could you shed some light on these three options given these parameters?

Century WASR-10
PROS:
Low maintenance, easy to field strip
7.62x39 good for deer (?)
CONS:
Not as accurate
Would need bullet button

S&W M&P 15:
PROS:
Lots of extra parts, could slowly buy upgrade parts and eventually have two 'frankenstein' type builds available for GF and I
Very accurate

CONS:
Smaller caliber not suitable for deer

Ruger Mini 30
PROS:
7.62 could work for deer (again, not sure, read mixed things)
Featureless so doesn't need bullet button

CONS:
bad reputation (light strikes, accuracy diminishes due to barrel heating up)
bad accuracy (6-8 MOA out of the box?)
Seemingly overpriced for what it is

Any help here? Any way to mitigate the cons? I am leaning towards Ruger

Thanks in advance
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Get a Mosin
PROS:
- Low maintenance, easy to field strip
- 7.62×54 good for elephant
- Very accurate, and if you somehow miss then you will kill it thanks to the shockwave anyway
- No need for extra parts, just snipe like Simo Häyhä, but if you need you can put a scope on it and be Zaytsev... or cut it in half and go partizani inawoods
- What is this bullet button thing you speak of comrade
- For the price of any of those you could buy like 10 Mosins and a bucket of ammo
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Just get a fuckin Mosin. Then an SKS, a TT-33, REM 870, then a Ruger 10/22
You just covered every need for a firearm for under $2 000

Fuck ARs they're just not as practical for the price
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>>31060802
get a VZ-58, bullet-button it, and reload it with CLIPS.

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Is there any company that makes these? I'm trying to build a super accurate 18 inch AR so I need the absolute best materials. Is there a anyone that makes differentially hardened barrels too? Like hard on the inside and soft on the outside to make it shoot straighter?

I've sourced and bought most of the stuff I need for the gun, the barrel is the major holdup, I can't find any in the right material or caliber!
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>>31060775
It would be useless. Just get a good 4150 CMV chrome lined barrel.
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Just get an fn barrel
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>>31060775
douglas ss barrels

You dont want a "hard inside and soft outside" for a HUGE number of reasons

You want a rigid barrel

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It's Sunday afternoon, you have exactly 3 seconds to explain why you're not fencing.
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>>31060755
no sword, nigga
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>>31060755
>implying I care about sword fighting
>implying that swords have any use today
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>>31060755
That's not fencing.
I'm working.
I'd rather be at the range.

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>ITT: Does /k/ make anime cool?

Ive noticed from some threads that anime is a big/biggish part of /k/, from custom grips to ammo cans styled with anime girls. Then we have Ex-military anons who shoot at ranges in anime styled shirts and blatantly expose their power levels. Do we make anime cool?
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>>31060690
Yeah. It varies on the exposure, sadly, bot much will come out because the market is focused on hikkikomoris and otakus in nipland. Gotta fund your own shit
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lrl5Kj79u4

>http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wskhs2YMZJk
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No, anime is juvenile gay shit and people who expose their powerlevels are cringey and embarassing. Whether being a cringey faggot bothers you is entirely up to you, but the fact remains that anime is not cool.
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>>31060726
But anime is cool. Just not to you.

It's just another form of TV. TV is ultra popular around the world, but people like to delude themselves that because the TV they're watching isn't cartoons that suddenly makes them mature and adult-like for watching it. Kids watch shows like game of thrones and sneakily watch porn all the time, but doesn't make them any more mature does it?

It's the same delusion they use to sell you cigarettes and beer; you'll be more of an adult if...
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Yes?

No?
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>>31060589
Great way to kill the value of a rifle when you want to sell it though.

> Buy a Mosin for 200,
> Spend 600 on doing it up
> Try to sell it on
> 300 is all i can do bro
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>>31060589
If it's something crappy like an Ishapore in your pic, or some (insert random country) Mauser, or some mismatched serial rifle with deep cosmetic damage, go to town! If it's something with inherent value, like a real Lee-Enfield or K98 with matching serials, don't you fucking dare desecrate it.
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>>31060677
>>31060648

MilSurp Replica =/= actual MilSurp

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Let's have one of these threads.
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>>31060587
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>>31060587
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Cascadia/PNW best state general
Hey guys I'm the anon from the other day who wanted advice on where I can go innawoods hiking/shooting here in western Washington. Well shortly after making that thread I broke my fucking hip..

I never did get any advice other than the sultan pit on where to hike and do some shooting so does anyone know where I can go innawoods once I heal up?

Thanks /k/

Also, any info on any upcoming meets?
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>>31060571
yeah im bringing the brownies there extra creamy
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>>31060833
Yummy
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>>31060571
Damn. How did you break your hip?

>>31061310
Is the Olympics that great of a place for hiking? I heard it's quite inaccessible due to having few routes through it. I've only been there once as a kid though so i don't really know much about the place.

This is the pepper spray thread.

Post your rare sprays, your experiences using spray, or being sprayed.
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>Boss buys house in mountains
>decided he needed bear spray for Da Bears
>package arrives at office, walk it back to bossman...eyes go wide
>goes into his office shuts door, walking back to front of building
>moments later hear tiny woman scream for dear life
>Boss manages to stumble through door flat onto face
>realize what the dumb fuck did,grab 5 gallon...
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>>31060691

>tfw numerous people at my lgs have discharged pepper spray after being handed a can and handling it from behind the counter

People don't treat that shit with much respect.
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>>31060801
Funny story about that
>be broad in my college
>go to frat party
>bring anti rape pepper spray
>see guy i dont like
>someone eggs me on to spray him
>empty a whole can on this dude
>clear out entire frat

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Talk me in/out of buying an MPX. Looking for a good 9mm to "brace"
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>>31060395
It doesn't really have an advantage over an SBR. I would get an AR pistol instead.
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>>31060468
>asks specifically for a 9mm to brace
>recommends something else entirely, prone to overpenetration

top tier m8
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>>31060395
Because you can get a gen 2 vector in 9mm for the same price

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my sister is living with a guy from poland. i only met once and never talked to. how will that affect my chances o getting approved?
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for what, TS?
probably not much, just be straight about it
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You won't be approved if you have any connection to Polackenlümmel
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If she doesn't have a documented relationship with him, not much.

If they're married, her name is on the lease with his, or is on any other sort of paperwork, it'll come up in a TS. For a normal clearance (everyone in the military gets a secret) it won't effect it, even if it's documented.

Also, ask your recruiter you stupid semen

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How realistic is CMANO?
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>>31060072
Rubbish in, rubbish out.
The included databases have a lot of flaws.
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>>31060102
such as?
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According to /k/...


Realistic when it is the US who is winning.

Unrealistic when it is the Chinese who are winning.

Pic related; Standing Scenario

We need to address the elephant in the room. Guns will never become quieter until the piercing sounds emitted by extractor and hammer are eliminated.

What can we do to achieve this?
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>>31059952
Make all fire arms able to fired and loaded via bolt action.
A suppressed bolt action is the quietest you can get IMHO.
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>>31059952
Composites.
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>>31059952
Duh. Suppressors on the hammer and extractors.

Fuckin /k/ is so dumb sometimes...

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Things that make you go hmmm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kizlyar-Pervomayskoye_hostage_crisis

>Over the next three days Russian special-forces detachments from a number of services, numbering about 500 and supported by tanks, armored vehicles and attack helicopters, repeatedly tried to penetrate the village but they were beaten back with heavy losses, including at least 12 killed
>Among Russian troops deployed to the village was an FSB agent from Nalchik, Alexander Litvinenko, whose ad-hoc squad came under friendly...
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>>31059921
Russian troops get shit training for the most part. American militias could have done better than that.
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>>31059921
don't fuck with muslims

lol
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>>31059972
Goatfucking pedophile worshipper detected.

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Who needs anything else?
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>>31059884
Is the Mk 23 good? I've heard some good things about accuracy & recoil but some bad things about size & weight.
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>>31059884
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vOu5ZGfgtVk
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>>31059895
I've let friends shoot it and they are surprised by the weight in a good way. They say it's much lighter than it looks. It's by far my most accurate handgun. The actual grip isnt any larger than a USP.

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What gun would you recommend I purchase for my wife?

I'm purchasing a house in the country with 10 acres. I'm more concerned with her defending herself against a stranger on our property than a wild animal while I'm away at work.

I'm also curious what would be a good starter gun for our 8-year-old daughter when she gets a little older. She has experience with a BB Air Rifle and a slingshot (a real one, not a toy), surprisingly, she does well with both.

Thank you!
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Sounds spooky op
Just get her a gayR-15 with a red dot and be done with it.
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>>31059803

How good is your wife with a rifle or pistol? What experience does she have? Does she handle well under pressure?

For your daughter, I say a .22 cricket or a CZ 452 youth.
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>>31059803
Does the make of the gun matter?

Is she willing to fight?
Is she willing to learn proper weapon manipulations ?

Are you just looking for reasons to buy more guns?

Also, a 22 would be fine for your daughter.

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Me and 2 friends are enlisting in the army in three months, and I thought we were all agreeing to be infantry. Then friend number 3 decided he wanted to be a fucking MP, of all things. So,

>Help my friend decide not to be a pogue fuck.
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>>31059793
Why would anyone ever want to be an MP?
>I want to join the army but I hate soldiers
>get offered MP
>perfect
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>>31059793
does he want to have his guts hated by literally everyone and be a huge buzzkill and fill out paperwork every day? All day?

If his intention is to become a police officer after all this then military experience will be just as good as having been an MP.

Seriously don't do it, everyone fucking hates you and you are the butt of every joke.
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>>31059793
I assume you are probably around the same age as me. I see these threads all the time and my response is the same. Don't join the military. Trust me. You will hate it. The only time I would recommend it is if you want to make a career out of SOF or something. My brother enlisted with an Option 40 and some issues came up with his fiancé and he ended up not going to RASP. He is 82nd Airborne right now and can't stand it. The majority of your time spent in the military will not be shooting guns and doing...
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTkOgWx_bTc
hey /k/, is this gun kata?
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this is some stupid shit
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>>31059742
how so?
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>>31059720
In only watched the first minute or so, but there's solid shooting positions in between all the backfliping. If there was a bearded type A guy with forearm tats spouting buzzwords and less combat rolls this would look a lot like something you'd see in 'murica.

I assume it gets even sillier from there, but you've got to keep in mind that Ruskies like to show off like this; it''s just how they do demonstrations. I'm just surprised no one's on fire or picking up a table with their teeth.

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What can we do to make destroyers more relevant in the modern world? Oh, wait: They already are.

> Battleshipfags BTFO
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>>31059635

If a destroyer fought another destroyer, what weapons would it use? Can tomahawks be used against other ships?
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>>31059653

Harpoons, Exocets, RBS-15, NSM...whatever anti-ship missiles the nation owning the destroyer has put on it.
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>>31059653
All the anti-ship Tomahawks are out of service, but apparently the USN is planning to modify some of the ones they're building over the next 5 years to have anti-ship capability.

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FUCKING RESTART THE FB-22 PROGRAM NOW AMERIFUCKS
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Fuck you bring back the f4 phantom
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>>31059546
I too enjoyed ace combat
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>MFW Americucks neuter the F/A-22 and replace the attacker aspect with the F-35

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Can anyone help me with what each of these guns are, from left to right? I know next to nothing about WW1 weaponry or if these are even period accurate given how retarded the rest of this game is.
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>>31059454
They'really all gewehr 98s, except for the mp18
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Why are there dindus?
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>>31059487
>Not sure if underageb& or just racist
The German army circa WW1 was nearly 60% African American. Lrn2history

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Discuss.
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>>31059453
discuss what? Shrapnel hurts yo
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>>31059453
No.
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Now you get why the Minié ball was a cunt.

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>Mig and Su families have it
>Rafale Have it
>Typhoon Have it

Even UAE requested a special version of F-16 for them with IRST integrated
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F-35 has it.
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>>31059440

Because they're out of date, hence why they're being phased out for the F-35 which has the world's most advanced IRST.
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>>31059440
Because the U.S. has excelled at radar technology. IRST and advanced short range air to air missiles were championed by the Soviets because they couldn't compete with U.S. radars and radar guided missiles.

The Euros saw the value of the IRST's installed on Soviet 4th Gen fighters, so they included them on their 4.5 Gen fighters (Rafale and Typhoon). IRST was dropped from the F-22 because of cost.

IRST, in the form of a EOTS/DAS, is integrated into the F-35's sensor suite.

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http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/08/12/bill-weld-just-compared-ar-15s-weapons-mass-destruction-said-pistols-even-worse/
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>“The five-shot rifle, that’s a standard military rifle; the problem is if you attach a clip to it so it can fire more shells and if you remove the pin so that it becomes an automatic weapon, and those are independent criminal offenses,” Weld said. “That is when they become, essentially, a weapon of mass destruction. The problem with handguns probably is even worse than the problem of the AR15.”
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Jesus. That's as bad as Joe Biden.
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>>31060494
what did he mean by this?

>So according to Weld, I can take an old military rifle like a Mosin Nagant, attach clips to it, pull a pin, and then it will turn into a chemical, biological or radioactive weapon capable of causing widespread death and destruction.

nuclear nuggets when?

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do you think grenades shaped like frisbees would be a good idea?

you could fly them way farther than the round kind
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>>31059331
Ever tried discus?
How about throwing a baseball-sized object?
That's why.
Commonality.
Also one requires more innate skill.

>Why don't we toss AT mines like frisbees?
lol
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>>31059331
They're called land mines
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>>31059346
what if you made them light like frisbees

Does /k/ go to gun shows?
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i haven't been in like a year.

i need to go to one soon, see if i can move my sporterized snider.
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>>31059286
Not often. Around me everything is overpriced and far too many of the people are obese middle aged men who smell as though they haven't showered in a week.
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Never been to a single one. As I hear it they're nothing but overpriced garbage, liars, BZZZZZZZZT, and jerky.

Couple that with a retarded cover price and you can guarantee I'll never go for anything other than the zoo experience.

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where my ptr 91 homies at?

i'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a PTR 91 and need some help:

Apparently the newer version of the PTR91 has a different cut of the flutes in the chamber and/or less or more flutes (11 vs 12 or vice versa) to address the extraction problems that the "old" flute cut had with sealed ammo. Apparently the new cut does not hold the spent casing so tightly.

also i understand - is this right or wrong - the PTR91 GI has this more forgiving chamber so it is less finicky with ammo? or is the GI another step different...
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>>31059079
Apparently the newer version of the PTR91 has a different cut of the flutes in the chamber and/or less or more flutes (11 vs 12 or vice versa) to address the extraction problems that the "old" flute cut had with sealed ammo.
Yep.

>the PTR91 GI has this more forgiving chamber so it is less finicky with ammo?
Yep.

>am i correct in thinking that if a PTR91 has the paddle mag release that it is the newest version of PTR in its series...
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>>31059189
thank you kindly. How can I tell, on a model with no paddle release, if it has the fixed fluting? is there one less or more flutes?

i am finding mixed info on this lurking around on other boards; some discussions say there is one less flute and some say one more and some are saying the same number just a different cut.

i probably will not bother with a ptr91 without the paddle release but was jw.

also is there any difference in the chamber between a new GI and, say, a new FR/SC/KFM4R?
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>>31059235
Dunno how to tell, IIRC the cut is deeper. Contact PTR, they could probably tell you.

>is there any difference in the chamber between a new GI and, say, a new FR/SC/KFM4R
No chamber difference, but FR/SC/KF series have a bull barrel for target shooting instead of the thinner military barrel profile.

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What are you working on, /k/?

Constructive criticism welcomed.
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>>31058677
I'll take a stab at it, I can't see the purpose of the fixed stock, I think a thinner folding stock would work better and probably weight less. I just can't see how the fixed stock is helpful in any way of being ergonomic or useful.
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looks good, what software?
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>>31058677
Listen you tard. Just use a fucking pistol without this autistic shit. You are not Jason bourne

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Wanna purchase a firearm soon, something like an AR before the elections, but I admitted myself into a child behavior system ( could certainly be called a mental institution ) for no longer than a week. I don't want my personal safety to be compromised because of something I felt years ago. What are the chances of me not being able to purchase a fire arm. I'm 20 yrs old and live in Arkansas.
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This was a non profit organization but I have no idea whether or not non profits even give their records to the federal or state government.
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>>31058656
Just try to get your CHL. If you can't do that or live in a constitutional carry state or one that makes it impossible to get one, buy lower and see if you pass the bg check. If not you will only have to pay the restocking fee from most places.
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>>31058745
What do you mean by lower? Like an ar 15 lower?

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>An hour ago Emelyanov Volodya from Bashkirya has died, and I Digen Vasily Nikolaevich am left alone. Fascists are conducting a harsh bombardment, I am injured and won't live long. At night remaining survivors from the company ran off [surrendered] to fashist scum, but retribution will still find them. I am staying here, will die, but not surrender to the enemy. Tell my wife Anna Fedorovna in Chkalov region that I defended the Motherland as best as I could. We will win anyway!!! 30 August 1942. Digen V. N. Avenge me, guys

Why are Russians so badass?
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>>31058599
It's more badass to win without butchering millions of soldiers due to incompetence.
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>>31058603
another retard who mixes the governments actions with that of the soldiers or the soldiers ideals.
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>>31059041
So they both were retarded?

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Will the Russians and Ukranians ever stop fighting so we can have our cheap, surplus spam cans back?

Or are we doomed to buy repackaged surplus or new production forever?
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Just come to Canada, that shit is cheap and everywhere.
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>>31059232
how cheap are we talking?


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