I like it. I like it a lot. Finaly, some good gun depression
The Object 148 T-14 Armata will be the first russian tank to have finally an automatic transmission and a sterring wheel.
OP, you're a total faggot for posting this. That's not even real, and the real thing has already been photographed.
Also, can you believe that pic related has STANAG-4 armament and resistance to 14.5mm rounds? Absolutely incredible, they apparently are building the armour under a license.
Whoops, I meant it's got level 4 STANAG protection.
The Russians had a head start with development since if I remember correctly, they purchased several different European wheeled APCs and IFVs (including the 105mm freccia light tank, which they gave back) for testing.
The Boomerang will also have all round protection against 14.5mm rounds, frontal protection from 30mm rounds, and amphibious capability to top it off, meaning it will serve in the naval troops.
Same thing with the Typhoon, and the Kurgan.
Checkout this sexy ass.
Because everyone was hyped for the cool autocannon and minigun secondary weapons from OP's concept art, and they seem to have cut those from the final design. When the turret is revealed, it will inevitably be disappointing.
Also, it's not officially being unveiled to the public until the May Day parade.
Believing that 'concept art' is just like taking a deviant art page as the real thing. The Armata was explicitly being noted to be a cheaper alternative to the T-95.
And yeah, the tarp is being removed for the parade, obviously.
All i have is this picture of a paveway.
remove stealth, serbia strong
- It took 3 years to build this tank (Hallo, MBT-70-XM803-XM1)
- If crew disabled and can't control tank, tank can retreat by himself out of line of fire. It's possible to control tank remotely.
- About 100 tanks will be produced for state tests
- two modification of Kurganets.
- Kurganets and Boomerang are unified. Same diesel engine, electronics, etc
- Contract for 3 years of test production signed
- New battle module in 4 years.
- Battle module can be changed in field for 3 hours
- Typhoon MRAP has protection against 30mm shell.
- No export versions of Armata\Kurganets\Boomerang to 2020th
>Because everyone was hyped for the cool autocannon and minigun secondary weapons from OP's concept art, and they seem to have cut those from the final design.
lol mate, the OP's image is fanfiction stuff. We had no idea what they originally planned for the tank and what they cut from the design.
>modern tank supported by modern military with decent anti air capability
Comparison of Bumerang and Stryker, you can see the obvious superiority of American design under Chinese supervision
>yfw you realize the only reason they keep it covered is because they expect combat soon.
Most of the components are arriving in pieces, THe T-14 turret lacks parts like NERA and stuff, they're trying to cover it to hide parts that should be covered so as to hide where they put what. An example of this is the T-15 side skirts, except you cant really hide side skirts.
>tfw when that water bottle isn't you're dick as you gently scrape it over rough russian steel.
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If you want to talk with locals, don't use google translate, most of them can speak English
hello how are you?
>pilot following same route again and again
>flew relatively low
>only was able to get a shot in after bomb bay opened
>guessed after that
Mad skill on the operator's side but anybody with a lick of sense could shoot down a target like that. Would totally buy bread from the guy who shot it down though, seems like a pretty chill guy.
On today's news block on a TV they said that covers will be removed on May 9th and not a day earlier. "For all you concerned people that's another reason to watch the parade blah blah"
the krauts called, they want their autocannon back
>They already brought 12 T-14s to Moscow for the parade
>implying those are battleready Armatas that could be fielded
they're for parade, they could be BMP-3s with papier-mache armor
Second that. Just look at them building this crap back from 1940s
>am of blindings
Where info of from? 100%?
Truth. Will have weakness genuine, but Pindosy must seek it out now. Premature.
Restoration of proud machine spirit. Great machine, great victory!
The officials say T-14s are battle ready, but I have no idea how to prove this right or wrong. They also promised to show the tanks in action (shooting, driving through mud etc) at Russian Arms Expo 2015 in September, so we probably have to wait and see.
Who knows. I'm dying to see it without covers - IMHO it's hard to make a mock turret able to pass for real on close inspection.
As for other new vehicles, I know that some airborne brigades right now are being equipped with BMD-4 (picrelated) and BTR-MD for tests and training. Kurganets-25 ICVs are ready and waiting for army testing as well.
Personally, I have serious doubts that they will manage to build 2,300 T-14s by 2020 as Russian MoD is planning, but I'm pretty sure they wil have some hudred of those.
MoD was holding back on buying T-90s for the last couple of years because they were waiting for T-14.
Instead of ordering new T-90s, more money was put to outfitting existing T-90s and T-72s with extra kits, i.e. T-90MS and T-72B3.
Aesthetics don't win wars. Russian armor also doesn't have to look pretty to sell. It's a brand.
>MoD was holding back on buying T-90s for the last couple of years because they were waiting for T-14.
It may have been a stop gap but it doesn't excuse the fact that they only have about 900 in service of all variants since introduced in the 90's.
>i.e. T-90MS and T-72B3.
T-90MS is export only and T-72B3 is a complete overhall, not just a kit.
>only have about 900 in service of all variants since introduced in the 90's
Certainly no excuse, yes. One is lead to believe they intend to catch up.
>T-90MS is export only
Right, but there was a similar modification for the T-90A. T-90AS?
>T-72B3 is a complete overhall, not just a kit
T-14 is designed to do combat with tanks. Time will tell if its effective, but you're free to make authoritative claims ahead of schedule.
The T-14 is probably outdated before it was finished, and even if it is a halfway decent tank, Russia will build a few hundred before they run out of money to build more.
At that point they will whore it out on the international market in order to keep the line open, and it will have to face competition from tanks outside Russia. That's when we will know if it's any good.
>Right, but there was a similar modification for the T-90A. T-90AS?
Nope. For now, there is only T-90MS (S means export modification in Russian nomenclature) for export purposes. MoD refused to fund T-90MA production as they are really waiting for T-14s.
>Certainly no excuse, yes. One is lead to believe they intend to catch up.
Well, maybe they actually have an excuse, as 1990s were really hard for Russian military, no money no R&Ds no fancy new tanks. So when they at last managed to roll out T-90A with welded turret, thermal optics, new communications and engine, it was already rather outdated. Its modernization potential was also running out. As I see, T-90MS is the maximum you can squeeze out of this design and chasis. So why commision tanks you won't be able to upgrade? And now to mention some innate problems of the tanks of Soviet origin.
A have noticed that from the very beginning of /k in every Russia-related thread there would be at least one post stating that if Russians do not have some gizmo right now in mass production they will never have it because a) No money b) Russia will collapse in a week c) Slavshit sucks d) HurrDurr. When the gizmo actually enters mass production they chose the next one to repeat the whole process.
No, it's perfectly ok.
"Enemy tank regiment approaching? FIX BAYONETS!"
Yet almost everything that vatniks like you try to spew about how it will totally enter mass production any day now, never happens or at the most only 30 something are ever produced.
See: Su-35, BMPT, MiG-35, BTR-90, BMD-4, AN-94, AK-12, etc, etc
Yet almost everything that Amerifats like you try to spew about how it will totally enter mass production any day now, never happens or at the most only 30 something are ever produced.
See: FCS, F-35A,B,C, F-22, B-2, anything air deployable, etc.
And good thing the Navy picked up the slack and then some.
They have no experience or design/scientific school in building carriers, they have little school in any sector, be it bombers or tanks, to be honest, so its to no surprise they do not use they top-gear on daily basis.
Russia on the other hand has on of the most old, trusted and doable military scientific school in the world, especially when it comes to ground forces.
So, why exactly we, anons, must be concerned about T14's mass-production issues?
I suppose that Russia is the most probable country to actually field break-through and/or sophisticated vehicles fir ground forces, especially when consider ground forces focus of Russia's military and abandonment of respective part of military by West and gap between Russia and the West and other world like India and China.
Boomerang is just like old soviet Object 1200
>Not including glorious 12 produced not-good-enough-for-India T-50.
Pro-tip: no one actually uses word "vatnik" outside of russian boards and Krautchan. Next time, be more subtle, my Ukrainian friend.
What do you mean by "new"? If you mean some major breakthroughs for everyone's awe, then I don't know of any. But if "new" is "something comparable with modern European or American models and developed not in Soviet Era", then we have something to see.
If we speak of military production, Russians feel themselves quite competent in radars and SAMs ('Nebo' multifrequency radars, S400s, Pantsir-S are notable the example that I remember witout googling), explosive reactive armor, rocketry (they finally managed to make ICBM Bulava flying, kek. also, they now have some Iskander systems able to launce both SRBMs and cruise missiles), submarines (Borei-class), metallurgy and ceramic composites (reports on Russians fitting their APCs with advanced ceramic plating are googleable). They also introduced a number of brand-new frigates and guard-boats, but I don't know the details. Ah, and some minor shit like MRAPs, armored cars, machineguns, sniper rifles
Oh, and in civil engineering they are ready to sell their new nuclear reactors (VVER-1200) to whoever gonna pay.
As far as I can see their major shortcomings are electronics and plastics, which are lacking. Although, is rumors are true, they have finally managed to start mass production of their own CPU "Elbrus" which comes in dual, quad and octo core variants, the latter being produced in Taiwan, while the former are made in Russia.
>no R&Ds no fancy new tanks
Two tank projects were in the works before work began on the Armata chassis + turret: Black Eagle (Object 640) and Object 195 a.k.a. T-95. The former was a tech demonstrator, made in 1997 and intended to show "what could have been". Object 195 was being overseen by one guy, but then the command got reshuffled in 2010 and they scrapped the T-95 so that the new tank could be attributed entirely to this new guy.
It's unknown just how much was borrowed from Object 195, but the most likely answer is "a fucking lot".
>MoD refused to fund T-90MA production as they are really waiting for T-14s.
I heard something similar, but here's this chart I found on 2ch a while ago. (Correction: couldn't find the file, googled it and found a downsized version.) All of these models were supposedly produced in SOME quantity.
Wasn't India buying some?
BMPT has been superceded by the TBMP, which will use the Armata chassis.
Almost had it.
>everyone that points out how vatniks are retarded is an evil hohol!
I see we're already at Stage 2.
2ch dot hk/wm/res/1551284.html
New Russian thread. Lots of new photos and hype incoming
UIDF? More like УИИИИИ-DF, amirite?
Oooh, combat pictures, I'm so scared now
BMD4 is in service. BMPT was an export project; AN-94 and AK-12 was just a contestant for a small arms competition similar to how the we've had a bunch but in the end we still use M4s. BTR-90 was a proposal however the MoD decided BTR 82s (which have been mass produced) were just as good, but to help out the company they bought a few. Shitting on a country that literally imploded financially is like talking shit about a baseball batter who broke his arm.
One of the newest aircrafts of it's class, recently being put in service.
Which is arguebly ever supposed for internal use.
With many systems don't working, made by MiG, who is busy with MiG-31 and have underfunding issues.
Also keep in mind, that MiG-29/35 and Su-27/35 have much more little differences compared to F-16/F-15, its more like middle fighter/heavy fighter, when american counterpart, most widely used on the globe is more like light multitask fighter/heavy fighter.
MiG-29 is good fighter for his age, but where F-16 perform multiple tasks with air cover from F-15, MiG-29 and Su-27 function very close to each-other, and latter is much more capable for the task.
So, basically one can't tell for sure, whether russian MoD declined MiG-35 from service yet to be finished, or because it is falling of the doctrine or sort of that.
90's, duh. APCs was the least to worry about, no wonder that expensive replacement's for BTR-80 production stopped and also because more cheap and less cool versions where and is present - BTR-80A/82/82A/82AM, three of four sports the same 2F42 30mm cannon and only lacking in protection, ATGM and AGS.
Currently being put in service in VDV.
Unusual design with eternal reliability problems (mud and sand in moving parts, fastened worn-off of moving parts and junctions between moving parts of assault rifle and unmoving parts of assault rifle) and pricy for close to AK-74 characteristics.
Undergoing test military service to determine whether it will be the next main assault rifle of russian ground forces or it will be AEK.
Sort of this.
Railroads. Yes, they have lots of them. Oh, and they even don't use steam locomotives anymore, who could have believed?
Also, hundred-something of heavy transport planes for distant regiments.
The Flanker is shit, literally shit, terrible radar range, poor BVR, can't turn at high airspeeds well, can be supermanuveerable with a combat load.
MiG 35 is honestly better than those old SU-27Ps or the massively expensive (and shity) SU-35s.
Brand-new Patriot M3 picrelated.
so modernized to 1980s, congrats, USA!
Obviously that looks like it came from 2070, you silly vatnik, you.
This man has obviously had a lot of experience with military electronics, let's trust him.
>flanker is shit, literally shit, terrible, poor
>Two tank projects were in the works before work began on the Armata chassis + turret: Black Eagle (Object 640) and Object 195 a.k.a. T-95.
Well, they poked into two prototypes for 12+ years without much progress. AFAIK, O-640 was just a mockup turret on T-80 chasis all the way. That's what I call "no money no tanks"
Without even looking it up, I'll say with 99 percent certainty that whatever CPU Russia claims to be making, uses opensource ARM architecture, which means it really is designed by the USA.
And why exactly I must put your words to trust, anon with no arguments?
Also, last time MiG-35 was put to test in India's fighter contract (which Rafale won), it had many systems not working properly, namely the radar, if my memory is correct, when Su-35 don't have issues with this.
I'm sorry, what is Red Flag?
What is G loading?
What are drop tanks?
What is radar range?
What is BVR?
Why is my IRST shit when it comes to range?
Why can't I dogfight?
Tales of a flanker pilot, by Ivan Jackofski
It's more accurate to say that over 12 years passed without anything happening. Only in the last 5 years (supposedly, only the last 3) did the MoD sponsor Armata development. If they managed it that swiftly, even if we take into account results from the slow-burning/stalling development of T-95, that gives reason for hope.
Great opinion as always. Will you be here all night? Or will you be busy producing inbred offspring, so that we may be regaled with these fascinating tales for years to come?
You're asking a lot of questions without making any claims. I'm not sure what you're trying to assert, but if you are, make it clear. Or is this the part where we ignore common sense and fling feces like it's high art?
Report teaser arrived.
Srsly, stop falling into shitposting. You know, when you post slavshit mem to your post it in fact don't become more full of reasoning, in fact it will became less.
Yup. Look, they don't need top-notch GTAV-ready rig with octa core CPU and two SLI-connected dual video cards for SAMs. Instead, everybody use rather old but 100% bug-free protected and reliable specialized electronics, which would suck at any domestic task. Just google it. And, BTW, Russians now have their own CPUs for whatever purposes they need.
That first one wasn't the same person, kek.
Go, google Red Flag, go look up the SU-30's g loading, engine performance, then compare that with the SU-35.
Oh and "What is engine reliability"
>Without even looking it up
>know that [...] and that the S-300 isnt' combat tested
Is that a fact? Can I pull things out of my ass, too? Because I know for a fact you're a lying sack of shit.
You made the claims, the burden of proof is on you. I'm not obligated to do shit, but anybody with a lick of sense would question your deranged ramblings. Which you assume to be fact.
Hurry outside, the american aid plane is coming to kiev
>Here are my bullshit claims presented as facts. If you don't believe me on my unbiased and honest word, go and convince yourself otherwise RIGHT NOW. Because I said so.
Sounds about right.
At this point, I'm pretty sure you're just a reverse troll trying to give anti-ruskies a bad rep. On a board which could use more valid criticism and much less shitposting.
More like I've posted the review by an AF guy after Red Flag too many times now.
If you can't read about the T/W ratio, the Engine performance, G loading of the aircraft you're defending, and claim it's not shit, read.
Till then, I'll keep pissing of the RIDF.
In June 2014, T-Platforms in cooperation with Rostec and Rosnano announced Russian-made processors called "Baikal", 64-bit Cortex-A57 designs that run at 2 GHz.
The S-300 hasn't been used in real combat. We know that the USA/Israel has tested their fighters against models they got from the Czechs and other eastern Euros.
Sorry to hear that. Did you know image boards are not reccomended for people with stage 2 autism though. Hurry I hear mommy coming to check your room for sonic the hedgehogs and ponys!
You can tell the low iq reddit tards, they get one meme or picture, for instance his polandball meme or a fedora picture, and stick to it for an entire fucking thread thinking it wins their argument
You're entrenched in the "YOUR ALL MAD" stage.
Next comes the "I WAS TROLLING ALL ALONG" stage, unless mommy puts you to bed first
That's the point. Russians do try to meet world standards. Speaking of SAMs, picrelated is operator's workplace in "Tunguska" mobile complex, dating back to 1980s.
And this is the same from "Pantsir-S1" from 2000s
oh your picture didn't portrayed it correctly, i fixed it :^)
yes - i know that you like to drink my yellow "tears"
It looks pretty underwhelming tbh. The turret shape is looking very conventional and much larger than I thought for an unmanned turret.
I actually think the Kurganets-25 and Bumerang are more interesting projects, especially the one with a 57 mm auto cannon.
Yes they are. Actually, this is an overhaul for WW2 vehicle before the Victory day parade. On May 9th they are going to show them good ol' tanks rolling down the streets in a number of cities, not only in Moscow. In Khabarovsk officials even promise to restore and display some variant of WW1 Renault FT-17, lol.
It does not look like it has been built properly. I do not think it is beneficial to remove a crewman. I cannot see any export customers. I cannot see what it is supposed to do. I cannot see where the Russians are going to get the money from to ever build significant numbers of them.
The role of a modern tank is to threaten civilians and light irregular troops, and shell civilian areas. The Russian tanks in use do that just fine.
lemon/10, it has practically zero prospects.
>I cannot see where the Russians are going to get the money from to ever build significant numbers of them.
Trading, just like human kind do last several millennia?
>It does not look like
>I do not think
>I cannot see
>I cannot see
>I cannot see
Well, you suck.
>The role of a modern tank is to threaten civilians
Is it some Pol Pot-mobile fo genocide?
>Hey Ivan why are we of looking at ourselves?
>Because Vladimir, if we do not look at ourselves we can cannot be of understanding with ourselves
>Are you drinking again?
>No, I've started to read of Buddhism
>Why is a pacifist in Armed Forces?
>Self actualization Vladimir
>So have you seen that new Putin interview?
>No I have not
>It's the shit
>So you could say it's a pootin?
Does panzers still count as western, they don't look like they are up to the task of bringing freedom and democracy, last time they went on big war they was part of some genocide?
The problem is the lack of demand for new tanks globally. I cannot see any customers for this anywhere. The tanks you can get on the secondary markets are very good value for money.
The Russian state budget is under significant stress. The amount of money required to replace their current tanks with this would be very high, and it has not been shown to work.
It offers very poor taxpayer value. The role of the modern tank is to bully civilians and smack around lightly armed enemies. The old T-72s do that just fine.
they don't even have the technology nor the resources nor the industrial capacities to produce these tanks in notable numbers.
they will build a few prototypes and that's it.
also, the armata is too complex for russia's customers.
>The role of the modern tank is to bully civilians and smack around lightly armed enemies. The old T-72s do that just fine.
Well, in current conflict in Ukraine both sides use tanks to bully civilians and are even dumbfuck enough to use tanks against tanks. And you know, those old T-64s and T-72s just go BOOM, especially T-64 which not only throw their turrets upon shell detontation, but are literally torn in pieces. Maybe, it would be good to have some tanks that don't go into shreds from slightest punch? Just in case.
Picrelated T-14 in Moscow tonight.
Turkey have a massive, ageing tank stock. They are the largest potential export customer for tanks. I disregard India because of their constant fucking around during procurement.
>Turkey have a massive, ageing tank stock.
>They are the largest potential export customer for tanks.
No. They have an indigenous K2 knockoff that should be coming on-line soon.
>STANAG-4 armament and resistance to 14.5mm rounds?
russian created new ceramic sandwich armor which can be produced in industrial scales like simple steel plates. armor is lighter and has long wearing off - efect. the shit was tested last year.
since the armor was in the testing phase all their new armor vehicles are designed to change the armor plates in field. you dont know shit about what armor that vehicle is wearing right now.
Americans have an obsessive fear of russian things. Maybe the boogy monster in his closet is russian also, and the scary brown people on his street are protected by russian missiles.
MANSTATION OF THE FUTURE THEY SAID
EASIER TO USE THEY SAID
ofc they also have new ass seats in that PR van that Raytheon shit out.
also that van looks wierd, like shits all fucked up
14E and mad as hell
>did not know that there was an auto loader version of T34 back in WWII and was even deployed in small numbers
ya, I get my knowledge from actual books from the libraries instead of just what ever the fuck that was post in 4chan
Antonov was Russian and turned into shit since the collapse of the Soviet Union because Ukrainians can't run a company for shit. Nearly three decades with no innovations whatsoever, just surviving because Russia buys it because it respects Antonov's work.
You are now aware the real reason Russia is only buying 12 PAK-FA is due to the falling out with Ukraine, and the lack of a new source of required parts.
>so much american asspain and delusion
It's going to be hilarious what you guys come up with when Russia's got a 1,000+ of these and producing hundreds yearly.
>b-but russia has no money! :(
>b-b-but muh murrican conomy, muh sanctions!
>b-b-but commies can't industry
And finally, the sour grapes:
>b-b-but it sucks!
This is more true than you think it is.
SU-35 and PAK-FA share a tone of engine parts, many of those came from Ukraine.