Today is the day Canada, I hope you all remembered to plan your boating trip the numbers aren't looking good.
Today is our federal election. The current government can be considered relatively friendly to firearms owners, but the other two main parties are not. The current government is the subject of a very coordinated media and activism campaign aimed at making sure it looses power.
The polls are projecting that this will happen.
Our gun ownership has never been guaranteed, but for the last four years it has not been in jeopardy. Today this could very well change.
I have been dreading this all summer.
Good luck Canuckbros. No matter what happens dont give them a fucking inch
There's no way they win, even if they're elected
The other parties all said that they'd boycott the chamber if harper gets in again
basically saying fuck you to democracy because the result wasn't what they wanted
...and people agree with that
>basically saying fuck you to democracy because the result wasn't what they wanted
Man fuck those guys.
Been thinking about it for awhile actually, not sure what state though. Don't really feel like living in buttfuck nowhere Alaska despite how free people make it sound.
Well look on the bright side, Canada is probably the most similar to the U.S. Culturally so you will be accepted basically right off the bat. Plus I assume you are white which is a plus
I heard there is a good rust preventative that goes on wet and dries like wax. Anyone knows what it's called? Sounds useful for long term storage underground.
Worst case scenario: libs win a minority
Best case: the left vote is split between NDP and LIB while the Cons win a minority due to a strong loyal base. Greens and Bloc continue to be a wastebin for voters further helping the Cons gain seats.
Shot my AR yesterday, hopefully not for the last time. My non restricted' are ready to be lost in boating accidents and sold to Mike from Canmore
WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE LIVING UNDER JUSTIN "CUCKBOY" TRUDEAU?!
>Just after the federal election
>Dad and I are kekking as we watch the liberal party imploding on TV
>Say offhandedly: "I bet Trudeau Jr. is going to be the next leader of their party."
>Dad: "Absolutely not, no."
>Dad: "Because he's as dumb as a box of rocks."
I should fucking bet money on that, man. At least I'd be able to afford some liquor to drown my sorrows away tonight.
>tfw it's a close call between the NDP and the Libs in my riding
>tfw all other parties are far behind
>tfw I have to vote libs to help prevent the NDP from getting elected
>Protests to legalize weed saying laws do nothing to prevent its use
>Want to bans guns
i just want harper to win again.
The longer we keep him in the power.
The harder it is for anti funs to get at us.
The most the liberals or NDP can do is ban our handguns / ARs, considering the long gun registry is gone.
It would be political suicide if they try to make a long gun registry again.
Good luck Canadabros, for some reason I can't help but be interested in your country's politics. You guys have better gun laws than New Jersey, sadly enough, don't let it get worse than here.
Also Niagara is based as fuck, don't let Ontario become Vancouver. Posting my Mosin for support
dont give them a vote.
Just vote blue or green.
also captcha knows.
>conservafags will defend it as a 100% accurate representation
Which is funny, because conservatives, having no sense of humour or subtlety, are always the first group to shit on any editorial comic that gets posted up here, often citing how it's not "part of the discussion".
Reminder that the Green Party has the best gun policy
>It would be political suicide if they try to make a long gun registry again.
They want to join in on the UN's ATT system, which would functionally become a registry in the hands of the UN after a few years. They still want it, but they want to be sneaky about it.
no, but it is better than liberal or NDP
They'll vote against the Throne Speech, and then ask to form a Liberal NDP coalition.
The way the Conservatives can fight this is have Harper announce his retirement right before the Throne Speech. They'll still lose and a Lib-NDP coalition will be in, but it'll put them in a better position for the inevitable election 18 months down the road. There's no way Mulcair will put up with Trudeau's cronies for any longer.
Let this be a lesson to you Yanks- you want your candidate to win, get the stoner vote.
As for Canada, the Cons need a new strategy for next election- maybe we'll promise legal home growing and sharing or something.
Repeat after me, Canadabro... "No hablo ingles."
That's the secret password to get in. You're welcome.
>yfw the Marxist-Leninist Party wins a majority
Bunkers for everyone!
No problem guys. Keep your stick on the ice.
SVTs, you mean. The problem won't be us exporting them, it'll be you importing them. If all semi-autos get declared prohib it makes them easier to be exported. Then we run into the giant wall that is your import regs.
daily reminder that after a certain point, it is perfectly sane and morally justifiable to remove a representative from office with force
pic somewhat related
I think our best case scenario at this point is CPC minority with an NDP opposition. Our government will be basically in a complete deadlock, but that's better than the government fucking up constantly.
And the whole "Coalition of losers" thing was tried last time we got a minority and supporters of all the opposition parties fucking hated the idea. That's why it didn't happen.
It would most likely be a Liberal opposition. I think that would be worse, but that's just me. In the mean time, if the Cons win, they could start reclassifying guns to NR via OIC.
I always thought this was kinda dumb. Why shouldn't we be able to talk about gun control with people who share your own opinion. Trolls aside, I think the discourse on this board is much more intelligent than anything on /pol/ plus it helps me keep in the loop on recent happenings that I may have missed.
There is no way that Italian piece of crap made three accurate headshots in 5 seconds
>tfw you realize that is a sporterized nugget
>not liking the mosin of the 60's
despite the meme spewing, most wwii era guns worked just fine. the mauser and enfield werent the only well working rifles of the war. it was a perfectly decent gun for the day. (wwii that is, not when JFK was shot)
Thanks Governor. Glad you could shed some insight into this conspiracy
>Our government will be basically in a complete deadlock
This is Canada, you won't see one side completely cock-blocking the other out of petty spitefulness like the GOP has been doing down south.
I might be because of the shitstorm that would go off here every time Sandy Hook or something similar happened. Aside from the usual pro/anti arguing there was always a bunch of idiots trying to start a buying panic.
I would literally just avoid this place for a week or two every time a shooting happened, it got so bad.
>Head sized target
>Target in moving vehicle
>Wonky 6.5mm cartridge
>In 5 seconds
I'd like to see you do it
>>Head sized target
which was only hit once
>>Target in moving vehicle
moving directly forward of the shooter so it may as well not be moving
a trained marine
makes no difference at 70 meters
>>Wonky 6.5mm cartridge
6.5 was efficient for the day
>>In 5 seconds
this is the only difficult part
>>>Head sized target
>which was hit twice (Neck,Head)
>>>Target in moving vehicle
>moving directly forward of the shooter so it add a small degree of difficulty
>a trained marine who qualified at the bottom of level of acceptability
>makes small difference at 70 meters
>>>Wonky 6.5mm cartridge
>6.5 was efficient for the killing Eithiopians in 1930
>>>In 5 seconds
>this is the most difficult part
There was a theory I read that the shot that blew out is brain was actually from an M16 shot "accidentally" from the secret service limo behind. It would account for witnesses smelling gun power street level...
Do I need to bring out my Russian chickens??
I'm thinking of having my my vote rejected. I live i na NDP stronghold and the only other 2 lib and con candidates don't even bother trying for my district.
I think there was a small article saying that the conservative candidate for my area was like the least know in all of Canada.
>This is Canada, you won't see one side completely cock-blocking the other out of petty spitefulness like the GOP has been doing down south.
They even do whipped votes for private member's bills (which are traditionally free vote), so yes. We are just as spiteful as our Ameribros.
Ehhh. It really depends on what happens in Quebec. Oddly enough, we may actually see a greater than normal number of CPC ridings there. This election is kinda crazy.
If you speak French, it'll be a lot easier to find a course.
No problem, bro. Though, take it from me: The grass is much greener west of Quebec.
Rent LOOKS more expensive, but most places here include water/heating/electricity, so it comes out to roughly similar. Food is cheaper, too.
Oh, and you don't need to file provincial taxes separately from the federal ones. Much faster/easier.
If you move out near the end of the fiscal year, you also get a fuckton of money back. I think my refund jumped up 1500$ when I moved out of Quebec (for that year, specifically).
There are more and more Quebecers in Ontario, but they are pretty much exclusively the cool ones. :)
I never said a little gun control wouldn't be bad. But conservatives are amazingly blind to lies and bullshit in the media, when it's their flavour of bullshit. Meanwhile satire making a legitimate commentary is derided.
Anyone take this quiz yet?
I'm not too disappointed I guess.
>Lib NDP coalition
it'll never happen
it's just something Mulcair said he'd do because he thought it could get him votes
And he was talking a lot about it when he was #1 or 2 in the polls
But now that Trudeau got ahead of him in the polls, all he does is trash talk the liberals
Mulcair's a two-faced asshole and there's no way he'll want to share power
> MFW We can't import them so hundreds of thousands of SVT 40's get melted down
>mfw pledging allegiance to the US flag while thanking my founding fathers for spilling blood on the fields of this glorious country for my right to buy a fucking AR-15 with a 100 round drum mag at 18 with no licensing
Was hoping that I'd be closer to Conservative
I call bullshit on this one. I hate immigration, want less gun control, less spying, less general government BS, but do believe we should invest in our future.
no fucking way
there's no way this is accurate
>tfw we're about to lose all our handguns just as I was looking into getting either a VZ 61 in .380 or a ruger new vaquero as a first handgun
I wish I was born in the promise land, Utah.
>all this butthurt
Face facts, guns are pretty much the only reason you want to vote Tory, even though it's true that most of the other parties represent you better.
That's exactly it. I'm conservative on immigration, gun control, foreign policy, healthcare and a few social issues but I'm not going to let some retard in a sweater vest sell my country to Ching fucking Chong across the way. Fuck it, let's keep the sweater vest alive Canada.
If I had a way in I would. Unfortunately I decided to get two different technical diplomas in college instead of one bachelors degree. The degree would actually help me get into freedomland, whereas being able to do a fuckload of different things? Useless.
not even canada can fix detroit, id be down to move to kentucky though.
America should just annex us already, I'd be more than happy with Alberta being the 51st state if it meant no refugee's and god-tier gun laws.
I'm so sick of traitorous fucks like you
National pride is in the shitter, and people just complain about how this country is shit and how it would be so much better if you moved to the US. Fucking go, then.
The day this country gets absorbed into the US is the day I put a bullet in my head.
Anyone who didn't vote libertarian needs to read the party platform and reevaluate their life.
All I want is to just be left alone with my funs and go target shooting off my back porch.
biggest fucking kek
>tfw no Libertarian in my riding
Also what is this site?
I feel for you bru, I was truly glad to be able to vote Libertarian this election, a ton more candidates this time around. Here you go:
Its literally all they know how to do. Once the elections over they'll go back to spamming whatever other bullshit they usually spam to make themselves feel better without actually doing anything.
Last election I voted libertarian but, I mean what was the point? He was never going to take a seat. Our election system is flawed beyond belief. the rep thats right for my area might not be right for the rest of the nation so I'm forced to pick based on whats right for the nation disregarding my own riding
which is funny because i feel like the only 20 year old that is voting conservative
>mfw i tell them im voting for based harper
>why is everyone saying Harper is le boogeyman
Yeah people gotta leave Harper alone, he a good boy, he didnfu nuffin...
Oh, except for pic related...
That's your choice anon, that's the great thing about democracy. But I'm in the belief that you put your vote down for what you believe in, thus I'll be voting Libertarian until the great kebab happening apocalypse. Then we do a different kind of voting :^)
After reading about them, I really hope they're on the rise. Shame the only truly beneficial party in the country lost it's registered status. At least they're not out of the province completely.
Yes, Harpers mistreatment of veterans is nothing. His constant lies about the budget are nothing. His partisan attacks against other government offices and officials are nothing.
Just what the fuck do Tory voters care about then?
I care about our economy a.k.a trying to reduce the defecit not spending on superflous social programs
I care about not letting in a bunch of Refugees with no security screening that may or may not be ISIS recruits
I care about keeping my firearms and not letting the government disarm its citizens
I don't give a fuck about the enviroment i don't care about missing aboriginal women.
Harpers done a decent job in the time he's been in also if you act like the Liberals / NDP are any different then i laugh at you. Your forgetting the liberals had a similar scandal in the 90's and the premier of my province.Kathleen wynne was caught in a scandal stealing tons of money and now shes the god damn premier.
This is what I'd be if I was Canadian, not surprised, tbh.
>not supporting the only party that supports firearms owners
Liberals atleast want to re-establish the long gun registry and the NDP want to ban all semi autos and handguns
I still do not get how in this day and age we still elect officials to represent us. Elected officials made sense back when the idea of travelling to voice your opinion was a big deal. It just wouldn't be practical to have all of Canada gather in the parliament building every time we want to discuss something. Now every person in Canada could vote electronically. Every day you get a couple text messages, or emails, or you have some special snowflake account you log into. You read what it says, and click yes, no, or "I would like to propose another option" I agree with NONE of the officials we are being offered to choose between. I want to vote on individual issues, not to decide a couple issues that matter most to me.
they do that in switzerland i think?? i saw a picture that was a card with mulitple boxes and had different "big' topics like buying the new gripen.how many refugees to let in etc they could do something like that
The public as a whole is honestly pretty retarded, and shouldn't really be trusted with direct democracy. Voting for the representative you feel is most qualified to represent you is the best approach we have until we can make an AI to rule over us
Well Harper isn't doing that, he's been 'balancing' the budget on the backs of public services.
Noone is going to let in refugees without security screenings.
Firearms is a sticking point I'll admit.
>environment and aboriginal women
Plenty of people do, and I'd like to keep our beautiful country nice and pristine. Also, there's some disturbing parallels between the situation with aboriginal women and 70's serial killers. Namely they were able to kill so many children because the police labelled them run aways and didn't care past that. If someone had taken notice sooner, Robert Pickton probably wouldn't have racked up a body count in the triple digits.
>everyone is the same
Yes that's a great reason to vote for Harper.
>Implying an ideal AI wouldn't pretty much be Liberty Prime with a head for economics
>tfw 21 year old unifag who just got back from voting for Con's
Fuck the libs
The Tories don't support firearms ownership out of some sincere belief in it. And there's more important issues this election for me to think being a single-issue voter is sensible.
Well the infographic that I slapped up just a little while ago is a good start.
Some of the other things that Harper has done include creating a new office to monitor and report on the Federal Budget. And when they reported on the Harper government to Parliament the PM declined to renew the office's funding. He's also made partisan commentary against the Supreme Court after they made a couple rulings against the government, and while not perfect the Supreme Court tends to be on the side of the Canadian people, and their personal liberties.
The Veterans situation is one I find personally distasteful, since the VA minister insulted Nova Scotian veterans on more than one occasion.
Which brings me to the subject of the Maritimes. Harper is the kind of politician who only goes out of his way to help people that vote for him, instead of governing in a way that's supposed to be beneficial for all Canadians. The Tories haven't gotten much support from the Maritimes over the last decade, and the Maritimes have been made to pay for it.
There's the fact that he pushed through an omnibus crime bill that punished selling marijuana more than being trafficing child pornography, and that the Tory government has suppressed poll data that says 70% of Canadians support legalization.
That it used its majority to push through Bill C-51, which is in violation of the privacy section of Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and has even been denounced by the agencies it is empowering as being unnecessary for them to effectively combat terror.
He has also used that same majority to push through the TPP, which I don't even want to get started on, there's so many things wrong with it (the part about our MP's, and us the people, not being allowed to fucking read it being top among them).
I kinda wish we had flags visible like /pol/ did... maybe just for specific threads.
With the exception of some of the recent election threads it always seems like we have so many people pretending to be Canadian in these. Thankfully most of them are easy to spot.
I dunno, while I think people trolling other people for being bongs or other non-burgers would happen, it would let us keep track of geniuses like the following...
>Uhh, yes they are. Conservatives in Canada are left-wing. Liberals are socialists. NDP are straight up communists.
The mighty minds of /pol/ everybody. The only time I've ever seen anyone claim the Harper tories are left-wing.
And yet the other parties would somehow manage to do even less for us. I can hardly fault anybody for their choice because they're all so fucking bad. I already voted for Harpdawg last week though, my uni had a station set up
Fucking hell boys, 4 and a half hours until we find out. No matter who we voted for, I think we can all agree it's going to be a tense wait.
>mfw Nova Scotia is up first and then I get to watch what the rest of the country does with nervous terror
The quiz measures against the party's *stated* platform.
You may not "trust" the people in those parties to carry out those platforms competently or effectively, but you have opinions that align in principle.
To be fair, anyone who was here over the last few years, having to experience the amounts of craziness that cook off every time a shooting happens, knows it got pretty bad.
/k/ wasn't fit to visit, all it would be is threads encouraging panic buying and lots of arguing.
>some aspie at school "so who you guys voting for?"
>nobody likes this guy
>one guy finally says hes voting for cons
>"oh man really? dont you know how evil harper is yadayada truduea would be good for this country"
I'm pretty satisfied with these results because all too often these quizzes are horribly biased in favour of left.
That's comic's a funny load of shit, cause the RCMP has been going around re-banning guns without any input from any political party.
Nose-in-the-air LEOs are the ones making the call.
Except the government can call em on it and fix the classifications thanks to C-42. This is part of what the Liberals want to get rid of, so they can only move guns to prohibited. The Liberals only want guns to move towards prohibited, and never to non restricted.
That's debatable. While the NDP has never tried to appeal to everyone (even now), as a party they've always allowed the most individual freedom for their MP's, which is the kind of thing that gives them a broad appeal (and more pro-guns MPs than people realize).
>regulations set by city
They'd need to make some major changes to accommodate that, since criminal law is set by the Federal government. And the Feds have always been against a shitty patchwork law system like has happened with the US states.
Reminder that debating between these 2 used to be our biggest concern.
You know, the fun thing about this is:
If the CPC wins (even a minority), then it'll feel like a "come from behind" victory and be even more enthusing for the supporters. Meanwhile, the LPC supporters which were emotionally set up for a stunning victory would be faced with a sudden shock. I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of them lacrimating all over the place. Both figurative and literal meanings.
It sounded like it when they implied that the maritimes were voting against Harper because we're poor and on EI, like those are the only reasons to. And then someone else said it again in the post right after mine.
People forget that only about 6 years ago large parts of the Maritimes were voting Tory.
I feel that there are plenty of valid reasons to vote against Harper (hell I hate him, but just feel everybody else still manages to be worse). But that in the case of the maritimes, that's probably a key factor.
On the 31st, Silverdale is having a Pumpkin shoot for make a wish foundation. Plan to take my CF Green Diemaco SA15.7, and maybe my 380 Skorp if the Certificate comes in before then.
Unfortunately minority governments can and do exist in canada. Theoretically shouldn't be a problem but party hardliner prevent any meaningful cooperation meaning that under certain circumstances we can end up with a gridlocked house for up to 6 years.
Though minority governments usually don't last that long. For those of you who weren't of voting age at the time (or just disinterested...), We used to have an election every year. EVERY. YEAR.
>Atlantic Canada going full-libtard
Ignorant South Carolinian here. Hearing you talk about all these unfamiliar rituals and political chess with parties and candidates know nothing about is strange. Kind of thought you were describing the political background to a medieval fantasy story. Interesting.
Basically, it's theoretically possible that the government falls immediately after an election.
Typically they wait at least a year before doing a non-confidence vote (because of the push-back they'd get from Canadians would be huge).
Especially when you start talking about the history of each political party or things like political sabotage.
One of my favorite moments is when PM Jean Chrétien (LPC) was pushed out of his own political party. His final "fuck you" to them was to change the rules for campaign financing that directly opposed how the LPC got most of it's money.
Alright DrafterAnon, what were they saying, because, again...
>>The land of employment insurance votes red
>I'm surprised folks.
>Guys this is the East: they're poor and have no jobs. This is exactly what you'd expect, the Cons will start getting seats once we get to the centre/west
Sounds pretty insulting.
CRASHING THE PLANE
WITH NO SURVIVORS
~Liberal party of Canada
Oh, they definitely wrote it to insult. I'm not arguing that.
I'm arguing that they didn't say:
>only poor people on EI vote against Harper
>there's no legit reasons not to
This isn't a hugbox. You're totally allowed to word your replies as harshly as you want. That's the point. Just make sure you actually attack what a person says, not what your feels say.
My point was more that a coalition government wouldn`t be "undemocratic" as some have been decrying it. Especially since for the Tories to get a minority it would require the popular vote to go to the NDP and Liberals.
But yes in theory a minority government should be tendable, and in many ways it is, even with party hardliners around to much things up. Even when we were having an election every year and some change there was plenty of cooperation between the parties, and it was the big key issues that always ended up forcing an election (well, and that one time Harper dissolved government because he was found to be In Contempt of Parliament).
The Harper Tories have been a polarizing force in Canadian politics, and not for the better if you ask me. Attack ads, smear campaigns, and shady tactics like robo-calls all came about under his government, things toxic to our democracy, and I hope they do not linger long after it is gone.
IIRC Prince Edward Island has the most seats per capita, but for the most part, you're correct that the maritimes don't amount to all that many ridings.
Quebec is more powerful than they otherwise would be because they were guaranteed by Canadian law to get at least a certain number of seats.
Other than that, it basically comes down to Ontario, B.C. and, due to their general political leaning, Alberta (Despite their relatively lower population).
>(well, and that one time Harper dissolved government because he was found to be In Contempt of Parliament)
It's actually pretty common for PM's to prorogue parliament when they're in trouble. IIRC, Jean Chrétien actually did so more often than Harper.
Ah, yes. The good ol' "Shawinigan Handshake".
Am I the only one that finds it funny that Seamus O'Regan was elected LPC?
It'd be interesting to go back and look at the stuff he said over his run at CTV.
I'm a classical liberal (What most people call "libertarian" these days), yet still follow the law of the land as much as possible.
You can get it cheap now that a lot of Fishermen have gotten fed up with the lousy prices they're getting.
Several have set up shop around the outskirts of Halifax, and they just set up a sign and park a truck full of icy coolers and live lobsters nearby, and sell directly to people. They're probably all over the place in rural areas.
>no way that cant be...
The Throne Speech is an annual speech delivered by the Governor-General on behalf of the Queen relaying her instructions to Parliament on what she wants them to legislate on in the coming year (in other words, it's the Government announcing its budget and schedule). If Parliament doesn't approve the speech it's a de-facto vote of no confidence in the Government and usually triggers another election.
Yup. We'd just buy buckets full of iced shellfish and then prep them over the campfire.
I believe people get the government they deserve. I'm vocal about my stance on things, even where/when it's controversial. I vote every election.
I will always fight however I can against what I find unjust. Hell, I'll probably end up going into politics as I grow old just because I so rarely feel represented by the politicians in my riding.
Same, I thought that they'd recovered from their Provincial loss since people have been feeling some buyer's remorse with the Liberals. And everyone thought Peter Stoffers seat was secure as all hell too.
Not to sound too whiny, but I think it's the strategic voting. As soon as I started hearing talk about it I knew it was going to screw us for the same reason that Tories are afraid of people voting for Trudeau. He's a pretty boy with 'brand name' recognition which puts him ahead of the other party leaders in the public eye, and appeals to younger voters who haven't spent as much time reading the party platforms. Combined with the large number of people who just want Harper to be gone, I was seeing red in my nightmares before this night arrived.
If Jack was still around, he'd be Prime Minister tomorrow.
Well, most of the NDP's seats last election came from a protest vote in Quebec (Notice the BQ basically disappeared that election).
Many of those ridings had a candidate just to say they had a candidate.
One of the NDP MP's didn't speak French (in a French riding) and was actually partying in vegas during the election.
I was living in Quebec at the time and many of the people who voted NDP would say shit like "I am voting for Jack Clayton". CLAYton.
Niqabs weren't even a thing until Harper took a Quebec issue and made it into a national one. Barely anyone outside of Quebec cares about the things, and the whole debate isn't even over banning them entirely, it's about whether they should wear them while swearing citizenship.
I don't really care about the niqab one way or the other, but the fact that this became a major point of the election is fucking bullshit.
Mulcair is a fucking goober though.
It's really funny reading the posts on /pol/.
>"maybe they'll replace Harper and put a real conservative in charge"
LOL, they should be thankful that Harper has done such a good job hiding the Tories batshit all these years, because doubling-down on hardcore far-right policies would certainly be the wrong thing to do after dumping Harper.
The niqab is an issue in Quebec for more than just being sworn in for citizenship.
Just look at the "Quebec charter of values".
Because I expect other people to follow the same rule set I do even if they consider some of those laws unjust. What one person considers unjust another does not.
Also "the silent majority" of conservatives shit is hilarious too, considering Canada is a pretty left-leaning country in general (even most of our conservatives are pretty centrist, or focused on fiscal issues while being pretty socially liberal).
Godspeed and good luck, Canuks. I only ask you wish us Amerifags the same next year.
And if shit goes down and things go bad, come to the US and give us a hand. Considering how easy it is for illegals to get a voter ID, we could use your help.
So to take this logic to an extreme yet historically pertinent example, would you deem it acceptable for people to have illegally harbored fugitive slaves in civil war-era America? Would you aid a slave on the run, or would you abide by the law and turn them in?
I'm not talking about slaves, though I could see how you might interpret it that way. I'm talking about guns, which was the initial context of the discussion.
If we accept that people have the right to self-ownership, then people cannot be property.
I do. That's why I consider the lack of property rights in our Charter of Rights and Freedoms to be highly unjust (and one of the main reasons I dislike Pierre Elliott Trudeau).
Self-ownership is THE MOST basic human right.
Can someone explain this "Boating Accident" joke? I'm a new firearms owner, Restricted stuff. Do you not have to report items lost at sea? I don't understand.
Just use this site
Property rights are quite a bit more difficult to work around because of issues like taxation. I do fight for the inclusion of property rights because I believe the lack of property rights to be unjust and will absolutely use the judicial system if I'm victim to warrantless removal of property.
you lose the non restricted stuff.
but yeah its mostly a joke from the states and people think it translates up here when it doesnt because you'll get in serious shit for not reporting a missing gun.
just say you sold it to a guy
They can't confiscate guns you don't have. You just say, "Oh, I brought it along hunting and it fell out of the boat. Spent all afternoon trying to find it, but that was some deep water. Sorry, officer, I didn't know I needed to report it destroyed."
ok shits getting worrisome.
Imma buy a MK18 right away.
So, theoretically, if one were to buy into the gunsToBeBanned hysteria, what would one want to buy immediately? If one already had an RPAL + range memberships, a few handguns (but had their eye on some more), an AR-15, a VZ.58. Theoretically of course, with a theoretical budget of about $6000.
Well, looks like it's time to kill a politician
It's been fun, but I suppose all good things come to an end.
Kiss your Raifus mon Amis, the reign of the libcucks has begun
Only 40 of the LPC seats are confirmed. 134 are still being counted.
And even if he does win a majority, calm down and think about what needs to be done. Start writing letters against gun control.
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE! THE RCMP IS GONNA KICK DOWN OUR DOORS AND SHOOT US ALL FOR DARING TO OWN SCURY SALT RIFLES!
>Halifax is Liberal
Why must my city be the first to fall?
>TFW no more guns
>TFW goodbye F35
>TFW the navy already has a fuckhuge shipbuilding contract here in Halifax Trudeau you dipshit we don't want a fucking cheapass fighter.
I can imagine him going far enough as to disarm pic related (The Halifax) because "gunz r ebil".
Yes I'm flipping shit right now.
Oh fuck you guys really think Trudeau is in charge? Relax. Hes a puppet like Bush was to Cheney.
Well what else can we do? Take up arms and march on the house of commons?...
Actually that's not a bad idea, let's just kill all the libs before they can let in the refugee's to destroy this country.
1. Bullpups and 50cals have been mentioned by RCMP in the past
2. Doesn't have to make sence
3. Bullpups are scurry small rifles easy rcmp job
4. Bullpups in the country FN2000, PS90, Tavor, Type 97NSR, UTAS-15, RFB, KSG, M17s, DT MDR, GM6 Lynx, QBU 88, WA-2000
5. Bullpups kits already banned
6. Bullpups already banned that were legal at the time(After 12.X was set) HS model 10A and B, Barret 95?(Not sure), Type97a and b
Yup 1 I know of but not banned so there could be more. Aside from them being super rare.
Mines used and totally sold it to some guy and is not going to be sealed in my walls.
Come on down to the US. I'm good friends with a family of Canadian ex-pats down here, and they've done well for themselves. Originally came because the wife needed a hip surgery that the amazing socialized medicine of Canada was slow boating on. That was almost ten years ago.
Oh, and come voting time next year, be sure to wander into one of those counties that hate voter IDs. We could always use the help.
SG-540 is like 3k-4k, a .50 is at least 3k-4k, I don't like the Tavor, the T-97 is meh with the FTU, but still 1.3k at that point, an FS-2000 (preferred) is about 2.3k (if you can find one), PS-90 is about 2k-2.5k but ammo is expensive.
What would theoretically be the priority?
Stick with the SG-540 if you like it aftermarket stuff is costly I would get some extra mags.
FS-2000 are way to hard to find right now don't see them used too often and from the states they would be 16.5" restricted barrels.
Maybe a robinson arms or NR ACR.
It's all over, get ready for the RCMP to come to your house and steal all your guns, or lynch you if you claim you lost them in a boating incident.
I don't think the libs will impose retarded gun laws, considering they are taking conservative votes. But they will try, oh they will try.
Thats why gotta get James moore as leader of CPC, steal those votes back
Or.. a CANADIAN!
The last time we let refugees in from a war torn nation in the middle-east they ended up making pizzas. Lebanese make good pizza it turns out.
Don't be one of those retards who thinks we're just going to swing the doors open without giving anyone a security check.
>I don't think the libs will impose retarded gun laws
>did not read the rest of my post
>implying the Liberals give a fuck about gun owners
Just look at their platform on gun control, they straight up blatantly lie about Canada's present gun laws to justify their position. So much for "evidence-based policy."
As a Lebanese christian, you better hope they're christian.
I'm a refugee from the Civil war.
The muslims are unbearable, and we will hate them more than your average stormfag ever could.
>Oh, and come voting time next year, be sure to wander into one of those counties that hate voter IDs. We could always use the help.
You're cute, because it was your kind that whined the loudest about needing voter ID's, yet you'd be all too happy to break the law when it's in your benefit.
though their stance is retarded. They have bigger problems and if they did steal enough Conservative votes, they'll shy away from alienating the votes they just won
still, thats all wishful thinking. Im seriously considering working for James Moore's if he tries to be the next leader of the CPC
It's almost kind of funny. The fact that Trudeau is all about decriminalizing/legalizing weed, probably one of the few things that I could look forward to if he wins, but I still can't enjoy this because my workplace has zero tolerance for that shit regardless of the legality of weed. In other words there is literally nothing for me to look forward to if/when Trudeau wins.
I try not to judge people in sweeping generalities, though I'm far from blind to the radicalism infesting the muslim world. That's why people really need to stop acting like refugees won't be screened.
And as a refugee yourself, when you came here weren't you more concerned with building a life, and more than a little bit relieved to be in a safe country, to think about much else, let alone being an asshole to the people who helped you out? It's hardly a naive idea to want to treat people decently, until they give you a reason not to.
>modify the membership of the Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee to include representatives from women’s groups
>repeal changes made by Bill C-42 that allow restricted and prohibited weapons to be freely transported without a permit
See you in hell /k/anadians
>123 elected Liberal seats
Well I guess this is it then. I'd like to thank Alberta, Saskatchewan, and I guess BC as well, but unfortunately despite their best effort it wasn't to be.
well he's gonna re-invest in the RCN.....with funds from the airforce. fuck. I hate when politicians get involved in defense spending. Harper ruined the F35 for us by lying about the costs and Trudeau is fucking over the air force because of that and he'll probably choose the Gripen as the next fighter.
>still better than shillary (kinda, though not really)
Well boys, bury your guns now and start writing up those false private sales papers.
Also keep a close lookout of any wives or girlfriends you may have because the odds of her getting raped to death by muslims just increased substantially.
>Well gents, logic, liberty and reason died a little this evening.
Yeah, the Conservatives are still getting seats.
Harper and co. can get fucked. That man is poison for this country and any party attached to him needs to go.
I think I'm gonna barf, RIP Canada. Time to grab my canoe and hit the lake.
I'll always hate muslims.
My entire family fought in that war.
Do you know what Lebanon used to look like?
90% christian, the paris of the ME, the Switzerland of the middle east
Guess why it was destroyed?
We took in Palestinans who were thrown out of Israel, and gave them refuge out of the kindness of our hearts, and they waged war against us.
Now the country is 60% muslim, failing to deal with trash, and is in ruin.
The native Lebanese people will be outbred in the next 2 decades, and it'll be due to Pan arabs, and muslims breeding excessively.
It's exactly what will happen to the western white countries.
It only took 5 decades to destroy Lebanon.
I just know what side i'll be on if SHTF, and it wont be the muslims.
Time to start applying for a work visa in the states, maybe I can claim refugee status.
Don't claim it. Looks bad and the US has a cap on the number of refugees it can take every year. Find a good company and get them to sponsor your visa. I really hope you have some in demand skills. I know a lot of you Canuks are involved in the oil industry. Demand is low, but it should pick up in a year or so. And should you make it down to Texas, I'll buy you a drink.
I-if we're lucky enough to survive the next 4 years at least we'll get a con majority again, no one will be stupid enough to vote for Trudeau yet again after he's run the country into the ground right?
let's be reasonable, guys, don't lose your minds here
the only thing Liberals are likely to do on firearms is the only thing they explicitly promised, which is repeal C-42 (which in all honesty wasn't that much of a positive leap anyway, just a tiny positive change)
that is IF they ever get around to passing anything on firearms (they don't have a huge hard-on for it like the NDP have) and that is a big IF. remember there aren't your experienced Chretien or Martin Liberals, this is the bottom of the barrel, suddenly stuffed with a pile of new back-benchers
considering this is an anti-Harper vote and not a pro-Trudeau one, public support isn't going to be too strong for Jay-Tea, and the moment he starts fucking up, people will remember why Concervatives weren't so bad after all -- and you know he's going to start fucking up soon, him, his platform and his entire party are all half-baked and completely not ready to actually run the country.
>tl;dr: let the population get this "change" bullshit out of their system, remember why Liberals are shit, let Cons restructure and regain public respect. in the next 2-3 years another scandal or major fuckup will force an election and we will be back to another decade of Conservative stability
JUST REALIZED THIS MEANS CANADA CANCELS THE F-35 ORDER!!!
Both Canadians and jingoists are getting cucked, what a motherfucking good day.
That's all fine and dandy, except for the part where he runs our country into the ground before he's kicked out. I'd prefer an option where our country isn't destroyed in the process.
>they explicitly promised
They explicitly promised to put firearms classifications in the hands of the national board of police chiefs and the coalition for gun control (women's groups, of which there is only the one run by Wendy Cukier who heads the CFGC).
What would be funny is if Trudeau hosts the "fair and transparent" fighter jet competition he promised, but is forced to let the F-35 participate you keep his promise, and then watch as it clearly wins. At that point he'll either have to go through some slimy bullshit to not choose the F-35 or concede and choose it.
The worst part is they're gonna just take them, they're not gonna give us any money back from them. Thousands of dollars down the drain because the libs hate you and they want you to know it.
If the libruls actually ban guns, do you think we'd even stand a chance of winning a 1v8 vs the RCMP goonsquads they'd be sending?
Maybe group up with friends to kill them all, but that's it, and even then, what can we do to actually combat a ban without a 2a to fall back on?
And in doing so they fuck over the airforce by choosing a shittier aircraft that will only be out-dated far sooner. But then again that's okay for them because "Canada is a peace keeping nation, we don't need a military with strong combat capabilities."
Hopefully. I would love to see the F-35 getting BTFO by Cold War rustbuckets that actually have working guns. Just thinking about the mass suicide of Lockmart shills from suck a debacle makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
>complaining you didn't win via technicality
Yeah yeah, we get it, conservatives hate democracy.
Now tell us all how you wish a political assassination, or violent coup, would happen to 'save us' from the liberals.
>Conservatives hate democracy
That's funny considering the Liberals and NDP claimed they'd coalition to fuck over any Conservative minority. Sure is democratic to fuck over the democratically elected government via a similar technicality!
Strategic voting is why the Liberals have so many seats. It's not that people actually believe in the Liberals or their platform, but rather that they just wanted Harper, the PM, out of government. Who needs to stick to their beliefs when you can get Mr Meany Head out of power.
But of course wishing physical harm on Harper and his family, wishing the assassination of Harper is completely okay. Because fuck Harper, y'know?
Yeah, I can't even keep track of how many times I've seen libtards wish harm upon others for simply being Conservative or disagreeing with them.
>which they've been complaining about for years now
where/when have you ever seen Liberals complaining about T97 or the ACR? the only thing they spread misinformation on is C-42, this was purely a political anti-Cons move and they will repeal it not because they hate guns or even know what the fuck C-42 is even about, just because they called it a bad policy, promised to repeal it and now they have a chance to, they will and will talk about making Canada safer for doing so. it's just politics, but they're not banking on the antis as hard as the NDP does, since unlike NDP, this isn't an important part of their core set of values
This is the 3rd time I've had to say it this thread, but a conservative minority would mean that the NDP and Liberals received more of the popular vote than them, and if they then formed a coalition there would be nothing undemocratic about it considering together they would represent a greater proportion of the Canadian people.
Also coalitions, while rare to the point of there only being one previous one in Canadian Federal politics, are not undemocratic. The very fact that it's an option in our electoral system testifies to that, not to mention that the history of coalition governments is much longer when Provincial governments are factored in.
And some of those provincial coalition governments have been between conservatives and other parties. So you tell me again, are coalition governments undemocratic?