Does anyone own the k31?
Ive been really thinking about buying one.
Hows the ammo? Any surplus?
Look at it this way, what do you think is better: a weapon made by mentally addled manlets, that was improved by snow fairies, or a weapon made by some of the most precise and skilled craftsmen in the world.
Most of the suppliers are out of stock currently but it'll be back. I figure it'll be a lot like 7.62x54R, in that as the Swiss rifles proliferate here in the US you'll see more ammo companies tool up for the cartridge. Might never be as cheap but you will be able to shoot them without too much hassle.
>$379.99 for 480 rounds of GP11
I'm sure it is flying off the shelf.
Depends. I like my finnish mosin more than I do my K31, but it just comes down to a matter of preference, and what you shoot better with.
Get a K31, and don't look back. It's a good excuse to get into handloading too. I don't see anyone really regretting their purchase of it.
GP11 ammo availability is spotty, but they don't really go up when they are available. They are imported a only few times a year and each time they come in they are available for a few months before running dry. The current "shortage" isn't anything new. GP11 ceased productions in the mid 90s I think, but the surplus we've been getting are still in the early 80s, so they should be available for a good while longer.
commercial ammo is available, thought its like 70 cpr instead of 50 cpr when SGammo has it.
Having both K31 and M39, well, I can't really say which I like more. The K31 isn't the most comfortable to shoot for me (it's fat and my tiny hands can't get a good grip), while the M39 is very ergonomic. The M39 sights are very precise though and harder to aim with my shit eyes. I shoot my K31 more though.
GP11 goes in and out of stock. I would buy about a thousand rounds at a time to make sure I can wait until it comes back at reasonable prices.
GP11 is still very popular in Switzerland. If it runs out the original equipment is still ready to restart production.
If you're still worried, get into a simple single stage reloader and reload Privi or GP11. GP11 is Berdan primed though so you'll need a special decapper and primers.
Yes, it's my favorite rifle.
A joy to shoot, and very accurate.
Buy one and refinish it.
I loved the one I got to shoot, but I need to stock up on another niche caliber like I need a hole in my head. Now if I could get my hands on one of the .308 rechambers, I'd be a happy man.
fuck anon.....that wood looks too good.
I wouldn't refinish my own K31. It has the troop tag, and I would like to leave it the way that Fritz left it. Maybe I'd refinish one without a troop tag to feel less guilty, but still.
They're incredibly rare, so unless you can find one already being sold, you have to have the work done. This is one of the names I've seen come up before but I'm sure there are others.
Worth mentioning for those who aren't familiar with GP11 is that it's a great factory load (one of the best), but it's easily surpassed even by an amateur reloader/handloader as most loads are.
AIM and Classic Firearms has them for almost the same price (if not the same). Classic seems like a better store, so I'd buy from them over AIM any day.
Holy shit, you're right. And they just got a shipment in yesterday. Stick around, it's possible they haven't got them all inventoried yet. Also, subscribe to their Youtube page, that's how I find out about all their new stuff.
I love it when people use my OC!
$40 from AIM. It was marked as one of their B-grade ones so the finish on the scabbard is a little worn, I don't care though. $60 for a nice looking one is a solid deal (and $100 for one with the original buckle-style frog but you probably aren't interested in that).
I have one, love it. Ammo has always been available if a little expensive but I'm used to paying more for shit just because Canada
I have a couple K31's and a k11 and they are my favorite surplus rifles. Most acurate surplus rifle I have ever shot, most reliable, and when you get the battle pack of surplus ammo it comes in a pouch and then smaller boxes instead of a spam can that takes forever to get into, and then having paper bundles falling appart.
Some spam cans are fun and takes less than a minute to open.
And for those with really deep pockets, the K-31's younger brother, the ZfK55 sniper rifle. Which apparently sells at upwards of $4500.
I believe Haemmerli sold 7.62 NATO K31s at some point. Not sure if they still do. I would be prepared to pay well over 1000 USD though.
GP11 is incredibly cheap when it gets imported though. For 58 cpr 7.62 NATO is usually total dogshit for accuracy.
Fucking love my k31, ammo is great, rifle is accurate, straight pull bolt is cool
Classic is allegedly a "christian" store yet they censor and delete ANY review with the slightest hint of negativity.
You could post a 3/5 star review and have about a 50% chance of it being published.
Fuck those kikes and their selective censorship.
Now you know why every gun is at least 4+ stars and why I dont buy from them anymore.
felt like punching the owner in his fat fuck face every time my honest and clean reviews got deleted or rejected.
They're serialized (as if I should have to point this out). The only reason I can imagine they were made removable was for easier servicing.
Load with a stripper clip/charger like any other military rifle.
You guys only receive the beaten up stuff.
I've bought from both, but in general AIM is a better business. Classic constantly feeds off FUD to spur sales and makes shit up to justify prices. Although I guess some of their bullshit did evetually come true a few years after (they were screaming about nuggets and food being increased in price at the exporter level around the end of 2012 early 2013. Which was bullshit at the time, but now prices for both have gone up pretty much 100%)
Customer service for both is good, but AIM is a bit better. I had issues with a PU scope and they actually contacted Vic Thomas (The nugget expert who appraises imports) for me. Classic customer service is nice the few times I've had to deal with them, and they did go the extra mile for me once by prioritize shipping for one of my orders so it gets to me before I leave for an extended trip. They issue is that they sometimes ignore emails or don't call back.
There are some issues with AIM for me, but it's the same issue classic has as well. Being in CA, both of them just refuses to sell certain stuff to CA despite it being legal.
If you actually want to have a choice, you buy fro one of the largest swiss rifle importers; simpson ltd.
what's all that jibber jabber on the receiver where the crest should be?
that's a nice looking gun, but I'm very well satisfied with my 1941 K31. it's not terribly beat up looking.
yeah too bad that one place is the only place that sells them
My funny looking K11 receiver.
this. Tho i am planning a euro trip once im done with school, so maybe I could stop by Switzerland for more than chocolate.
how would I get those shiny beauties back to burgerland, though.
Classic knowingly peddles bullshit rumors and sells junk rifles.
You can find okay deals and reasonable prices if you shop around their site but they also sell completely worthless and knowingly flawed rifles with BS brutus descriptions stating how great they are.
Them peddling bullshit is spot on, but the guns they sell are from the same sources as everyone else, unless you're talking about their AKs and ARs, then yes, the guns they push the most are from terrible or manufactures only they sell.
The latest thing I think was with Waffenwrk guns. Classic was selling old returned guns at a discount, and saying that it came with the full warranty. DDI stated that it's not true, they won't honor the warranty, and to not buy it. Classic did sort of force DDI to honor the warranty in the end though. It's good for the buyers in the end, but it was s dick move by classic to offer for sale shit and potentially non working and promise warranty without even talking to the manufacturer first.
Mine's Okay. I have a Walnut one. It's my least shot of the WW2 era rifles and while the action is novel, I didn't find it enjoyable. To each their own and it's a fine specimen to collect.
i have a k31 and k11. i was getting vertical flyers until i followed these instructions:
after installing spacers now i get 2 inch 10 shot groups. im satisfied.
Mojo sights are a waste of time and money. If you see one on the K31 it's a bad sign and you shouldn't buy it.
If you're referring to diopter sights where the rear sight is mounted near the bolt handle, those are worth about 400 USD alone.
A ton of changes. The K31 moves the bolt lugs to the front of the rifle, the sights start at 100m instead of 300m, the bolt handle is aluminum, the barrel is longer. The K31 also doesn't have a shim on the barrel bands unlike the K11.
The whole point of an aperture sight is to focus the incoming light and help align the front sight. Mojo sights only do the second half because they're too far away from the eye.
They're functionally identical to the notch. If you want better sights, either get optics or diopter sights.