I found this concept for a new LeMat revolver. I thought it was sexy as hell. The LeMat is in my opinion the most interesting of the percussion revolvers. You had 9 chambers in the cylinder and a 20 gauge underbarrel shotgun.
I'm not sure what this design would be chambered in.
I like it.
Post concept guns and the like! Concept ships, tanks, etc.
I know /k/ thinks submersible aircraft carriers are dumb but I still think it's awesome. And with VTOL still in its infancy who knows what the future holds.
I wish the artist drew a legit schematic for this.
I love schematics, deck layouts, etc.
Here's a concept I like. /k/ absolutely hates it. I think the flight deck would be slightly faster and more efficient than the flight decks of larger supercarriers. It would take a lot of training and drills to get it that way, though.
It's a conversion plan for civilian commerce ships. We've turned civvy ships into combat vessels before. I like the idea that we can beat our plowshares back into swords. I'm weird like that. I heard y'all say it would be cheaper to just build a new ship but I disagree. With modular construction and a well designed conversion kit, anything is possible.
To each their own.
People like you need to quit raining on others parades. A bunch of assholes rained on Caesar's parade and refused his triumph, and that's why the Roman Republic fell.
I'm an asshole myself and I lack the introspection to see my glaringly obvious flaws, but damn, dude... chill out and enjoy seeing others creations.
This is my favorite concept EVER.
We could have had this beast patrolling from Saturn to Earth 50 years ago.
It's weaponry capability was INSANE. It would be the most powerful vehicle ever built and we could have had it 50 years ago! There's a duplicate image, it's posted right here- >>27784265
You can read more about it here.
I love this concept. Mass produced 1911s that are so cheap you don't feel bad about scratching them up or neglecting them.
I love conceptual knives like this, things that aren't really massed produced... works of art.
It's a damn shame everything is illegal.
This is why we can't have nice things!!
Does this look any better??
Does the wood furniture do anything for you?
It was probably shit, but the idea to use a NATO caliber in a PDW-sized weapon just got me a little hard.
Here's an airsoft gun.
It's called the Goblin Deuce, IIRC.
I think it's a sexy idea.... a sawed off shotty that's basically a pistol.
Too bad the government will never let me have any nice things ;_; I guess they are lucky that they have people like me that they can steal whatever they want from and tell everyone that it's "confiscation" so it's cool.
The world needs more 1911s in .50AE.
It used to be a thing, now it's a dead idea.
I like the idea of high capacity handguns.
No, I'm not planning on shooting up a school... I just grew up watching the history channel and believe soldiers need to have a decent sidearm.
I really love the Kel Tec PMR 30 as a concept that can be improved. .22 WMR isn't a gun I could see troops taking to war and most ammo for it doesn't have a powder formula meant for short barrels so it shoots fireballs...
But a pistol with a 30 round magazine flush with the grip? Yessss.
I also don't think quad stack mags are used as much as they should be. Putting a steel piece between the stack making it so it's like two double stack mags improves reliability and makes it feed reliably.
Sidearms are pretty much dress accessories but I believe pistols still have their necessary place as a backup.
This is a M1-L1 triple pulse rifles used by the Chinese military in the movie "Deep Rising". It has a thousand round helical magazine.
I think a .22 bullet with a "minie ball style" hollow base filled with some kind of combustible plastic explosive that needed electronic ignition would work.. it wouldn't need cartridges and its a water cooled minigun with three barrels so it could send out ridiculous amounts of high speed dakka without overheating.
I don't think you could fit a full thousand rounds in there but they would basically be 3 times shorter and less wide than a cartridge bullet.
You would probably be able to get a few hundred rounds in there easily, though.
Here's another idea I like. Sandbag furniture for military bases. That way if they suddenly need a lot of sandbags, they already have them! And that way they have a place to sit instead of having to stand all the time.
Also I live in a flood zone and national guard bases NEED to have tons of these things in reserve.
It would definitely help.
Would HESCO bastions make good levees?
Maybe wearable armor and a 75mm canon like some mechamusume sorta thing?
no once you use the sand bag it will start to degrade, especially if its seeing constant wear of furniture, not to mention once there is a hole it it (you'd be surprised how quickly) there will be sand/dirt inside
Personally I love the idea of .30 caliber bullpups. I used to be a history channel fanatic and back then it was "ALL HITLER! ALL THE TIME!!" And .30 caliber was the standard rifle caliber back then.
I love the FNAR too.
As far as I'm concerned with PDWs, the P90 is the golden standard.
I understand the trend towards smaller calibers with faster velocities, but will we be shooting .177s at 5000FPS one day? There's gotta be some kind of curve to it.
Did you know there was a plan to remove one of the turrets on an Iowa and install a hangar and crane for 8 harriers? Honestly I thought it already had enough room for 8 harriers.
This is /k/, everything is a ridiculous idea for anything combat related.
You could just get a can of spray on rubber for the top layer of sandbags if it was that important.
This is probably the best concept I've ever seen.
I've seriously considered spamming every government agencies email I could find because of this picture.
It could double the capacity of pretty much every weapon we have.
The A-10 could have TWICE as much BRRRRT.
60 round STANAG mags would be STANDARD.
This idea right here is pure gold.
I LOVE PAINTED GUNS.
I'll post a few. It's so easy to do, also. This pic looks professional but a few cans of spray paint and fishnet stockings are all you need IRC.
I much prefer the Brastil 1911. Sexy AF
That one looks kinda gross... But I think I understand the attraction.
Probably wouldn't have enough force to break a wrist, but I doubt it would be useful for anything other than belly sticking.
For some reason I just now got excited for the new game... But I wasn't until now... Weird.
Reminds me of the Matchgun MG3. The tiny tube under the barrel is the magazine
scifi guns incoming!
The biggest issue would be troubleshooting the cycling.
It's a very small price to pay to double the ammo capacity of every American soldier and vehicle that uses bottlenecked cartridges.
I think another great idea is sharply fluted chambers and extractors so violent they mangle brass. That way the enemy can't salvage our brass and use it against us.
Raphial Morgado's QT .427 ZMR
The bullet it the brass so there's nothing to eject
Yea, it would take a little longer to seal though so you'd probably need to add an extra grain or two in the powder charge to get indistinguishable performance from bottleneck rounds.
The biggest issue would be troubleshooting the feeding and extraction to make it as reliable as bottleneck cartridges. They would probably have to shoot off 50,000 rounds and experiment on a few rifles before they got it right.
Even so, it's a very small price to pay to DOUBLE the ammo carrying capacity of every soldier without adding any weight.
I dont even care how unrealistic this is, if I could only have 1 gun, unf
As I recall the main issues with this were pressure and heat dissipation to the point where you would have to design a gun around the round to be worth it. Potentially not that hard, especially with the advances in technology of recent years, but I think we're closer enough to caseless and telescopic munitions that the Army/whoever decided to skip this.
Here's his website.
The C-mags curve is too tight for .223 though.
You should check out his other designs.
He's got a .50BMG concept gun with no barrel... a bit of an undersight, methinks. But look at his vehicle concept. Those torsion bars are INSANE. He's crazy stupid or crazy smart lol
I'm spent unless you guys want spacy plane garbage, armor doodads and other assorted concept snippets I've gathered.
I love bullpup .50BMGs. The GM6 Lynx has a reciprocating barrel that's pure sex. There's another .50BMG bullpup called "Leader" or whatever... but they both only have 10 round mags. I can't have that. Barret is still the beast in the .50BMG market but they cannot into aesthetic bullpup design!
I think that is a load of bullshit.
But whatever, I'm not in charge.
Not penetration. It would still be firing a standard caliber bullet with pretty standard weight. I was thinking of using some type of electronically ignited plastic explosive... something much more powerful than powder.
Accuracy... It would have standard barrel length so burst fire would have decent accuracy... yes anything shooting full auto will have poor accuracy but think of the fire suppression that one soldier could provide! Carrying around a little water cooled minigun with a few thousand rounds on his person...
The military has been promising us the future soldier for decades but they just aren't delivering and until they do I'm going to keep being the armchair dictator I am and let my imagination enjoy itself.
If American superiority has peaked and we're on the way down, FUCK YOU if you won't let me enjoy my stupid childish fantasies.
...isn't that the biggest design flaw?
It's pretty much entirely made from space magic and yes it's designed to blow dust and dirt through its action but that's the least of its problems if the ammo won't fit or feed.
>that mercedes buggy
oh hey it already exists
part of the jewish conspiracy mang
I can't wait till there is some demo of what it can do
I can't wait till [spoiler]it's in Armored Warfare[/spoiler]
allegedly it has four wheel steering and can actually move sideways... like a crab
it's not amphibiousthough, unlike the VBL
I think all police and military should get a gun like this after 10-20 years of service.
Something painted in their unit colors with their number, badge, etc and unit mascot or something..
I think that would be a great idea and that they would make amazing heirloom pieces. It beats a piece of paper with some generic thank you.
pretty legit load out for a concept artist here.
These are concept submarines meant to land vehicles. They would surface a little while away from the beach, make a landing, and drop the ramp to let out tanks, APCs, missile platforms, howitzers, etc.
best walking tank design I've seen, because it appears it's primarily a tracked tank that walks when shit gets complicated.
Here's a close up.
I posted those two pics of subs at the top.
I'm fond of submarines :3
>tfw no co-op, open world dystopian future vidya where you and your buddies explore deserted planets and hunt bounties in poverty ridden future cities to earn money and upgrade your sweet spaceship
feels fucking bad man
I think a legit autoloading crossbow would dominate the market.
I'm sure there are lots of seniors that can't really bow hunt easily anymore, too.. so this would help them if they are too weak to draw a bow themselves.
Plus, it's a COMPOUND compact automatic crossbow.
I'd love to see the internals and mechanics behind it.
Too bad I'm not smart enough to make one myself.
I have such a severe case of the dumb that I should be quarantined.
actually hyper early concept art for "The division" when they were still getting the date down.
If Americans ever get to go to space again, I hope they get sexier suits.
Here's a legit OICW. One of the prototypes IIRC.
I wish they would just build a functional pulse rifle from Aliens... 100 round magazine? 4 round pump action grenade launcher? It's modular so you can swap the launcher for a shotgun?
WHY haven't we done this yet? All the OICW concepts I've seen look like jokes?
Has Jesus come back and we've had to turn our swords to plows and nobody bothered telling me?
Seriously what is going on, guys? I'm getting upset.
They did. Spotter planes I think. There's a neat history channel documentary about it, but they were hyping it up trying to make it seem like it was a superweapon when it wasn't.
I am trying to get rid of the lies in my life and I'm trying to get all the bullshit out of my mind..... I'm not sure what's real and what's fake anymore dude.
Because you can only lighten and compact it so much. The Chinks and Koreans are fielding their own iterations and they still weight as much as a SAW. The Americans went down the far more sensible route of keeping the weapons separate, hence the XM25 punisher, which is apparently extremely well liked, while i suspect it wouldn't be as well received if there were the added bulk of 2 kilos of carbine strapped to the front.
Space Activity Suits can provide slim, mechanical compression. Some high-flex areas like the crotch and hands may need air pressure because the compression fabric won't hold properly while allowing movement. Skin is naturally airtight and doesn't actually need air. Helmets will still be a bit clunky though.
Look at this. It's the KelTec SU-16C and it's lightweight and compact as fuck. It's like an AR and AK had a baby and the baby had the best of both worlds.
You could stick a pump action grenade launcher under it, or just mount an underbarrel shotgun with 12 gauge grenades, stick a super fancy scope on it, and it would be an OICW.
If you wanted smart ammo you could make smart grenades and do that.
BOOM. Compact, easy, does the same shit as the OICW in the other pic I posted.
Steyr is one of the most underrated firearms companies out there.
Especially the Steyr M9A1.
It's better than the Glock in practically every way, it has all the improvements on it one of the Glock designers wanted to implement IIRC and if what I've read is true.
Plus it's sights are amazing and great for fast target acquisition.
Yes it is.
Top breaks have a bad reputation because the last time they were popular handguns were made with wrought iron and people shooting hot ammunition from reproductions might have something to do with it.
>SU-16C and it's lightweight and compact as fuck.
It also breaks and is held together with screws. It would be nice for backpacking gun but not for a military use gun. Something made of aluminum and carbon fiber would be a better lightweight gun.
I do think that a pump action OICW would be nice. Bigass shotguns already exist, like the KS-23 in 23mm (pretty close to the 20mm and 25mm that the mil was working with). Pump-forward shotguns are pretty compact too, if you want it on the front like an underslung. Something like the GM-94 or the Idaho Breaching Shotgun (pic related)
I've got no idea what this is or what video game it's from
And I know it's pretty stupid looking to y'all...
But this is awesome and nothing you can say will change my mind about that.
> just mount an underbarrel shotgun with 12 gauge grenades, stick a super fancy scope on it, and it would be an OICW.
>If you wanted smart ammo you could make smart grenades and do that.
Surely you can't be this retarded.
I don't think the SU-16 design is all that great. Placing the spring around the piston is neat and saves some space but the reliability is reported to be not great, there's no dustcover and the charging handle is on the right, and the way the fore-end grips and rails attach is mediocre as well. It was really just designed to be light and cheap.
The military could take their regular ARs and replace the buffer tube and quadrail with carbon fiber parts. It would be very light weight and not very expensive. I really like the barrel nut design of the AR, it make is easy for manufactures to fit their rails and tubes. It doesn't work so well with piston guns though, because pistols are usually quite large and would make a threaded barrel nut absolutely huge. Works better on the AR with its tiny gas tube that can pass through a hole in the barrel nut.
I love that idea. I'm stealing it. Tell Alex I only steal from the best. But only tell him after he's done making awesome designs... I don't want my theft to upset him so much that he stops making such sexy guns.
Oh yea, because NOBODY ELSE thought of this before him? I'm sure he pays money to the people that invented all the other aspects of his firearms, right? NOPE. He makes sexy looking guns but we have all stood on the shoulders of giants to get where we are.
My understanding is that it's action is based off the AK which is why there's no dust cover.
If the moving parts are based off the AK, no amount of dust should be an issue.
But then again, .223 isn't as powerful as whatever the Russians used and that recoil force might help eject debris... so maybe it needs hotter loads?
are the Russians bring back the concept?
Not really. Pic related. The bolt carrier isn't anything in particular. The piston is kind of AK-ish. The way the gas tube and recoil spring attach and disassemble is quite novel, I really like Kelgren's ingenuity there. The bolt is very AR-15-ish and takes AR-15 extractors. Some dudes on a Kel-Tec forum reported that polishing the bottom of the bolt carrier increases reliability, so I assume there's a fair amount of friction in there, and surfaces that dirt could muck up. Replacing the extractor with a stock AR-15 extractor also reportedly helps reliability, probably just cheap manufacturing there.
5.56 is just about even with 5.45. AKs are really overgassed compared to ARs and that does help ejection. So does the huge extractor that AKs have. I wouldn't do that with an SU-16 though, the breaking issue with the SU-16 is the part of the upper receiver breaking off.
I realize that it made it into limited production, but ever since I saw the travesty that was the second Matrix, the COP .357 just seemed fucking cool to me.4 rounds of .357 in fuck-off size.
Regardless of all that shit the way the stock can fold around a STANAG 30 rounder without impeding the handle, trigger, and operations is downright amazing.
The SU-16C is the kind of rifle airmen should have in their survival kits. Not some POS .22 rimfire.
It's amazing how these so called "concept artists" have barely any idea how firearms work apart from "IT LOOKS COOL GUISE DON'T IT"
I mean, basic things like bolt travel distance, ergos and bore axis are unbeknownst to them beyond copying existing weapon designs and adding new textures/features to look futuristic.
>.50BMG from no barrel
What kind of velocity would that get? Enough to leave a bruise at least?
I have no idea and truthfully I hope they never do.
America's greatest defenses from invasion are the Atlantic and Pacific oceans.
The way the government and military works is jackasses like me can't just walk in to the Pentagon and find out if we have defense systems in place to screen for modern stealth submarines. I don't think they would let me in on whatever secret tech they have, if any.
I'm sure they are so busy with their valuable taxpayer funded jobs that they wouldn't be able to answer my questions, you know? It's got to be a busy job keeping America safe from bankrupt third world nations.
Jesus Christ I hope we calm our shit down before the rest of the world makes 9/11 look like a scraped knee... seriously.
We went to war with Japan about sneaking in an attack. We're kinda at war with Mexico and south America for sneaking in drugs. Our prison system is basically an internment camp.
NOBODY respects our laws not even Americans. I hate on the government from time to time but if they don't have a last ditch game play to keep America relevant and righteous I'd be disappointed in them just like I'd be disappointed if they don't still have a plan to invade Canada.
what's the deal with the trigger guard? and why does the trigger look like it belongs on a 1911? Why does it have engravings? they offer no tactical advantage whatsoever.
I do like the concept, but the design is hideous.
That's a terrible idea.
I mean for what purpose? You want to cats to be parallel so that you can launch multiple aircraft into the wind at once, so that's a shitty idea.
Having two non-parallel landing runways isn't particularly useful either. It would be a good idea on a land-bound airport because you could land/take off closer to windward, but that's irrelevant on a carrier because you can physically *move* it into the wind.
IS GOOD IDEA IVAN
CAN OF SHOOT ENEMY AND ENEMY NOT SHOOT YOU
A 12 gauge projectile can hold as much explosives as a 40mms grenade.
We have the technology to make those smart grenades to detonate overhead like those 20mm fancy ammos used by other OICWs.
The recoil is light enough to be handed by a collapsible stock.
School children have CALCULATORS with more processing power than the Apollo 11 crafts!
What about my post was offensive to you?
It's more of an art project than an actual gun concept from what I can tell.
It's kinda like a D-guard bowie.. it's an obvious homage to our Civil War heritage. The D-guard serves no real purpose, but Civil War bowie knives had them sometimes and that's the only time bowies had them...
Kinda like the LeMat revolver was pretty much only used by Americans during the Civil War, and it's the only time American troops had a pistol with an underbarrel shotgun.
It's just subtle charm and respecting history.
Yea, it needs more cats.
I would have done something like this, though.
It would be able to launch 8 fighters faster than any carrier on the planet, and even more if it has VTOLS.
I would also include much more missiles and some DAKKA, but thats just personal preference I didnt want to draw in paint.
I am so unskilled with computers its actually kinda sad.
Not that guy, but you're asking for the FRAG-12, an already anemic explosive load that nobody (not even police forces or joke countries) considers worthwhile, to have half its projectiles insides replaced with electronics. The outcome would be firework-tier weak to the point of useless.
Our 40mms grenades have MUCH less explosives than you think.
You could fit the same amount inside a 12 gauge shell.
With miniaturization tech I'm sure you could make effective electronics that are tiny as fuck.
It looks like it'd work if you fixed the hinging so its the proper top cover plate with rails around it fixed to the frame. And whatever the box sight thing is, that needs work.
Pretty easy to salvage machine shotgun.
Also anyone else notice he forgot the barrel hole in the wall for the chamber?
Love this one from pavellkid.deviantart.com/
>Why does it have engravings? they offer no tactical advantage whatsoever.
Because it looks nice, you mongoloid. Everything doesn't have to be tactical. Every gun doesn't just come in "tactical black" and "tactical khaki".
I was going to meme on you, but I realized, holy shit, I remember that.
Colt single action army, yeah, you'd get a LOT of money for an authentic engraved one.
Anyways watch the first minute and the line is there. I can't believe I forgot it. MGS3 was a really fun game. Haven't played MGSV though, but from what some /k/ommandos have been saying is that the guns are 'good enough' but still a lot of bullshit. But then again everything is bullshit in MGS, that's the appeal.
God, I fucking hate those super-hyper-over designed pieces of shit. It takes all the effort and skill out of shooting. I can see everyone using an Olympic-Grade pistol, but not some .22 monstrosity like those rifles. Give everyone a super-tight tolerance HK or something. >>27785284
Why does the limit f(fuck you)
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approach infinity as I scroll righ.x --> capthca
Yes. That's the point of Railguns. Tiny goddamn projectiles fired at ridiculous speed. Ekin = 1/2mv^2. Essentially, the kicker is speed. If you increase mass, you gain a linear increase in kinetic energy. You increase the velocity and suddenly you're unleashing hell in tiny lead forms.
Kind of why the 5.7/4.6mm have such serious merit. The p90 and Mp7 aren't just gimmicks.
You're the same faggot thats spouted this before. No modern or historical military has ever policed brass from a battlefield to reload, recycle, or reuse.
Any army that has to rely on picking up the enemies spent munitions off the battlefield is fucked. Logistics win wars.
This is all assumming you're going to war with someone with the same standardized ammunition as you. If your enemy doesn't use the same round, what's the fucking point of picking up brass? You could melt it down and recast, but seriously, your bullshit mangling brass idea doesn't do shit at that point.
Ive actually had a play around with it on an M16 and it was just fucking dogshit
builds forearm muscle at least
Plastic explosives are too brisant to use as ballistic propellant--it would "cut" through the projectile if it is shaped (or release a jet of ionized gas if the projectile is copper) and it would slice a gun to bits if unshaped. If the weapon could take a plastic explosive (current ones at least) it would wear out quickly.
Looks cool as shit. Like a cobbled-together resistance weapon.
> Have some slick shit nao
I think cold blueing your brass is a great idea for long term storage as well as lacquering the primer and bullet.
It'll resist corrosion better, won't it?
I think it's a GREAT idea for preppers to blue your brass and use nail polish to lacquer the primer and bullet.
>It'll resist corrosion better, won't it?
I guess. Brass is already pretty good at ignoring corrosion. Keep it dry and it'll last longer than you will. The varnish is a good idea, though.