I'm looking to get a rifle to keep in my car just in case SHTF on my way home from work. Assuming this kind of gun should be as light and simple as possible what does /k/ recommend
AK pistol with sig brace. I have a zastava pistol with a sig brace I use as my truck gun. With red dot and everything it only cost me 650. It's super reliable. Easy to operate. And it's accurate to at least 100 yards with the red dot sighted at 50
Right side of the pic. AR or AK. Keep it in a lock box and bolted to your vehicle to prevent theft. Also, know your state laws as well as your neighboring state laws just incase you get pulled over. Finally get a CCW Permit that has reciprocity in yours and your neighboring states.
>AK with 5 mags and a pistol (Sig Sauer P228) with 3 mags.
Key factor though, you do not want to look like you have shit. That AK, if someone has a team or balls to take you on, is a valuable asset to have. I'd keep it at the pistol level and a 3-5 day survival pack.
Fuck wrong pic, someone's got the budget guns list. Apparently I can't load it up because 4MB limit.
>I'm looking to get a rifle to keep in my car just in case SHTF on my way home from work.
Where do you live that you need a rifle in your car? Kabul or Aleppo?
CCW a 13+ round pistol. Keep a spare loaded mag in your car, two if you feel things are going to get bad. Congrats, you're ready to get home if SHTF while you're away.
>keeping guns in the car
>arming car thieves
>arming thieves who just break into the car
>thinking you'll ever have an appropriate time to use it that wouldn't better be handled with a high-capacity pistol
I like rifles a lot but OP this is poor logic on your part.
>I'm looking to get a rifle to keep in my car just in case SHTF on my way home from work.
>SHTF on my way home from work
Why? A Desert Eagle is far more effective, especially when paired with your totally sick parkour moves.
Well, my dad said he always used to keep a Browning SA-22 under his seat in its broken down form. That way if he was driving along and saw some groundniggers, he'd pull up, assemble the rifle, and remove them.
Every pickup truck owner I know keeps a gun somewhere in the truck.
>Not cashing in on Americas zombie and survival fad to make guns cooler and get more people to buy more guns thereby strengthening our gun rights
Bloomberg shills git out
Fuck you faggot. It's none of your business why someone wants a gun. If anything, YOU'RE what degrades the gun community, because you're being bitchy and choosy over what is a proper "reason" to have a gun.
Anyone who wants a gun for a lawful purpose is a good member of the community.
It was a reference to the Glocknade meme which implies a high chance of destructive failure. Much like the Gen 1 Glock 22 40cal, early SU16 design flaws led to incidents where the exploded. These were corrected later.
I know it is made by Kel-Tec, I have one and it's on the receiver.
>Maintaining a positive image of gun owners
>suggesting that everyone run around with rifles and shotguns in their pickup like a rolling fortress in case 'Muh habbenings that totally happen every day :DDDDD'
Fuck you and your ultimatums. He didn't suggest anything. He stated that someone legally owning a firearm is a good member of the community.
It literally has no effect on you if OP puts his rifle in the vehicle. Fuck off.
I keep a rifle in my car, not for rampaging niggers but because coyotes are a problem on my farm (they've effectively killed off all the quail, pheasant, and foxes, and are currently working on driving skunks extinct).
To that end, I've got a Mossberg MVP Varmint that I've converted to a toolless switchbarrel (IE, I can gorilla-mitt the double barrel nut tight enough for MOA accuracy without fucking up the headspace, and the barrel's removable so the whole thing's only 22" long).
I keep both a .300blk 16" barrel, and a .204 Ruger 22" barrel for it in my truck. I drive a TRD Tacoma and it's got storage behind the back seat, where I was able to bolt a lockable mounting bracket that holds the stock and both barrels vertically while still allowing the seat to sit right.
I imagine someone could do similarly with an AR (just take the upper off) or a folding-stock AK.
I have a small pistol and IWB holster in my glove box for a few reasons
>in case I have the occasion to go to a rough neighborhood and feel like carrying it
>if I see a wounded animal that's been hit by a car and want to humanely let it die (have done this a few times to horrifically-wounded deer)
>if I'm sitting in a parking lot eating some fast food (like on a road trip) and some dindu comes up and tries to mug/carjack me (this has happened)
>if someone roadrages out and follows me home because I accidentally cut them off (this has also happened)
I just happen to be the guy that statistically improbable shit happens to all the time. I've been mugged three times, twice at gunpoint. Had my house broken into. Had crazies follow me home off the highway and try to start a fight. Had a guy hit and run my car, and then when I followed him while calling the cops he pulled over and started getting aggressive.
I don't even live in a shitty town/part of town, I dunno why this stuff happens to me all the time but it does and that's why I have a gun in my car. Everyone's circumstances are different, my man.
Except thats not what OP was saying you fucking faggot. You're putting words in his mouth. People have guns in their car all the time that are hidden and nobody ever knows they're there except the owners.
>looking to get a rifle to keep in my car
>just in case SHTF
>all these people who carry/suggest rifles
What was that? Care to elaborate on what this thread is about then?
>nobody ever knows they're there except the owners.
Because thieves need probable cause to break into a vehicle, when they now know that every idiot with a half-ton pickup keeps at least one rifle/shotgun inside.
Yeah, luckily I live in Georgia.
Every time shit like that goes down I thank my lucky stars (what few of them there are) that I don't live in some shit hole state or, worse, Europe, where my only recourse would be to drop my pants, spread my ass cheeks for my assailant, and hope they spit first
Welp it sure is a good thing we live in America, where the only reason one needs to carry a rifle around with them in their car is "because I feel like it, faggot".
Also, has it ever occurred to you that maybe, just maybe, people don't leave the rifle in the car at all times, and take it back inside with them when they get home? Crazy novel concept to wrap your head around, I know
> people don't leave the rifle in the car at all times
>take it back inside with them when they get home
Get home from what, work? Where it will sit under the back seat for 8 hours with nobody keeping an eye on it?
That is a novel concept, my head is thoroughly wrapped around it now anon. You sure know what you're doing.
Yeah, where it will sit under the seat while you're at work.
Here's another novel and brain - melting idea: if you work somewhere that your employer doesn't provide for the security of your car and its contents while you're there, you might want to get a better job.
Or, if you work out in the middle of nowhere where on site security is not feasible, congratulations you're fine unless a raccoon manages to jimmy your locks and figure out how to operate your rifle, because there's nobody else around to steal it.
Yeah, good luck getting my rifle out of its locked bracket without a pneumatic angle-grinder.
Sorry to break your little fantasy, but contrary to your belief there really aren't that many literal retards with guns AND vehicles.
>implying keeping a pistol in the unlocked and/or pryable-with-pocket-knife glove box is somehow better than keeping a rifle literally bolted to the frame behind a seat that doesn't actually move in most vehicles
You're a special kind, aren't you?
>change your job because you can't take your rifle to work
>being such a raging autist that you let tools define your life
They can steal the vehicle, sure.
But they will need chop-shop tier power tools to remove the rifle from the vehicle without rendering it permanently incapable of firing.
How is that any worse than keeping them in your house in a gun safe? They're not 100% guaranteed to never be stolen in a safe, even in a top-of-the-line one.
You also failed to address how you seem A-OK with people leaving pistols in obvious, unlocked locations in a vehicle, but not locked up rifles.
I repeat, you're a special kind, aren't you?
>Rifle for car gun
>Have to get out of car to use rifle
>Get out of car
I don't understand this logic. Keep a hand gun in your car, fire, floor it, and get the fuck out of there.
>leaving pistols in obvious, unlocked locations
>implying pic related cannot be defeated with minimal/no damage to the weapons
You can CC a pistol and bring it with you, and not leave it in the car like a literal retard.
Rifle owners who don't use the bare minimum locking devices are asking to have their shit stolen, end of story.
>chop shop tier tools
Harbor Freight exists in every poor part of every city in America, good luck defeating those red-hot bargains on torches, cutters, and pneumatic tools.
Gonna be the redman here.
>what if the vehicle is dead (out of gas, EMP, flat tires, wrecked, etc)?
>what if the vehicle's blocked in a la Katrina mass-exodus and you have the choice of sit there in your car and be 100%-guaranteed-kill or hoof it and risk it?
>what if you're being engaged by a vehicle/people with rifles/etc where going 60mph doesn't mean you won't get hit repeatedly?
There are usage cases for both pistols and rifles.
Good luck using a torch or die grinder on literally any vehicle mount without chewing the shit out of the gun badly enough it either won't fire or would be extremely unsafe to fire.
>didn't say shit about people leaving pistols under seats or in glove boxes, totally unsecured and/or breachable with a fucking ballpoint pen, pocket knife, pocket prybar, random piece of scrap wood, etc
>still flips shit about the thought of leaving a rifle in a locked, concealed mount
>talks about pistols
>posts a pic of a police long gun rack
Just how fucking retarded are you?
>less than two months ago
>want to get my no-guns brother a good beginners rifle. something user friendly, practical, and simple, with good ergonomic features and cheep ammo to boot
>budget of $600
>decide on VZ-58
>starter pack with rifle plus several mags and stripper clips only about $500
>a little more expensive than im told it used to be, but damn, that's still a great deal for a pretty great gun
>brother drags his feet because he doesn't have the money yet
>fast forward six weeks and a couple of mass shootings
>VZs are now hard to find, and the price of the rifle alone without any excessories is nearly $1,000.00
HOLY FUCK I'M MAD
so are there any good centerfire rifles left in the <$600 range left that are fun to shoot and easy to maintain, inline with the patrol rifle 'philosphy of use' left?
if not, is it even possible to find a Mini 14 in 6.8 for around $750?
Then you die in all scenarios for being that faggot who got caught outside during SHTF.
>it happens so fast!
No it doesnt.
So you're saying that the choice of gun is irrelevant because if you put yourself in a scenario where you'd need anything more than your underwear you're as good as dead 100% of the time?
Okay, it's pretty obvious this thread is full of literal retards.
>Have you done zero research or you hung up on "slavshit is best shit"?
my brother does not want an AR 15. and a walmart quality AR 15 for only $500 would be a waste of money
>bought the Century VZ kit with 5 mags and bayo for $499 about a year ago
>it was a total piece of shit, had to send it back for canted sights, stovepiped or just straight failed to go into battery constantly, couldn't hit shit with it when it did decide to work
>sold it a few weeks ago for $800 with full disclosure of all the issues I'd had with it, guy didn't even care
>mfw 60% ROI in under a year on a POS gun
>implying a firearm made in Czechoslovakia is not slav
>country it comes from literally has slav in the name
You didn't say shit about him not wanting an AR.
Not my fault your brother's retarded.
Oh, so now I was supposed to somehow magically divine that you were implying literally everybody who breaks into cars is an experienced metal fabricator with half a million dollars worth of shop tools at their disposal?
Way to move the goalposts. You're an Olympic-level goalpost mover.
>literally putting yourself in harm's way
>expecting anything more than getting killed
Nothing can stop you from proving Darwinism right with that attitude.
>he went to college and makes more than you
>better remind everyone
Listen to the man who's smarter than you and accept that even the most skilled metal worker will completely fuck up a gun while trying to free it with an angle grinder from a latch lock.
you sound like someone who just wants to feel superior by insinuating that you're better for owning an AR. Take your inferiority complex somewhere else if you're not going to be helpful
I never said the AR was better, I simply said it was the only decent thing currently available in the $500 price bracket.
I mean, with how things currently are, you have a choice of a $350 SKS, a $500 AR, or an $800+ AR or AK.
That $100 angle grinder will need a $100 air hose, a $500 air filter/dryer/oil catch, an $800+ >15gal compressor, a 3-phase power source (not really found in pretty much any house, it's pure industrial wiring) and more than 30 square feet of concrete slab to place it all on.
Did you seriously think they made angle grinders capable of cutting anything other than soft aluminum that ran on fucking DeWalt 18v battery packs or something?
That's just to cut the bracket some time this week.
To get into the vehicle without completely destroying it will be another couple grand worth of tools OR a decade plus of experience and a couple hundred in tools.
Your average car thief smashes a window on a car he -knows- the keys are in, and drives off. The ones that are actually capable of hotwiring a vehicle made after 1999 won't even fucking care if there's a gun in it, they want the high-end SUV's and sports cars because they're worth orders of magnitude more than what the cars contain.
I just think he's implying you're a dirty pleb, which you are.
>Mfw young hot successful guy driving a Porsche and can leave a gun in a car without worrying of it being stolen due to our armed security at the office garage.
This. I have never had my truck broken into or stolen, because it is an old POS, I always lock up, and I drive around generally ok areas. I would feel 100% comfortable keeping something like an under folder AK in my toolbox or under back seat
There is only one way to have weapons in your vehicle...
FiveSeven/PS90 30 end clipazines for the pistol fifty rounders for the bullpup. PDW and pistol shoot same ammo.
>"Uh oh, my car died with everyone elses in the road! Better start killing people!"
You're a dipshit if you think that's how people will react to an EMP or something on the first day before you can make it back home. 90% of the deaths on the first day will be from fatasses having heart attacks trying to walk back home.
By what, negro? Bees?
If there is anything swarming outside my car, people included, I'm just going to drive through it regardless of what kind of gun I have.
Who's to say I don't have rifle in my trunk and a pistol in my glove box?
>leave your autism off this board
>not realizing keeping a rifle in your car "incaes SHTF" is autistic
>actually supporting the idea of buying a designated firearm to keep in your car