So I am a fedora wearing, neck beard and I discovered this site 30 minutes ago.
I know jack shit about steel, Don't even know if I can trust the reviews, but I was wondering how good is 9260 vs 1060 vs 1095 steel is for a blade? Will the swords be durable? What quality do you think these will be?
Full tang isn't the only feature you want to look for. Some Chinashit swords are full tang but made of weak or brittle steel. Go with the Cold Steel Katana if you want a fully functional beginner sword.
Forgive my ignorance, but it site says I can get a blade made out of 9260 spring steel, for around 300. Is that about the right price?
Looking at cold steel, they use a 1055 steel. If that site is true how is 9260 vs a 1055 steel?
I honestly don't know much about steels, generally I go by prices which is a tad fucked, but its what I do.
At 200-300, you're looking at an entry level piece, the difference is business wise when people start saying "custom made" they tend to charge more for what you get because of the labor involved, whether it's fair or not, it's just a thing.
You can get a Paul Chen for around the same price, that's directly marketed as an entry level piece, they make no grand custom claims, it's quick and it works, so you tend to get more bang for your buck versus some "custom" piece.
It doesn't matter for a beginner.
Spring steel is more flexible. It's in the name. 1055 doesn't flex as much. I find that 1055 steel retains the edge longer on knives. In the end, it is pointless maximization and minimization a beginner should not worry about.
Steel doesn't even tell a full story. It's the tempering that matters. You can still have a spring steel sword that is brittle as glass.
Save yourself from the meaningless steel classifications and just get a cheap beginner sword.
Ya...that is where I saw the site from too, it looks fucking awesome, but most of the reviews are 4-5 stars, which makes me worried that they are not showing the bad reviews.
What is a good price for a starter sword? I want to believe that they are good nature chinamen willing to make a quality product for cheep.
Sorry again, what is a Paul chen, and how much do they run?
fittings are free, which is interesting. That leaves the question, how good is their swords? If their 9260 swords is as good as cold steel, and Paul chens shit, I would rather have custom shit on it.
>Do you have experience with Paul chen? What is your opinions on their swords?
As said before, entry level, nothing fancy, what you see is what you get and it's really advertised as such. It works though, that's what's important as you learn proper striking.
Anyone ever bought a sword from Lutel? I heard they can't ship swords past the length of their Katzbalgers.
I probably will do that.
looking more at them, it is overwhelmingly positive reviews. That is either a good sign or a bad sign, fucking hell it looks awesome. Key word is "looks". I need to see their refund policy. Has any one gone through them yet? Or should I risk it?
the return policy looks interesting.
We offer a 100% money-back guarantee if for any reason you are not satisfied, for 30 days after your purchase. We will offer replacement, reshipment, or refunds to make sure you are fully satisfied with your order.
To be eligible for a return, your item must be unused and in the same condition that you received it.
You will be responsible for paying for your own shipping costs for returning your item, unless it's our mistake
If you are shipping an item over $75, you should consider using a trackable shipping service or purchasing shipping insurance.
Understand that live blades are for cutting, if you don't intend to start doin some tameshigiri, practically it won't really help you.
Unless you just want a live blade for the sake of it.
I want it for the sake of it. I want a "real" sword, one with "practical" applications. That could cut shit with out problems. One that would last. Not one that is indestructible perse, but a unique piece that is cool.
But knowing that, If I am going to do mall ninja shit, ill get a wood blade.
Integrity, blade retention. It's like what makes a good optic a good optic. Anything can zero in on a point, but to zero in, stand explosions, user errors, and shooting for tens of thousands of rounds while still holding that zero, that's some quality.
A katana can cut, any sharpened steel can cut decently, but if it holds its edgy, resists shock for cuts you fuck up, or blades / weapons it comes in contact with and continues to perform, the fitting are well made and withstand the inevitable loosening from us, and are designed to easily add more seppa should the fittings start to loosen, all are good signs.
Lots of LITTLE things make a good katana, all things considered the only reason you may get a true live blade are if you're so into it you need it, when you need to cut down wrapped tatami without the freed portion budging.
For that, you need to be prepared to shell out a couple grand.
That's what I'm saying, a Paul Chen practical will be decent for what it is, kinda PSA style for an AR. Quality control aint perfect, but it doesn't need to be for the price, you get a functional katana.
I can't justify 2 grand into a sword that you need to maintain mind you, you need to oil that shit and keep it working, it's not just a stick.
you're good. that steel is all good as long as the temper isn't shit.
at that price you'll be looking at bad fittings and other shoddy worksmanship
order from this place
much better place.
I checked quality. You're better off here. Trust.
Actually the paul chen would be better described as the nugget of katana.
No experience on Northshire, however, if you would please, learn what makes a proper katana and then do some kind of review, add that shit to the list so we can slowly build a comparison of it.
For 14 Canadian dollars you can get yourself a far superior tool. A hatchet can break your 500 dollar cold steel shit in half with one chop.
I should do that. No one seems to have experience with them. If they are true to their word, or not. Ill post when I get the funds.
I have a sks for that.
1. Their swords are of decent quality for cutting
2. Their forge is infamous for terrible quality control. If the designs were implemented properly they would have decent swords, but they have major defects far more often than their competitors swords do.
the yuro ones are whippy pieces of shit
the sabers are contracted out to Windlass steelcrafts, universal cutlery, and some fly by night DESIGNATED factories and besides being 1055 for the blades they are actually pretty good.
the japanese swords are overbuilt PoS compared to competitors several hundred dollars lower in price range, let alone at the ~500 dollarydoo mark
for a good differentially tempered monosteel blade that won't shit the bed.
or stop being a fucking weeb
Why cold steel and not hanwei?
I was too much of a kendo guy to actually get into swords as a teen because I figured it was better to wait and get an actual martial arts cutter or an antique, sadly though when I became an adult I didn't have time for martial arts anymore and I became more interested in practicing my shooting.
1. A hatchet cannot break a sword, even a stainless steel one. Go ahead, make a video of you trying.
2. A hatchet is a better tool for some things, but even a dull brittle sword is better for killing people than a hatchet, look up what "leverage" is on wikipedia.
Also hatchets aren't that good.
10/10 why am I replying to a troll?
that doesn't matter, the company and it's reputation (and lack thereof) do.
when SBG, MyArmoury, and 20 random anons tell you to go with established brands...
if someone told you to not hit your dick with a hammer, would you question why they think not hitting your dick with a hammer is a bad idea?
Yeah, Chinese monosteel blades are quite good beginner's swords and suitable for the abusive user as well.
All that bullshit about folding and nihonto numba one is just that. Bullshit. You dont want an original Katanah that is either extremely rigid or brittle as fuck and cant into flex.
Or just skip the part where you continue being a mouthbreather and become a real man with a real hand made quality sword.
Because it's a quality item that won't fucking fall apart in a week like the "sword" in the OP.
So I guess this is the sword thread.
I was a saber, new prodeuction, that has a real carbon steel blade, is a quality item, and isn't fucking cold steel.
Willing to pay up to 2k, just haven't found one. Any tips?
Doesn't matter what you pay for it. Outside of owning antique swords owning replicas and the like is autistic as fuck. Unless you do that LARP shit which can be kind of cool I'll admit from what I've seen. Just owning them for wall hanging is tacky and a red flag for wizard status.
Or you just like blades. You could turn around and say that owning a long gun is autistic as fuck, as you'll likely never use it anywhere but the range.
People have different tastes m8.
If you live in some noguns freedom hating shithole maybe. Chances are if you live somewhere where they hate guns you'll probably get ass fucked in court for cleaving off Abduls arm.
Do you people even know how to handle a sword and do you take into account that fighting inside a closed space like a bedroom or hallway with a sword is going to get you fucked up?
It's pretty funny that people think that because a technology is old, it's inadequate and dangerous.
I'm not advocating buying a sword for home defense, but if you had to use it, it's not as if you would just suddenly lop your own arm off unawares.
Why is the curved handle the most aesthetically pleasing thing ever?
I wasn't just saying that most of the swords that autists buy are katanas and large European swords they can barely lift that focus more on slashing instead of thrusting which in an enclosed space is a recipe for disaster.
The ones who use actual swords that are dulled down and know what they're doing isn't so bad. I've only watched some documentary on a LARP group who did it that way and it looked painful and accurate. Now that foam and cardboard LARP shit is autist as fuck.
Then don't get a katana. They can't cut "shit". They can cut people, fairly well. They can slice through bamboo like a boss. You try to cut any other "shit", though, and it will fucking shatter.
Get a saber.
Because quality costs money. Same way that a hi-point costs a fraction of the price of a decent handgun in the same caliber. A well-made sword takes dozens of hours work, even with modern machinery providing some shortcuts in manufacturing.
As for Why buy a sword? Why not? Same reason some people still buy 35mm film cameras, or some people like to read the book instead of watch the film. People like different things. If you only live your life looking at every object you buy through the lens of "how effective is this for some SHTF event that will never happen" then you have a pretty one-dimensional, sad life.
>Cold Steel actually makes pretty good quality swords.
Ha. Hahaha. HahahahahahahaaaaaaahNO.
Cold steel are designed and marketed to basement-dwelling fantasists who know no better. Their swords are notoriously bad quality; grotesquely overweight, with cheap castings for hilt furniture. they are made with little or no distal taper, because it saves money. they has the side effect of making them blade-heavy, which makes them very good for chopping static objects. However, it makes for a terrible sword for anything else. And yes, chances are you're never going to get into a swordfight in this day and age, but the fact remains the lumps of steel they make should at least handle like the real things... which they dont.
>HEMA cunts occasionally use sharp blades but yeah it's autistic as fuck
But being fixated on guns isnt?
Newsflash: you're no better than the people interested in HEMA. At least they get out and do some exercise.
Nobody in the thread is claiming that sword duels are any good or real in this day and age.
If I wanted a handgun I'd buy a fucking handgun. But, I like blades, and they interest me far more. I'm not going to walk around with a sword strapped to my hip, but I'll sure as shit get enjoyment from it, which is the whole fucking point.
I hesitate to use the word but you really do sound like a fudd.
Go ahead, call this a meme reply.
>Mfw I can't find anyplace that sells crucible forged Ulfberth's with the correct spelling.
Ric Furrier has said the one made for the Nat Geographic documentary is still looking for a buyer.
Expect to pay at least $10,000 for it.
any other smith with the skill to make crucible steel, and forge it to shape, and do the inlay, and give it a hilt of a suitable standard, you're easily looking at the same pricetag.
and if you seriously think that highly skilled craftsmen are going to give to a 500+ man-hour job like one of those for less than $20 an hour, you're delusional.