GunFag Here! Interested in buying a Sig Sauer but still trying to determine what model. Also interested in internet trolls talking shit on this post. Why else would I be here? Hit me with some of your fav models
No carry means there's no downside to a larger pistol. Larger pistols are always better if you're not worried about concealability, they're easier to use, less recoil, hold more bulletz, etc. But since you're a 10rd max califag, the P220 has 10rd .45 mags and a rail for a weaponlight for home defense.
I owned 2 sigs in the past
didn't like them because the grips were plastic and the backspring completely exposed backside of gripstrap underneath plastic
I figured if I dropped the thing the plastic grips would break and the spring would mess up
ok that's kind of weak but that was my only gripe about sigs
otherwise they are expensive shoot well nice triggers reliable good looking and kind of snooty to own
The model depends on what you want to shoot. If you want 9x19 go for the P228. I sold my first one and regretted it every day until I bought another one a few years later. You can never go wrong with a P226 or P220 either. Generally your good to go with anything P22x.
According to one anon:
"It's a nice trigger in terms of lightness but I can start pulling, go home, cook dinner, fuck my wife, and be back in time for it to fire"
It's very much a Double action trigger. The 320 is the way to go if you want a 250 with a short pull
Don't get one, the p320 is basically a huge stepup in every way.
Anyone know if the polymer grips in op's pic are any more comfortable than the old plastic grips on p226's?
I have a west german sig and the huge hump right below the slide release kinda fucks with my grip, I've shot sigs with both polymer and e2 grips but I can't remember how they felt because it was so long ago before I had a sig
If you aren't gonna carry it anyway get a 1911. I have a Sig 1911 XO and I love it.
i have the same style grips on my P228, and they still have that big hump there (because the decocker sits right under there)
i ordered some hogue g10s and am hoping it'll be thinner up there
I really want a Scorpion Carry, these are sexy looking mofos, even if the cerakote is shit compared to their original finish. I would love to put some serious wear on it.
You might want to take a look at the SP2022 if you need a cheaper option. Very underrated pistol
>Doesn't like the Short Reset Trigger
The fuck man? It's probably the best upgrade to a Sig you can get, it's on my short list of purchases right now.
They're pretty good, I agree. Still, just doesn't feel like a sig because of the polymer frame though.
Another comrade here. Just bought a P226 extreme non CA version awaiting jail time. I never knew 10 days could be so long. If you're buying new from dealer, definitely try to avoid the CA compliant versions. Very hideous LCI and writing on the slide.
I would seriously consider a P228 with an SRT kit
or even better, what are Sigbro thoughts on the new Grayguns trigger job in a bag?
P227. I loved my P220 and miss it, but if I was in a state with 10 rounds max, I'd definitely go for the P227.
Don't listen to him. The SRT trigger stands for Short Reset Trigger. It just gives you a shorter reset after the break.
And as much as I loved my P220, I'd get a P227 over it if I were looking for another .45 acp Sig.
Sig P210 is best Sig, but jokes aside, it's hard to go wrong with much in their range.
Sig does both the SRT - short reset trigger, which like anon above described shortens the forward travel before it resets - but they also produce a short reach trigger, called the "Reduced Reach" - which is profiled differently with a bit of meat taken out to allow people with shorter fingers to fire them more comfortably.
>>I owned 2 sigs in the past
>didn't like them because the grips were plastic and the backspring completely exposed backside of gripstrap underneath plastic
>I figured if I dropped the thing the plastic grips would break and the spring would mess up
>ok that's kind of weak but that was my only gripe about sigs
You owned two Sigs in the past, but you're not aware that there are wood, G10 and even aluminum grip options? You sound functionally retarded.
>but durr wuz a mainspring under dem chippy plastic gripz tho
You mean just like every other hammer fired pistol? Not like the plastic Sig uses has any history of chipping. Your complaint is not even valid.
>otherwise they are expensive shoot well nice triggers reliable good looking and kind of snooty to own
Is that supposed to be a coherent English sentence? Go back to grade school, please.
Don't buy a SIG, they're junk.
<spoiler>j/k if you're in Banifornia get whatever's available on your roster. If you don't want a large pistol with gimped mags the P239 is excellent</spoiler>
>finally get around to ordering 1,000 rounds of 9mm
>do two weeks of constant da/sa dry firing and wall drills
>range day finally comes, take 300 rounds with me because I left my rifles at home for a 100% pistol day
>get there and shoot just one round
>this shit happens
Seeing as how my p226 is 26 years old, what should I replace for maintenance? I'm thinking of just buying a replacement for every spring and taking my gun completely apart for cleaning
You can replace it with a new style (coil) trigger return spring, but you'll need to replace the grips too, since the old grip panels don't have enough clearance cut in them for the new style spring to sit without binding. Unless you want to do that, I would just look on ebay or Gunbroker for an old style trigger return spring.
As for other springs to replace, it's hard to say. Being 26 years old doesn't tell me how much the gun has been shot. Sigs are notorious for malfunctioning when their recoil springs get worn out (about 2000 round mark). If you use solid (regular) springs made by a company like Wolff, they will last a little longer. If your gun isn't malfunctioning, your recoil spring is likely still in good shape.
It's recommended to replace the firing pin return spring at regular intervals, but I've honestly never seen one on any gun that was so worn out it needed replacing. Unless you're getting punctured primers, I wouldn't worry about that either.
You will know if the decocking lever spring needs to be replaced because your decocking lever won't be functioning right.
The mag catch lever spring holds the takedown lever in place during take down. If there's any annoying wobble of the takedown lever while taking apart your gun, you can go ahead and replace that.
The mainspring is probably fine, and if you have the old style hammer strut with one piece spring and seat, I wouldn't touch it. Those are a nightmare to take apart. It is possible to swap the hammer strut, mainspring and mainspring seat for the new parts, which I'd recommend, simply for the fact that they seem to improve the smoothness of the trigger pull and they are much easier to disassemble.
I'll try to replace the mainspring since I sorta want those e2 grips anyways.
And I can tell my gun was heavily used, I bought it as a police trade in and the underside of the frame is pretty worn out. All the springs are interchangeable with older style sigs, right?
The E2 grip kit comes with a special hammer strut and mainspring seat, so in addition to that kit, all you'd need is a new style mainspring and new style trigger return spring and you'll be golden.
Damn, I might do that.
I've shot a p226 with e2 grips before back when I didn't have my own, how do they compare to the old plastic grips? My main grip with my gun right now is how the spot right below the slide release is a bit blocky and protruding.
I feel like I should of just bought a nib us p226 for ~$750 with all the extra stuff I seem to be buying
>My main grip with my gun right now is how the spot right below the slide release is a bit blocky and protruding.
There is a fat hump in the same area on the E2 grips as well. Since its more contoured and rounded it probably doesn't feel as obtrusive as the old style grips.
Person you're replying to here.
The E2 grip is a little thinner and a little shorter. I feel like it reduces trigger reach and lets my small/medium hands get a better hold of the gun. I do not like it for concealed-carry (too rough on my skin), and I do not like it for detail-stripping the frame (just a pain in the ass to remove). I had it on my P228 for a short time, and then switched back because
>I feel like I should of just bought a nib us p226 for ~$750 with all the extra stuff I seem to be buying
The one reason I'm shying away from the newer Sigs is that the stainless slides (they're all stainless, even the nitron-coated ones) beat up the frame rails a lot worse than I've ever seen on a carbon slide (West German) Sig. On the other hand, some of the West German-specific parts, such as the internal extractor, are getting harder and harder to come by, so it's all a trade-off.
To me, it feels like the E2 grip is definitely thinner at that point, but you're right that it's still the widest part of the gun.
I should just get the regular polymer grips right? I'm trying not to spend too much money on gun stuff and I can do without the e2's.
thanks for the detailed replies, I appreciate it
Unless the grips are cracked or something I would just stick with what you have especially on a older Sig like yours. E2 are comfy but its not worth the money to upgrade parts to fit them. Spend that money on a SRT kit if you really want a decent upgrade.
Is nobody else going to point out the fact that this sperglord introduced himself as GunFag, and talked about 'Internet trolls talking shit'?
Is OP pic related?
Person you're replying to here. Just get an old style trigger return spring off Gunrbroker or ebay or something. If you go to the classifieds section on SigTalk or Sig Forum, you can just post a WTB ad. I'm sure people have them sitting around.
I'll look into it. And do p226's usually have tough slide releases? Mine is pretty "unresponsive" and I have to place my thumb on the end of it like in pic to actuate it when its locked open.
I'm 99% sure it's an old spring with very little tension, is that the case?
I sorta want a p220 if I ever dabble in .45's so I can pretend I'm Neil from heat
definately west germans
>he doesn't want the blackwater boat anchor moaning labia elite markings with rfid stickers and viking engravings on his sig
top pleb tbqh
I don't like words on my guns. I guess I want a P226 mk 25 without the anchor on it. Because it is writing and I'm pretty sure it comes across as tryhard. I'll look around for a west german one then. Would it already have or be compatible with the SRT kit?
Also the captcha thinks a hearse is a limo.
It most likely won't have an srt but it is compatible yes.
Nobody really thinks the mk25 is tryhard. Everybody is just a poorfag and likes to meme on them like seals on this board.
If you buy the mk25, just keep in mind you're not a navy seal. I really wouldn't mind buying one since I think seals are pretty cool guys
it's a sticker, somewhat durable from what I hear but it is removable if you really want to take it off
I'm probably going to wait until I'm 21 and then get the mk25 in this case. I typically get fewer higher quality (not that you can't get cheap quality) guns rather than a bunch of lesser ones. And I will be taking the sticker off.
If I ever got an MK25 i would even give a shit about the anchor, I just like the rust proof coating on the inside.
That being said my one and only pistol I own right now is a regular old P226R. I love it, looking for some leg holsters for it.
But it shows everybody that you're the real deal.
>If you buy the mk25, just keep in mind you're not a navy seal.
why its so perfect after handling one for...idk an hour? the mag release isnt a big deal I promise m80, I have a USP .45 and kinda smaller hands and I like the mag release
Any problems with the US made mags? I have a 226 extreme awaiting jail time that comes with them. A brief search shows that Checkmate is the OEM for US made Sig mags, but I have no experience with the brand. However, I did see a lot of forum threads about them being worse than Mec-gars, so I might just sell them and buy Mec-gars.
The US made mags have all fed fine for me they just don't consistently lock the slide back on empty. Not a huge issue for a range gun but if you plan on using it in a life or death situation, buy the mecgars.
That's what I was doing initially since I use a pretty high grip. But after correcting it and just loading 1 round in all the mags the US made ones consistently failed to lock back about 50% of the time.
I haven't had any issues with the US made 226 mags that came with my gun. However, I did order some 18rd Mecgar magazines because they are pretty much the same size as the US made 15rd ones and have a better finish.
I love how many people have recommended sig models that don't meet California's requirements.
I have a SIG P320C.
Extremely nice gun! Definitely check that one out! The full size 320 too if you have more room.