Ok, I'm in a debate with a friend on the new Texas law coming up that says that we can carry on college campuses. I'm pretty sure that she is going to think I'm insane, but that's besides the point I would like to know what some of you think about it.
Extremely low crime rate for Concealed Carriers anyway, so why would it be any different on Campus?
It doesn't change the age or requirements for CCL anyway, chances are students 21 or older who are able to purchase a gun are smart enough not to do drugs or drink excessively. Never quite got that argument that "if you let guns on campus people will die because carriers will get drunk" (illegal, see first point) "and shoot people they disagree with"
Considering you're on here, I'd imagine you're on the pro side of this debate. This might help: http://concealedcampus.org/common-arguments/
Sounds a bit redicoulus cause Im from Germany. But the political situation changed my position to that.
We actually have a tradition in Germany that students are armed. 14. to 19. century students were allowed to be armed, when the are in a traditional fraternity. People here thought, that students are reasonable.
Right for these centuries. But I think, that especially young students are too emotional and today often uneducated. A pro and a contra....
It's pretty weird here in the US. They bill us like adults and treat us like children. "Freedom of Speech Zones" (Campuses are getting sued for it more often now though.) and "Gun Free Zones". That being said, there are a lot of guns on campus here.
I'm all for gun rights and shit and in fact support campus carry but most college students are complete idiots who I don't trust in the slightest with any hint of responsibility.
Hahaha all these fucking edge lords. I can see it now, a fedora on the head and a hipoint on the waist of every neckbeard now made vigilante on college campuses across the nation. Seriously though, just why? It's so fucking stupid.
Today university isnt free anymore. I studied now nearlyy eght years ago. Now its like a school. The students are more chilidish. But we had a lot of scum there. Sitting with them in the library? Alone? Oh dear.
Well, look at the students who are with you.... From where they come, from which part of the society.
Its difficult. If you re armed, they are too.
>upset hi-point wielding, fedora wearing, edge lord detected.
I'm talking about the freshmen. It also has to do with the culture on a campus. It's against the law to carry knives at the one I went to, but that didn't stop the idiot with the (legal in the state) switchblade from whipping it out all the time to try and impress people.
Like I said, I support campus carry so I don't know why you're acting like I don't. However, it's possible to think that most college students are idiots who haven't learned discipline or responsibility yet.
I mean, if its allowed to be armed, the scum people will be.
So it would be interesting for me to understand the US temper.
1.If its allowed they will be armed and the risk rises to get a shot in the back by scum.
2.If its not allowed to be armed, a crazy guy could run in the unversity shooting people by ignoring the rules, maybe you. No one can defend.
My question is:
What is more presumably for you. 1 or 2?
Of what are you more afraid of? 1 or 2?
I don't think the government should restrict carry on school campuses. There is simply no logical reason to do so.
However, if a school is privately owned and wants to prohibit firearms, that's their right.
IMO the same goes for bars, churches, etc. The entire idea of a government-mandated "gun free zone" is inane enough before you get into arbitrary blanket bans on certain institutions. If someone can be legally trusted to carry a weapon in the street, they should be able to carry anywhere else in public or on private property where it isn't prohibited by the owner.