So I've just been using Hoppe's oil forever since it's what I got with my first cleaning kit and I kind of stuck with it. Lately I've been hearing that grease is actually better as a lube than oil.
What's the best, most practical lube to use? What do you use?
>inb4 canola oil
Slip 2000, i have not met or heard of anyone that have tried it that went back to what they used before.
No fucko, you're the retard. I drive and service VW TDIs as a side business, know what diesel oil is really fucking good at? Keeping soot in suspension and working under insane temperatures, compression, and combustion. The friction modifiers and additive packages found in modern synthetic Diesel oils are probably the single best lubricant you can purchase for a firearm. They keep crud in suspension/solution, the additives are designed for insanely high compression applications and won't degrade. It's intended for a huge variety of temperatures and lasts a long time under non-use. Also lasts a long time under use. People bitch about rust protection and other non problems because it just hurts their feelings that their 19.99/Oz. lubricant is showed up by a ten dollar quart of Shell Rotella T6.
There is no reason to not use motor oil in a gun short of you existing in a dusty, dirty environment.
I use grease (pic related) on any metal surface that touches other metal surfaces: barrel locking lugs, top and bottom of barrel where it rubs the slide, slide rails, pump handle rails on shotgun, etc. You don't need to use much, and wipe away any excess so it doesn't attract gunk.
Every other metal surface, I use hoppes oil just to keep it protected from rust.
whats the newest trend now?
and email me about it.
My buddy uses it, and has let me treat a few of my guns with it, and it works just fine, smells nice, isn't super harsh on your skin if you use it a lot. All in all, it's not worth the price considering it hasn't given me better results than the usual hoppes and remoil I've been using for 15 years.
TL;DR, froglube is good shit but doesn't do anything that traditional lubes can't.
I use Hoppes #9 for cleaning, Hoppes gun grease for lubing friction points and bearing surfaces, and I use Remoil for general rust prevention and minor lubrication.
Anyone got any good suggestions as to alternatives I can use?
Brake cleaner and motor oil. I use patches and then finish up with a boresnake with a drop of motor oil on the end. Also use gun grease (cheap) on slidey bits. A little dab'll do ya.
If I want to really get the crud out of my surplus guns one day, I'll let the (the barrel) soak in brake fluid for a few hours, brush gently with a brass brush, clean as usual, repeat. There is years worth of copper fouling in my Mauser barrel, no matter how many patches go in they always end up coming out blue. It doesn't really affect anything, just bugs me that there is crud in there that I can't get out without a serious effort.
I also keep a bag of desiccant in my gun locker.
Either of these.
Use outdoors, or at a minimum with excellent ventilation. Consider an Organic Vapor respirator and wear gloves. I'm not kidding.
Don't let either sit in the bore.
I swear it's awesome, I have used both boretech copper remover, I think they might have a special name for it idk, and kg12(need to wear gloves with this), they clean with very minimal scrubbing. I was able to get a really dirty t53 spotless in a few hours with the boretech copper remover and their carbon remover is useful too, similar to the copper stuff but will clean any carbon. I have yet to see any cleaner clean the black off an AK piston but the boretech stuff will do it
Tried it, they clean good but boretech is a million times easier to use and cleans just as good , and you don't need to clean outside , and it doesn't matter if it sits in your bore, those are a waste of time
>those are a waste of time
Every single remotely successful F-Class shooter and those autistic 6mm PPC shooters with analytical balances in their reloading kits spanning this history of everything seems to disagree with you, but okay.
That's cool, companies like KG hire chemists to produce their products, I'm sure they know more about the properties of steel and what cleans best than some benchshooters, fuck off troll
>like KG hire chemists
The same chemists that would assure you their particular brand of $19.99/Oz lubricant is so much better than motor oil? Despite the literal millions of dollars spent on R&D for modern engine lubricants by big oil?
It's bro science, and like it or not, it's fairly reliable. People who keep outstanding track of every aspect of their weapon, because that's their thing, from cleaning, to ammunition, to every single round fired, how those rounds performed and under what conditions they performed, use those two products almost fucking exclusively because of said performance.
And if you want to start slinging names around that's fine. Eat my ass you Islamic peice of shit.
Topkek I use motor oil for lube, you're preaching to the wrong person, KG isn't some backwoods company run by chemist bubbajoe and his sister, they have actually developed products that gun manufacturers are using to finish steel with. Fuck off troll.
All three of you are dumb, assuming it's not just the same faggot samefagging. Ammonia is essentially the only chemical commonly available and cheap enough for this kind of work. Is it bad for steel, sure if you let it sit for hours on end in a concentrated solution. That's why the directions tell you to not let it sit, not the company's fault you can't read. If you want to clean led, copper, and brass fouling out of a bore to the best of your ability, you need to use ammonia to do it, just be carefull with it.
It will get into cracks and crevices you can't get to, and some guns you can't apply degreaser because of the finish. Ammonia isn't the end all for gun cleaning and if you're limiting yourself to one chemical, it is you that is dumb. I'll stick to my shit, it cleans fast and easier than anything I've ever used, which has been about everything in this thread.
Check their website, or kalgard
Can't believe the thread has gone this long without this
Ahahahaha. Well done, anon. Guaranteed replies and excuses. Anecdotal faggots getting their precious misconceptions smashed arouses me sexually.
Now, I'm off to fap to the wail of tornado sirens.
>A high volume reservoir
>A pressurized loop
Three things every engine has that a gun lacks, faggot. Unless you're storing your heater in a vat between uses, you're being ghetto.
fucking faggots the lot of you
>Not the limited edition
It's like you hate your guns.
I didnt know they were running anything special
I didn't need to re up but I might as well
Use Militec-1 for lube, I use just a drop on top of a Ballistol layer.
I've got a couple of bottles of pic related sitting on my desk and am tempted to use it on my guns. It should fine anyway.
Clean with Breakfree CLP
Lube with Slip 2000
But I'm gonna try Weapon Shield.
you know what motors are made of? metal
you know what motors are powered by? explosions
you know what guns are made of? metal
you know what guns are powered by? explosions
why wouldnt the same oil work on both genius?
I heard somewhere that vegetable oil has some kind of graininess (no pun intended) to it that can scratch up guns. Is this not true? Or am I confusing it with mineral oil?
I am a chef so i know. Vegetable oil oxidizes very fast and then it becomes thick. When now some dust comes in its like polishing creme wich on long time does more damage than help
At no point should gun oil be exposed to the full heat and pressure of firing.
Motor oil is vastly over engineered for the task of being a gun oil. It works better with heat and pressure and is also designed for crud cleaning.
Just use their upper cylinder lubricant, it's ten bucks for 32oz, and has a similar viscosity as military CLP. Or use transmission fluid mixed with oderless kerosene (50/50)
Clean with Ed's Red. Use sweets copper solvent when needed.