>>27805401 In the rare case we have kids over and they fuck with it while I'm not looking. Fuckers move quick and are very grabby, and oftentimes NJ parents don't like to teach their kids gun safety. Only adds a few seconds to my ready time and I'm on the loft of our second floor anyways so I don't worry about being caught with my pants down.
>>27806697 That's not what heat shields are for. They are to dissipate the heat from the barrel so when looking down the barrel your vision is blurred to hell. If you've ever shot 10+ shots in a row you can see the heat distort your vision.
I am an anon in Germany, and as you might all well know by now, Germany is getting overrun by milions of mudslimes.
The situation is ok now, but I expect moderate rioting in the next 2 years after the economy takes a hit, and welfare is cut from the mudshits.
How can I protect myself, my gf, and our future home?
In the short term, I am carrying either a glass bottle or an aluminium thermos can to at least hit a mudshit if he tries something during the night. Oh I should expand, we live in a town with about 50k inhabitants, 3 blocks from where we live a 'refugee' camp for about 5k mudshits is being built. I expect a decrease in ou rsense of security. On ht eother side of town, a camp already exisst, so the 'refugee' population of our town will easily be >10%.
Anyway, I have also thought about buying a mac-lite flashlight or somekind of defensive torchlight. Defensive weapons as telescopic batons, or pepper spray are not allowed, and if I used one in self-defense I would be under suspicion "why are you carrying guns?". At least with a mac-lite I would have a reasonable defense, its dark out there.
What is a good strat for home defense when you are only allowed to have a handgun locked in a safe, with the ammo locked in a subcompartment of the safe? I guess just train train train and get the ready-time low as possible?. I can imagine fumbling with keys or codes when a mudshit is on your door allahu ackbaring.
Anyway, any advice? any german anons with any experience?
Probably my FNX or shotgun depending on if I'm closer to my nightstand or closet when the habbening hits. Don't really care about over-penetration, most angles in my house I'd be firing at are away from neighbors, and my neighbors are the most likely people to be breaking into my house anyway.
>>27808732 >Germans can get more than pistols Only if you show you have a special need for that. For example, if you are a hunter or a someone that is seriously shooting at the range. It would be too expensive money- and timewise.
>locked in a safe it is mandatory, and you are subjected to random searches by the police with no warning or justificiation. They just drop by every certain amount of time and if you dont have your shit properly locked up, you can kiss it goddbye.
i rotate between my 9mm XD, the AR pistol, or the AK-74 I just finished building. Wife hates that I tuck that shit under my pillow at night but I have had a nigger try to break in a few times, the last time being last night.
>>27802975 Nothing. I live in a good neighborhood, I have a 3 inch steel door, 2 feet of concrete for walls, roof and floor, and a balcony 17 stories up. But I have a tokarev if shit did go down but I'd have to unlock it and grab the ammo.
>>27802975 Mossberg 500 in the closet with birdshot loaded and slugs for back up.
CZ75 in the nightstand with HP
Ruger SP101 in the bathroom behind the toilet in a metal box with .38sp and 357mags (5 rds of each caliber)
But if for some reason I can't grab any of the guns, then I have to rely on my fat cat to defend me...as in I'll chuck him at the intruding niggers hoping he'll scratch their eyes out. (fucker gets all pissed when I wake him up during his nap time)
>It is a beefy gun, built on a 10mm frame, and has fat grips >The front sight is milled onto the slide, not dovetailed, and is silver with a red dot (AKA Gay as balls)
But I fixed that by painting the sight black and the dot white to match the rear sight. I could have it dovetailed for $25, I probably should next week actually since it's my primary carry in winter..
And the grips can just be sanded down like I did to mine.
As to your question, it is noticeably thicker than the 9mm Witness polymer that my roommate has, but after I shaved the grips I like it.I'm holding it right now, want me to bust out the calipers and give you measurements?
>>27809472 Give me a single video of buckshot penetrating FBI minim through gel with denim at 7+yds
>>27809506 thanks for the input and advice. it's not necessary to take any measurements.
If I did get one, it would not be my primary carry gun, just a range toy/ when I go to the U.P. and have to worry about 4 legged creatures. Granted I have pistols that will do the job but 18 rounds of .38 super in my mind is better than 5 or 6 rounds of .357 mag in either of my revolvers. and with the smaller black bears we have even a good 9mm loading in my g19 isn't the best.
>>27809955 Another note, Underwood 124gr +p (The ones loaded with Gold Dots) run like a champ in mine, and the semi-rimmed .38 Super will extract no matter what.
>Reloading some +p hollow points >Little burr of brass or something gets into sizing die >Case gets scored mouth to base >I miss it because lol reloading 200 rounds on a single stage >When I fire the round the case fucking peals like a banana >Extracts so violently it ricochets off the shooting cover roof and lands three lanes down >Next round feeds fine, finish the mag and only see what happened when I went to pick up brass
This gun is a fucking champ, semi-rimmed .38 Super, no problem, rimless .38 Super-Comp, no fucking problem, +P reloads? Factory loads? All smooth as fuck.
And that 10mm frames bulk is not just dead weight
>Get a deal on 500 Gold Dot style hollow points >Reload 250 rounds >OH SHIT! It's time for Steel Challenge and I actually have the weekend off >No time for ammo, just use what I got >What I got is +P 124gr defensive ammo >Frame is so beefy and ergonomics so good I shoot like it's low-recoil powder puff rounds >Come in 2nd out of 23, 1st beat me by 0.10
Literally having a text conversation with my usually progun buddy right now. >"either way for self-defense 12 gauge is impractical excessive and sadistic" >"Assault rifles and bullets used by the military aren't even made to kill" >"I can't see any practicality in anything bigger than .357" >"the point is to stop the attack. Not blow the person away. A 9mm round to the thigh will stop it" >"Beanbag rounds are 'less than lethal' rubber bullets are classified as 'non lethal'" What the fuck is going on with my friend? >
I was contemplating coupling a few neutered magazines together so I could have more than 10 rounds on tap, but then I realized how easy it is to take out the rivets in 10/30 magazines and how cheap bullet button tools are.
>>27810242 If he's really your fiend you have the responsibility to sit him down and say
>Look Man, normally you're on point, but you just said some stupid bullshit and as your friend I need to set your ass straight so you don't look like a dumb ass >If you're gonna use a gun on someone it means not killing them isn't an option, so you go for the biggest gun you can so that person trying to kill you or your loved ones doesn't succeed >The military is damn good and interested in killing the shit out of people, or we'd have phasers by now >You've never stared down a Kodiak Grizzly (Feel free to tell him I said .357is for pussies and black bears, I'm from Alaska) >You shoot some fucking mugger in the leg when we're out on the town and he shoots me before going down because you're a pussy, I'm beating your bitch ass into a coma before I call myself an ambulance >You're honestly talking like a California Vally bitch and I need you to get your shit straight or I'm suspending your man card, the fuck is wrong with you?
Hello, i'm a guy who was actually in a home defense situation at 3 o'clock in the morning. im pissed, real fuckn pissed about your gun decisions
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with you? do you want to take down your walls? do you want to go blind and deaf (and your family too?)
Seriously, anything more than a suppressed .22 is insane.
>be me >home alone >3 o clock in le morning >hear outside bashing door >get up quickly >didnt have enough time to to wear earpro or eyepro >grab glock brand glock >go to the coridor and see a fag holding a big axe >mag dump >EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE >call 1911 >they come, take the body and and confiscate glocky (for a couple of months) >fin
TLDR; Shot glock and almost got blind and deaf, also, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE for 2 days
Pic related. he almost fucked me up with an axe
Now think about it, a glock almost made me blind and deaf, imagine what a 7.62 or a 5.56 would have done to me? i would have got completely blind and deaf
Also, in HD you dont have enough time to wear eye/ear pro.
> The part where I ridicule you Guy who first responed to OP with "AR-15" here. I'm really fucking impressed and honored to have you, Mr.Tactical Expert here to lecture us know-nothings. I mean, you were in ONE encounter. Not bad. What a vast amount of experience and knowledge you can draw from that. So thanks for that.
> The "taking down walls" part Next: I'm not an American, I live in Europe. In Europe, we don't use dry wall/card boards as building material. We build with stone and concrete. It's a cultural thing, maybe because we don't have tornados which force us to rebuild every two years, we actually build durable houses. 5.56 will not penetrate those walls.
> The you are a fag part As others have claimed, I too keep electronic hearing protection right next to my bed side which takes no additional time to put on while I make the two steps towards my AR-15. And even if this were a problem, who cares? When I'm not convinced that my life is in danger, I won't shoot. If I'm convinced that my life is in danger, I don't care about my hearing. It's the trade off I'm willing to make. But I'm not willing to take the risk of using an inferior weapon and/or cartridge for fear of me not being able to handle my weapon or having temporary hearing loss.
My house is comprised of traps and pitfalls, all controlled by a small midget. Both I and the intruder must navigate the traps and pitfalls. Whoever does it the best gets to my single shot golden gun that kills with one hit.
Britbong here, You may be thinking that the spoon police came round and filed down any edge remotely sharp. But I live in a non scummy area.
I have Two Kukris on the wall, They are a decoration but they are real and work cutting wood so a few slashes at a nog bursting in would most likely wound badly. I have a Winchester Defender easily avalible to grab and unload and quite a few sporting shotguns. I hunt and shoot for sport.
I am also decent at a few martial arts and pretty fit but that is nothing compared to a gun.
Also I have a Scale Model of HMS Victory in my back garden and a crew of 500 that man it every day that I can signal to unload 100+ cannons on any intruders. and small Platoon of Redcoats in my Tea room that I use to defend myself
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