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/LGBT/ I’ve got a problem and I need your opinion. Already I can tell that this will be a disaster, but please read this.
I don’t know if being transgendered is the right of an individual or if it is a mental disorder. Should trans people be allowed to get gender reassignment or are we facilitating a psychiatric condition?
First my background:
I am a 21 year old, cis, straight male who has lived most of his life trying it become a medical doctor. I am almost always a social liberal and I want to accept transgender rights. Along my academic path I have taken medical...
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What is wrong with the trans argument?
-Someone who has a belief that their body conflicts with the image of their body is widely considered to have body dysmorphic disorder. This can be non-psychiatric in many cases. I personally think I’m a twerp, but most people think I’m athletic. However there can be extremes; anorexia, body integrity identity disorder, and possibly having a transgendered identity. In these cases people can physically harm themselves to match their body to their image. The problem I have is that the medical community doesn’t amputate the limbs...
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What’s wrong with calling trans a disorder?
-I would argue that being gay is not a psychological disorder. If being gay isn’t a mental disorder, how is being trans a mental disorder? Gays and straights alike have the right to do what they want as long as they do not infringe upon another person’s rights. Why should there be a double standard between liking the same sex vs. feeling born of the wrong sex? Why should we stop someone else’s happiness when they know how to achieve it without hurting anyone?
Also, as a doctor I would be in some deep shit if I tried referring...
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Arguments I don’t like:
Genetic- Fuck this argument. Chromosomally we are assigned a sex, but gender and sexuality is not assigned by an XY or an XX. Some argue epigenetic factors determine gender and sexuality, but as a scientist I find these studies incomplete. I doubt questions of why people are who they are will ever be fully answered.
Psychiatric Classification- There are “soft laws” of psychology. Not everything can be categorized simply due to one factor or another. Maybe it should be a disorder, but a majority of society has accepted it so it has become...
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>usually a total sub
>me and my best friend took drugs
>I topped her, we both enjoyed it
>this is the first time I ever didn't hate topping
>feel like a total AGP
>tranny jesus will never forgive your sins

Should I just detransition?
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There is literally nothing wrong with being AGP.
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>>6711464
That's really not what AGP means.
This meme went too far.
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>>6711502
I was the man in sex. Clearly I'm just a straight man even if my preference isn't women. It's depressing desu

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>transgirl starts making misandrist comments toward me
honey.....
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I'm a transgirl that hates men and everything masculine, including myself.
You wanna fight about it?
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>>6711440
Why would he need to fight you if you're killing yourself in the next 3 years?
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>>6711440
>you wanna fight
this sounds like white male rage to me. we're hear to talk things out, make you can sit out and listen, alright?

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is there a way to remove sexual desire? just turn it all off forever. i figure asexuals must know
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>>6711245
remove testicles
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>>6711245
well considering hormonal problems and certain medication can decrease libido,,,,
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>>6711245
the only "kind-of" solution is jacking off all the time but that just leads to long sections of non-fap so you could just get horny again.

i'm not sure there's a way for you to induce a low libido unless you just force yourself to get depression. otherwise it's just something that comes naturally to you.

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How many of the transpeople here began their transition or discovered that they were trans/had trans feelings after finding /lgbt/ or another forum?
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>>6711160
You're going to get a lot of selection bias with this question because obviously the trans people that lurk here are more likely to have discovered it here than at other places.

I did sorta figure it out here, but I already kinda knew, I just ironed out the details and got on hormones.
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>>6711160
I transitioned ten years ago. There probably were websites or forums dedicated to the subject, but I didn't visit them. My personal knowledge was scarce; I happen to enjoy synthesizer music and learned about Wendy Carlos, just randomly digging up information, and it's hard not be made aware of transsexuals watching shitty daytime TV.

The process was straight forward. I found my surgeon through the eunuch archives. There was no therapy, no "real life experience." Once you're cut, any...
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>>6711160
Youtube was where i figured out I was trans by watching videos about ftms.

I found the videos by googling random questions about how i wished i was male etc.

Which was about 2 years ago and I transitioned socially/medically a year ago when I came out.

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This guy is the best choice for LGBT people. He and his running mate Bill Weld cared about LGBT rights way back before it was cool, in the early 90s, back before the democrats were even pretending to care; and there definitely weren't any special interest groups to push for that either. They believed in equality out of principle, not pressure.
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>>6710942
He's pro TPP
anti regulation

You know what that means, people are poorer, the economy will crash, again, because of corporate greed

Sorry, but I'll take my chances with Clinton
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>>6710942
>40 times less chance of winning than bernie (the actual good lgbt candidate) had
>open borders
>pro TPP
>he's somehow more pro-lgbt than jill stein?? (if you're going the 3rd party route)

nah
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>>6711018
To be fair he's not really for open borders, he wants to require work Visas.
Everything else you said is right though, but I'd rather just have equality than be pandered too, so I dislike Jill.

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Does wanting to be a woman automatically make you trans?
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Not if you already are one.

Otherwise basically yeah.
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>>6710585
nah
most me want to be women, they just don't let it take over their lives
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>>6710626
If you sincerely believe this you need to take a 6 month break from 4chan.

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Do gay people fight over who gets to be top? Do they take turns or is one person always the wife?
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>>6710475
Turns if youre both switch and some relationships you have a top/bottom so its usually almost always one tops and one bottoms in that case.
Imagine a guy and girl. The guy isnt always feeling like he wants to be macho dom. Sometimes he wants the woman to be assertive and all that. Its like that but different.
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>>6710475
Usually no. Tops and bottoms have thier roles, and with two vers guys it usually happens organically.

I'm vers, and it has depended on my partner a lot on what he is like whether i top or bottom more.

>>6710502
I've never taken "turns" with other vers guys. More or less it usually happens just that you're making out, foreplay, sucking cock, and you feel it out. One guy will usually make it clear what he really wants at that moment....
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>>6710554
Also forgot to mention, but lots of times anal doesn't happen at all. Some guys prefer never to do anal top or bottom. Lot's of oral sex though.

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Can you tranny whores stop pushing the tranny agenda into our autists at /r9k/?
Thank you very much in advance. Have a nice day.
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you guys dug your own graves as far as this goes
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>>6710551
HOW THE FUCK WE DID THAT? NONE OF US WANTS TO CUT OUR COCKS OFF AND WEAR A FUCKING DRESS STOP WITH THIS BULLSHIT OF ROBOTS WANT TO BE TRANNIES.
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NO U

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Can someone give tips on how to tell a guy you like them without them assuming you're joking because it's gay?
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>I like you but don't assume I'm joking because this is gay
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>>6710247
gently grab his dick when you tell him
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5 magic words:

"i like you no homo"

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>tfw MtF
>tfw hate FtMs
>tfw hate gays
>tfw hate older MtFs
>tfw hate cishets

Realizing this I guess I can't really blame society for wanting to burn me at the stake. What good am I to anyone?
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dumb frogposter
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>>6710244
THIS
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>>6710231
Please tell me you at least hate those third gender weirdos.

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I'm reading about all these heights here and i'm wondering


Why are americans so small
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Bad environment
Poor air quality
Shitty non-nutritious food
Shitty genes due to decades of interbreeding with the Irish
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>tfw ftm
>5'1
>mother is 5'4
>biodad not in life
>look up his facebook, he's talking about how my half sister is taller than him (he's 5'7, she's 5'11)

kill me
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I'm predominantly Scotch-Irish, my dad's 5'8", mom's 5'2", I ended up being 6'2".

>fucking never going to find a taller boyfriend to top my tall ass. Dammit.

>I recently broke up my Ex
>was mutual break up and we are still friends.
>Me and this guy who lives in same town as I do gave each other oral a few weeks back.
>I go get tested and find out I have chlamydia
>(my ex and I were not in an open relationship, he's also not that type to cheat either)
>I message this local guy to tell him I believe he gave me chlamydia (wasn't being aggressive)....
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>>6709794
>Any thoughts or suggstions on what I can do to find out or who you think it could be?

Some bitch named Deltrese
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>>6709802
Breadquanda please
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>>6709794
If he did get the test a week before he can show you the test results to verify
Also randomly flipping out over a simple accusation is something guilty people do

Seems like its your friend

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>thought that I was mostly straight, or perhaps asexual for the longest time
>never been in a relationship
>hkv
>only really ever show sexual tendencies when being exposed to porn
>never talk about it
>never really had a crush on anyone
>see the What's In My Bag with Will Toledo from Carseat Headrest
>bemyhusbando.jpg
>look at pictures of him and feel uncomfortable amount of attraction (non-sexual)

Is this just a Will Taledo thing? Am I bi-sexual? Too soon to tell? What do I do with this uncomfortable attraction? It's unfamiliar to me.
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>>6709694
Are you me?
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>>6709694
>>6716041
Are you both me? Reading this was creepy accurate until you got to the Toledo part.
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>>6716041

Could be anon. Didn't know this thing was so common.

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Hey guys

Quick question: how do I look out for gay guys in the gym?

I'm relatively well built but I'm young looking and apparently I've heard gay guys think I'm the perfect twink

Obviously this disgusts me because I am not a member of your sodomy and gommora club.

Anyway how can I look out for you vultures at the gym? I already motive a few states as I live in a gay friendly neighborhood.

Thanks gays
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>>6709601

Just check if there is somebody constantly staring at you. If not, it means that nobody is interested in you.
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>>6709601
"apparently I've heard"? Not sure?
If not a troll why care if some guy checks you out? In the unlikely case somebody brings it up to you just tell them you are not interested.
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>>6709601
Well...I got nothing, I mean besides the obvious signs, such as constantly staring at you, being campy, being very touchy-feely...there's nothing that can really help you, as gym rats and gay jocks tend to be fairly straight passing, so you're gonna have to just say you're straight and not interested.
If you're worried about being raped, I'd recommend self defense classes, which should be taken in general, really.
Sorry, this faggot can't help ya much breeder.

>be cis male
>middle school diploma exam
>everyone is given paper to write on
>all the girls are given pink paper and boys are given blue paper
>the teacher handles me pink paper (WTF?)
>high school diploma exam
>same fucking thing
>got referred to as maam in public 1/2 of the time, even though I always had short hair

WTF is this shit? Why does this happen?

Also, a related side question: what does this mean?:
>psychiatrist who follows me up for mood disorder makes jokes about prescribing me hormones
>also brought up a story of a patient whom he follows up who got prescribed hormones (Why did he bring it up?)
>did that more than once

I never spoke about anything other than mood issues. Why would he bring stuff like this up and make me uncomfortable?
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Can we have a pic op? You can blur out anything too identifying.
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Describe your appearance if no pic. We promise I'd do, no bully only truth desu.

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>be me
>be a 5'9
>look like an ftm
>cut your hair to look more brutal
>end up looking like this
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>>6709554
Tattoo the SS bolts on your neck 1488 on you forehead and a swastika on the back of you head. Then some ruins or some dumb shit on other parts of your face. You will look hard AF.
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>>6709578
>tattooing nazi shit directly on your face
Is it your goal to be the least hireable person in existence?
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>>6709863
i don't need to be employed. i get paid autism bux. this might even let me get more

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how much does the average mtf camgirl make?
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trap: $500
passing mtf: $350
unpassing mtf: $100
crossdressing dude: $120
hairy fat man wearing his mom's bra: $150
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>>6709564
per day???
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>>6709569
you bet my man

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Hey !
So my question is not a troll at all. It's pure curiousity.

>Im french and agender, im male an i use male social, ok for me.
>It could be kind of strange for non french initiated, but french has not official neutral gender.

There is not equivalent for it. We have only she and he equivalent. Resulting in the fact all objects has gender, mostly because of language flow, but sometimes very random. For exemple :
>US tables and computers has no sex : "it"
>FR tables are gendered female and FR computers are gendered male.

Lgbt people milits here to obtain an official neutral gender pronoumn.

I would like to know if your neutral gender is naturally used when someone hesitate about your gender ?

Im sorry for this question because i immagine it can be rude for u to be miss gendered : but :

Would you prefer to be potentially missgendered with the wrong gender or not gendered at all (it). Thanks in advance.

Ho, and, Arhem... Sorry for my approximative english. I hope this is understandable at it is a complicated question.
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There isn't really a good answer to this on the short term. On the long term I imagine that language will adapt. English dropped Thee and Thou because people were lazy. Today's English is basically broken according to the formal rules of yore. As the need for a gender neutral way to refer to people arises I imagine that something similar will happen in languages which formerly had no such way to talk about people.
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>>6709430
So, if i understand, in english "it" and neutral gender in general is exclusivly reserved to objects, and people MUST be gendered ?
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>>6709459
Mostly. There's the singular They, which is now considered to be the polite way to refer to a person whose gender you do not know. "It" is never used for people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they

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>serious gayface
>disgusting shrill faggot voice
>caveman's forehead
>long midface (think Sarah Jessica Parker's horseface)
>okay jaw but an alpha male's squareish chin
>extremely tall (at least too tall for a woman) (5'10)
>wide shoulders (18")
>narrow hips (15")
>ugly...
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>>6709374

How old are you, are you on HRT, and if so, for how long?
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>>6709374
>>extremely tall (at least too tall for a woman) (5'10)
Where in the world do you live where 5'10" is extremely tall? Southern china?

>wide shoulders (18")
Holy shit though, that's pretty big, im 5'11" and my shoulders are 13 ". Are you sure your measuring it right
>narrow hips (15")
You have got to be measuring wrong, there is no way anyone that height has hips...
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>>6709374

>Extremely tall
>5'10

okay

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Does anyone here watch this person's videos? If so does anyone actually take these opinions seriously? Sometimes I'm shocked at the amount of bullshit on display here.

For reference... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5Brqo0vSNE
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I've only ever heard about this kid through hate-watchers, so you tell me.
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>>6708917
No this is mental illness on display. This is what happens when the asylums close, it has to go back.
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I've just realised what her face reminds me of. Dreamworks looking bitch.

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>At Six Flags
>See a bunch of lesbian couples, all holding hands, kissing, etc
>No gay couples

Are there more lesbians than gay men? Or do gay couples not flaunt their relationship everywhere?
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Confirmation bias
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You're joking right? Nobody is going to yell at a bunch of lesbians, but they're going to gladly do it at gay men. I think they'd rather enjoy their day without being told off every 5 minutes.
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>>6708543
Yikes love commitment and going on trips. QED.

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Male, 19.

The only relationship I've been in was with a catholic girl, so it never came to any sex.

I feel almost no sexual attraction to either men or women when it comes to porn. Straight/Lesbian porn doesn't do anything. I can only get off to shemale/trap/gay porn.

I feel no sexual or emotional attraction to men (I've kissed some in dares or similar situations). I do feel sexual and emotional attraction to women, but it feels very different from when I (this is going to sound weird, sorry) watch my usual porn.

I come from a pentecostal...
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do you mean like proper gay porn or just trannies?
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>>6708326
Either works, really. Usually tranny or trap though.
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>>6708321
Real or the weeb stuff? If it's the weeb stuff, you better find someone that fits your porn interest and have sex with that person. If you don't get an attraction to them anyways... I don't know if I can help, OP

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Why do gay guys date for a like a few months then break up all the time? Its like they're teenagers always dating people then the next minute they are a thing in the past.
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>>6708296
it took my bf a few months just to break me in right
>I'd be really disappointed if he breaks up with me now that i can handle his massive member during sex
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>>6708296
They are not married, so there isn't any property to split.
They have no children so there is no kids to stick together for.
Entire family isn't likely to be invested in their relationships, so there is no family to disappoint.
Society thinks you're a degenerate anyway, so it's not there encouraginf you to stay together.

It's less a question of why gays break up faster and more a question of why wouldn't they?
Straights have a societal framework propping up their...
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It seems like a big part of the culture is all about drinking, drugs, and promescuity. There's a lot of psychological trauma in the gay community and the culture encourages people to cover it up rather than deal with it. It's hard to form stable relationships with so much bad shit going on in your head. A lot if older guys grow out of the hookup culture and form lasting bonds.

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>straight
>always get hit on by gay guys
Am I giving off a gay vibe or are they just hoping I'm gay?
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the latter
gaydar doesn't exist so most gay guys harass breeders until they get lucky and finally meet one of their own
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>>6708211
that's factually true, but I still puked in my mouth a little bit
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>>6708191
ur probably giving off a gay vibe, i literally never get hit on by gay guys and have been told i look straight a few times

>you must just look gay, why not let them just suck ur dick, free bj

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Ok, so I'm trans (or at least want to) and I wanted the people i cared about to know. So i tell my friends like its no big deal all like "Hey Ally, I'm trans now, so refer to me as Ms. Anon and use female pronouns, i guess" but i cant tell my parents to save my life. Like i hint at the fact I want to be trans but they think its a joke or something.

tl;dr:

>can tell friends im trans, but not family

Why am I like this and how can I change? does anyone else have the same problem?
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>>6708177
You could try writing to them and telling someone else to give it to them. It'd be a little weird but it could work?
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>>6708397
hmm, that sounds like it could work maybe. I think what I fear is confrontation, so if someone else does it for me, then maybe it will work!
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>>6708177
You could always mention it in your suicide note

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I don't like females so,i guess im gay.
I tried with a guy...and it was boring as shit...i was trying to get erected touching him...but it didn't work and we didn't had sex at all because i wasn't exited.
I tried with other guy that's considered hot,and nothing...i touched him,touched his dick...i got a little exited a the first seconds, but not erections at all...i didn't really got turned on by his body,i was good looking i guess? but i touched his muscles and nothing...i was like "this is boring"
Why i don't get erected...
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>>6708148
Because you aren't gay?
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You're an Asexual, Harry. Be prepared for a life of boredom.
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>>6708148
r u sure u dont like females
>maybe u just require more stimulation to get erect

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I'm going to try and write short sentences so there's less for you to read.
I'm gay, 18 years old, and single/virgin. For about a year and a half, I've had a feeling which is becoming more and more intense in recent months. I feel like my body on the outside doesn't match how I feel on the inside. My body is fairly - but not overtly - masculine (broad shoulders, pretty hairy legs, masc face). The thing is is that on the inside, my image of myself is a lot more feminine or at least "effeminate". I love boys and love being a boy, and I'm...
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>>6708035
>>femgen
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>>6708035

Well done you understand why Non-binary isn't some made up tumblr shit. Constantly dysphoric for a gender that doesn't exist and you probably couldn't define anyway, it's pretty shit.

Be androgynous and use hormones where you feel necessary.
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I don't think I want to use hormones, but do you have any tips on androgyny?

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Do gay people ever jack off to themselves?

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Nah thanks.
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>>6707918

not consciously

but i do like feeling up my own chest, it has the twofold benefits of getting groped, and groping in return.
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>>6707918
i like how the outer left seal is hopping and pooping at the same time

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If trannies kill themselves because everyone hates them, why not live as society expects it from them? Being unhappy is better than being depressed to the point where you kill yourself.
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that really makes one think

wow #I'mNotADegenerate now
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I'm confused
What are you suggesting?


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