How do I stop feeling like an eldritch abomination all the time? While my body hasn't changed one bit since starting hormones (apart from gaining big puffy nips that look ridiculous on a literally flat chest) my face changed to a shape I find repulsive. I mean sure I looked pretty bad as a man too but now I look repulsive-er. I can't HONestly look at myself without feeling like vomiting but at the same time I have never been happier (in my mind). Does this sensation ever go away or am I forever trapped in this freakish weirdo hell like when Gregor Samsa woke up and... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>6703189 >I have never been happier (in my mind) This part never goes away. As an exercise, try to visualize what it would be like to stop HRT, how it'd feel to get ever more masculine, lose your hair, get a beer gut, deep voice...
>flat chest I'm guessing you haven't been on HRT for too long. It gets better, with full effects (including fat redistribution which is subtle at first but ultimately really noticeable) after about two years.
So here's the deal. I'm trans and like 5 years+ on hormones. Personally I rate my passing at around 90% of the time and I haven't had anyone read me as male for a 'while'. ('m told it's my short hair that gets me 'accidentally' read as male)
The thing is I'll get random people who stop to tell me that I'm 'super pretty' or 'beautiful' or some other type of compliment. Is this a thing that happens to normal (cis ) women? Or is this a case where I am i being read as male and people are just taking... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>6703107 Oh thank the gods. I was convinced it was just "pity passing" that some trans girls get. And working on the hair growth. I'm black so it's taking such a long time for any length to really show. But I'm slowly getting there, plus people really love my curls. So I've got that going for me.
Are women the biggest drain on the LGBT movement? From TERFs and mothers who try to paint transwomen as pedophiles and rapists, to transtrender FTMs who have worked constantly to delegitimatize the trans movement and image, to faghags, to radfems who try to eliminate gay men from the movement, etc etc it seems to be a persistent issue. What is the best thing that could be done about this?
No, as far as I can tell it's you. Yes, you, the person reading this post right now. You are the scourge of LGBT. It would be best for everyone involved if you just went on to live a perfectly normal life right away. Very sorry. Thank you and goodbye.
Has anyone here ever had anyone tell you to call them pronouns besides he/him and she/her? How did you react? Do you ignore them or go with what they want? I always hear people talk about people telling them their pronouns but have never heard anyone ever had it occur to them.
I'm nonbinary myself but would never blab out my preferred pronouns, I don't tell anyone my pronouns period. It's embarrassing, people are gonna just make fun of me or think I'm weird. Just let people call me whatever they want, even if I don't like it. I'll likely... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>6702809 Yes, three people have. The grammar of it took me a couple of attempts, but really it's no skin off my back.
My limit to pronouns would be otherkin shit like "bun/bunself". To me that's just taking the piss out of lived social realities, and to me it's similar to the people who publicly signal their bdsm relationship. That shit can stay on their rp tumblr and in their bedroom.
So I kind of understand other trans people who think nb pronouns are entitlement. But I'm binary trans and the nonbinary people I've met have actually all been on or seeking hormones. And it makes sense to me that there are people comfortable in the inbetween, after all that's where I ended up before I transitioned.
I postulate that trans women are responsible for mass homosexual acceptance. If it weren't for transexuals, particularly mtf, being so appealing to cis males then they never would have voted in favor of gay marriage.
Statistically gay men are abhorred by straight men. Because they find the lifestyle icky, or whatever nonsense reason. But I digress.
Hey there, non-LGBT here. I just wanted to drop by the check up on everyone here and ask you guys and girls (don't think I forgot about you les-anon) and wondering how your day was going. I made a thread a while ago and saw someone using one of my pictures and that made me really happy. And if you weren't one of the few who dropped by my thread then it's very nice to meet you Anon.
>>6702696 Of course you can anon. Funny thing about the picture is I renamed it because it's what a few people in the thread started calling me and I was hoping 4chan would let me use the same picture. Do you think I should rename it? A lot of people also called me baker/baking bunny.
I thought was pretty good arsenal vs this common claim about low test vs high test and being a tranny: >The funny thing is, I've had people tell me over the years, especially people outside the lifting community that don't understand it, "All you need to do is put in more male hormones and that'll 'cure' you." And I'm thinking, "Trust me, I've tried plenty of that and it... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Love it. This bitch absolutely BTFO's anybody who tries to claim being a tranny is just inferior beta males/low T fags/etc. This person is literally a world champion, world record holder, absolute monster, and many saw him as THE alpha male in lifting circles.
Shatters so many shitty stereotypes about trannys.
Hey trans people: can we kick the nonbinary/genderqueer/agender/demigenders out of our community already?
None of their arguments for why they should be included with us make any sense and all they do is very vocally try to invalidate a lot of our own arguments for why we are the way we are and they make us look bad to the rest of the world.
The vast majority of them are also just cis girls who want attention who then become TERFs and start attacking us when they get bored with the trend.
Hello everybody. I'm extremely confused. I just discovered I might be trans, as in I really just dicovered it. I've never had this kind of thoughts, but I digress, I'll start from the beggining. I'm a 23 year-old biological male, and I have been crossdressing for about 3 years now. At first, I only did it for the arousal, so it never crossed my mind I might actually be a girl, but I've been feeling happier and happier when I do it, to the point where putting on a skirt makes my day in a way not many other things do. Also, I've been feeling more... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
If people assume you are gay together at first and not brothers or friends, you are doing bfs wrong. Somehow even if there are two """masc""" dudes, something about their relationship makes you think lol gay.
Luckily now I'm so comfortable with my bf and I like seeing the reaction to he's my partner haha.
>>6702245 okay then...other than altering his gay ass speech patterns and high voice, how do i convince people? I am a pretty str8 looking guy. I love to hike, fish, and whittle. He spends more time in the lab than I do. He likes movies and cooking more.
Basically, it is obvious that we are complimentary in roles and that he is my partner. There is no rule that says you have to have some sort of straight man friends camouflage.
Hellow everyone ! My partner really wants to turn into a girl. I'm supporting her %100. The only problem is we both don't know how to start. We'll see a doctor about hormone treatment. How is voice training, exercise, meals, etc. should be ? Detailed info would be nice.
Okay. Assuming you aren't going to self med, which IMO you probably should at least minor AA...then voice training can be done within 1-12 months depending on the person. To be honest, most people have shit bone structure and shit musculature and are pretty tall on average, so there's only so much you can do. If I were them, I'd start very skinny before hormones, then slowly increase calorie intake to gain about 1-2 lbs a week until around 20-25% bf like most cis females who aren't athletes.
Now... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Sorry for shit formatting. Since age seven I have been cross dressing, at first harmless curiosity, and the occasional daydream of being a girl instead of a boy. I first started with bras, then progressed into dresses during my middle school years, then onto makeup I overdid and came up with very slutish results. The makeup can around the time I had started getting into porn around age 15, immediately clinging to the she male categories by default, and occasionally browsing boy to girl makeup transformation videos on YouTube. Prior to getting into porn I had a sexual Epiphany,... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I have no doubt in my mind that my parents would eventually accept me, but I don't even want to strainour relationship. Aside from college I am virtually a NEET. I feel strange having these feelings, it is bullshit. I always doubt myself because I have a stronger preference for women, and I feel like a degenerate trying to justify being a woman while also interested in females at all. I still look pretty fem in the face whenever I put my hair down and am still shaped a bit parish, which helps with my average length shoulders. I don't know. I mean, I guess I'm... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Hello , I am so scared and I hate myself. I have been with my girlfriend 4 and a half years and am 25 years old. I have severe anxiety and depression, I have known since I was little I wanted to be a girl but even then tried to ignore it. IT is at the stage now where I am that unhappy that I need to face it, I know my family and friends wont accept me for who I am, My girllfriend has been nice about it but said she would leave me if I chose to start this ball rolling where she is not attracted to girls, I hate how I have to chose my happiness over my life it does not seem fair,... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>6702023 Ah this is called the closeted tranny dilemma. The best thing you can do is persistently say "you know it would be so cool if you were a tranny, i wish you were a tranny, you would make a good girl". Then if they sow signs of hesitation hit them with, "you are still so young you will look great if you take hormones, you will definitely develop more female features".
>>6702045 I figured I'd just comment on his femininity and then ask him if he thinks he's transgender or something. He's not even deep closet as he paints his nails, dyes his hair and has makeup in his closet.
idk. maybe buccal cell halitosis is more normal seeming? i came across articles, and like it does seem to be happening in small numbers (but one patient got a fistula or something somehow?) i could try to go find them, but idk how much seriousness i'm detecting
Be someone of value. It sucks that you were born pathetic. Like, you wouldn't make fun of someone for the color of their skin or color of their hair or if they had cancer, but you were born pathetic and that's ok. Just castrate yourself by way of masturbation and die without shooting up a school, ok?
Here's a funny image file I found on facebook while I was chatting up some of the very men you want to be friends with. Hope you can enjoy this slice from the good life.
Can cis women be LGBT? Cis women, especially white cis women, seem far to insulated by a layer of female privilege to be considered LGBT. We should only allow men and trans people in the LGBT, cis women and non-binary women (women who pretend they are oppressed) should not be allowed.
What the fuck do you have to complain or even be depressed about, if your life is so damned good?
Try being a depressed fuck with no friends, no job, who still lives with his parents and obsesses over that shitty bf that dumped him more than a year ago, with health problems, and then you can see what depression really feels like.
Having a sense of purpose helps, it can be anything you like. Have a dream and follow it, not a lame ass dream about identity tho, a dream like "I'm going to build beautiful motorcycles" or "I'm going to expose the resurrection of David Bowie to be a clone".
I'm so submissive that it's basically my whole personality. I feel like if I ever get into a relationship i'll let anything my partner wants to happen because I don't want to fight it. I almost feel like i'd let myself get abused, enjoy it somehow.
Sometimes I feel like my submissiveness is my personality... Is it possible HRT made it worse
>>6700426 You don't. Far too many desist. Once puberty starts is when you should go to a specialist, then have the kid go to therapy for a year. That's how you clinically know someone is trans: >after *beginning* of puberty >consistent dysphoria; 6 months for adults, 12 for minors
>>6700643 The study that the article cites as saying that dysphoria intensity helps to show which adolescents persist and which don't actually looked and people who turned out trans and then went back. The abstract didn't say to what degree persistence could be predicted, only that intensity generally correlated with persistence.
Additionally, the citation that of the 80% who desisted, 42% ever met the criteria anyway comes out to nearly half (46.4%) of clinically dysphoric kids desisting.
James Cantor, a notable sexologist, shared this article on his Twitter about the subject (he's in the article as well): http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/07/whats-missing-from-the-conversation-about-transgender-kids.html?mid=twitter-share-scienceofus. The article references what's mentioned in the Huffington Post article, and seems to have the opposite findings from the same studies. While 63.3% of kids met the criteria to be diagnosed as trans, the vast majority simply grew up to be LGB adults. Here's a study on the ethical concerns of having kids transition at an early age: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25231780, and here's another one showing how few dysphoric kids actually grow up to be trans: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18194003.
Am I against transitioning as a minor? No. I actually think it's abuse to keep your teen dysphoric throughout the entirety or puberty when transition is known to be the best option. But, being someone who knows what it feels like to be in the wrong body, I don't want cis kids to have that feeling either. So, since the studies find that between roughly half and over 80% of dysphoric kids desist, I don't think transition for pre-pubescents is a good option.
If they can get much more highly accurate results for those kids, such as through DNA tests, brain scans, and other evidence being factored into a diagnosis, I would absolutely get behind early transition. No one should have to suffer with dysphoria.
>>6700145 I would think so. Here is some interesting info about monozygotic vs dizygotic twins and transgender rates:
13 of 39 male MZ twin pairs (33.3%) were found to be concordant for transsexual identity and eight of 25 (22.8%) female MZ twins were found concordant. In comparison, concordance between either male or female DZ twins was low or zero (1/38 = 2.6%; Table 5).
Notably among our responding twins were three sets who had been reared apart and were concordant in transitioning. One was a male set within... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I've been on hormones for 8 months and alot has changed. I'm not even on large doses. 4 MG estrodiol and 250 MG of spiro.
I was wondering if I am cute enough. I started hormones pretty late in the game, I'm 23 now when I started I was 22. But I've always had a much more androgynous look than most biological men.
Only problem is I am tall, 6'2 but I have met a few biological girls who are as tall as me, I also have broad ish shoulders. What kind of tips can people give me about picking clothing?
Another side note about myself is that I feel much happier on hormones than I did before I started. Even though I can't pass 100% of the time mostly due to my height and voice. I feel alot more gender fluid than most trans girls. Sometimes I rock boy mode, sometimes I don't. But I'm cute enough when I wear women's clothing that girls I know and other people think I'm cute and have even gone to work in girls clothing.
TL;DR >Trans girl who is looking for types on dressing myself >wondering if the next 2 years if things will change more I am growing tits, and I feel great about it. >tips on vocal training >hairstyling tips for girls with curley/wavy hair. Trans thread general discussion acceptable, but let's all try to be kind to eachother. Pic related is me about 2 weeks ago.
>>6700141 You pass so well, especially the lips you got a perfect jaw. I fucking bet you feel good on pills! Good on you baby. If you have good legs make sure to use those as your main feminine point and wear clothing that draws attention down there and keep the tops simple and cute. So like skinny jeans, a cute top, or like some sort of booty shorts and like a girl vee- neck type deal.
>>6700359 Wow really ??? Thank you so much... I've been sitting here depressed feeling like I'm not girly enough when I want to be girly. Weird thing is is when I decide I am going to be more of a tom boy during the day I still look handsome.
So v necks and things that show of my collar bone to make up for my wider shoulders?? Also my mom gave me all of her jeans and they fit perfectly.
The thing I worry about the most is how my voice sounds and my height. Sadly there isn't much I can do about... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I havn't used grindr to hook up before(never hooked up with a man before). On grindr my profile pic is blanket, but when guys say hi and ask for pic I usually give it to them if I feel like it might go somewhere, I've done this twice so far, the first time the guy started the dm with a "can I suck your dick?", when he got the face pic he responded with "nice" and never texted me again. The other one really annoyed be because it was from this torso pic(he had no muscle development, he was simply kinda skinnyfat), when I posted my face pic he blocked... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>6699943 Grindr is like fishing. If you want to catch a good fish, you need to cast your net really wide and then toss back any fish that are crappy. One or two people rejecting you is no biggie. Even the hottest guys deal with that. Also in the first case it sounds like you weren't even rejected and you could have probably sent another message or two
I don't think I feel gender dysphoria, since I have no issues with being male, but I am very jealous of the female form.
being a female would be a lot better in my opinion, except for bone density. I would have breasts. shitty mainstream doctors wouldn't remove part of my genitals. the most universally attractive form would involve having a decent amount of fat, so there's eating how I actually want to. Being a heterosexual male, I think feminine faces are more attractive.
that concludes my... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>6699589 Sounds exactly like my repression methods. I only decided to transition after I had a breakdown after somebody close came out to me as Trans and the Dysphoria would never go away afterwards. It might happen to you as well. What do you really have to lose anyway? Sure it's a lot of effort, social shit is annoying and maybe in the end you would be a a straight male in a female body, but that notion by itself is ridiculous because no actual normal male would prefer to be female forever the next time they... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>6699621 this was more of a philosophical post than anything else, so be ready for a WoT
don't you think that some of the temptation behind the trans movement is that you actually can come off as more feminine or masculine through various methods? what if I wanted to be something that definitely wasn't going to work out, like a giraffe?
there's a very good chance that, through what we'll say would be transition to simplify the conversation, everyone labels me a freak and I come out very unappealing?
I've... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
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