Beauty Diagrams: http://imgur.com/r/BeautyDiagrams/new
Informed Consent Providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
Makeup Tutorial: http://imgur.com/a/JO33K/
MTF Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/36HC6ZmT
Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pants http://www.nationalworkwear.com/size_conversion_chart.php
Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
Flappy party link http://www.flappyparty.com/?room0=Tfwonlygirlonv
Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
last time on mtfg: >>3263021
y dont u make a contract with me instead
>Plus I didn't think HRT worked that fast
It does nothing lmao
ive been up since 3am..
well my beds not that big so we gotta cuddle up close like
i don't cry much, i'm just in a constant state of feeling like i'm about to break into tears at a moment's notice
most people can pass okay, it's really only the European Extreme difficulty stuff like trashy's height (sorry trash ;_;7) that'll really stop you. worst case generally is that you look like an ugly woman
gotta understand that a lot of effort goes into the presentation aspect as well. you don't just eat the pills and become gril
>European Extreme difficulty stuff like trashy's height (sorry trash ;_;7) that'll really stop you
why have I not killed myself for being a useless piece of shit yet
no, you probably won't. i'm moving next week so unless you run into me when i happen to be outside or at work it's not gonna happen.
that's mean ;_;
you are an idiot if u think height prevents passing
i know personally at least a dozen ciswomen off the top of my head that are 6'2" and above
why don't you stop trying to tear other people down with your own ignorance and worry about yourself, you faggot
i'll have to return the favor then
*throws kyubey off the bed*
I'm reading about how testosterone levels affect the rebellion of teens and shit. I'm also reading about how our bodies naturally narrow in musical taste. TL;DR our bodies make us rebellious and make us want boring lives when we're older.
I'm sure I don't appreciate it as much as I should. When you don't have dysphoria your body just feels meh, like your body. Content but not 100% comfortable about being in your skin. No one is ever satisfied with who they are or what they look like. That goes for everyone including cis people. I can only imagine it's magnified 100X if I were trans. Gambatte ne and all that, babe.
>make us want boring lives when we're older
ive seen lots of super cool older people!
Rocking out :3c
The fucking guy was like a solid 10 he was soaked in sweat and had massive pupils
Like who doesn't want that
tonight was pretty slow and boring but I made like $50, and some dude offered to pay me (>$_$)> to fly out to florida and get boned by him.
I told him if we talk about it and he's for real, then I can see if he's not going to literally murder me. but idk he's probably full of shit and just typing a fantasy at me so he could jerk off to it.
did Edie get a huge offer to go to fucking south africa with some guy?
What the fuck did I just watch?
Yeah alright you do look qualified. Give it to me straight doc, will you hollowing out my sexual organs leave me without a pee hole? Where will I pee from? I don't even know which hole I pee from!
>are you a dyke
How do I say this? Absolutely.
>maybe u wanted to fugg
Hand holding; you ever done it raw?
i mean i was a pretty boring teenager too though i guess so it's not really my age. i had my phase with painted nails and telling teachers to fuck off and stuff but mostly i'd just go home and stare at the wall and want to die
so since my ex and i are going on dates again and everything we decided to not have sex for 30 days
and now i'm horny af
and i want the dick
and his dick is my favorite when i'm actually relaxed/aroused
If you think about it, that's actually a lot more productive. No more one at a time. It's all out in one go. Thanks for letting me see the light. I hope you enjoy having my vagina. William's been good to me all these years.
High five me son.
I'm saving my lesbian sex for my lesbian marriage.
well like the first time we really met and everything we fucked and it was a m a z i n g
but we started with sex the last time and the relationship didn't go so well the first time around so i feel like maybe i should wait....then he suggested the 30 days and now it's a competition to see who will want to fuck first/initiate it
not to mention modded guy is coming over this weekend and idk if i even want the dick from him
r u 20 years old or are you like 40
i'm sorry i haven't slept in forever and i cried for 3 hours earlier give me this
if u see me irl u can give me a hi5
not until then tho
...the strongest person......in the world (not really)
>styled and colored
W-What colour I was thinking of getting it dark brown
There isn't much style wise I can do my hair is still too short for most stuff and I don't suit the straight bangs sort of thing I get a side fringe typically
I never get gendered female ever ever ever
Only ever got it once from behind
I dress pretty fucking feminine like I can't do much more without wearing a skirt
>not until then tho
I'll scour the city in search of one girl that I recognized on 4chan. Racing against the clock trying to get to her before I miss my chance and she moves hundreds of miles away to never come back. Finally, after days of following a possible lead I come to a dead end and almost give up until a sassy black woman gives me a pep talk. Then I have a stroke of genius and piece together all the clues she left me. I actually manage to find her house, but the elderly couple that lives next door tells me she just left and that if I hurry I might catch her. I yell my thanks and run across the city until I find the glorious Ufufu surprised as fuck when I show up just in time. We don't say anything. You tentatively reach out your hand - I smack it and smile. I finally hit it.
Credits roll. And I'm going to bed. See you at the airport.
I can only imagine what I would do. I have abandoned all social life and never leave the house and nothing really bad has happened. I am pretty sure I am retarded. When I get called a fag I am sure it is going to be a very bad day
That's fair enough. I just personally think you have a lot of potential, but I guess it's not up to me, I guess it's up to the public who live near you and who are shouting insults at you. But don't give up, I am sure you would get there in the end.
shinji is such a submissive sissy little bitch jesus christ
just transition already and stop being such a pussy
>>3265693 lel ur chin is fine. you would be freakishly tall either gender and I think your voice would help. And if you don't mind me adding I think if you did your eyebrows in a, more feminine way it my help. I'm not saying they are masculine they are more neutral
he's a 14 year old who's never had friends or a family in his life, cut him some slack
ikari shinji is my waifu
she* has never had any friends because of her dysphoria and crippling anxiety.
unable to relate to boys around her, and excluded from girl groups.
That is a good while. idk if it will help, but maybe you should just cam (not like that) random strangers on omegle and see if they gender you female. For me, it really helped me get comfortable with the fact that my face was actually starting to pass and it encouraged me to get out more and put more of an effort into my outfits because I used to always go out borderline guymode. Helped me, might not work for you, but yeah, just try do little things and get confidence back up.
I doubt that, but even if it is true, it's a good sign, because people in the street aren't going to scrutinize your every detail, they're just going to take a look and move on. They only stare if there is something blatantly amiss.
>something blatantly amiss
LIKE BEING FUCKING 6'6''
Yeah it's retardedly tall but it's not unheard of.
Besides Zeda is passing half of the time and she is like 6'3 or something high. And I read about some transbian who was like 6'7 or 6'8 who passes.
People are gonna stare because you're tall, man or woman. I know it's not the same, but people still stare at me, but i know now it's not because I don't pass. You just have to nail the look and voice and leave no room for ambiguity.
your 6'6... wow i feel your pain, kinda. makes me feel lucky that im 6'1, still tall but not that tall.
i believe in you. keep at it and become a 6'6 smoking hot babe whose mere presence makes all other women around feel insignificant and ugly while the men dream about you.
do it. i believe.
I made some (>$_$)> camming, and now I want to play starcraft but it tells me the servers are down for maintenance.
even blizzard's twitter says they're down for maintenance.
but there are people streaming starcraft atm soooooooo..... jesus hates me
Not being able to play your games is suffering. It's possible that those streamers are just using third party servers or something. I know that's a thing with WoW, so it might be with Starcraft.
I already dressed for that body type I just didn't know what body type I was I like the open top shoulders stuff but I can't wear the low neckline stuff really because muh ribcage so I'm still pretty fucked
if you're reading out loud, yeah. I found it kinda hard to find good/right things to practice with, but pretty much whatever gets you using the girl voice more and more will be good. (Y)
so like you know how men smell... do trans grills who do the feminems eventually not smell like that? and get the grill smell?
what about their junk? does it smell musky like a dudes dick or does it change sent?
armpits and sweat? does it be the grill smell or the dude smell after some time on the titty skittles?
I NEED TO KNOW ODORS AND SHIT HELP ME WIMMENZ
Ah you know, pretty good as standard. I start university in a week or so to finish my final year. Nervous, but gonna power forwards. D:
how about you, you just had a new tattoo right? What's it like? Tell me everything about yourself right now.
hah sounds like its all on the up for you then. Congrats yo, pretty happy for you.
and aw yeah boobs. I had to cut down to half dosage for like a month and mine shrank a bit, but they're growing now I'm back on full dose.
rapid change in smell will have more to do w/ how hrt affects metabolism and stuff than genetics, same way diet and lifestyle does that, hormones work very slow tho so any hrt changes in the first few weeks would be like the change has already kinda taken place at some previous stage but only just had the environment to reach full potential recently ... so u already had a low t and moderate to high e or something similar, alternatively if none of that applies then it's mostly placebo
You know what triggers my dysphoria more than anything? The fact that women walking on the same street as me treat me like I am some sort of rapist or something. Like I am dangerous just for walking on the side of the road. It not like I want to plow them on the side of 4 way intersection or something ;-;
I only do that with black guys
hello sweets. how you doin?
because I was poor and/or crazy for a while.
You could have, probably. I nearly wasn't allowed either until I bitched them out about muh rights for a month over the summer. I told them to check their privileges, and privileges they checked!
I am just a white person walking down the road. I smile really sweetly and say good morning, she looks down says "hi" and stares down at her dog as if asking for help. It was not like I was paranoid or something I could pretty much hear her heart rate go up to a million.
not sure if a low dose is good or bad, while it's true that no estrogen = poor transition, it's not exactly true that more estrogen = better transition ... as long as the body has lower than male levels of t and higher than male levels of e it will change itself, taking 2mg and going up to 4mg later and 6 mg much later and then trying 8mg sometime in the distant future seems like abetter idea than taking 8mg from the start, like stages of development...
i keep pulling muscles and hurting shit by doing literally nothing more than light stretching. my body is falling apart.
yeah, like after a hot ass band practice or gig where im sweating all over i still dont notice it. i hate sweating so much but it makes it a bit less unbearable.
My mom and I recently compared hairlines, and we noticed that we both have the same widows peak. She hasn't been losing hair, she's just had it all her life.
We were both laughing, but I think when I noticed a bit of hair growth on my corners, she forced her laugh a bit more. I think I hurt her, but I'm not sure...
oh dear lexi, how come? what kept you up?
Yeah, I figured I had enough meds to keep going until I could get more, just only at half the dosage i was taking beforehand. Back up to max overdrive again now, feeling pretty good.
For a while, I was getting morning boners again - and holy shit were they the most painful things i've ever felt. Well not quite the most painful, but it hurt a lot ;=;
:( its not fun.
Hey /r9k/ friends. <3
I found two major things happened with regards to sweating; the amount of sweat generated at the pits was less and was more sweet smelling at around the 5-7 month mark (for me), and the hair regrowth speed at the pits was much slower.
I found that reading college text books, grad school text books, science articles of all sorts, and stuff like that had a pretty calming effect on the "muh genes, muh chromosomes" front, because when u get down to it, it's not a be all and end all system in any way
wow I guess, in 5 years u will be cis
It doesn't ever get better unless you become completely passable. It's why most trans off themselves before they hit 30. They realize that and opt out because they didn't have the facial structure to become attractive.
That's option 1.
Option 2 is to accept you're a fetish for bisexual guys and become a fucktoy.
A bunch of stuff, but to keep it tranny related. I bitched her out about the GRC here in England. She's contacting the heads of the people who run that place now and doing stuff because she pretty much agrees its shit.
I like her.
that is not allowed
I met my Girlfriends parents today for breakfast. She introduced me by boy name and used male pronouns the entire time. I looked at her and she seemed to not even get it. After all that I just went home and cried she has tried to call me like 3 times. I think I am done. Thoughts? Am I over reacting?
Drug cocktail and rainbow coloured sweet assortment
I might get this soon <3 cant wait
Also I got my uni timetable in! cant wait
there's a 6'6" woman on aus big brother this year
i don't usually watch the show but saw someone mention it on twitter and thought of trashy
Is it wrong that I look at some transitioners and quietly think to myself, "You shouldn't have transitioned."? This generally has nothing to do with looks, with enough surgery and whore moans we can all look bootyful, but I mean is more like a father of two and supporter of his family probably shouldn't transition.
In fact Ill go as far to say that you shouldn't transition if you have children under 16. I just constantly see cases of grown men undergoing transition through a marriage with a young child and I can only think about how the child must interpret this and how that child has had any chance of a life of normality stripped away. I guess thats the same argument used to justify no gay marriage-
I think if a kid has two moms or two dads its fine though, so long as their moms stay moms and dads stay dads. I just believe its immoral to force your child to deal with your transition- Once you have children you have an obligation to the child more than yourself.
I dont have children though, so maybe I dont get it. I also grew up in a more accepting time giving me the opportunity to transition earlier, so I guess I should check my privilege a bit.
i could spend so much money on dresses. ive just been browsing online looking at dresses for about the last 30 mins. but shit would be weird if a nervous 20 something guy walked into a shop and started to browse/ try on dresses.
i need a girl to come with me as 'cover'. still th trying them on bit is awkward as well as nerv racking.
I like to think that I do. I just wonder if she sees me as a guy just dressing up. If that is the case then I need to get out of this relationship. I really like her though. Sadness becomes me.
>I just believe its immoral to force your child to deal with your transition- Once you have children you have an obligation to the child more than yourself.
Like yeah it is a massive shock but it's only a shock really because those are our societal values and we will never move forward if we don't get people accepting the fact that some of us are trans.
where do i find those ftm transtrenders everyone is always talking about
yes it is..here i'll be your black guy
Hey little mama let me see that butt
I would love to see that big slab of female meat writhing in an orgasm on my cock
>What would everyone here have as your final meal?
lasagne and wedges
or chicken curry w/ rice
or tandoori chicken pizza
Just go the full route and go for a boy. They wont bitch about social justice and you get to be the girly one.
He could also do stuff like carrying you or holding the door open for you.
And he'd probably have a better sense of how the world works and could come with you so that the mechanics at Jiffy Lube dont try to rip you off for being a chick.
Girls are cool for a few seconds of fooling around because they're pretty but I wouldn't ever want to date a girl again.
But guys are either gross brodudes or beta as fuck, and also don't have boobs
what is likely happening here is she doesn't want to tell her parents "I have a girlfriend," even if she sees you as a girl and normally treats you like one, regardless of whether or not you pass.
and on top of this, if you don't pass, or if she thinks you won't pass to her parents, she doesn't want to explain to them that her "girlfriend" is actually a "tranny".
your girlfriend is a coward, basically.
she is prioritizing her anxiety and fear over her feelings for you.
now you have to decide if you are okay with seeing someone who is too chicken shit to be with you. it's a blatant disrespect of who you are and what you're going through.
being trans sucks ass and your gf is supposed to help you, not insult you.
You don't have to post here.
You could always go to susans
you could always leave
what do you gain by posting here
the smug satisfaction that you're ruining another helpless community?
the happiness of shoving your face in a space not meant for you?
do you get off to bullying people who have nowhere else to turn to but 4chan?
is your life really this pathetic?
I would rather have a tranny for a mother than an alcoholic, abusive asshole pathetic excuse of a father.
the important thing is you don't since your dumb tranny bullshit down their throat. if they want to keep calling you daddy, they get to keep calling you daddy.
sexually yes, and I don't hate guys
also are you real sweg or fake sweg
...with shirt off
...and sexy smirk
the alternative is to join one of the tranny skype groups. there are many.
what's going on with him?
is ash's bf being dumb?
it might be fake sweg but idk how to tell without looking at the archive.
you could also snitch and tell ash
I don't think that's true. A lot of them are but a lot of girls are just retarded bimbos or ugly as well.
Such hostility. Do you kiss your mother with that tongue?
Iktf lol I usually get stupid thoughts about people watching me too. It really brings me out of the mood. Its almost like I need to board up my windows and soundproof my room just to get off.
Yeah it all depends how well you can handle it I guess. I like how it makes me accept everything, whether it's bad or good. I thought I died on a trip once, but I just accepted it and let the trip take hold, as if I was moving on to somewhere new. Same with MXE, which I might take tonight, idk.
I think I'd rather have a night full of shots rather than a night of pizza. There's barely any calories in Bacardi.
i slept for 6 hours
i woke up to rain pouring down and had to go to the shop cause if i didn't go now they would close later and then i'd have no food for the night
You live in the states and can get MXE? I can never find that stuff after 2012. Yeah I normally take 1200mg after taking a 300mg inital dose and then a 600mg lunch dose over about a course of 18 hours for Platue Sigma. It is all crazy, Entities and Angels and OBE/NDE.
Well, if you're certain...
Your favourite beef and lamb steaks cooked the way you like it, lobster, potato salad with coleslaw and chives, red wine of your choosing (I recommend Casillero del Diablo though, love that stuff) and something chocolaty for pudding, maybe a mousse.
Hopefully that meal will make you realise there is goodness in the world worth living for.
I probably should think more like that. I typically just stare at those little cracks in the blinds of my window and I am like yep that fucker is out there staring at me. A lot of times I will wave like a crazy person just in the 1:1000000 chance someone is there they are going to feel like a retard.
I need help.
>non-trans perspective consists of
Not that Anon that was bitching but it does get annoying when otherwise interesting conversations get derailed by him spamming the shit he always does.
>You live in the states and can get MXE?
Nope, I'm a britfag. It's about to be made illegal in the EU though so it's gonna be a little harder to get it which is a shame, I love it.
hah wow, I've read a lot about that but have never got to the point of trying it. Probably because midway through experimenting with DXM I got hold of some MXE and started using that instead. It's been like a year since my last DXM trip.
A shot of Bacardi is like 55 calories or something, and my tolerance is terrible so I only need a few to get drunk. Compared to the amount of calories in pizza I think I'd choose Bacardi.
If you like Psycedelics I recomend 4-aco-dmt it is super rad :D. Yeah sigma is not for the faint of heart it can get really really scary. I have had more intense trips doing that then I have from Salvia Divinorium Extracts.
I actually have some 4-aco-dmt, I'm planning a trip for this saturday I think, depending on whether I have a free house or not. It sucks not having a place of my own, it makes experimentation so much harder. I just want to lock myself up in my house and have a full on experience.
i am being serious i like the concept of drugs and i want to experience different thing so i want to try stuff
i've hardly had a chance to do anything though
only like mdma, dxm and mxe were the cool ones i've tried
Oh. Yeah ,herp, it's obvious, isn't it.
I thought it was some kind of alcoholic egg aspic but thought surely no one would think that's appetizing.
Segway: my boyfriend is turning 21 soon. We're excite.
Human bodies also don't ever store alcoholic calories. They burn it up until it's all gone and any other calories you had in processing get stored so your body can focus on burning/getting rid of the alcohol, since it breaks down into awful stuff inside of you.
Part of the reason why dry booze doesn't break ketosis.
well theres a lot of black guys up here too... they are so rude and gross
What changes can you expect on E but not T-blockers? I know there is not really a reason to do this but I'm just curious. Will the E not do much due to too much T? Will T lower at all due to influx of E? Will you just get a few of the active changes like butt/breast growth but none of the balance ones like other fat redistribution/skin softening? Will it effect you mentally?
i'm not staying away from my tramadol <;
meh i don't have have any right now i didn't like codeine for some reason and well yeah i haven't tried anything stronger than tramal but im so lazy i can't even bother to try and find new pills when i'm running out so yeah i guess i'm safe for now
i'd like to grow opium one day :v
Good luck on the opium for anything other than resin, just because of the amount needed to do anything else with. It is not impossiable I guess but I imagine the feds will not be too happy about 10 acres of White top Opium in your back yard haha. Tramadole makes me super angry face tbh so does codein.
i like changing my nick
turns out its completely legal to grow opium
it only gets illegal when i start playing with em
tramadol just calms me down and everything is great. it also helps so much with random dysphoria almost as much as mdma
like when i take it i can just walk to the mirror and stare at myself and not see every horrible part about myself and the memory stays afterwards
sometimes it makes me really dizzy and i throw up if i haven't eaten probably or something before
i'm really skinny so pretty much all stuff like alcohol and drugs seem to affect me quite well
Yay skinny life! I did not know about the legal nature of growing opium that is pretty neat. Yeah Hydrocodon used to make me super duper sick but it helped me a lot with dysphoira and bad feels.
i don't know too many people so it isn't that easy to get stuff other than from contacting people online and i find it quite intimidating since people tend to do the purchases face to face here(cause its safer i guess)
last time i made my bf go buy painkillers from me lol
Boyfriends are really good for that sort of thing lol. I hate dealing with it because all I want to do is get my stuff and go and they are all like "Stay for a bit blah blah blah" ugh not fun.
I do like SWG, and I don't agree that he is a chaser at all, but I must admit it does get a little annoying when he only for the majority seems to talk about posting butt and fucking. Not that you don't get a lot of tfw no bf posts or whatever but still.