This website had some funny comics and didn't reek of tumblr, SJWs and non-binary stuff like a lot of trans websites do.
Why is it kill?
Where can I get funny trans comics now?
apparently the creator killed herself and the upkeep just wasn't able to be maintained so the site died too
I'm not sure how far back you can go on archive.org but the last few comics are saved.
I've got nothing better to do I'll go through it
I think we can save a fair chunk of them from this site
Probably because some other trans judged her because she was too ugly/straight/lesbian/cis/beautiful/into a guy/into a girl/crazy or some other reason to be judged. We can't have nice things because we destroy them by finding flaws.
Researchers don't agree on that point. What they do agree on is that there are sociocultural influences. It's social psych 101. There may or may not be a physical component. I won't say you're wrong, but at best we don't know yet.
Pure speculation with no evidence: Sometimes I wonder if our own brains can modify our genetic code, throwing off genetic research. It seems logical to me that our genes may mutate in a certain way in response to a social stimulus, thus giving the appearance of a genetic correlation when in fact there is none. We do know that genes mutate while we're alive.
>Dysphoria is physical
Actually gender dysphoria comes from both physical and social issues. Physically your body being something your aren't mentally and socially where people treat you as your see and treat you as your birth sex and expect you to confirm to certain gender roles.
You can't have one without the other and say you're transsexual.
Actually yes you can. Whether you're feminine or masculine has nothi g to do with whether you're transsexual. you can be dysphoric but be a mans man by societal standards. Just like there are cis girls that behave like mens men. Trans are just like cis girls in that they are not restricted on the "social gender" spectrum. A man being extremely feminine doesn't mean he has dysphoria or feels like a woman either
No they don't.
http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Gender-dysphoria/Pages/Causes.aspx Says we don't know.
http://www.news-medical.net/health/Causes-of-Gender-Dysphoria.aspx Says we don't know.
http://www.minddisorders.com/Flu-Inv/Gender-identity-disorder.html Says we don't know.
"The research suggests that..." Means "it's possible, but we don't yet know." It may even be confirmed later, just to find out it was confirmation bias. Science, unfortunately, is not an exact science.
Just because society isn't aware of your struggle, that doesn't mean that your struggle wasn't caused by society. Societal pressures are still a factor. Therapists are charging a whole hell of a lot of money to be quacks if that's not true.
>A man being extremely feminine doesn't mean he has dysphoria or feels like a woman either
Actually yes it can but at the same time it doesn't mean all trans will feel like that. Saying femininity has nothing to do with being female and masculinity has nothing to do with being male is ridiculous. A young person who acts feminine and thinks they should be the opposite sex is mostly likely trans not gay. In our society though we tend to think any biological male that acts feminine is automaticly gay which is not true. Most gays are not feminine and the ones that are do it more for attention so other gays know they're gay. Also it's part of the gay culture now to be feminine so that's also a big influence on gays men.
Being trans is not just about the body, being a man or woman is more then just the sum of ones parts. Social dypshoria is a thing and most psychologists who deal with trans people tend to agree. It's also in the DSM as one of the criteria for trans people.
>actually yes it can
prove it? There is a correlation but it isn't inherent, and there's no reason to assume it's the cause. And if the only reason you transition is because you want to conform it is probably misguided
Therapists deal quite a bit with family issues. Guess what! Your family is part of society and influenced by it. You're as blind as Anne fuckin Frank if you don't believe that society affects dysphoria. It simply would not happen if society was accepting of everyone.
I never said it didn't affect it. I'm saying it isn't the root cause. Your logic is flawed. Hell, family issues be dealt with because they are just that, issues, that doesn't mean that it's necessarily dysphoria
If it's not the root cause, then why are people who experience dysphoria sometimes able to find peace and be satisfied with themselves without physical modification? If the root cause was physical, this would literally never happen.
Evidence suggests that people who identify with a gender different from the one they were assigned at birth may do so not just due to psychological or behavioral causes, but also biological ones related to their genetics, the makeup of their brains, or prenatal exposure to hormones.
Ie, not societal. As I've said, society could influence it, but calling it the root cause is stupid. There's a reason therapy with that assumption has comparatively poor results compared to physical transition
>Gender identity disorder (GID) or gender dysphoria is the formal diagnosis used by psychologists and physicians to describe people who experience significant dysphoria (discontent) with the sex and gender they were assigned at birth. Evidence suggests that people who identify with a gender different from the one they were assigned at birth may do so not just due to psychological or behavioral causes, but also biological ones related to their genetics, the makeup of their brains, or prenatal exposure to hormones.
>Evidence suggests that people who identify with a gender different from the one they were assigned at birth may do so not just due to psychological or behavioral causes, but also biological ones related to their genetics, the makeup of their brains, or prenatal exposure to hormones.
>but also biological ones related to their genetics, the makeup of their brains, or prenatal exposure to hormones.
Do you understand how monumentally important that phrase is? It's the difference between something that is accepted as truth and only believed to be true. You want to believe it, so you do. And many scientists aren't immune to that emotional attachment as well.
evidence suggests that gravity is a thing, stop being pedantic and accept that it is what it is
they are our best guess. That you put it on society is wishful thinking. Social causes need evidence as well, being an older theory doesn't make it more reliable than a new one with more demonstrable evidence, even if research is not satisfactory (although current studies are not inconclusive, just small)
Lol it doesn't matter what you think, It's in the DSM and ICD that social dysphoria is a thing and counts as one of the criteria for being trans.
Take your made up defintions somewhere else buddy.
>tfw now that I have a vagina, while it's still healing for the first couple months I can't cross my legs and have to keep them spread fairly wide to avoid pain and it's all the convenience of having two penises
reminder if you are a tranny you cant go into tranny simulator booths because they make you happy
Evidence does not suggest that gravity exists. It proves that it exists. Day in and day out we have proven that gravity exists.
A physical phenomenon is a hypothesis. Social causes for mental issues such as dysphoria have been proven. It's is accepted as a theory, which means in the scientific community it's accepted as fact (see theory of relativity).
I think you need to take a science class.
The new DSM requires that you have at least three out of five of the criteria to be diagnosed. Three of those criteria are based around physical dysphoria.
Even if that wasn't the case, the current model of social dysphoria is that it's caused by physical dysphoria in that how people treat you is a reminder of your physical body, and from growing up with society telling you that you should act in certain ways directly because of things that seriously distress you. Physical and social dysphoria are not seperate things, they are totally linked, however the underlying root is rooted in physicality.
(not necessarily to say that it has a physical rather than social basis (though if it had a social basis then therapy or medication would actually work and people could 'get over it', which isn't the case), just that it's issues concern one's physical body a lot more than ones social role).
Why are you so convinced that the physical symptoms are proof of a physical cause? Do a search for symptoms that are caused by stress. I think you'll find that the mind can affect the body in ways we can't even begin to imagine.
Captcha: peeme. That's pretty awesome.
Why are you so convinced they aren't, you obviously aren't trans if you have to ask that question
You keep changing argument when countered to defend your position, yet you accuse others for bias.
Your last post is hardly even an argument. Why does anon think that? Because that's what the studies suggest, and what mosts trannies experience
I'm sorry, I must have said that last bit wrong.
What I meant was that the primary part of dysphoria is experiencing dysphoria about our physical body, rather than regarding social stuff. I wasn't trying to say that it has a physical rather than social cause, in fact that last bit was trying to avoid that (and failing).
That said, I totally think that dysphoria has a physical cause, just for other reasons. Either way it really isn't important. The only important thing is things are that dysphoria, no matter what it's origin, is persistent and severe enough that treatment is important, and that transition is the only treatment that we've found that works for it.
I talked about this earlier. the body changes genes as a result of environmental factors. Source cited. Kinda blows the genetic link out of the water (unless you test all the babies at birth and study them for the rest of their life while not letting them know you are studying).
Back to the topic. These theories are related to what we're talking about (theory, in this case, being something that the scientific community generally accepts as fact, not the street definition of theory)
>trying to avoid
Fair enough. No need to debate that then.
>transition is the only treatment
I'm not sure I agree with this. I don't have sources to cite right off, but I have anecdotes (people I know) that dysphoria can be successfully treated with simple therapy. Techniques such as cognitive behavioral therapy showed some serious success. A full transition can be a dangerous and debilitating process. I'm not saying we should never do it, but it should be done only if it's the best option (and it isn't always).
Reference to Clerks 2. One of the main characters was talking about Anne Frank the whole time when he meant Helen Keller. Everyone corrected him, but he kept insisting. I was adding a little humor.
Almost all anecdotal stories I've heard about alternatives were horror stories.
I'd never transition if i thought there were alternatives that were viable. And honestly, the psychological community wouldn't wither. Transition works, conversion or acceptancw therapy does not
Regarding your thing about genetics; the most accepted model of a physical basis of transsexuality is that of 'Problems during gestation or birth' rather than genetics.
I haven't heard of a genetic explanation for years, especially since the ratio for transsexuality being concurrent between twins (even when the twins were raised apart) is about 33% in both identical and non-identical twins (if I remember correctly) which is concurrent with something fucking up in the womb and affecting both children.
Given the fair amount of data for what you seem to be attacking, albeit incomplete, you're going to have to bring another medical theory to the table with just as much, if not more empirical evidence to be taken seriously by this board outside of a "nuh uh it's completely and totally a social construct."
the website would have been brought back up if that was the case even if she was on a break
>You'll never have comics like these
>Now trans comics are about "muh transphobia, muh social construct" or offensive and unfunny shit made by tranny haters/bigots who have no idea what's a trans
I love this one. You have to be really deep into trans stuff in order to get it.
I can't really relate to all her depictions on how hard transitioning is.
That's just, I don't know. Her comics were such a big chunk of my life, kept me alive you know, and now she's dead. Isn't it a reason to think that maybe we're supposed to live miserable life and die like this. Maybe there is no other way for us.
idk tbh I am quite happy sure it's sad that so many kill themselves but I'll just stay positive and focus on good stuff in life rather than keep focusing on every transwoman that kills herself
So, did anyone manage to archive any, or if possible all of them before the site was down?
I've got some of the zips and rars she had in the old archived stuff section, but not the stuff you're probably used to seeing, just her really early stuff that wasn't up on the main chunk of the page where the comic was. Here's a link:
Would be amazing if anons could do their part and upload what they have into an archive, I'll miss her comics.
It's quite depressing to see that she ended her life.
I guess is proves you have to be at least somewhat delusional to survive as a tranny even now, the fact she was cynical and din't seem into any stupid SJW hugboxing bullshit proved that, given people like Brianna Wu: professional victim™ (nice that she made the tweet and all, but it doesn't make up for what she's done and still doing) are still alive, this is true..
just stupid SJW shit, also made an awful game for iOS that was later ported to PC and was somewhat more awful.
It's not really important, and I don't follow gg stuff anymore as I'm too apathetic, so I'm not gonna bother digging up links or anything.
Lol I love this comic. So much going on. The women on the right is transgender. She sees the young girl (who's also trans) wearing the trans symbol shirt and assumes she's just a young cis girl making a fashion statement. The man on the left is completely oblivious to his "son" being transgender and thinks the women is mocking "him" for being fem by calling "him" a sissy. When actually she's calling her a "cissy" thinking she's cis.
I love the young girl's expression lol. Just caught in the middle of this ignorant clusterfuck.
okay, I know you all have no particular reason to believe me, I'm not even really a 4channer, but the comic creator is a friend of mine and she is not the person mentioned in that twitter message. she doesn't know the briana wu twitter person and the website is down because she stopped paying the hosting fee due to costs.
that is all I am going to post on here since I don't read 4chan normally, but there are enough people who are really dead to be sad about. you don't need to be sad about this one being gone too.
see here >>4014462
unless it was a different evelyn
but why would the website still be down if she was doing other stuff?
it would take half an hour at most to get it sorted or even point to a temp page that says
>sorrie the host went down and I am fixing it in my spare time
but its not, the bill wasn't paid and so the host pulled the plug.
I like that she doesn't try to sugarcoat the negative effects and difficultly in transitioning, too many trans writers trans it like a fix everything button.
Still that might just be my inner republican talking.
We just don't have comic artist like this anymore...
god I relate to this so much.
I had the best fucking life you can imagine before I transitioned.
I was making 90 FUCKING THOUSAND A YEAR at Verizon slinging phones to business. I was one year away from my degree.
Then I decided to transition.
I lost my job.
I dropped out of university due to all the hate I got.
I was having a threesome with my girlfriend every month
We were going to get married & have kids
I had to move in with my grandmother
My entire family stops talking to me
I lost all my friends
I lost all my hobbies
I got fat because I stopped going to the gym from all the hate/looks people gave me
I can't leave the house now
My grandmother died so I live alone now & my mom pays all my bills(Fucking pathetic you don't have to tell me)
I say about 5 words a week, and that's to my mom when she calls on Sundays after church to make sure I'm still alive. "Hello. Yeah. No I'm fine. Okay. Love you too. Bye"(That's literally all I say, all week)
I feel so alone in the world now. I feel like I don't belong here anymore.
I feel like the only escape at this point from this sad pathetic existence is to just kill myself
This comic is perfect
I think it's the opposite. At least on 4chan. Trannies here always talk about how transitioning is soooo hard.
I transitioned. It didn't fix every issues because not all my issues is about being trans. But it wasn't difficult either. Just eat pills and buy new clothes.
Wait. Does this mean all this time I'm supposed to have been sitting with my feet/knees touching? LOL
Made a terrible game for ios, ported it to PC with no improvements whatsoever, faked attacks against herself, forged hateful comments (she made a discussion thread on steam about how terrible she was, but forgot to log out of her dev account), and is an attention whoring professional victim that lives off mommy and daddy's money, and makes every MtF look bad.
its part of a comic arc, she took part of a competition including several challenges, one of them was to stop taking hrt for a year, another was to tell her parents she wasn't really trans so she could win $25000 and finally afford SRS.
failure of any of the challenges invalidated her entry.
You are literally full of shit. As >>4020803 said it was just part of a comic arc. There is no deeper meaning, although I suppose a situation like that is pretty probable if you come out as trans and later detransition.
literally the comic right after
all the self hatred and dysphoria is back because she has been off HRT for a while
Everytime that comic tried to have a narrative it was horrible. She really should have stuck with gag comics. Now everyone pretends she made good story focused comics just because she killed herself.
nah I was the one who posted these two >>4020827
that whole arc wasn't very good and was way too much a very personal thing based on fictional events surrounding a fictionalised version of her and her friends.
I was hoping she would do a bunch more great and funny comics once she was done.
But I guess she was done done.
This joke is bad.
And I'm saying this having enjoyed many of these other jokes.
You need a penis to use a urinal properly.
If you're using your vagina to piss in a urinal you're only making your own life unnecessarily complicated. No one fucking cares if you use the stall- Men use the stall all the time. Using the Stall is the Gentleman's piss: privacy, comfort, room to wiggle your dick dry AND toilet paper to finish the job.
The Urinal is not some right of passage for you to spray your idiotic ftm vagina piss everywhere in an attempt to prove how much of a man you've become.
trannies be craycray
>no seriously they are. and transition is the treatment
Does anyone have that link to a study that shows gender variant individuals are more likely to have BPD, schizophrenia and narcissim issues?
you understand that females pee out of a uretha and it comes out in a straight stream, just like men's?
girls learn to pee standing up at like age 6. Or whenever they feel like it. it's a stupidly easy trick to do.
it just feels a lot better to squat
>and you can take a little poop too
Wow that's a fairly sharp turn of events. Hopefully an equally sharp turn of events points you back towards your own happiness.
You deserve happiness, if everyone on Earth was happy we'd never fight. There'd be no reason.
Anywho, good luck with all that. And don't let peoples hateful looks get to you. People are scared of the "consequences" of treating trans like normal people they want you to feel as scared as they do. It's intimidation and that's all.
Yeah and I honestly believe being trans comes first; besides, you can't be diagnosed with a personality disorder before 18 and schizophrenia in children is exceedingly rare. And even if either of those were present it doesn't mean you can't be trans too.
>Sometimes I wonder if our own brains can modify our genetic code, throwing off genetic research. It seems logical to me that our genes may mutate in a certain way in response to a social stimulus, thus giving the appearance of a genetic correlation when in fact there is none. We do know that genes mutate while we're alive.
Fuck man, this is so incredibly wrong.
Look up epigenetics, it's a bit like what you're saying, but your post belies a fundamental misunderstanding of genes, DNA replication, neuroscience and biochemistry.
In the story arc, the one girl is complaining about wanting SRS. Meanwhile one of her friends finds a website that someone makes a dare and pays the first person to provide proof they did it. On this site among other things she finds a dare with the qualifier of having to be completed by a transgender girl, the prize being SRS. The dare is the person has to go off HRT for one year, complete 4 mystery challenges, and vlog daily about the experience. I forget the first two, but one of the challenges was to "detransition" to their parents, seen in comic posted, and one was to wear a "I'm a tranny, ask me anything" sign in public and answer any question asked. Basically at the end they find out the person who made the bet is making a avant-garde movie about transgirls and tries to scam her out of the money but she gets it anyways.
It was unrealistic and dumb but I have no life so I read it basically so you don't have to.
Damn, that's messed up.
I'm really curious to read it now. What were the other two challenges? Is any of this archived anywhere?
>I read it...so you don't have to
Whatever, Nostalgia Critic.
Ive seen CBT work positively as well.
Whats hilarious is people are quick to dismiss CBT because ~anecdotal~ but im pretty sure there are no positive studies on "transition" as therapy for dysphoria, only negative.
people are quick to blame radfems for closing down so many gender clinics in the 70s but honestly it was the doctors who did it, who were convinced current methods (transition) werent working.
i have yet to see transition work in the long term.
on this planet, something about my body and genitals seemed wrong to me and got me depressed long before I knew about the physical differences between male and female
all I knew was that the thing I have isn't supposed to be there and didn't feel like a part of me
>dismiss CBT because
The AMA and others have stats saying CBT is not only ineffective, but dangerous. On the other hand, they say HRT has by far the best outcome of any treatment.
>i have yet to see transition
And now you think you know better than the whole medical community. I'd get some CBT for your delusions if I were you.
found a bunch of em on waybackmachine, working on archiving them, gonna post some in the meantime. This comic deserves to be passed down
Ah the good ol days, back before tumblr and srs spread their intolerant bullshit everywhere. So glad I transitioned back then
it really grows on you
This is probably my favorite out of all her strips
I'm running out of stuff that I've archived, gonna start on the old stuff that >>4014522 gave a link to. I've never actually even seen that stuff, thanks whoever you are.
In case some of you yung-uns don't get the general joke here, this is from back when the big "trans community debate" was between young transitioners who weren't sure whether they wanted surgery and didn't wait for a doctor's approval to start hormones, and the old guard, the women on Susans and Rachel's Playground, who were very anti-diy and advocated the 1-year trial period, the late transitioners in general. Back before transtrenders really came into style, that was the drama, I mean, we had to find some way to let out all that estrogen-induced crazy.
I'm not sure if I agree with the way Evelyn poor portrays late transitioners, but some of them could be quite mean and jealous, so let's just go with it.
There's a mediafire link for the older series somewhere up near the top, but when I'm finished finding all the strips I can I'll make an archive.
Glad to do it, this comic was a lifeline for me back in the day
That's all for now folks, gotta get to work. I'll post more later tonight
I remember that. I really like this arc because it reminds me of stuff I went through. No one was ever more adamant about misgendering me than the old late transitioners back when I first started years ago. I'm happy I didn't let that get me down. It is crazy the difference a few years make. The situation for trans people is so different now with tumblr, transtrenders, and SJW. We are the old guard now. Even if many of us aren't really that old. We are a different generation.
But why? If it made you happy, why not want other transsexuals to be happy?
Because older transitioners are more likely to be hons, which implies non-passing and perhaps a rough life and unaccepting family/friends, much more difficult transition process, etc. This can all mean that they're bitter. Imagine having a terrible life and amounting to a hon and seeing a pretty young transitioner. Not saying this applies in all cases, but there you go
or just read this lol
>This can all mean that they're bitter. Imagine having a terrible life and amounting to a hon and seeing a pretty young transitioner.
I started transition at 23, and can at least say that this is a massive problem for me. I know that it's horrible that I feel bitter towards those who have had and will have easier times in transition, but it's really difficult not to. They are basically living the life that teen-me didn't have the courage to fight for. I'll forever be an unpassing hon, because I took until a suicide attempt for me to accept that not transitioning wasn't a choice. I do my very best to be happy for all of the young teens that are getting acceptance, love, and full transitions these days, but it certainly doesn't completely stop me from feeling envious.
It's a small community, how many good webcomic writers would you expect to find? It could be better for sure, but the thing that drew me in was that it so well illustrated what I was feeling and going through. I didn't feel so alone in the experience, and being able to laugh at myself really helped sometimes.
It took me a month on hrt before I was passing enough to go full time. I first met the woman in question during an event at a nearby college about trans issues being done by their GSA. I got there early and asked about the trans spokesperson and they directed me to her. We talked for a bit and she seemed upset at me being full time and passing so soon after I started transition. She also asked me if I had any cosmetic surgery and seemed upset again when I said no.
We then did some group activities since she was there to educate us on trans issues, but she was too angry at me that whenever I had to say something or raised my hand she would sir me for no reason.
The organizer of the event told me I should try and talk to her some more and gave me her contact information. We emailed a couple of times, but she was just very negative and told me she doubts someone as young as me could know for sure. I wasn't even that young, just 17.
Years later I had a couple more run ins with older trans women, and they mostly seemed hostile.
As I get older, I am afraid I'm becoming bitter like them. We as trans people will never be 100% happy with where we are. The fact that we are trans will always leave us feeling cheated out of something, be it a normal relationship, a childhood, a family, or one of the many other things that we might have never had or lost during our lives. The important part is that we continue to move forward to a better place in life than when we started, anger, bitterness, and jealousy don't help anyone improve their situation.
I'll be your friend.
I know I don't know you, and you don't know anything about me. But I know what it's like to feel completely alone in the world.
I don't care of your gay/straight, male/female/ inbetween, cis/trans/whatever; everyone deserves companionship.