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тЦ╢Minecraft Server: minecraft.is-so.moe
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just like you joce! also i love all the music you've linked so far 2bqfah, straight into the faves
>tfw just thought about shitposting a new black pill, blue pill, iron pill, redpill called the grill pill
Someone who goes on /pol/ and does that stuff should shitpost the grill pill lifestyle there
people liking my taste in music is such an ego boost for some reason lol
>just like you joce!
who you tryna fool here?
I actually am in love with that song though. Like holy crap. Reminds me of Harrison but better. And Harrison is amazing.
>I don't know
Find out. If you're at 2 years and don't have female proportions with those measurements you're probably underweight.
You're 5'10". So am I, I pass fine.
Harder to fix, not sure what to say :(
Pick hair that hides the worst of it, carefully apply makeup, and save for FFS
>man sized hands
Again, same, not an issue.
that is pretty amazing, reminds me of san holo a bit
also i wasn't fooling!
it's not a crush, i just want a friend to listen to dank future bass with while we blaze up tbh
>tfw hair is a nice color and the boy i'm talking to is really nice and sweet and makes me feel even happier when i talk to him
i'm feelin good fam how r u?
>tfw started hrt at 20
Why did I even try?
No changes from hrt in two years ;_;
Growth in terms of height, not in terms of everything else. Women can still get breast growth spurts well into their 20s-30s depending on events that affect hormonal balance, like pregnancies.
Who else here /disproportionatelysmallwrists/?
sorry i got distracted watching undertale gameplay
you can add me on skype or steam if you wanna keep sharing music!
>captchas are fixed but maybe it's just this one captcha
skype is plexikit, steam is rotten_kiwi
i do like a lot of different kinds of electronic music though so i might end up sending stuff other than future bass
yeah im already a 32dd and my mom is 32 so like i doubt i'll get much more growth but still kinda neat
if only i'd stop gaining boob and gained more butt that would be great tbh like body srsly wtf is wrong with u
how da fuck did this women get this body. how can anyone with a y chromosome have those hips...wtf.
My family is watching american sniper and I'm struggling to not yell at them for being islamaphobic bible thunpers with a hard on for shitty movies about shitty shit shitters
Sleep away the sad times.
Everyones boring tonight
I am going to drama post in a minute like the trutrans girl that I am
You probably would. Even if hrt makes your reaction time go down
>pic related is me
have you started assembling your halloween costume yet?
>even if HRT makes your reaction time go down
Thats pretty trutrans tbqh
>tfw HRT makes it so you give girl directions and can't open jars
heh heh just a kitchen knife
*unsheathes giant katana
WAPSHHH WAH WAH WAH
heh bringing a knife to a swordfight this is going to be cake tbqh fam :^)
Girls on average do have lower reaction time tbqh. I'm pretty sure it's neurological though, so idk if hrt would actually do anything...
>can't open jars
That's a serious problem though, you meanie ;-; I can't carry freaking anything anymore either.
>mfw boys make incredibly shocked blushy faces when you compliment them
you know what's sad is that like in the last few relationships i've been in the guys told me that none of the women they were ever with really complimented them, but often expected compliments from the guy? how sad is that? like sure lots of guys can be assholes or whatever but when you're in a relationship with a guy and you aren't trying to make him feel good and raise him up and make him more confident...? idu that. it must really suck to be a boy. on the bright side they get all happy and cute when i call them beautiful or handsome so i guess it could be worse.
heh heh fam thats a big knife for u...
id show you what i got but i was bluffing the whole time i dont have a katana but i got this instead heheheheheh MUAWHAWHAHWAHHAWHAHWAHWH
im just picking on you tbqh its what real men like myself do. we pick on girls because i can fish better and drive better than you :^)
>tfw no mommy wommy
>moms never made me tendies
>its what real men like myself do
>repressed trans girl
Oh honey....this tough guy act of yours is cute.
We love Tay-Tay edition? Yes we certainly do :D
I want to guess the trips of these two anons
hmm not sure who this could be
Jocelyn go to bed
I actually dont have any guns but I want to get some. I feel like it will fit the military stereotype
I am already walking aboive people saying RESPECT ME I AM AN AMERICAN HERO to my dad
I push him around telling him he should be grateful for me
All a part of autistic banter tbqh
I don't think im a little girl tbqh
I used to drop trip and insult myself back in the days since nobody else did tbqh
Thats literally the only person ive ever dropped trip to insult. I don't hate or even dislike anybody here tbqh
I thought it was really funny because it never happened at all. I am saving the best insults against me tbqh
>OLD MTFG WAS BETTER
>mfw everyone just talked about dog sex in the dog days of summer in august all day
You should see my whole arm
Haven't been on whore moans for long so I really need to shave it again, still got that disgusting androgenic hair growing on it instead of vellus hairs.
>mfw I do it for free
>mfw I do it because it is the only amount of power ill ever have in my pathetic life
>tfw i wil never be at a healthy weight because of cheetos
>tfw I take twenty minutes per response because of the large backlog of little chinese gril cartoons that I have to watch
Its the internet its not real its not like ill ever meet any of you.
Just memes and dreams here
Maki you're going dress shopping with me tommrow!
The same reason I make racial, edgy jokes. I don't get really affected by things at all unless its serious. Once I turn the computer off I don't think about here I just go about my own thing. I get insulted way worse than this all the time regularly and I think it's funny. I insult my friends and we insult each other.
I think people take imageboard culture too seriously and take themselves too seriously. Anyone can insult me because I know who I am on the inside and I will never let another person tell me otherwise. I am proud of every single thing that I have done or did in my life and I am proud of everything that I am. Why would anybody ever get affected by anything? Especially impossible standards on this board. I love and respect myself enough to know how to take a joke.
only if I get to watch you in a dress tbqh
im still single babe :^)
>literally born on a boat
>lived first few years on a boat
>grew up on an island surrounded by sea
>was dragged to and made to attend sea scouts, which is like a special forces for scout fags
>caught fish for dinner with family during boat trips
>spent summer breaks on 2 and 3 masted sailing ships (playing indoors on a playstation most of the time)
>never pulled my weight
ur both probably was better at fishy stuff than me tbh ;~~;
y-yeh freckles are so qt
also nooo ur eyes are way qtier tbh!! o.o;;
You're probably better at it than me. I'm actually not that good at it. I just did it occasionally when I was super bored.
You're voice is so soft and adorable! I just wanna hug you into oblivion whenever you say ilu <333
I took that test but there was no answer key or fuckin anything, so posting.
>1. If I had a magic button that you could press that would make you wake up tomorrow as a girl, with everyone else understanding you and relating to you as a girl, irrevocably but painlessly, would you press it?
>2. Alternatively, if I had a magic button that you could press that would make you wake up tomorrow still as a boy, but without any of the gender issues you've been having, not questioning your gender, and able to live happily as a boy with zero dysphoria, would you press it?
Nah, I like myself, I'm the same way with fetishes, they add character, imo.
>3. If I had both of those buttons, which one would you rather press, all other things being equal?
The first one.
>4. If I had a test that could tell you if you were a guy or a girl, which answer would you be hoping for as you took it? Which way would you try to skew your answers, if you did (consciously or not) try to skew them in either direction?
Not really sure tbh, I want to transition so in a psychological setting I would hope for girl.
>5. If you washed up on a desert island, by yourself, but with any amount of both male and female clothing, with no hope of rescue but otherwise everything that you needed for a relatively healthy and happy life, would you choose to present as male? female? neither? a mix of the two? one way some of the time, the other way the rest? If for some bizarre reason a lifetime supply of hormones washed up with you as well, do you think you'd take them? What if you washed up with the button from the first thought experiment - in a situation where you were by yourself, would you press it?
If it wasn't a survival situation and like I had a house and power and stuff, then I would go full girl.
>6. Let's say I had a test that asked about all of the things, very thorough, and at the end it would tell you, with 100% accuracy, whether or not you were trans. So you take it, and it tells you, "Well, you've got some mild gender confusion, but you're definitely not trans, and you shouldn't transition." How would that make you feel?
Understandable but dissapointed.
>7. On the other hand, what if the test told you "Yup, you're definitely trans all right, and you should probably start planning your transition." - how would you feel about that?
The thing about it all is I don't think I actually have gender dysphoria, I mostly want to do it for sexual reasons.
I don't feel like a girl on the inside at all, I just want to be one.
BEST SOUNDTRACK EVER
who needs a vacation, /mtfg/?
>tfw I have a qt grill who I met on here lying in the bed next to me right now.
I wish I could go one day without life being completely shit.
I have an ugly man skull that will be revealed as soon as I've lost enough weight and I'll never be able to afford to fix it.
My best friend detransitioned and hates me because I can't deal with it.
My brother hates me still and has blocked me from ever being his friend on facebook again.
People wonder why I am so self loathing and its like, wouldn't you be... when there is no joy in life and the only common problem with everything bad that ever happens in your life is you.
>tfw the cute boy you want to cuddle lives on the other side of the country
>tfw qt boy who is okay with you being trans
>great taste in things I like
>lives in another country
>most handsome guy on the earth trying so hard to seduce me
>just stop plz
>trying for days
>o-ok i admit it, im into you
>ignoring me since
i hate myself..
Can I ask why LGBT people are generally more friendly than straight people?
If I try to engage in conversation with an mtf they are always friendly, straight dude? Nah bro fuck off.
Why, friends are friends.
Well I meant all straight people, with just 1 example. The women say "fuck off loser"
One time one was nice enough to pick me in a group game though, that was fun cause it was a 6'6" dude playing basketball against 5'2" people.
>go to bed at 1 AM
>wake up at 5:30 AM
>can't get back to sleep
fuck and it's my day off from both school and work. Well, early morning tea I guess <3
yea probably will do that. although it's football all day...
>tfw I know no matter how gay and feminine I get I'll always love football
amg i was so exited as well ;~;
and now I have go to make foood
i'll be back soon girls
>told faye about my first time
>"this girl got me drunk, dressed me up like a girl and i just went along with it...and then she fucked me on her couch"
>Faye: thats hot
baseball confuses me but soccer is interesting to watch sometimes i think, maybe
it's very very veyr very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very beta, and i dont really want to talk about it much, but basically, i was really attracted to this person for a long time (even though they treated me poorly, weren't really "my type" and other stuff), but too much of a loser to really say anything, even though i felt like they were attracted to me as well, and i basically asked them about it a few days ago, and the answer was that they weren't into me even in the slightest, even though they found me extremely attractive in a "platonic friend way"
that sums it up really im just a turboloser is all it comes down to
I want to eat some nuts too underneath the blankets if you know what I mean...
it's actually the worst rn idek if i wanna go in or something. i think someone called in sick or something like that tbh but i feel like i've worked alllll weekend ;_;
oh shit haha
well football for me has always had the most strategy. Baseball and soccer just seem like regular skill based sports to me idk I know they both have strategy I just don't pay attention to it that much I guess
Richard Grayson, he's an acrobat!!!!!!!!!!!
ohhhh, is ee isee
well most all i know about sports is from watching my brother play, and baseball always seemed to "luck-based" to me; plus its boring much of the time.
ive watched football a few times before and i found it...very violent I guess? idk, it just isn't interesting to me at all
soccer is regular skills i think, but more coordination, and like, pro-soccer is good when the teams are evenly matched (note, that I've watched MAYBE a dozen pro-soccer matches), and it's a constant exciting tug of war, moreso than other competitions
but i really am not into sports much at all
oh, it's okay, i should have done that and gotten over it years ago, but i suck soooo. I am just trying to not be concerned with the fact that other people just aren't actually attracted TO me; even if they think i'm cute or w/e w/e; but this is why single women have cats :')
>work calls, they tell me they'll need me today
>"you'll be working on the BBQ"
I hate working on the grill. Sigh, I don't wanna go to work.
Anyways, good morning.
It is HELLA grey and windy over here, it's wonderful.
How could you not love t-swizzle? I like her older stuff better though ngl
Well I don't like you so there!!
[spoiler]j/k i love you bb[/spoiler]
Commissioned my nonchalanced reply a thousand years in advance
i'm okay with my noodle
Hey everyone. First post here, first trip. I finally decided to start transitioning a few days ago after seeing that I have a chance to pass.
Congratulations, good luck, and do your Ganbatte!
Congrats, and welcome. Saved your pic, so here's one that you may like
>tried legal highs and shit last night
>had virtually no effect me
>friends were talking about how long their hands were, putting cutlery and shit down their shirts etc.
>all top banter and nothing went wrong except I tried to use the bong instead of vaping one time and it burnt the inside of my throat
>getting a lift home
>keep seeing girls stumbling about throwing up and shit
>it's club night at the university
>we see one girl fall over and she doesn't get up again
>decide to give her a lift
>when she gets in the car she's crying unintelligibly and we can't tell why she's upset, though she has no phone, key etc. on her
>they take her back to crash at their place before taking me home again
>meanwhile they all spent the last 5 hours getting their shit fucked up in a less socially acceptable way and are perfectly fine, and sober again already
Why is alcohol the legal drug??
iktf, although I only just took my 4th dose ever of spiro
me me me idk why
hm now I want to die again
I believe so, yes
it's fucking "exCited"
god this pisses me off even more than definitely/defiantly
also, shoutout to the guy in the campus shop just now with the 'rainbow dash' hair, mlp represent...
well what can I say
it kinda is
well, time to meet up with my sister for breakfast and come out to her! I was going to yesterday but she canceled...so now I'm 2 days nervous haha. Wish me luck!
rofl! torchic is another one of my favorites. Torchic, Jigglypuff and Venonat are my weaknesses.
Thanks for the warm welcome guys. Right now I've been doing some vocal exercises but I'm really not liking starting in falsetto and moving downward. Is the goal to work on the muscles towards the bottom to eventually hit a more comfortable pitch? I don't like how high pitched my voice sounds at the bottom of my falsetto and Viotlet on youtube suggested just slowing raising pitch from the bottom and her voice sounds fantastic.
The flu happened to me once and it was one of the worst things I've ever experienced. I hope it's not so bad for you.
I'm just laying in bed still. I wish I could get someone to deliver some breakfast and milk and take my trash out.
I'm trying to get a friend drunk so she can give me an orchidectomy with two bricks. I even said she can hit me in the face with a brick to knock me out first, but she isn't having any of it.
i could compromise and go with one thats 5iv missing SpA but i wanna run fire blast on it ;___;
i got my 6iv venusaur in like 3 hours why is this one taking SO LONG
I JUST want to run a new team why is it so hard
yeah it's excellent
i got to eat a nice jacket potato for lunch and idk what tea will be but i hope its good too!!
before transitioning, were any of you girls interested in science and engineering, and after transitioning did that interest disappear? I read an article about a woman who took T and soon developed an interest in STEM.
just wondering if HRT has any effect on personality and interest.
idk, i always hated math but i kinda like chamistry and biology
now i hate math even more but i still think about studying biology in the future
on the other side biology is a typical female thing here
and i hate math so much
yeah, i'm more into art and design stuff too
or language stuff
but math is pure shit tbh
so nothing really changed through hormones, something maybe changed through not repressing anymore though
Eh hem... one boyfriend please.
Yeah I can spend a bit more on a higher quality one but don't go too crazy, ya know? I'm not going to use him that much.
(: thanks erin.
all of this is so scary and exciting at the same time. it's so much nicer knowing i have others around me going through something similar.
I'm still battling with repression (pre-transition) :-/
Some days I'm a STEMlord ubermensch dude (or trying to be), others I'm a sensual grill (or trying to be)
Antipsychotics have subdued my dysphoria for the most part.
Sorry what's the difference? I try to express any interest I might have, but most of them tend to be fleeting and at appreciated at face value or how it might appear to me in a romantic ideal.
I GOT IT I GOT MY 6IV THANK YOU GOD YESSS now i just have to breed the gengar and im set
venusaur is the mega for this team
its kind of an experiment though, i have no idea how good this team will actually be but i THINK
the first time i used a trip i accidentally put a space on the end of my code and ended up not using the wrong trip the next time i posted
yeah!! we're all in this thing together, so we gotta stick together and then we can make it
does anyone here contour your face/nose? I want to try it and need to find a good tutorial but all the youtube videos about it are like looking-like-a-drag-queen 101
>working in the afternoon yesterday
>lady comes in with her two daughters
>wants to get smartphones for them
>help her out
>super friendly and helpful as always because this job is my life
>"oh wow you're so nice and helpful, you should be a flight attendant."
>me: "uh w-wut..."
>"the guys would love you"
>me: "um, uh, thanks, will you need a bag for these?"
well, for example you might have an interest in fashion, but not express it before transitioning.
so it's not like you suddenly developed an interest for fashion, but you might feel more comfortable to express it.
I don't remember how long I've been at it now but..
I dunno if I'm done with it, yet.
Sometimes I like it, something I don't care.
But sometimes.. it makes me feel bad.
I think maybe just having it there isn't gonna help me out with wutever I'm trying to do.
I'd romance any ethnicity.
Sounds like you're in a shitty situation. I just wanted to say that I think you're real cool for listing a non-helium noble gas. Most people don't realize that any inert gas will do and a heavier one would probably work better.
And no, she had a house and bathed like anyone else. Lol seriously? She was cute. We dated for a long time. This was before I transitioned though.
She had this really beautiful puffy vagina that I still get dysphoric thinking about.
I mean, the place is a third world country. We talked about that a lot. Comparatively her family was super rich but they were just basic middle class wealth here. The literacy rate is something insanely low like only 30% or something.
Yeah she and all of her friends in college who were from India would watch that crap.
>I'd romance any ethnicity.
Seriously though. I don't get it and I'm from the notoriously racist part of the world.
Deep down in your heart you know those movies are terrible. You have to.
wow thanks! this made me feel about 00.01% better.
the only reason i say argon is because most helium tanks are diluted because of the helium exit bag meme, and argon is very cheap and works exactly the same and isn't diluted... yet.
>must be a fun place to live.
Ehhhhh idk I can get the same things I like about the southern US from living in a place like Atlanta that I miss every day.
However people have been extremely kind to me (with a few exceptions) about me being trans which is something I never expected from this state.
U.S.? across from which side to which? I actually have a cousin who moved across to oregon and cut family contact till after transition
who someone is as a person is what matters first and foremost especially for if I wanna date them or not and if I rlly like someone then it's not like something like race is gonna make me stop
old england is lame
well the thing is I kinda rlly love terrible movies, they can be more fun than good movies
Hi everyone. I've been lurking for a little while and I finally decided to say hi ._.
I just woke up \(^O^)/
>I actually have a cousin who moved across to oregon and cut family contact till after transition
yeah... that's the plan... illinois->oregon...
T R A N S M E C C A
actually i was thinking Eugene instead of Portland... it's beautiful there... or maybe Beaverton...
It's nothing special
it's just i was out in town yesterday
and it just seems like everyone of my friends is in a relationship now
and all the girls are just living their lives and are being treated like girls
and here i am, alone and and looking like guy and it's nearly impossible to do something about it
so yeah, just a bad day like every day
At the mariott in Atlanta. I'd be there all next weekend!
Do you anything to do, like, as an ambition? x:
Art, craft, some kind of humanitarian thing?
Last night was pretty crazy, though..
I still can believe just how much of an effect it had.
I saw you posting in the gendering thread, I think?
yeah sorry tagged the wrong post. and that sucks...
i guess i have more time to work on my team before we battle...
you know i've never actually had fish and chips or that taters and sausage dish you redcoats like. i guess it would be fun...
i am like pinnochio though... you could take your hand and just pass right through my face... i am not real...
>I kinda rlly love terrible movies
That's totally acceptable. I feel the same way about horror movies.
Is that a picture of you because if so you're kind of hot.
Deliverance is based in Georgia btw
Yoooo! Let's get dinner and go to Joystick!!!! Will you have a car? That hotel is far from downtown.
I'm from Canada, is anyone else? n_n
I already have. I'm Wawfull from r/traps. And id rather not have to take pictures today. It's a lazy day.
yeahh i'll let you know as soon as i got internet and we can battle & trade some stuff!!
>never actually had fish and chips
thats it im buying you all the food i can afford if you ever come here
i love running, but i broke half my vertebrae about 4 months ago so i can't run anymore. i got out of my brace a few weeks ago and tried to go run while on some painkillers, but ended up screaming and crying in pain about halfway through and basically had to crawl my way back to my apartment.
i play on my university's CSL dota team and kind of have a crush on the captain so i have been trying to get good to impress him but that's probably not happening.
idk, trying new things seems like suuuuuuper hard for me now.
Yeah it's me. Check out my androgynous selfies :D
No, I won't. x:
I'd be there on the charity (and will to finally meet me after knowing me for years) of a game dev friend of mine.
He's buying my ticket and train ride and everything.
Sounds like not being able to run is doing a number on you, huh? x:
That DOTA romance sounds adorable, tho. : 3c
I wouldn't give up if I were you.
As for trying new thing, I mean, I dunno..
Running is a pretty wonderful passion. Do you just need to wait longer to heal?
You know, I am pretty into your steez either way.
>it just seems like every one of my friends is in a relationship and I'm alone
The worst..iktf, except now my friends are getting married.
I'm sorry to hear that though. I'm sure things will eventually get better for you, it just takes time. In the meantime, I know my words won't mean much, but please accept a therapeutic cute animal video
Chin up! ^^