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old bread >>5039434
So far I've found 102 books of Izaya x Shizuo.
Some days, I just think that I could be happy being a feminine boy
I'm not even sure what I'm doing anymore
My boobs are coming in and now I'm so unsure of everything
I might live life happier if I just don't transition
I'm not sure what to do
what do, mtfg
(in unrelated news, I really want this and I'm mad that I can't have it or probably anything like it)
>tfw I finally found a qt boy
>tfw he's my friend
>tfw I don't know if he's into me
>tfw I'm not out so it doesn't even matter if he is, he wouldn't be interested anyway
someone shoot me
But I was never very masculine, that's the thing
I've always had slim-er shoulders and wide-ish hips, and I'm not very tall. That, and I look very "cute" in the face- before I started transitioning, I was your typical "pretty boy" type, if you know what I mean. Not masculine, but still good looking.
Just do what I'm doing and target your legs in two-day sessions doing cycling with medium to heavy resistance, with a one day break in-between.
It's making my butt and thighs bigger AND I'm losing weight and getting abs, it's a win-win.
As a bonus, it's burning off all my guyfat, and when I gain some weight back it'll go to the right places.
What do you mean with physical changes?
Noticed no change in your skin, or anything at all?
Your bones won't change if you start at 17, you're practically done growing at that age, and E is only gonna put the growing to a halt quicker.
I suppose so. I'm just not sure.
I'm extremely torn because I want to be strong, I want to be able to be slim and cut, but also be feminine. On days like today I feel like I'm making a mistake and that I'll never look good, but on other days I feel like it's my only option. I'm just so torn up and worried that I'm maybe throwing my chances at living a good life out the door in the hopes that something will work... that just might not. That I might not even need to do to feel happy.
I mean like growing boobs
I'm on a higher dose now and I'm growing boobs
Also, you're wrong. Bones grow until 21 and I've /definitely/ noticed my hips widening, athough not a ton. I've been taking measurements, and they're definitely getting bigger, slowly but surely.
leffen travels to usa for a tournament and gets deported
tsa collusion against the swedish menace tbh
patrician taste tbh
that looks really strange, what it it??? o.o;;
a good life??? it depends on what u want tbh
if u take hrt to be a fem boy then get that straight, and alter hrt dose to reflect that
if u want to have kids with a girl then bank sperm or stop hrt now
if u want to live as a female then keep taking hrt
>Bones grow until 21
Yeah, the finalization happens there, like all the shoulder bones settle at that age
>I've /definitely/ noticed my hips widening
I definitely doubt it.
The pelvis is usually done by age 16, so starting hormones at 17.5 shouldn't have any effect on it.
Fat or whatever going there isn't actually "hip widening".
Starting at 14 or younger = having feminizing effects
Starting after 15/16 = preventing the heavier masculinization, may benefit from very slight bone feminization, mostly it's only adding benefits to feminizing soft tissue
Starting before 18-21 = preventing the last spurt of masculinization, last chance to have any increased benefits of soft tissue feminization.
Starting after 21 = May prevent some various additional masculinization, and probably avoids heavier balding. Most soft tissue benefits are gone.
>ast chance to have any increased benefits of soft tissue feminization.
But that's wrong, anon. People who start transitioning at at any age have softer skin and have their fat move around their body (That is, given that they lose the weight and then gain it back)
actually it was like a week ago
pls stop posting pictures
technically bones continue to change and adapt in the long term throughout life but there aren't any studies for longterm effects and it takes like 10 years for the skeleton to replace all its cells once or something
but in normal ppl bones technically continue changing until old age so u just have to wait long enough lol
other things are much quicker, like lungs take about 6 weeks to replace cells, and skin takes about 4 weeks
huh I thought u got all of ur facial hair lasered early in transition
umaru can you please get a trip because I was getting confused yesterday and didn't know if you were really being nice to me or if you were being mean to me or if it was you or what and I am confused enough as it is trying to figure that stuff out even without impersonatstors
>posted the wrong pic
No makeup, obviously
>tfw boy I've liked for a while wants to have me over to watch anime and cuddle soon, maybe go out to dinner after
>tfw everyone at my new job thinks I'm 19-20 years old
Today has been lovely for me. How are all you ladies doing tonight?
oh gosh, u looked really girly before hrt too tho a few lil clocky flaws that are gone now!!! o.o;;
idk who it is or what has set them off, but it is someone who knows me, knows other trips, knows my relationships with other ppl here, and comes to the thread a lot and posts all day apparently ....
actually I think they post more than I do, and post when I'm here and not even here, dunno when they sleep ...
even if I got a trip it isn't going to stop them trying to cause trouble
basically yeh, that's it elanna, also I don't listen to nirvanna or w/e or say weird things like that >___>;;
Why are so many tumblr mtfs so horribly bitter about cute guys wearing shit like thighs highs? So many seem to think that if someone has a penis they can only wear "women's clothes" if they identify as a woman which seems to go against their idea of gender roles being abolished. It's so ass backwards and reeks of jealousy.
>talking to crush about standards of beauty and how i don't like them
>compliment him and he starts gettin blushy again
he's sooo o oo o oo ooOOO oOOoOo o cute
mtfg always date nerdy boys who don't know how cute they are, a tip from me to u
So I am on Hrt and my nipples have started feeling warm and slightly uncomfortable to touch. is this the beginning of the legendary nipple soreness everyone talks about or is this something else?
I don't have one on my comp that meets those standards, and I'm looking pretty trashy atm, but I've posted pics before and go on TV from time to time.
Yeah, that was about a month before starting hormones. I swept back my bangs and didn't style my hair, because I wanted pretty much a mugshot photo to look back on and compare to.
That means your breast buds are developing. Congrats.
I wish my bones would just heal properly
>mfw limp is always on and noticeable, so it looks dumb when I have to switch
I'M SO EXCITED FOR TOMORROWWWWWWWWWWWWWW AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
nah it's a little more but not much tbh, u might get an inch pelvic width over 50ish years but it will be so slow that u will never notice it
so technically bones continue to change, but the speed of change doesn't agree that inches of change in the span of less than 5 years is remotely likely
I mean it's probably mtf or a trip so maybe they wanna be friends with u??? o.o;;
omigosh I am so excited too jocelyn!!! ^^;;
I'm also a lil jello u all get to hang out up there with edie and ufufu and the other cool east coast ppls ;~~;
this though tbh she looks better as a girl hands down. Leave the male attractiveness to her brother.
>I mean it's probably mtf or a trip so maybe they wanna be friends with u??? o.o;;
no I mean, they know I am desperate for your friendship because I am pathetic so they were building me up to knock me down?
I'm just hanging out with kiwi
we're gonna share music :^)
Dollface is strangely close to where I live though (like small world strange), but we both suck at transportation and I think I creep her out low key sometimes so we don't hang. I'm not really great friends with Ufufu so chilling would be awk, we just kinda talk on here sometimes but it's usually chill.
Little red head femboys are my preferance
I love baby face boys ^.^
I actually think her boymode was more attractive than her brothers. Probably not in any objective sexual way but it was so cute. I don't go for that stereotypical sexual look I like cute more than anything.
That really does mean a lot to me.
Whenever I go to /soc/ I just get hit on and I assume that they're lying to me because they want to fuck me
I've seen a gender therapist
There was a time that I was completely certain
I'm not sure if that's still the case but it also might just be my chronic uncertainty
Here's a less kind angle of my face
(sorry I look like a fuccboi in all of these photos, I was taking them to try and get a new tinder profile photo)
This is kinda why I'm unsure of transitioning, though. I look good and I don't want to ruin my life, but I'm not sure if not transitioning would ruin my life even more
Ugh, all this uncertainty. I wish it was easy to just... get an answer. But if I wait, I'm fucked if it turns out that transitioning was the right choice. I don't want to end up looking old and masculine, but honestly given my genetics and family history I'm not sure if that'll ever happen.
Were you doing your hair and eyebrows as a male also?
Youre so cute im not sure if I like your boymode or girlmode more.
You kind of look line reviewbrah but he's a total cutey also
>tfw creep everyone out
people here say I don't creep them out and that I'm nice and whatever else and then if I see them on facebook I send a friend request and its ignored...
to paraphrase mr plinket... you didnt notice that I'm creepy, but your brain did
either they think I'm creepy because facebook recommended them and I was all
>i know these person/s
or they know I don't pass and can't pass and they don't want someone like that as a friend because it will ruin their stealth
oki... I dont know what that is tho
Need a profile photo to judge brow.
From the front you look good.
Only thing is that you have a slightly wider chin, but I think it's well within female ranges, and maybe it's just the angle that makes it look wider than it is.
>This is kinda why I'm unsure of transitioning, though. I look good and I don't want to ruin my life
So you don't mind being male?
>But if I wait, I'm fucked if it turns out that transitioning was the right choice.
Why wouldn't it be the right choice?
Do you have like a big body or something? Or what else is it you're worried will fail your transition, or are you even afraid you'd fail transition?
I would absolutely love to, I want to go to katz deli in new york and also somewhere where they serve soup dumplings and have one of those disgusting hot dogs and bad pizza
you know home alone 2... yeah... I wish I could have a new york christmas adventure too.
I hate being poor :/
They have a point. Once I knew what transition was, I didn't agonise over it, I knew I wanted it. I didn't care if I ruined my life in the process.
It's a big decision but if you're that indecisive it's a bad idea.
Pls no x.x
Maybe at some point. I have a bad habit of rarely ever taking pics, so it may be a bit hard to string together.
Not gonna lie, it's like 70% awesome, but I kinda have to make myself look really frumpy if anxiety gets bad that day. It went from everyone ignoring me when I was a faggy boy to "Omg let's all stare at and say weird stuff to her". It can get to be more than a bit much a lot of the time...
I kept my hair girly, but I still don't do anything to my eyebrows. They just grow to be naturally slim and super-villainy.
O-only if you promise to play mmo's and larp with me >///<
I didn't really mean it in a bad way .-. It's just that he's new at this and I'm still getting used to the whole 'everyone lusting after my brother' thing.
I think it would be cool to have blonde hair again, but it decimates my hair ^^;
>Dollface is strangely close to where I live though (like small world strange), but we both suck at transportation and I think I creep her out low key sometimes so we don't hang
why do you think you creep me out lol
Which should I develop first? Most domains will be resold.
Just got back from a trift sale, like from people moving back to their country that lived in the school dormitories. Bought a bunch of girl stuff and only 3 of them fit.
How many black skirts is too many? I have like 4.
Also what do you match with black skirts?
Yeh, if dye didn't damage your hair so much I'd have a different colour every week. My sister was dyeing hers once a month for a while and her hair started falling apart
doubts and being worried about making the wrong decision over something that can have massive negative repercussions, especially if you are young with an unsupportive family, is pretty normal
thinking about that stuff doesnt make you not trans or mean you shouldnt transition
>So you don't mind being male?
I do mind it. I just think that I'm able to tolerate it currently because I look naturally effeminate. I would /much/ rather be female, but I'm at the point that I'm set up for a very successful future and I'm afraid about ruining that. Plus, my looks currently make my life a lot easier and I'm aware of that.
My shoulders aren't that great
Neither are my hips
I'll get a photo in like 3 hours when the showers are empty
That's the thing, I can't tell if the doubt is whether or not to transition, or if it's just me being a pussy.
here, I dunno if many ppl plan on using it tho, but it would be nice to hear some of ur driving tunes again
celebrities did a charity song to raise money for awareness... of "timmy"
and ended up raising nothing because that kind of thing is self masturbatory... it was commenting on the fact that nobody was actually doing anything and instead commercialising this event, to the point there was a carnival erected around the well.
this was back when the simpsons was doing social commentary and satire and not just
>homer and bart meet justin timberlake and wacky hijinks ensue
I'll let myself out.
>but I'm at the point that I'm set up for a very successful future and I'm afraid about ruining that.
How is it successful?
Would you say a hon that has a billion dollars is successful?
Pretty pointless with the money and whatever if you're a hon. It's not being successful. A completely passable trans girl that works minimum wage is pretty much more successful (though, not like she can do much in her life...).
Being successful is being happy.
>My shoulders aren't that great
How wide? From side to side? Measuring D2.
>Neither are my hips
How wide? From side to side, at your widest part?
I was thinking of developing sissify.me into sort of dating/personals site in which sissies post profiles requesting assistance feminizing themselves (extending all the way to requesting a male to live with), profiles of would-be male sponsors and a section for chatting, before and after pictures and miscellany
Not really x.x I recognize my brother is an 11/10, but I'm not into that.
Same here! I want my pink hair back >.< I looked like Lightning from FFXIII
I guess incest is a popular fetish...
I want nothing more in life <333
It's pretty neato when I'm not scared of everything
Which has nothing to do with this.
A true hon will always be a hon, no matter the amount of money.
Surgery can only do so much... If the hon is 60, and even large and masculine for a male, no amount of money can fix them being a hon.
>They say money can't buy happiness....but those niggas weren't rich haha.
Money can't buy happiness.
If you lose everyone you cared for, got sever PTSD, as well as severe delusions. Money isn't gonna do shit, you'll be miserable.
That thing only goes for people who have a good life, for them obviously money will make them happier.
That would be the audience. Ideally, MTFs would join for the purpose of establishing relationships and finding financial/emotional support.
Sissies would have the option of posting premium content.
Until my roomies leave
>How is it successful?
My father is a becoming a well known (Slowly getting up there) actor, and because of him I have ~a shitload~ of industry connections. Also, I was born into an upper middle class family, so I have a lot of things going for me.
That's the thing. If I could press a button and be a girl in an instant I would. But that's not the reality we live in. I'm not sure if I'd be happier just living my life with my fairly lucky card in the lottery if life, or if I'd be happier transitioning and dealing with the health issues, the very real possibility of looking terrible, and all that shit.
Yep, it would serve as a platform for people like you. Males like me would be after sissies to totally dominate and customize. The potential to fall into something sincere would exist, but you'd essentially be marketing yourself as a piece of meat to start with (in exchange for a male with resources to facilitate your transition).
It wouldn't be more scandalous than a dating site with a few extra layers.
Yes, but MTFs are fine with that. Provided they're made to feel as though their owned and protected, they'll accept sentiments like mine. Like it or not, most males who profess an interest in you are chasing novelty, complete control over a weaker male (to make into a plaything) or both.
You think you'll be disowned by your family?
Not to be mean, but you don't look like the typical guy... If they were bigots they'd probably already gotten rid of you, or at least threatened it.
So you'd rather be a rich man than a fairly financially well off girl?
I'm gonna ask for your opinion on this cause I'm bored and have butterflies and can't sleep
left is a month before hormones, right is 7 months (almost 8 now)
Not wearing any makeup or abusing lighting or filters or anything. What's the damages, fam-ages?
As an example, I'd put you to work jacking off in front of a cam (and occasionally getting fucked in the rump) as another income stream. I'd allocate a portion of your earnings to customize parts of your body I deem appropriate. Almost every element of your appearance would be analyzed, measured and made arousing -- you'd be functioning in a highly clinical environment when not performing chores around the home (or just relaxing with video games, whatever).
Because it's an example, using two extremes.
You think anon is gonna suddenly turn 60 and get 1 billion dollar if anon decides not to transition?
Stop being such a pathetic autistic loser.
Your eyes are really pretty, if you don't pass in that second pic you're really close, which is nice considering no makeup and short hair. You're gonna be total qt if you put in the effort. Like absurdly qt. [spoiler]and you're already an upgrade from Cheska, you earned that d jocey![/spoiler]
No, I'm not afraid they'd disown me. I know they wouldn't.
People don't tell you this, but life throws you a lot of freebies if you don't look ugly. It throws you even more if you look good, and I'm aware of this.
I'm just not sure if I absolutely couldn't live with being a guy. that's the thing I'm stuck on. I know I'd /rather/ be a girl, but can I /not exist/ as a feminine dude? I just can't tell.
Also, no offense taken. I'm well aware that I fit the "pretty boy" stereotype at the moment, and have for most of my life. Genetics just kinda favored it, I guess. A lot of people assume that you're a bitch because of it which sucks, though.
>using two extremes
The first one is def more possible to happen then the latter tbh. My point is if you're trying to convince them to transition using an example like being completely passable then you are giving them false hope.
Stop being a hugboxing tranny that tries to convince everyone to transition to be as miserable as you.
If placed in such an arrangement, how compliant do you imagine the average transgirl would be? I'd expect total submission within the content of serving as a wifey -- bending over as needed, cooking, being my bang-maid. Would the prospect of being rejected and tossed out shape your behaviour considerably?
Thanks for the encouragement. It will serve as a nice pool of mates for me (and a useful source of income -- chasers would be charged something for messaging/content).
>My point is if you're trying to convince them to transition using an example like being completely passable
I'm not, it's just your severe autism that makes you see things.
Get a therapist.
Being fetishized is virtually unavoidable, and that's something you'll need to come to terms with. There's middle-ground, sort of, in that some males are capable of viewing you as a fetish and a source of affection/companionship.
My site would cut through the bullshit and you'd be exposed to males willing to potentially take you seriously and take ownership of you (sponsoring your transformation largely on their terms).
>but can I /not exist/ as a feminine dude?
Why the fuck would you? Because you can? That's dumb.
>People don't tell you this, but life throws you a lot of freebies if you don't look ugly. It throws you even more if you look good
You literally think it's worth more to get a free milkshake by some gay man, than to a girl?
So stop bitching and transition if you rather be a girl.
If everything doesn't work out perfectly, I bet your family can pay for some surgery you want.
>Would you say a hon that has a billion dollars is successful?
success is being and doing exactly what u want in life in the moment u live in, so it's really relative imho
I think if u want to measure success from the perspective of society that being rich and influential in some way beats being passable at burger king
money can buy happiness tho, buy meds, plane tickets, surgery, homes, food, anti depressants, education, and any number of things that let u progress in life
being poor definitely makes life much worse tbh
y-yes lets do it ^^;;
omigosh pink hair!!! <3
You'd have the option of posting videos/images of your transition and receiving massive feedback. Meanwhile, a male interested in sculpting your body into a source of sexual ecstasy (through surgery, injections, hormones) would take custody of you.
>money can buy happiness tho, buy meds, plane tickets, surgery, homes, food, anti depressants, education, and any number of things that let u progress in life
So, money can cure cancer?
Money can't buy everything. If money could buy everything it'd give you happiness, but there are some things you need in life that money can't buy.
Nope, autistic freak.
I'm pointing out what success really is.
Having money doesn't make you successful, but doing things that are important to you does make you successful.
Not having money just puts some limitations on you.
Somewhat, but also imaginative. You know what drives Instagram? The female thirst for attention and worship. They live for the stuff. This extends to a subset of MTF transsexuals who will feel immense pleasure from eyeing raw figures of males who jack off to them.
No, I mean freebies like
not some free milkshake
I'm obviously not articulating myself well here.
I'm just torn between living life as a dude, and being okay with just being a feminine dude (because I know for a fact that a lot of stuff like body hair, hueg muscles, strong jawlines etc disgusts me if it's on myself) or transitioning.
Since life has thrown me a more feminine body to begin with, I'm wondering if it's worth it to change it or be happy with what I have and live in moderate discomfort.
my prediction is that in a year you'll fail boymode almost always and look cis by the 2 year mark. just keep growing your hair out, that will also help you a lot. your face has changed a lot tho which i think is pretty obvious
Part of being a successful website operator (which I am -- I own one the larges fetish sites and collect thousands of dollars in webcam revenue each month) is reducing humans to basic drives and capitalizing on those drives/needs.
money cant buy happiness but it can buy the next best thing
I look like the most obvious trans girl in existence and people still seem to like me
money can buy cancer treatment and buy surgery which can save ppl from dying from cancer, so yes, money can increase the chance of surviving cancer drastically
>Money can't buy everything.
being poor doesn't but anything tho
as I already explained, money buys many things and opens up opportunities that can drastically improve quality of life, and if that isn't happiness to u then idek
>Nope, autistic freak.
Lol I don't think you're using that meme correctly fam.
>I'm pointing out what success really is
>the trans girl making min wage would be happier then the rich hon
So according to you transition is success right? lol
>Having money doesn't make you successful, but doing things that are important to you does make you successful.
Poor people always say that haha.
>Not having money just puts some limitations on you
aka a shitty life.
Do you think he'd rather have his illness and the money, or not have the money but not have the illness?
>money can buy cancer treatment and buy surgery which can save ppl from dying from cancer, so yes, money can increase the chance of surviving cancer drastically
So the answer is no.
as in what??
the fleeting emotion that all humans experience no matter their economic spending power????
or do u mean it doesn't cure bipolar and manic depressive disorders?? poverty doesn't help with those either fyi
Not that anon but reality is less like porn/trap doujins than you probably think. But hey if it takes off then all the more power to you. I'm sure there's a niche for every possible thing
Yes it is, in that you'd obtain something resembling an ordinary relationship. A male willing to render you his wifey, keep you around, protect/guide and validate you is something you crave. For simply being treated as a human (with feelings) you'd (literally) bend over for such a guy.
You're like recently 18 (if you're not, then shut up).
You don't think you won't get any more masculine than you are now? Most of us somewhat feminine at that age, and almost all of us could pass as girls at age 13-14.
In a few years you'll look like a regular guy.
Do you want to look like a guy, and get big favors from gay men. Or do you want to transition, and have a fair shot at living as a girl?
Ok, lets set you up with a deal.
You'll be in an accident, you'll be paralyzed from the neck down, and lose ability to speak.
You'll be kept alive, and you'll get a billion dollars from an insurance company.
Are you gonna take the deal?
You have the money, so you can buy yourself the happiness you want.
without his illness he wouldnt have had the time to withdraw internally to discover the nature of black hole theory and would probably be relatively unknown but still wealthy and normal.
I am pretty sure he considers the illness part of who he is, but like I said, without the money to afford him long life he would have died forty years ago
I am serious
the rich get away with murder, and if you are rich and say you are bored then you are a very very very stupid person. this world is big enough with enough stuff to do and knowledge to learn that it would take several lifetimes to try.
Most MTFs struggle with being treated like novel pieces of meat. Some of us view you as both novel and easy to dominate, but also having the potential to give rise to a potent bond.
it's relative, but certainly someone in poverty in africa dying of disease and unable to get dirt cheap medication is not going to be rich
if u have enough money to be able to do everything u desire without making concessions or having a negative impact on ur life, then u are personally rich imho
well the other side of the deal is that I'm paralyzed neck down and have no money, now I can't even be steven hawkings and will die in an abusive nursing home
His mental capability has nothing to do with this.
We're not arguing that "having extraordinary mental capabilities makes you happy". Money didn't buy him that intelligence.
Would he rather have his illness with the money, or not have his illness without the money? He can do whatever he wants with his life, he can still be just as intelligent without the money.
>well the other side of the deal is that I'm paralyzed neck down and have no money
No, it's not. Stop with your retarded strawmen.
The other side is that you live the life you live now, or just some ordinary cis life in a first world country (since they will complain they're not happy).
he can't go back and not have ALS because its genetic, either way he would be wealthy but the point was and is that he has been able to live a relatively normal life despite ALS because he is wealthy
Except you're absolutely wrong. If I chose to date a dude, it would have to be someone who depended on me to take care of them and respected me as the dominant party. The reverse would only be true if i were dating girls.
And beside that, you seem to be operating off some idiot notion that straight men would never date a trans woman, or tat trans women are only dated as a novelty. And while that may be majority of the truth, it's not absolute. Personally, i don't think i could date anyone who needed or wanted to have sex.
The argument is that if you have money you'll be the happiest, no matter the circumstances. You're arguing that he's happier in a wheelchair dying wit the money, than being healthy and without the money.
You're a rarity in that you fashion yourself a top. I'm referring to the broader population of MTF transsexuals who are essentially extreme male homosexuals and desire complete domination.
There would be room for female (chasers) and male (bottoms) on the site. In fact, I imagine you'd have immense success extracting money from some weakling who wants your cock.
uhh no it isn't, I'm not the one crafting absurd strawmen tbh... but like I said u have set ur mind on something so it doesn't matter
ppl can get hrt cos of money, even if they don't pay it directly it comes out of taxes, but not even that is gonna sway u at this point
but he was wealthy before his health deteriorated, and was born with ALS
if he had not have had wealth, he would have died in his early thirties being unable to afford care.
you're constructing a what if scenario just to tear down, you are strawmanning.
he is perfectly happy just being alive, thanks to wealth... if he were poor beforehand he would be a gravestone.
People that live comfortable healthy lives aren't happy.
But money can buy happiness.
That means, no matter the circumstances, even if you're a veggie, or completely paralyzed, you can buy yourself happier than the average person.
I'm making comparisons, you retarded shit head.
I'm not SPECIFICALLY talking about hawkings.
I bet half of you aren't even trans, just autistic enough to think you're trans.
You're saying somebody that is completely paralyzed, shunned by all of society, has lost everyone they will ever care about, is in chronic physical pain, and a myraid of painful mental illnesses, can buy happiness.
Again asexual. In terms of relationship, a power bottom.
And again, your vision of trans people is eschewed. None of us are male honosexuals gone off the edge. We're females of varying sexual complexities.
And some more advice: most trans girls don't like using their genitals at all. And they want relationships, not sex work.
What do you think of this as sort of a preliminary logo? Just threw it together -- something minimalistic but effective is what I'd aim for.
Does this look normal for a year and a half of hrt? I'm a ginger, so the freckles are unrelated, just feel like my tits are god awful looking.
comparing eating chocolate to walking out the door is not even close to the amount of wear and tear you put on your organ systems with hrt
for this reason is exactly why you have to see and endo for the rest of your life
You sissies are on the verge of surpassing western women in terms of desirability. You possess an intense desire to emulate that which is conventionally feminine, please your mate sexually, and you have a massive fear of rejection which makes you easy to control. You'd enjoy playing wifey and serving a male without being combative or recalcitrant in the slightest.
>why you have to see and endo for the rest of your life
Endos know next to nothing about sex hormones and a lot of doctors and shrinks are still actually puzzled why the hell it's endos who are involved.
Minor bloodwork every couple of years is mostly a redundant safety after a while, and is mostly to justify coverage of future prescriptions.
I have never, ever seen an endo. I haven't self medded in 8 years.
anyone going take Kayla's offer for free weekend in warm socal island, ALL EXPENSES PAID?
I find I get what I want with greater ease when viewing people as instruments with a basic set of drives (taking into account inter-individual variation). I know what buttons to press.
I said validation, which is what you sought and got. You'd use a platform through which to seek affirmation/validation on a regular basis for the sheer reassurance/comfort of the thing. There's no shame in wanting to receive positive attention from people you desire as suitors.
Can I get some feedback on this logo? It's rough.
Be honest, more than a handful of you would sign up to receive attention and potentially find someone to finance your feminization, right?
>tfw I'll be in NYC tomorrow with family
>tfw joce and kiwi are gonna be there too
>tfw you're only 15 and repressing and your family will be there so you can't be a third wheel for their date
>tfw I'll never hang out with the big girls of mtfg
>mfw 7 months of HRT + better makeup + better hair + better lighting
the way you style yourself really can change a lot tbh it's weird
no one is saying there is no risk, but unless you have other health problems or need surgery they essentially don't matter.
as long as you are getting regular blood tests its not something to be concerned about and it sure as hell shouldnt be your biggest concern about transition
Does /mtfg/ believe that when you have sex with someone that you become a part of them so to speak, and when you're apart from them you can find yourself having thoughts that seem parallel to something they would likely think?
Or you can feel free to call me a faggot, ask me if im high and tell me that's not how it works
it's honestly just styling, errybody can do it. it's shocking to me tho because i obviously look very similar, but i look like a much better version of myself now because i lightened my hair and did my makeup differrently lol
i think that can happen? but the only times that's really happened with me are with my best friend and we've never slept together so idk
it would have been almost 2 years now but i had to stop HRT for like 3 months at the end of last year into the beginning of this year and it basically destroyed all of the progress i'd made. so i had to start over. my poor bobs disappeared, facial hair started coming back and everything lol
This tbh. Like you do realize that Jocelyn is leaving her girlfriend for you because she likes boys right? If you like her/love her you won't transition. Not for her sake but yours. She'll slip out of your fingers.
thanks for sticking up for me, dollface
sometimes i can handle it, but right now not really
The feminist trophes in the logo (palate, typeface) are sort of trite, or I suppose more aptly, "basic". That's really more appropriate to sissy fetishists and older mtfs than mtfgen mtfs, who, broadly speaking, preform, or attempt to preform more "third wave" femininity.
cf. Susans, which is aesthetically very much in line with that whole "pretty in pink" aesthetic trainwreck.
I imagine I could fall in love through dominating someone -- it's something I'd really like to experience. Moreover, I would derive a huge amount of pleasure in taking control of a transitioning girl's body and more or less administering her life.
I enjoy pushing people until they push back or yield, sort of as a test (depending on the context too); I suspect the average transsexual would bend very quickly and start exhibiting approval-seeking behaviour, which I fucking love in a girl.
I'm not sure if I'm a sociopath or not. Fraud, deceit and lying come naturally to me, but I try to balance things out. I feel for my family but I experience no emotions when interacting with strangers.
just ignore it fam
also you got a good starting point for mones tbh! make sure you keep a couple photos now that you're just startin to get into it. in a year or two looking back it'll be nice to see your progress and realize how much you've changed positively.
Hmm, interesting. I selected the typeface (for "Sissify") simply on the basis of it being cursive and feminine.
There are a few more fonts (in my collection) of a similar nature I could play around with. But as you said, sissies are the target, but so are young MTFs.
I'm happy for you and Jocelyn (whatever you two have going on right now) and I hope you don't succumb to these anons right now. Jocelyn seems really kind and I don't think she cares at all that you're transitioning. But maybe she does idk. Feel better fam <3
Sissy fetishists rather. MTFs who belong on the site should crave domination. The "Sissify" component ought to be weak and effeminate in appearance to the extent that a font can convey those things.
>get up 7:30am for 9am lecture
>"sorry about no email folks, i forget to send it"
>walk all the way back
;-; just my fucking luck
Also think a flatmate drugged me last night. Idk.
Okay assuming you're serious and didn't actually spend the entire thread trying to get a rise out of people, if your plan is seriously to attract femboys and younger mtfs on the basis of a site that revolves around feminization fetishes, you're pretty much doomed.
I get the impression that in all your analysis of mtfg trans women, 4chan traps, etc, you forgot to account for a very large thing, which is rather impressive for someone who behaves like an obvious sociopath.
Just saw the pic, you have a fairly good start tbh
its just a troll, I know that doesn't help but they're literally just here to make others lives more miserable than theirs and will use whatever ammo they can find.
you're cute, and with time on hrt you're going to be downright pretty.
how is things between you and sexual tension flat mate now that you have a bf?
Well i had sore cough so one of them was like "here i've cough medicine, it says non-drowsy on it"
So was like...sure.
Then i walked into my room sat on my bed and next thing i know its 6am. Like 10 minutes after taking it i had fallen into a 10 hr sleep.
There is no sexual tension. Besides i've had flu all weekend and we have timetables that dont match at all so i've not seen him properly in over a week.
I am serious about the project. The domain is mine and I'd like to form a site partly for commercial purposes and as a mating pool. I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to (trust, anonymity, pre/post-op?) but it's probably crossed my mind. Are you referring to the prospect of extortion?
>There is no sexual tension.
well I mean, not anymore... you have a cute bf from what I understand.
>Besides i've had flu all weekend and we have timetables that dont match at all so i've not seen him properly in over a week.
i try to see the bright side tbh i mean it'd be disgusting but at least an attractive man would be acting like a sociopathic creep. that's pretty much the only positive you can take out of that situation lmao
Like, drugged in the predictable way? Are you alright
Aside from the fact that you're unlikely to have a clientele under 40 on the "sissy" side especially with designs like those, I would be tempted to let you figure it out. I hope this isn't predicated on things being in any way stable, right?
Yes a cute bf whos coming over in like 4 hrs.
Idk. I think it was just the medicine. He did warn me that it made him very sleepy for 3 hrs and he has triple the metabolism i do. But fucking hell that shit was like tranquiliser. My legs failed me when walking up my stairs.
Besides non of the people i live with would do anything even if i was unconscious anyway.
I haven't said anything particularly attention-grabbing in that respect. I don't feel remorse or guilt, but sometimes I do experience fleeting shame in connection misdeeds affecting my family. I also experience a degree of anxiety some I'm not sure what, if anything, is wrong with me. I take what I want but calculate risks along the way.
I inhabit the inverse of that fantasy, I think. It's appealing to be able to surrender agency to a partner in some way, though " taking control of a transitioning girl's body and more or less administering her life" goes beyond that to the degree that it's potentially (though by no means necessarily), abusive, or at least exploitative.
Your suspicions about transsexuals being, on average, sub, are broadly accurate. I'm in a relationship right now, and my biggest issue is that he is, in the contemporary vernacular, a self described beta cuck, which means that any pleasure I get is from pleasing him, and not really at all in my own right.
I don't know if you're a clinical sociopath, though I would conjecture based on that description that you would score higher than average on the test for sociopaths. That's probably a useful quality though, most people who do well in the world of affairs score highly on that test. One just has to maintain some level of fellow feeling for at least some people so as not to go all Patrick Bateman glassy eyed.
Not all mtfs are sissy fetishists, and most sissy fetishists aren't mtfs. Honestly most sissy fetishists are hons, young and old. (mostly boomer cucks, though.) I think there's a lot of visceral disgust around the whole concept, actually, for that reason. (People here hate hons more than pretty much anything.)
If you want young mtfs and traps you need a wholly different semiotic technology, that logo embodies the sort of thing that appeals to maleanons that have gotten into traps. (Maybe not incidentally?) It's "orientalist" in a technical sense.
>there's definitely nothing going on
well the thing is you don't have much time to decide because your body is getting rid of any traces quickly. it is only a short visit.
even if it comes out negative at least you can be sure and won't regret it someday when you find out new information but can't do anything about it anymore.
I don't have a design. If there's pink, it will be restricted to a bar across the top for the logo and navigation. The logo will be further revised.
I'd have to explore ways to recruit younger individuals onto the site. Different types of relationships could be explored by members (sponsorship/roommates being one).
If you're referring to legal issues, I'd ensure none arise and the minimum age for signing up would be 18. Not much is required of site operators to screen for underage individuals. I'd be sure to include a provision releasing all content transmitting on the site to me.
I am not thinking about legal age issues. Quite simply while a lot of trans women are submissive to some extent (sometimes very slight) you seem to read a lot without trying to see between the lines.
Regarding your previous comment. I did hedge against sissy potentially being an outmoded/useless term and I've observed the same things you have with respect to age.
These aren't as catchy, but I also have: feminise.me, transgenderize.me and transsexualize.me.
>Yes a cute bf whos coming over in like 4 hrs.
I remember you be all
>pff guys wont like me anyway, pff
makes me all smiley that you're all enamoured by a new bae and he is nice and cute and stuff
Okay i'll google it. Just to make sure nothing was in it.
I still stand by
>guys wont like me anyway
I just seemed to have found one who does. And we plan to watch futurama later and cuddle whilst i most likely fall asleep resting on him from having got up 7am for like 4 days running.
lol -- apologies for not appearing more pathological.
Taking possession of a girl's body would imply, among other things, customizing her appearance to suit my preferences. I'd consider her input, but I'm confident she'd be eager to follow instructions. I'd inflate her expectations and excite her to the point that she'd tolerate cartoonish (but boner-inducing) alterations like big, puffy lips.
I'd bind her to me legally and emotionally. I do view information as a kind of currency and would be tempted to employ it to maintain the proper social order.
I think u will get ppl that have a fetish for gender bending and very very very few that aim to live naturally as a woman for the rest of their life
domination/submission fetish is also not part of being trans, it's just something that some ppl like no matter their gender
>be trans lesbian
>"hurrr you're just a straight guy with a lesbian fetish"
>be trans gay male
>no one really cares
I'll never understand this double standard. And I say this as a [spoiler]mostly[/spoiler] straight female.
>tfw no sissy bf
I just want to humiliate some fag make him wear women's clothing wouldn't even sleep with him. I just want to beat someone up when I get home. I wouldn't even be attached to him just want some low self esteem femfag to make my psychological bitch.
well I mean, technically he is the second guy to like you and its because you are cute despite your self perception.
tbh, guys will never like me... the average australian girl is short and cute like jormy or shell
everytime I go out people must see me and think I'm some unfortunately tall woman with an adrenal gland problem or they know I'm trans and are being polite.
even here, the best people can give me is
>at least you're not as mannish as you used to be!
eh, sorry for the rant... but you are cute and young and boys like cute and young girls.
It's easy to spot validation-seekers, especially among males for some reason, and they're ripe for abuse/toying. Males remain in place within a hierarchy (almost like a pet dog), such that the dynamic of the relationship would probably remain unchanged.
but the guy that gave you the bottle said it did make him drowsy even if that is very uncommon and it knocked you out for 10 hours straight? i'm not a doctor but i doubt that cough syrup has any interaction with estrogen at least. anti androgen idk possibly.
it does make it a little scetchy tbh
FtMs are generally not considered to be perverts, we are tho.
as a result, we get judged a lot more for these things.
Also, there is a relatively high number of older transitioners that lose access to their wives panties and become the wife instead. Ive never heard of things like that in FtMs.
Neither have I heard of people <35 with that result tho
>lol -- apologies for not appearing more pathological.
it's not that. it looks way to much like your roleplaying. i apologize if you are genuine but the way you talk and describe it i doubt it.
I think you are missing something in the degree of dynamic and while you think you may be able to influence that much, there is so much non-obvious stuff (and none of it particularly subtle) that is completely passing you by that it's hard not to find this funny, if a bit delusional.
I sincerely hope you're a master troll doing some memeing
Im trans either cismale and I love a dumb woman. Like literally I love someone that you can control in every single way psychologically. Control their emotions be completely cold to them make them feel like shit. I like doing it to men also. I especially like doing it to men.I think I have a psychological built in need to control my partner. With my gf now im completely controlling of her subtly. Not like lame ways like what she does but right now im getting comfortable because I want her to fall for me than ill be able to break them down than build her back up make her think im the one.
I doubt it's going to last that long though before she finds out that im just a fucking asshole.
Hanging out with my gf trying to be more mindful of the board quality so im only going to post at night probably. I also don't want to chase anymore since im not single but going to post a bunch less just because my posts don't really contribute to trans issues at all just me complementing and giving opinions of their bodies and whatnot.
I try to move up in every ranking I get in. I view everything as a competition. I don't accept anything less than my best or second place.
I'm extremely tired, that's part of the problem. I'm aware of just how nuanced these relationships can be but it's easy to pierce through the nonsense and assert almost complete control if hope/love are said to be assured. Tethering an MTF to oneself financially and then wrapping her around one's finger if incredibly easy -- it's a process though.
lol, this is great stuff. On the latter point I'm more concerned with advancing my goals and sometimes remaining under the radar, or even posing as someone who's soft/clueless, is incredibly effective.
no, because society predominantely perceives us as men in dresses, which is already considered to be degenerate af, while FtMs are usually seen as extreme tomboys.
the giant influence of the porn industry on how the public eye sees things is just a meme.
it is seen als medically irrelevant tho. This might change at some point but I wouldnt bet on it.
>He's on prescription painkillers because he has a fucked up nerve cluster in his upper right shoulder.
>Idk. All i know is i was out cold for a long time.
idk. i'd say if the thought is actually troubling you go check it out but if you don't really care it's not worth it i guess
it's kinda true, being an ftm u get away with so much more without too much harsh criticism ;~~;
also some still wear dresses and do cosplay for either gender, it's really lopsided tbh
I don't flirt. You're legitimately annoying and gross.
Get ready for many many more. I used to think i was real thcik skinned, but as it turns out, being repressed and disassociatice makes you extremely apathetic.
If you dont think he wanted you to sit on his lap and sing a song you dont knpw a damn thing
Yeah, probably not. The prevailing explanation, which I find plausible, is that masculinity is socially understood to be superior and desirable, while seeking feminizing interventions is irrational and so has to be explained somehow.
I wouldn't be surprised if informed consent T supplementation becomes available for cis, or at least, not traditionally FTM women, as it is for cis men, though that will probably not happen till this particular trans "cultural moment" is over.
spiro breakdowns suck... they're better on E, you don't just break down you also cry
>If there was surely he'd be jealous?
>He doesn't seem to be, just told me not to be too loud because he wont be able to sleep if he has to listen to me getting fucked at 1am.
doesn't that sound like something a guy would say if they were beaten to the post getting to date a girl they were interested in?
Honestly you're just a prissy normie. Ok because you don't flirt with your crush throughout the entire thread. I also never flirted with you because you're not attractive to me faggot. Now go back to being ufufus little lap dog you sound like a little poodle. Seriously all you have ever done is whine like a bitch in the plug banning Hitler. You have such an unlikeable personality its ridiculous
Just whiny as fuck
>see this thread
Maki shut up you don't even belong here and all you've actually done here is lie and be a creep, you're in no position to be attacking others over anything at all
It is in America! "Talk to your doctor about low T". (Which is not clinically well defined.) If you're an older cis dude there are clinics you can go to to get a prescription for T, and I can't imagine that trend won't increase.
Better living through nootropics.
You literally just made a big post about how you love psychologically abusing and manipulating people, how can you expect anybody to trust you when you say "I've never lied"?
She attacked first because you were being a massive creep and honestly I think she's completely in the right here
As much as I tend for typically feminine most of the time, there are days I just want to go all out degenerate bohemian.
It's still likely to be a more controlled substance, prevalence of andropause or not. It's going to take a long time before we see a place like IHP or QHI shipping the stuff.
NOT A DAMNED THING.
>i started it
Why are you still here when you're an outright nuisance to everybody? I mean, sure, maybe at first some of the girls gave you attention, but given your current attitude the well must be getting dry. Not surprising either since everyone knows you don't have enough length to pleasure them.
If he wanted to fuck me iwe'd have fucked by now. He'd have taken hold of me and kissed me then we'd collapse onto his bed and i'd crawl on top of him and start grinding my butt against him until he rips my top off and we make out.
But clearly that hasnt happened.
ALso lecture so will be gone 2 hrs. bibi mtfg.
Yeah, that's true. I wouldn't be surprised if the black market ends up expanding, though.
I am as well, and before I started spiro I was in an extended depressive episode with heavy suicidal ideation, which hasn't recurred since. (Coming up on a year now.) E does make me more inclined to ruminate and go into depressive states, as well as making me sort of lethargic.
>I am as well, and before I started spiro I was in an extended depressive episode with heavy suicidal ideation, which hasn't recurred since. (Coming up on a year now.) E does make me more inclined to ruminate and go into depressive states, as well as making me sort of lethargic.
Thanks, that's actually really reassuring.
I'm not pissed off, tho the ue of "dude" here does feel like a slight at my gender. Maybe i am a bit touchy tonight, especially because maki is trying to attack me about my dumb crush. I feel thats pretty low though. Haven't you ever liked a friend before, and known it was fruitless? Relished in the feeling, trying to preserve it? Contemplated on just how about you're going to ruin a perfectly good friendship?
Maybe I'm touchy about it.
I dont know whyi said anything, i dont want to talk about this. It just makes me feel better to say something i guess. It's indulgent, and i should have kept it all to myself. But the thought of others sharing my sentiment makes me feel a little better about what a disgusting, whorish person I've been.
All I said was how I like to control my partner psychologically. It isn't like they don't like it. Subs like being put in their place.
Are you really going to say that didn't start it?
I can pleasure any girl. Just some girls are size queens its the way it is. Meh im still getting a good amount of girls also despite being smaller and I have the same attitude as I did before. I don't take this imageboard as seriously as some. I just post get my lolz than leave. I just like to entertain people. Also Alison lied about a lot of stuff
>makes fun of my cock size out of nowhere
>DON'T BRING UP ANYTHING ABOUT ME EVER ILL GET HURT
Jesus Christ you're a bitch and im still being a bro about it I didn't and never said the name of the person. Just chill out I haven't done shit to anyone you emotional fuck.
Yeah, I dunno! Spiro was helpful to me. Fin reckt me though, induced pretty severe anxiety, so I dropped it.
It will tank your drive, but then before I started spiro I was literally just hunched before a screen all day and night, so I've actually gotten more done since then.
You're kinda just a toxic person in general and i think you legitimately make generals worse. Also most girls are size queens and you would probably know that if you could even get a date lol.
I'm also sticking with my guns on this one becaue "tiny dick autist" id my favorite salty shade I've ever thrown, and even tho it doesn't tackle any of the real problems i have with you, it makes me giggle. So uh, thanks for that i guess. Honestly, more thanks are deserved to alison for it than you, but we I'm generous.
Ooh, now i know the dudes are purposeful. You're mean.
Hi latenight mtfg I see this threads going well
I just practiced my voice for the first time. Could I post it to see if I'm on the right track or not ??
I don't want to practice doing something wrong and then have to unlearn it ;~;
>see this thread
I'm just going to purge it w/ yaoi tbqh
>has a gf
>can't get a date
You're an idiot did you even read my post before insulting? Look know your mad about your little crush issues but don't take it out ol makichan. Makichans still nice to everyone regardless of how much this character takes. Not nice to you right now but im nice to everyone for the most part. Your crush is probably more interested in me anyway tbh all girls are despite being small ;)
What's it like knowing a small dick chaser gets so much booty cis and trans while you cry about your one crush and you're a literal virgin?
I mean that must hurt you that someone so disgusting like me and small is loved by everyone you love?
I mean irl I'm a yuri fiend tbh but yaoi is rlly cute on the interwebs !!
PLS NO BULLY
So I mostly just did this so I'd have something to compare it to in a few months time but idk
I feel like it got better near the end and I'm trying to use my head/nose instead of my chest to speak ?? I think that's what I'm supposed to do.
aaaa it's really weak though as you can hear but it's day 1 so hopefully it'll get stronger !!
A-also I'm terrible at speaking send help
Oddish is a pokemon.
And honestly i prefer just being referred to as jade anyways. Or "dude", this new nickname that seems to be catching on for me rn.
This doesnt sound bad fr day1. You're right that you want to use headvoice and not chest voice, but what you need to focus on is incorporating your diaphragm into your head voice to give it since more strength, varying more in range (men are much more monotonal than women), and not using your falsetto. Try singing. Practice ranges once a day, sing stuff with girl singers or high pitched singers (i can give u plenty od recommendations) and try to very slowly and safely push the bounds of your range. Record your progress!
It's pretty okay for a day one, fairly typical.
>I think that's what I'm supposed to do.
Basically, it has to come from the back of the head rather than the nose though. It takes some practice to place it there.
i think you're gonna be pretty hot as a girl, as you're a hot androgynous male right now. once your body/face has been feminized, you'll probably be drop dead gorgeous, imo
>This is kinda why I'm unsure of transitioning, though. I look good and I don't want to ruin my life, but I'm not sure if not transitioning would ruin my life even more
transition doesn't ruin your life...it gives you some temporary obstacles that can be conquered, and after that you just live as a woman, so your problems are primarily woman problems. do you know what i mean?
the biggest issues someone like you will have is probably whether or not your family accepts you.
and you could always life as a male on hormones, some people do that as well.