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old thread >>5072196
No im not transitioning
Im saving esec links thanks fam
Im nice to you still ._.
You just seem like you had w bunch of stuff going on lately
This shit sounds way too faggoty and too much work. no wonder you girls are always taking too long in the bathroom. Im going to put a wig on and wear a slutty skirtv and boots and lipstick
I guess I have to shave also
Fuck i ain't doing all that gay shit
>>5073368way too much work tbh just to be a girl for one night
>try to go to bed
>think about dick so much can't sleep
I also started fiddling with my phones camera and changed a few settings now I don't look shit in it, it's amazing.
>tfw never gonna run a successful dickgirl and boy farm
Why even live
>tfw going out for dinner rn with my entire family for my mothers birthday
>Tfw first time I've been all together with my siblings in ages
please let there be alcohol
I came here because I fell in love with a tg girl when talking to her. I came to learn more then I kept falling in love with everyone here and I ended up liking everyone here tbh.
I enjoy talking to all types of people.
I've pretty much learned all I need to learn which isn't much.
As a straight male that flirts with everyone you're all exactly the same as cis females lol.
I've been dickish lately and I should chill out.
I just want to dress prettu one night ._.
Im single pic related
the average shoulder length for women is 15-17 inches you fuck.
also sexual dimorphism is much more complicated than stating measurements.
god damn it, oddish, for someone who's so pretentious you are an idiot.
i'm disappointed in you.
also kafka never wrote The Double.
It was Dostoevsky. I wasn't going to say anything at the time, but you're wrong Richard Ayoede's The Double might seem Kafkaesque, but it was inspired by a Dostoevsky novel.
>asked all my cis girlfriends their shoulder width today
>13 inches avg
I'm not saying no one can pass with these measurements. I'm saying for me it was too little, too late
Shit. I was reading bth authors at the time. Had also just watched the trial and was jus getting into kafka. I swear i knew this.
i'm just kidding tbh. kind of surprised you didn't know it was me. but yeah 16 in shoulders is nothing fam. stop worrying about it.
i have 17 inch shoulders and i pass better than you.
this is alison signing off. night fam.
Woke up in the middle of the night and can't fall back asleep :S
>laying in bed
>realize that I'm going to be 27 in 2 months
>think about how I decided to become a woman just as the social value of women starts to depreciate
>think about how I already have no value as a woman because I don't have a uterus
>think about how I'll be a hon forever cause I figured this shit out too late
>think about how hundreds of years after I die when future archeologists unearth my skeleton they'll think I was a normal man
don't listen to oddish. she doesn't go outside like ever. she has no idea what real women look like and all her friends are probably anorexic 5'4'' latina bitches and not women that are as tall as she is. she's dumb and thinks the double was written by kafka. listen to me. i'm smart and amazing.
also this graph i posted >>5073453
shows that it's easier to pass facially as an mtf than an ftm because there are less feminine male faces than masculine female faces. so people will read you as a woman moreso than a man if you have a feminine face with hrt or ffs.
people are more likely going to register even slightly feminine male faces as female because a male face with female qualities is so much more rare than the opposite. SO STOP DEPRESSION POSTING AND LOVE YOURSELF YOU DELUSIONAL FUCKS!
I mostly just shit-post tfw, I'm well aware of the realities about women and that I can pass in even the worst of circumstances.
Doesn't mean I won't want to be more petite regardless.
How the hell do any pre-transition girls get the guts to post your face here? Not the judgement thing aspect, but the slim, but entirely possible, chance you get turned into a reaction image, then an image macro, then posted on Facebook to your family/co-workers before you're ready?
Or am I just overly paranoid?
>Us dommy men can't look like twinks we gotta be men for these bottoms
Has anyone told you how cute you are when you're acting all butch and manly?
Are you gonna shave at least for when you dress up like maki?
as long as it's just memes and these feelings aren't corrupting you like some trips i know on here. people are legitimately considering suicide over their shoulders when they have no idea how sexual dimorphism works. fucking dumbasses. i'm best girl, alison, and i'm waging war against depression posters and sad feels posters. WE ARE ALL GOING TO MAKE IT!!!
I don't care if I have to carry every last girl here to the finish line. We're going to make it and that's final!
MOPE IN HELL DEPRESSION SCUM!!! YOUR DELUSIONS ARE YOUR WEAKNESS AND WEAKNESS IS FOR MEN!!! WOMAN UP AND GROW SOME OVARIES YOU PANSY!!!
I've never posted my face to 4chan, or anything really of me in real life. Posted my body here once but didn't really get any replies.
I used to be very paranoid of even having my picture on any social media or dating websites. But I just went for it and don't really care anymore. Now that I'm planning on transitioning it bothers me a little having a picture of me as a guy on my dating profiles and such but I leave it up just in case anyways.
But I agree, I don't understand people that have put their entire life for public viewing in these threads with progression pictures and pictures of them pre-transition and stuff. There's different degrees of it and some are worse than others and some just posting for critique. But certain people leave me feeling pretty uncomfortable with the kinds of stuff they post of themselves and about themselves.
I get 4chan being a social outlet. I've been a shutin for many years now and it's been my only social interaction. But despite sharing my inner most personal thoughts and experiences I keep things anonymous for the most part.
When you kill yourself and your consciousness goes into post-life panic mode and you imagine a pink unicorn asking you why you killed yourself, and you reply with some bullshit meme answer like "muh shoulders", i hope it dawns on you how fucking pathetic it was to take your life over shoulders. I hope you realize how truly valuable life is. I hope you realize how many experiences you took away from yourself. I hope it hurts so much that somehow you get pushed back into life and get another chance in your "large shouldered" body. I hope you fucking apologize to me for how pathetic you were acting. God damn it kid. Grow up...
I wouldn't kill myself over shoulders. My desire for suicide has so much less to do with being trans than it does with how much of a failure i am, how i will never be successful, how succeeding in life is meaningless and it hurts me to put any effort into something that doesn't matter.
I'm in the way of everyone. They don't even have to know i died. If i jump in the alkaline I'll disappear. They'll look for me for a few years, before giving up, and then they'll wishfully think that I found some "other path" or some shit.
Yea. Yea, being a mother would matter. Idk why. I wish.
Erin I guess. Idk... Like Ricky is best trip and I know so much about her. ;~;
Kit is cool but I know quite a bit about her rn too.
Idk fam. ;~; Bexe maybe? Or Pookie? madison is cool too maybe her but I know quite a bit about her like a basic level.
I think learning more than that about a person is kind of intimate and if I'm friend with someone online I'd rather keep it basic and simple. I'd rather not complicate things with too much data about other people's lives clogging my flesh hardware. i'm here to help with feels though and will listen when they need me. ;~; because that's what a good online friend does.
YOU NEED TO GET ON MEDS SO YOUR BRAIN CAN FUCKING REALIZE HOW PATHETIC YOU SOUND RIGHT NOW!!!
Fuck oddish. What the fuck. Life is amazing and infinite and full of possibilities. Get to work and make it amazing. You have an infinite universe inside your skull. Shit is cash. Make it work. Love yourself and stop shitposting on here and get on some meds or try a good therapist.
This post is amazing
Caddy seems cool & nice, I'd love to get to know nearly everyone here better though!! So if any of y'all wanna talk to me and stuff just DO IT I love talking to people and I'm never gonna say no to a conversation unless I have something EXTREMELY important happening or if I'm in class
This post is amazing too you're on fire today
OK let's get to know each other better then yo, let's go, let's do this thing
i'm glad these posts are at least being recognized haha. thanks erin. you're amazing too. but i really should be sleeping. ;~;
good night fam.
listen oddish. you're talking to a person who has been depressed for years. who had two real suicide attempts they had to be hospitalized for and who had to take anti depressants while living in their car for a month in the winter because mom's new husband wouldn't take a tranny in to his house.
i know hardship. i know what it feels like to want to die. i know what being alone is. i've tasted all of that and more. if someone like that, who has been through all of that, is telling you that you need to get your shit together and love life... just think about that. just get help...
Watching gay guys being affectionate with eachother fucks me up. Like it makes me smile, its cute, but then it makes me cringe and i scrunch my stomach. Wtf is wrong with me. Yuri just makes me smile and stuff, why is yaoi also killing me?
I'm weaker than you. That's it. I cant sift through years of pointless life just because.
>No hormones, effectively disabled but cute face mtf
>neurological issues including seizures, twitches, mild memory loss, and spasms.
>mental issues including aspergers and severe anxiety and PTSD
>Constant body pain in most joints in my body
>No chaser will even want this
A stupid fight with an old hon who had been using me as an example to shit on another young girl who said she was. It kind of escalated and I said that and never really felt like dispelling it.
compiled feelings from yesterday
>tfw I learnt today I'm probably not suited to the kinds of jobs my course leads to
>tfw not skilled at anything
>tfw I could probably handle being mediocre if only I looked good
>tfw cis friends post amazing pics of themselves and I can barely bring myself to compliment them because it means admitting I'm not happy with any aspect of my appearance
>one friend has gone from skinnyfat to ab definition in resting standing position in 4 weeks
>I've never had any muscle definition anywhere on my body in my whole life
>look in the mirror
>try to be positive
>"this is also a female body, this is also okay"
>it's a total lie
>if I saw somebody else with this body I'd be telling a white lie if I said they looked good, let alone feminine
also the other thought going through my head was
>I'm going to look like this, but with tits, when I come out to my parents
jesus christ how horrifying, forget my parents, I'D kill me
I hate who I am
iktf apart from seizures
I don't get it. Are you just shit-posting to make other people feel bad? You look like a cis girl and yet say you look like a man.
It's not very considerate to not realise how good you look and continue to fish for attention.
She does this all the time, says she's a man, etc. She also posts terf shit from reddit here occasionally. Hence why the anon mentioned dropping her trip, it's the only way she'd ever get responses.
rawr has been doing this for a while. She drops out of it every now and then for about one or two posts.
She also reposts her bitchy snarking about how gay people have to be to talk to her on okc, while her profile is stealth.
>Do you live in the Imperial Provence of Skyrim or something?
Something like that.
Well, maybe not quite, but, it gets cold, and then I need man to keep me close to him so I can stay warm through his body heat.
What are your girls opinion on transition. Do you consider someone a female if they just tell you they are, even if they still 100% pre-trans and havn't really done anything?
Or do you take people for their word no matter what?
honest question tbh
I'm a man right now because I'm pre-everything. I'm not a girl, I want to be a girl.
But that's just my personal identity. If someone tells me they want to be called she or addressed as a woman I'll do it. The only reason not to would be out of spite, and if I have no reason to want to spite the individual then I won't.
I generally assume humans to be of whichever gender they present as, unless they're obviously one or the other
That said, if a boy told me "I'm a girl" I'd say "that's nice" and reevaluate them mentally as female
>and if I have no reason to want to spite the individual then I won't.
This is the most amusing thing I've read in days
I have to come up with reasons not to be randomly spiteful
My favorite is remembering that non-person humans tend to think they're people if I acknowledge them
I made a call yesterday to start getting medical treatment and counseling at a new place, since I moved so far from my old place. I have to go talk to their financial assistance person tomorrow, which may or may not mean having a day to myself in the city. I hope it works out that way, because I'd be hyped for that.
that's more or less how I introduce myself at tournaments anyway, I just need to say it 50 more times
that sounds cool, moving all your medical stuff and all that- its sooo much hassle but should be pretty cool when its done
also dang i need to start going to tournaments cause i havent played in more than 2 weeks and im going insane
i need to find an actual physical copy of melee somewhere so i can start playng again
>tfw one of those days where just want to kill myself every waking session
>have to go to a 3 hr neurocognitive and biology lecture and 2 hr lab session
Girlmode uni fucking sucks at times. When its going well its amazing but i can no longer spend the entire day in bed crying when im having a shit day. Have to interact with random fuckwits im forced to work with.
Hows mtfg doing?
I think boys and girls are pretty, but I only like girls for relationships. Like, I'd sleep with a guy, but if he thinks I'm gonna stick around for breakfast he has another thing coming.
I mean, yea I guess, I just don't think that diminishes it's value as a game because I don't have an inferiority complex.
I lived in the city the past couple years, and now I live in the middle of fucking nowhere and I have no mode of transportation available to me. I love every chance I get to go into the city.
>girlfriend is on board with bringing me to the train station in the morning so I can just chill in the city until my appointment tomorrow
>local weekly is the day after that
Shaping up to be a fun couple of days. I'm gonna visit my favorite lil ramen shop tomorrow
Yeah someone emailed this to me last week but I think everyone at uni got it
I'm not confident enough to go though, especially being stuck in boymode
Life has been pretty good for the past year I guess
Stuff's not perfect but I enjoy being fulltime instead of always crying and wanting to die because I looked like a boy
My gf always insists I am anime, especially ever since we played tennis together and this happened to me.
But how am I anime at this moment?
I'm in the minority on this, but I think it's worth going to any support group at least once.
good luck in your local!! rep peach and win stuff yknow
hey anon, you should go!! if it's bad, you can just leave and it says right there that its ok to be boymode
best case scenario: its really good, you make friends and find help & support
worst case scenario: its awful and you walk out and never go again!
moko has the same idea!! >>5073789 so there
The other good players here have been getting better at a much faster rate than me, which is frustrating because I've been playing Melee longer than them.
I just tell myself I lose to them these days because they play Shiek and Marth which are bad matchups for Peach.
Literally any trans space you go to these days will have NBs at it, it's annoying but it's reality.
>see manager at work, different department, kinda hit it off with nice casual conversation, she's hot, I like
>ask bro hey homie what's her name, I didn't catch jt
>Anon bro but she's a tranny
>yeah man she took a few weeks off last year and came to the office Christmas party with tits, it floored everyone
>I'm okay with that.jpg
My life. My actual life.
Why are transbians some of the worst people?
>mtf that used to be in my group of friends claims she's a lesbian daily
>hits on me and other guys because she has a twink fetish
>constantly shitting on transmen
>constantly getting mad about crossdressers claiming they ruin her life
>legit talks about "taking down capitalism" even though she's in her mid 20s
I played them all.
The drop rates are awful in iv.
I've been trying to get rydia's mindflayer summon for the past 3 hours and the mindflayer enemies refuse to drop them!
i hope who ever designed the ff iv drop rate for the psp version has killed themselves
shell! IDK why it was so cold but kinda super glad it was cause i had a dinner w/ my family and i was not prepared to go there without a jacket or something.
how is stuff with you?? halfway through the week now !
>tfw bf pets hair telling you how beautiful you are for hours
>tfw fall asleep in bfs arms
>tfw wake up to sex in progress
>tfw bf has to go do errands ;_;
>that feelingsten whenskies make a 5* post on mah personal bloggington :^)
Welp it's cheese and crackers before bed for me tonight then.
Seriously I used to be able to survive on 5 hrs. I miss those days
B-but not all transbians!
That sounds awesome even if family get-togethers are exhausting. I'm so-so, been having bad dysphoria recently and still have it. Anon last night wasn't even that big of a deal comparatively, it's hard to take anyone who says dollface is unpassable seriously.
Dental appointment this morning, exciting >.>
Not really. I'm on the bathroom right now and a fat chick came in and sharted up the toilet next to me. The smell is killing me.
That's because you don't see the straight ones. They're all NEET posting on 4chan hoping the next disease scare will end the world. Constantly shitting on anyone that isn't cis male. Constantly getting mad about trasbians, FtM, genderqueers, non binary, cis scum, cross dressers, twinks, Bruce Jenner claiming they ruin her life. Announces daily that every FtM is a joke and transbians are ugly straight men.
What's the best boy-acquisition technique?
oh i need to get back into exercise so badly but its soo hard. or im just really lazy. i think just starting is the hard part tho! but great job!
oh and yeah we went to a thai place it was pretty nice! although my parents left early and then my brothers and sister all left and I had to catch an uber home since no one would give me a lift = =;;
well i hope your classes and stuff are all going well. i actually feel quite bad for you rn i was feeling pretty bad like a few days ago and it really isn't fun. i really hope it turns around for you soon.
I have never dated a guy before and its really intimidating even tho i want the d but I'm seeing a trans masculine person right now kind of and it feels pretty safe. Also I feel ok about it because I'm not super comfortable with my presentation or body right now and I think they understand
>How do I reduce the pain as much as possible?
You'll get used to the pain with time. When I first plucked my eyebrows I thought it really hurt. Then I started plucking my upper lip and chin and now doing eyebrows is a walk in the park.
If you can't afford laser like me then plucking is your best option. Just stomach the pain for a while, you'll get used to it.
The problem is they're all tumblr tier special snowflakes that want male pronouns so they can be like their gay porn mangas. If I wanted to date a woman that acts like a man I would just date a transbian. At least they wouldn't be no dick midgets.
Ok, sounds like a plan.
Where could they be? Maybe they all hang out together somewhere or something, hmmm.
I tried ordering one from bf.com.au but they just sent me a bunch of plastic, damn swindlers!
>not skipping class almost every day and still getting good grades
Do you even /trainwreck/ m8?
hey everyone jenny boylan is doing an AMA on reddit in two hours if you wanna ask her a question. her book was one of the first I read when I was questioning my gender so I just thought I'd let u kno
sounds spooky, i might need a warmup game or two first
SWEET FUCKING JESUS THE PAIN
GOD I HATE SHAVING
I HAVE THE SKIN OF A BUTTERFLY AND THE COORDINATION OF A BULL IN A CHINA SHOP
>woke up alone in bed for the 9646 day in my life
>wish I was waking up with a man spooning me from behind
>his strong hands wrapped around me
>his breath on my back
>a warm embrace
>I will never know what it is to be loved by a man
>mfw right now
>mfw gotta go swimming and come back and get ready for a bdsm event in under two and a half hours
mmm im not sure if that's my thing or not. mb not.
anyway, gn gn shell! please be safe
aha its fine ! i'll not watch. i just thought i remember you asking people to watch your stream llike a while ago? or mb it was someone else. it's fine tho bexe. you go be the best girl you can be.
yeah that was me :^) i just don't want to embarrass myself with really shitty play, it's been a while and streaming my first match would give me mad anxiety too
plus esports are starting soon and i have a medical need for rares
take a long warm shower and put conditioner on your beard area for 5 mins before you rinse, that always helps me
I'm getting depress...
Maybe the height of my life will be to just dress pretty for myself, alone, at home.
I suppose, maybe, that could be fun too...
It was what it was. Had my gums stabbed for a little bit, paid for the luxury. I don't think anybody likes going to the dentist but at least it makes for clean teef
Like, the guys who want trans woman, are like all creeps.
Chances to find a man who isn't a creep, when you're not a flawlessly passing trans woman, is seemingly next to zero.
I'm rather alone than dating a creep... So, therefore, the height of my life may be to just be alone, but still having nice clothes and shoes.
how're ya doing?
like u can look up my pics in the archive if u rlly care that much
I talk however I want, and was pretty drunk last night
I've been a tripfag so, like, I don't even know, troll better I guess
all sorts of people can find love, anon
wut, posting ur qt pics?
>let's not pretend that Jenner isn't awful...
>tfw when ur electrolysis person asks about them and seems amused and awkward when u say u wish trans people had a better "representative"
What makes them creeps tho? I'd at least give a chaser a chance before writing him off. Its kinda flattering to have someone interested, even if its a bit superficial. Now if they turned out to be terrible after giving them a chance then yeah drop em like aa hot potato
Have you watched that "trans lovers" episode?
First of all...
Why would a guy date a trans woman?
If he's straight, or at least "straight", then he'd just as well go with cis women... And if he just wants a trans woman for some reason, then he could just pick a completely passable one, that is young etc.
So, the other ones... Well, that tv series episode can probably tell that story.
They're creeps, they want a trans girl because they have a fetish for it, and they're otherwise losers.
I'm pretty far from flawlessly passing and have found guys willing to date me that aren't creeps.
Same actually, I think it might be down to dental hygiene. I brush thoroughly and religiously.
No, waking up was a mistake because I'm back feeling dysphoric and shitty. ;~;
Also, it's about how you approach the Jenner issue. I generally thoroughly explain why I think she's a terrible spokesperson for trans issues.
>I'm pretty far from flawlessly passing and have found guys willing to date me that aren't creeps.
Are you sure you're being objective about it, and not just putting him in a better light, skewing his intentions, and the way he looks and behaves?
I mean he could like the transgirls because he likes her ya know? Not everything has to be linked to a fetish or some secret ulterior motive.
According to you its impossible for a guy to honestly like non 100% passing transgirls without being a creep so enjoy being bitter and alone I guess? That's a really shitty view of other ppl imo
>tfw u have cis sisters who will always be prettier and like actually normal and stuff and its hard o-ok
aw, dat feel, I've been doing pretty shitty this morning too with pain and stress and stuff,
anything in particular getting to you?
well right off the bat she opposes gay marriage and I'd like to marry my partner some day
There's no reason for him to actually date her and get to know her.
There's first physical attraction, if that goes well, then comes the emotional and deeper attraction.
So, if a girl is not 100% passable, there wouldn't really be any physical attraction to begin with... Other than, he knows there's a dick under the clothes. That goes into fetish territory... Maybe he's an ok guy even then, but I think chances are he isn't.
Physical attraction is super easy. Emotional is easy if you're cool or interesting.
Getting over the penis is only really an obstacle if he wants kids. Getting a non-creep is only hard if you're an uninteresting or otherwise terrible person.
You're really blowing this whole problem out of proportion. It's not like you're some sort of antisocial shutin neet with no hobbies or aspirations right?
but it helps me when i focus on who i am as a person.
I am much smarter and have made better life choices than all three of my sisters.
i am easier to get along with and all around happier than all three of them too.
shit is so cash.
so turn that frown upside down fam. i'm sure you're just as great as your sisters.
If he just wanted to pump me and dump me he would have left me before we had been together for close to 4 years, and he likely would not have supported me through some of my worst moments/times, or SRS for that matter. We started dating after we were friends too, so it's hardly like he just saw me as a sex object.
Jenner can be summed up as:
- Into women but opposes gay marriage, identifies as "straight" (ie. straight male)
- Privileged and acts surprised when she hears that trans people face discrimination.
She's a terrible spokesperson.
My appearance is getting to me, face and shoulders mostly. It's basically been bothering me ever since I became single again, having a relationship was apparently a band-aid for my dysphoria.
What's stressing you out?
I know that feel. I look up to my older sister but I'm basically inferior in every way.
>Physical attraction is super easy.
No, it's not. Maybe if you pass 100%, but if you don't pass 100%, then it's not "super easy".
A straight guy wouldn't be attracted to a trans woman who doesn't pass 100%, as she wouldn't look completely female, and have some rather off putting features (otherwise she'd pass 100%).
So, getting to the point of emotional attraction wouldn't ever happen, because he wouldn't even consider dating her because of how she looks.
You see the problem?
For somebody to be attracted to a trans woman who doesn't pass 100%, he'd have to be attracted to her because of a fetish, namely, the penis.
And because his attraction is based on a fetish, I think it's quite likely he's a creepy and not so fun person.
>Getting over the penis is only really an obstacle if he wants kids.
Sure, but that's only for trans women who pass 100%.
> It's not like you're some sort of antisocial shutin neet with no hobbies or aspirations right?
I may not have hobbies and aspirations, and I may be a shutin neet, but I'm not anti-social.
>You see the problem?
Yes. You think there is such a thing as "100% passing" that we have to strive for, and any features that is not on the far end of feminine is going to ruin your life.
If someone is attracted to a girl with a nose that isn't a perfect tiny button nose is he a fetishist? Because it doesn't take any leaps to get there from what you're saying, and it's a crazy thing to say.
If somebody is visible born male, you can assume there is a penis, and then you pursue dating that person because it has a penis...
That's a fetish, and not remotely the same to be attracted to somebody because she has a cute button nose.
"100% passing" does exist.
it's going terribly so far! I'm listening to the mars volta, I just watched six hours of sense8! I have nothing to do in my dead end life and I'm basically just waiting to die! I didn't sleep last night because I have an appointment tomorrow and I need to get my sleeping schedule back in place!
You gotta be you. Only and best one iii the world ^_^bb on the bright side your sister can try to be like you but she can never be you fam.
I think Jamie Clayton got some attention for a while... I guess they realized she was sane, and passing, so they diverted that attention elsewhere. First to Cox something, then now to Caitlyn Jenner.
you're gonna make it jade
don't believe in yourself... believe in me, who believes in you
oh well like all of us seem to have a pretty hard time accepting positive stuff about ourselves even if it's true, my sister and mom are pretty specific about what they're jelly off and I buy it cus some stuff like my hair and nails were better than a lot of cis girls even before transition
iktf, my face is one of the main things that bother me about myself and I think it's rlly ugly and manly and needs ffs tho somehow it doesn't stop me from passing, you're a lot prettier than me tho and don't seem to have nearly as much in the way of problem features, I'm pretty self-conscious about my shoulders too even tho my partner tries to remind me that they're like the same width as hers
relationships can do that and I even recognize that my partner and I are kinda co-dependent with some stuff like that
a bunch of stuff is stressing me out like worrying about catching the other kitten and finding a new apartment and my doctor stuff but I'm also just more stressed in the morning from my health stuff
>One of you! go be famous or something!
I don't believe fame is healthy, like psychologically
well, I'm thinking of doing a lot of streaming after I transition (I play competitive TF2 and although there's a lot of grills in the scene, there's no female streamers) and because >internet and >trolls I figure eventually someone will dig deep enough to find out, so if anything I can work from there
I know streamer isn't as famous as Olympic athlete but it's a start I guess
>For somebody to be attracted to a trans woman who doesn't pass 100%, he'd have to be attracted to her because of a fetish, namely, the penis.
Not really. They could be bisexual, or into feminine guys, or any number of other things while still completely respecting the fact you aren't comfortable with your genitals, or them fetishizing your genitals. Your generalizations have no basis besides what you see in fucking 4chan threads.
The reality is that a lot of guys go for trans women because they believe that they are easier to obtain and keep due to their anxiety and insecurities. They rely on trans girls to be in a fragile mental state so they can feel secure in believing they won't leave them.
Unfortunately for these men who likely have little experience with women what so ever, they don't know that the more insecure and fucked up a girl is the more likely she is to cheat on you or end up leaving you. They don't have the experience to know that confident girls are the most loyal.
So everyone loses and everyone's fucked.
>non 100% passing trans woman
don't make me post the bell curve graph
>tfw have one sister and 3 brothers
>tfw sister and i used to be really tight but now i think she secretly hates me
also i'm the only person in who isn't a twin i like to complain about that alot too
Nah, maybe it's just because of my own situation.
The feature that makes me unpassable is a, well, very unattractive and masculine feature.
Maybe it's different for those who can get cocked for other features...
Though, I guess, if anyone has a feature that makes them unpassable, it'd always be unattractive.
Lol or he can be non binary/pansexual bit those don't exist and/or creepy so they don't count. Any excuse is better than none as to why ur bitter and alone. you're the exact kind if girl guys make threads about saying how they make no fucking sense
>show interest in someone
>get called creep and fetishist
>fuck off and go find someone less hostile and retarded
>"bawwww why can't I find a MANN I'm so ugly!! ;-;
She got nowhere near that much, is only a household name in the american trans community, and as a general rule a lot of people probably don't know she is.
She had also transitioned forever by the time her career picked up like that.
It's not necessarily a bad thing tbh, there's a bunch of other not-quite-spokesperson trans people whose being trans isn't that well known but who did a lot for the trans community.
And then there's Jenner who did less than nothing and basically makes 90s tier shit "documentaries".
>a lot of guys go for trans women because they believe they are easier to obtain and keep due to their anxiety and insecurities
The truth hurts. I don't know if that's their intention to start, but it certainly ends up playing out that way. It's not a good feeling to realize that you're settling for something less than ideal because you feel you couldn't do better, it makes you feel really weak willed and dependant.
Work the trans streamer angle, that alone would probably get you views. The problem is that people will start gauging your content not by how good of a streamer you are, but by the fact that you're trans. It's complicated ;~;
My face doesn't generally stop me from passing either. Given the kind of feedback I get from people irl and on here, it's safe to say that the only person I don't pass to is myself. I imagine you're prettier than you think too, we're all our own worst critics.
Do you have health problems? What kind of health problems?
>go to gaming society
>apparently it's 'cancelled' and only about 7 people turned up
>hang round and play pokemon for a little bit
>turns out one guy has a copy of melee
well that sucks but it looks like MELEE'S ON NEXT WEEK AAAAAAAAAYYY
its tru tho ur a bully and my friend
>there's a new sheriff in town, erin
...is it me?? i hope its not me id be a terrible sheriff
is he cute?
also i think you would make a really nice sheriff erin :3
That's what I'd prefer too, but people tend to gauge you by what's the smallest minority you're a part of. Women in competitive gaming might be a minority, but transwomen are the even bigger minority.
This is why I want to be stealth.
>will never be the Courier
>will never do gay shit with Cass
>will never traverse Nevada with her and gun down Legion scum
real life fucking sucks
no I know, but I mean going stealth and stuff. Hopefully I can pass well enough that I would haven't to worry about being trans
We can all have a goal to reach though, r-right? ;-;
exactly. And I know I could at least bring more attention to some of the great competitive females and help to get more into the scene (the winning team for Highlander this year I believe had 2 grills)
>always feel like shit
>feel so content and happy and loving
>feel like shit again
I wish i could be that content happy person everyday ;_; i think being trans has ruined me, even tho im out the other side now
That's hard at this age especially, I can see why that would be stressful. I knew a guy who had similar, it really sucked for him because he liked to party but could wind up hospitalized at the drop of a hat.
Are you shooting people now? o.o
That would be amazing if you could, the disconnect in how many women there are in competitive gaming is why the community for so many competitive games treat women like dirt.
She ends up fucking some random NCR dude by the end of the story anyway.
See so now, when I go on about having really sensitive skin that comes off like eraser shavings if I rub it, do you believe me?
This is me now with skincare stuff washed off, and concealer and shitty webcam grain/exposure added.
>mfw beard shadow is barely visible
>mfw it reveals disgusting George-Lucas neck instead
yeah I got sick at the start of highschool tho I also meant my health stuff literally just makes me more stressed out than normal and get stressed more easily and stay stressed longer, I'm not usually rlly up for partying
>Your autonomic nervous system is the part of your nervous system that controls involuntary actions, such as the beating of your heart and the widening or narrowing of your blood vessels. When something goes wrong in this system, it can cause serious problems, including
> Blood pressure problems
> Heart problems
> Trouble with breathing and swallowing
> Erectile dysfunction in men
How do I deal with my resting face being this expression?
You'd post here every day to make us feel worth and talk about how the kicking baby Wakes you up
omg no wayyy >< i'm not american enough to fire a gun
also i hate being like mean or rude and shooting people is both of those things
Some people are feminine and some are masculine. The feminine ones would be happier but not too different from how they are now. The masculine ones would stop acting like dude bro shitheads with abysmal hobbies and entitlement to having the loudest opinion.
>I want to be stealth.
I'm finally understanding the concept
>presented in a dress
>didn't get any weird looks nor made anyone uncomfortable
>feeling more confidant as clock ticks away
>mfw lgbt person clocks me as I leave the store
so among the lay public I was passing as far as I can tell, but gay guy obviously knew.
he was extraordinarily nice and seemed to come out of no where as I was leaving.
I imagine this is how famous people feel when they get ambushed by fans
I hope he isn't sjw and I'd die if I was on his fb or blog
It's ok Kit, I'm not judging you, you're legitimately the nicest rampage shooter I've ever met ^~~^
Sounds like a fair evaluation. That said, I doubt I'd have a lot of the same hobbies I have now if I'd not been trans. How many other people absolutely buried themselves in their technology in their teens to numb themselves? I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Yeah, it's not a good feeling to get clocked. Even if I do clock a passing trans woman I feel like bringing it up is exceptionally rude, given I know how shitty it feels. What do you say to them anyways? I never got it :S
The concept of stealth is not only passing. Stealth implies that there is nothing significant out there to undermine your identity. When your employer does a background check it all turns up female. When you go to the doctor they believe you are cis female. When you have sex your partner believes you are cis female unless you confide in them about your past.
Who American here? Also phalic food is no substitute for actual phalluses