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o///o; y-yes that is what you're supposed to do
b-be honest pooks, have you done this before? >///<
Damia is my baby, i love interacting with the entire game even if i'm rarely allowed to have my commander out for long
Horde is fun because it does silly things but i dislike having so few instant options
Tomorrow is hilarious because it's like group hug into You Are Already Dead
too big but he's still a human
whatever it is, it's not a person
i got u fam
i use a tote bag (the one hung up on the wall in this pic)
i like big bags tho i carry a ton of shit around with me always
>look up ottermode boys
oh dog what done
for reference, I'm just accepting I'm into guys and never really looked at pics of guys too often (muh repression) but it makes since cause there's this swimmer I'm friends with and I've been drawn to him but idk why...and omg now I need to see him with his shirt off and his junk out cause fuuuuuuuck
I'M BACK AND OMG UGGGHHHH I WANT HIM. WHY AM I SO GAY (Well I'm trans so straight I guess idk still confusing)
Damia's really cool. I have a friend who uses her but never actually plays her, just for the colors.
But it's weird, Kamahl and Vorel were built because I didn't like some aspect of Magic (I hate Mono Green and counterspells) so I built decks using those to find why I didn't like them and to see if I can have fun with it. Now I have Kamahl which is Green Devotion and getting stuff out for free and Vorel which is counters and counters
>bringing out the big guns
L-lewd, pooks w-what are you doing
>tfw 2 years ago I started therapy to get on mones
no idea how or why but my life improved quite nice since then
>tfw gf and I most likely move together and get cats next summer
>mfw I got the callback for a second interview.
Imma get this job fam. Also Guitar check skype or I'm coming to your place tomorrow to check on you.
>cry and eat isn't one option
>implying the flirting is ironic
>can't start therapy
>been with several
No. I have a little pocketbook/wallet inside for cards. Keys just float around in there somewhere, and no it doesn't bother me that much. It can get annoying if it gets heavy from a book or something.
T-tthat's not bad
I-ive just never cuddled a girl before o///o
>tfw trying to limit my flirting to one or two people at once
B-but I'm trying not to be a massive slut but it's not working ;~~;
You know what they say. Kissing leads to... hand holding.
I-I'm sure it's ok ^////^;;
I-I'm just shy that's all
I-if you can t-teach me how to cuddle properly I'd like that o////o;
Just don't forget about me elewdna!!
makes sense considering i actually go on /r9k/
he is a mentally ill straight man that wanted to live out his fantasies of masturbating to himself in the mirror. are you surprised that he looks like a man still? here is a current picture of him. kek
5,4,0,0,0,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,2,0,0,0,0 = 21
0,0,1,0,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,1,0,0,3 = 10
5,3,8,0,3,1,0,0,2,0,1,0,1,0,0,0,0 = 24
0,0,4,0,2,0,0,2,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,3,0 = 12
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,2,0,3,0,0 = 6
= 73 "Cyborg"
>>Slightly Strange - 89
what. teach me your ways pls
Boy mode, no HRT just diet and shaving. Doing squats for that ass too.
>gaming is mostly limited to console
i knew something was seriously off with this test
I recommend trying something on your eyebrows, just as a start I guess. It doesn't even have to be full done eyebrows, just try to make them more androgynous.
And better start growing that hair.
it becomes addictive because of the endorphin rush and anxiety, but yah I don't cut but I bite which is basically the same, it's mainly because if I ever fucked up and even when I didn't and they were just high and noticed me, I'd have the shit beat out of me, so I'd do it to punish myself for being stupid and to remind myself not to do it agian
Yeah I've been doing it for like 10 years now. It gets fewer and farther between each time but it's something I still think about. The last time I did it was a bit under a year ago by now, on my thigh. It doesn't satisfy me any more like it used to.
>maybe you can tell about how to kiss
I'd rather show you in person tbh.
>Sure some do it for attention
and she told us she wanted to cut herself?
i'm not 100% clueless i tried for years to figure out how the best way to cut myself was because i have awful pain tolerance but i was just too much of a bitch to even do that properly
>This isn't true tbh
>Probably was just being an edgy idiot thou
it was actually pretty funny when my parents found out i had tried because i just had a few surface cuts that barely even bled and they were acting like i slashed my wrists in the bathtub
it's only a cry for help as long as you're crying for help
ugh take me anon
; __ ; How long do the scars take to fade?
Do you still have scars?
It's okay if you don't want to answer, pretty personal question tbqh.
I'm scarred mine will be there forever ;;
Maybe she wants someone to talk to so she doesn't cut herself.....?
you're the best,
I'm going to keep working on my falsetto too
60 If it wasn't for the mental section or the not having had an official gf before, and also not having money, I think myself as slightly strange.
But since that isn't the case I'm a cyborg apparently.
>take me anon
a different anon here desperate for love, hi
i'm feeling crazy depressed. maybe i'll never pass. do you think i should kill myself?
everything is going badly.
well you're just as much worth protecting now and we probably like you, but someone had to go and hit the panic button where we all report in "yes, i like you and you're worth protecting"
so what's wrong
I guess I'll write an explanation as to why I do it to add to the reasoning others have.
When I'm really frustrated/depressed/angry I've got all these unorganized and racing thoughts and I can't seem to focus on anything or think clearly. Most of the time I can't even cry about these things. Something needs to be destroyed or created when I feel this way and that's a really common sentiment for people who are feeling any kind of overwhelming emotion, good or bad. We want something meticulous and requiring concentration. What isn't normal is to hurt yourself as a way to do this, but when I do it I focus anything upsetting into a physical and tangible thing, something I can see and control, something I created and can feel in the real world on my body instead of in my head where it's just wild. This is what hurts. It's right here. I can see it now. I can cover it and maybe even put something on it to make it feel better.
It doesn't make much sense but that's the only way I can explain it.
>; __ ; How long do the scars take to fade?
Years, and I'm like the wimpiest cutter I've ever known.
>Do you still have scars?
Yes. I can still see the last one I did on my leg from February but it's really hard to see now so it'll fade eventually.
i'm so tired of trying though. it's hard being the weird trans girl. everyone seems like they're nice to me and i'm sure a lot of them are genuine in their niceness but i just want to be a normal person. not sure that made any sense sorry.
>oh hey,your from that thread on the arcane board! would not recomend it tbh.
yeah hi :)
i hope you're well.
>Don't suicide, work your arse off and get surgery.
i have been working hard. but then one bad night and everything is fucked again. i keep doing this. drop out of college like 8 million times, suck at keeping jobs, etc. not sure why i have this need to fuck my life up every few months.
I guess im a faggot even to cut myself, i never go too deep, just enough to feel better.
all my legs scars has got better in like a month being barely visibles.
i once made a large cut on my chest, from the height of my nipples to a little past my navel, i can still see it, that was in february i think.
you had a rough time if only you had been more oiled up to take this shafting
I got white stripes all over the place, they all stay forever. The red fades after 3 or 4 months usually and leaves behind a nice reminder :) I like looking at them, they're pretty.
*positive and motivational noises*
but seriously have you ever been tested for other psychological conditions?
i dropped out of college twice due to unexplained illness (and once due to all of my blood leaking into my abdomen) and i worked my ass off for two years and now im bakc at the school thjing doing pretty alright so like
i might hve to fall laslsp now
okay. i don't want that, then. spent enough time and money being locked away.
don't be mean :(
yeah i made endo do a panel on me. was convinced i had thyroid problem but turned out i was just crazy depressed. got through it, but it's coming back big time.
and i'm so tired of it. maybe everything really would be better if i died.
there is everything wrong with being anonymous on mtfg and it is not a meme
me too, we'll see what happens the next few months
i was literally ready to kill myself before i got in with the IC clinic in toronto, i had a big long suicide note for it that even let my family know nicknames for my cats and shit, dark times tbh
>tfw he says everything you've ever wanted to hear and for once you almost believe it
m-maybe one day i'll be like the m-mostest confident ever
>tfw we're on the verge of discovering greatly intelligent alien life
>tfw they will have instant gender and form changing technologies
has anybodys hair got lighter on hrt? 3 months in and there are patches of noticeably bright hair coming in and spreading. almost looks like I dyed it a whiteish blonde in comparison to a darker blonde everywhere else.
it's fun to maintain an identity and you can shitpost with complete abandon as long as you don't post a pic of yourself
i'm not going anywhere anytime soon, although sometimes i might feel like it... i'm not the nicest person in the world, but there are plenty worse than me, so i'm gonna stick around as long as i can help others without hurting myself in the process
I've had that issue at first and it got so bad I had nightmares about pulling out whole wisps of hair, I tried all sorts of stuff, different shampoo and biotine and all, but it just went away eventually when I had given up. I'm taking Spiro, so maybe I just didn't drink regularly enough and was dehydrated. Or maybe it was just some transitional process going on, I dunno. Haunted me for ages.
But seriously its fun to cut. It makes you feel alive when you cut and all of a sudden the thoughts of wanting to die go away.
This is my fetish to do to someone while they are tied up with my cock inside of them and i pull their hair and I say degrading things
Than I cuddle with them afterwards and tell them they were the best
drinking and cutting never help with depression, they only validate it
source: i drink often and am currently drunk and all it does is free me to be even more emotionally-volatile than i already was
>not putting your self into your trip
the point isn't to shitpost, it's to shitpost while tied to an identity that says "i'm awesome because of who i am because i am an awesome person" which thus encourages shitposting because only awesome people trip
please don't cut yourselves guys. i have scars all over and now i'm afraid to wear short sleeves at work and school. it really sucks in the summer. i have great skin otherwise but i can't show it off :(
not worth limiting your fashion choices imo. and it's not sexy for when you're looking for bfs
for those of you who have had to go at this completely alone how did you start? did you go to a therapist or a doctor or just start self medding? id really like to start hrt before the years end but i dont know what to do
Im a united states faggot tbh
>telling fetishes with your woman
>tell her im into her blood all over me
I don't even have an issue with period blood. Bloods so animalistic the smell the scent the taste so amazing.
It just does
Everyone wants to die until they are actually dying
But after a while the rush goes away so you cut deeper and more
You don't have to show them but im a weirdo tbh i love looking at them
i'm just autistic tbh
and i'm actually a great person but you'll never know because you'll never trip so i'll never friend you unlike that one anon who really wanted to friend me and now we're great friends
other side of same arm. they're worse on my upper arms but that's easy to hide anyway. these are the ones i'm scared of people seeing.
Well you're probably right in that I'll never trip, I'm open minded but I walk away from almost every social encounter with consequences with intense regrets. I'd like 4chan to remain a place where I can talk without adding anymore baggage.
Saw a doc for about 9 months, got annoyed that it was going nowhere, told him bye, read up contradictory stuff about the meds being used, found a few online stores on 4chan and went ahead and ordered what I found would do the job and went with an average dose, since I'm a somewhat below average sized person. Got my blood checked after over a year and raised my dose a bit because T was a tad too high. All in all it could have happened much faster if I had went the official way from the start, but now I'm again where I should have been at the start in order to get my surgeries; waiting for my psychiatrist to sign me some paper. However, I did save up to pay them on my own in case all else fails, but I'd obviously prefer not to cause I could almost buy a small house for that.
Speech therapy luuuuuckily was far less stressful. And laser epilation is cheap enough to pay on my own too cause I ain't gonna be a bearded transvestite for my health insurance.
who is veronica pgn tbh
that's fine, i'm just saying tripping has its own benefits
[spoiler]it's not like trips don't go anon frequently anyway[/spoiler]
i don't care about scars. i just want to not want to kill myself.
I've been thinking about it nonstop. My therapist told me I need to find a reason to live. I agree. Can't find any reason though.
live because there is still time to travel the world and taste all the delicious foods. there are countless vegetables out there you've never even heard of. isn't that reason enough to live? :(
maybe i'm just surprised because it was my arm she reacted to. it felt weird and i didn't like it. my scars are terrible reminders of my self-destructive tendencies, and for someone to be turned on by them makes me upset somehow.
what the difference between purera and actual hormones ? once my parents realize im taking weird things im going to get kicked and i dont have money to afford a place. also the love from my parents is more valuable than this retarded fantasy
like a month ago.
we live, put forward mountains of effort and pain, maintain patience, suffer basically...so that we can indulgently enjoy food and friends? temporarily? i don't want to live an entire life and try really hard and constantly put my best foot forward (and likely, fail every time) just so that I can one day die and everyone i know can die and eventually there be no memory of who we were or what we did. Given the sheer volume of the earth, living is inconsequential. joy is whorish and greedy and disgusting. art is pointless.
yea, but they'll also not have to worry about me anymore and i won't get in their way constantly. I also know how to disappear in a way they think I'm still alive.
the difference is that PM is a hormonal analogue, not a direct human estrogen
if your parents don't open your mail then you're fine until 6-12ish months on PM, if they do then you're fucked because typically PM has some kind of estrogenic-oriented labelling
it is effective but you have to be willing to risk your health by taking a lot and be willing to absorb the cost of taking it in high amounts while you're unable to get traditional HRT
alldaychemist and whatever are probably better chemically, but if you can't access them PM is far and away the next best step compared to taking nothing at all
It's a bit older I'm afraid, but they left some very decent scars. If it was for you I'd have added a little tag, but alas it's cold and I don't feel so much like cutting just now. Sorry!
>we live, put forward mountains of effort and pain, maintain patience, suffer basically...so that we can indulgently enjoy food and friends? temporarily? i don't want to live an entire life and try really hard and constantly put my best foot forward (and likely, fail every time) just so that I can one day die and everyone i know can die and eventually there be no memory of who we were or what we did. Given the sheer volume of the earth, living is inconsequential. joy is whorish and greedy and disgusting. art is pointless.
i didn't mean so much hedonism for its own sake. but the experience overall. this is what there is to experience, and we're here doing that for a reason. i'm not sure if you're religious or not, but i believe that if you kill yourself you'll be reborn into worse circumstances and forced to live countless lives until you're given another chance like what you have now.
maybe live for others, if you can't live for yourself. the least you can do is not hurt your loved ones by dying so hatefully and young. maybe dedicate your life to the service of others. it's not hard to do, honestly.
I want to rub my hands all over your body so badly...
I want to feel every mark...
I want to rub my cock on them...
Yeah i don't actively look for it or nothing but I love it
Itv gives me such an intense body high looking watching seeing it
I tried it but it isn't for me.
I have cigarette burns all over me and some cuts but its not for me
Its fine sweetie it looked really cool
QQ I haven't gotten any ;-; how can I send you dirty corset shots?
there's nothing after death. i would rather not exist i think, than exist for this experience.
I'm honestly too useless to try and help anyone. I can disappear. My family will never know what happened to me, and for the sake of living comfortably, they'll lie to themselves and say I ran away to Canada or something, that I'm still out there.
I just haven't yet. I'm scared and disappointed in the world and in myself.
seriously though, how do you stop hating yourself? it's like a compulsion for me. i can barely go a few minutes without telling myself i hate myself at least once
i'm probably hopeless
i appreciate this post too much. this is what anonymous posting is meant for. something like this, it gives me some semblance of hope maybe. nostalgia from when i was younger and happier. when i would watch anime on school afternoons, home alone, because everyone is at work. just me and my dog watching chobits and princess tutu. things were simpler. i woke up in the morning. i cared, even if I was young, I cared and thought that maybe I could be something great and life would be fine. I didn't know what boys and girls were yet, I didn't understand the difference. I didn't have to think yet, about all the meaningless effort required to just keep living
i'm a girl. i'm a girl i'm a girl i'm a girl i'magirli'magirli'magirli'magirl
yes you are. there is a fount of goodness in each person. you just have to learn how to tap into it again. don't give up.
it takes time and practice. meditation helped me a lot. you learn to sit and forgive yourself gently. harsh judgements are hard habits to break, but it's not impossible.
I feel like changing providers so I can get a phone that actually works, but I'll moving soon soooo
so you were the one posting those pics lol I knew it
l-literally what my first gf would send texts to me at 2am about, she said she dreamed of biting my neck until I bled and that she had my blood all over her teeth...
you have no idea how hard i'm holding onto my memories right now. I moved all the way to Montana because I thought maybe being here would make me happier again.
your perspective on life and mine clash.
what do I do specifically or what does everyone do? the answer for both questions are sorta alike - complain, feel, whine. mtfg is diary.
>your perspective on life and mine clash.
especially when you're so depressed, yeah. i don't mean to say i'm right and you're wrong, but you're not in the best place mentally right now and that makes it hard to see things clearly. how do you feel at your best? about life.
>She doesn't, she wears a corset though so it might look like that I guess.
I thought that too... then put it on and thought I'm definitely gonna die now. Put it away for a few weeks, then decided to try again, go gentle and make sure I sit and move comfortably. But it just didn't get better over time. I could feel my organs in a nasty way. Wear that to some special occasion? I got enough things to worry about as transwoman, I don't need my clothes to slowly kill me while I'm occupied.
what would you like to do instead?
roughly the same. i think when i feel good it's just a yolo, fuck it attitude. life would definitely be a lot easier if i believed in a god or reincarnation or some sort of spirit holding everything together.
the happiest i am today is when i'm not considering the real world. If I'm absorbed in fiction, or in music, or both. I should just write until I'm dead and never do anything else again.
I think im going to convert to Jewdyism
Be nice she's so amazingly hot
At least based on her arms.
Id never try to convince her to cut again because I know how much it hurts her but I still like the visuals.
Leave her alone
My deck is hella fun to play with though, ask adri she played with it for hours last time she was down
Collect on magic online buy lists, redeem set, you tend to get a set for about $100 less then it's value. Packs are less value then you pay to buy them, and singles are the exact value they are worth +\-
>when are we playing magic again
you should come visit :)
Those are nice b... binders
Oh no I didn't see that, but now I'll know lol. I need to spend more time on other boards, aside from here I usually only go on /wg/ to tell people their wallpapers are crap
Looks like she's been using her kid's playset mascara
m8 my situation went from shitty to good literally overnight a month ago, i was packed and ready to move expecting them to reject me. be happy not everyone in the world is a piece of shit yeah.
UK, near Cambridge, probably not ideal huh
holy mother of kek
Gonna epilate when I finish work so I'm nice and smooth for a boy tomorrow. He's going to kiss me, bite me and tear me apart like soft bread. I just know it.
fam, this deck is brilliant, the two people who played it went to day two pro tour, and it caused Lilliana to double in price.
you kinda seem like you're starting to feel a little better now. who was that philosopher guy obsessed with keeping his mind on things other than the present moment? think it was like ancient greece but he wasn't one of the big names. anyway you made me think of his philosophy.
maybe a good life is one spent daydreaming. not the life for me, but it could work for others maybe :P
>mfw no faye to play magic with until we pass out on each other
I'm just a crazy romantic that tries to find an edge between my own passions and trying to slightly weird people out. I used to write as a hobby (poetry, a play, I wrote a sorta joke romantic song about another trip yesterday) so go ahead, use my lines, they're all yours my friend.
I write a bunch of poetry and stories all the time also. I ERP more than I should. It passes the time
>tfw you're good at writing erotic verbiage on a computer that you seec someone steal your lines
Its just fun to read your posts. Never stop the lewd
uh that was definitely not me.
>find him for me and maybe I'll live.
>I'm the sort of person that would want to stay in the matrix.
blah idk. that was in a humanities class like 2 years ago i heard of him. tried to google but i don't even know what to search for tbh :(
it stuck with me though because it was like the exact opposite of what i try to practice.
but anyway i hope your night gets better. maybe someday you'll find a way to stay in the matrix for good or something? idk
I have no idea how to find the link or name of it anymore. It was just a cheap black one. And the benefit in my case was marginal; I hope the same goes for you. Those things come straight from hell.
I'd do much better with something that helps my hips than my waist...
>thanks for trying
sorry i wasn't so great at helping. it's hard knowing what to say. please don't kill yourself though. life is okay sometimes maybe...
>an old man looks out to sea, adjusts his hat, strokes his beard and narrows his eyes as the wind changes and a low rumble is heard in the distance
>str8 guys a-comin', god help those poor trans girls out there, fishin' for compliments. god help them.
actually its more likely that its the BPA our moms ingested during our pregnancies that did it
>i wonder if doctors could like; break your pelvis and then widening it something
And then my shoulders and feet for the opposite effect. Oh that would be too good to be true.
Gonna go like breaking my face(FFS) -> bed, dick off -> bed, breast enhancement -> bed, hips and other features reshaped -> bed for very long. Living the life!
And then when my shoulders still heal I poke my eye out with a mascara.
>we just talked all about why
i mean sort of. i got that you feel useless and life hurts, but those are pretty general statements. is it just depression and trans stuff + being alone?
sorry. now i'm kinda getting depressed. what's your life like? kinda broad question but yeah.
I just got one that's 7x10, and it'll swallow a nexus 7, but I want something smaller that'll cross body.
couple of the fulltimers like full size tote's, and they probably know something I don't
If you ever see a skinnyfat cycling wheezing their way across rural Cheshire ask them for a hug and if it's actually me you'll probably get one.
'fraid that's the best I can do right now.
I just realised how depressed the thread is at the moment so I guess that goes for all of you.
i've failed in life at almost every turn, and I am literally always unhappy unless I'm watching tv or listening to music or writing or doing something basically totally unproductive. my mother hates me and doesn't want to see me, my grandparents are entirely inconvenienced by me being here even though they refuse to admit it, they're having money trouble and there's no space for me. my grandfather and my uncle won't speak to me. i can't be myself in this town because everyone knows my family and they'll become pariahs if it's discovered that i'm a pervert. the one person who has ever actually enjoyed my company is begging for me to come back and live with her and I want to, but I'm terrified I'll be useless and I'll work at some shitty job and be terrible at it and be a disappointment and I'll fail at things again. Not to mention I'm trapped in this wide shouldered, honnish body.
Right now my day to day is watching netflix, cuddling with my dog, and trying really hard to not want to die.
sorry for wasting your time....on 4chan...
no thank you.
>There are people here who actually believe who you want to have sex with matters or means anything
It's almost like all of the LGBT efforts were hilariously pointless!
Like I have cheap totes for day trips and shopping, you want a small cross body for walking around daily, and the little wristlet is for quick trips and doubles as a wallet when you're using a bigger "man bag"
how many suicide-fags are flying around ?
im clinically depressive, which depress me a lot to know i will never be able to be truly happy no matter how good things are, also i have been dealing with the dysphoria for years, most of the time in denial because i knew my parents wont be supportive and i will probably get killed or kill myself faster if i came out.
my parents are so fucking shitty about it, i was threaten i either leave the house or stop being a faggot.
i live in a shit country where affording a place to live is nearly impossible without a degree.
so i have been trapped in the going-nowhere limbo for the last years.
I'd get this If I wasn't trying to pass for a straight cis male
Wore a turtleneck today and died a little inside when I looked in the mirror. It's like my shoulders try to match a perfect rectangle. Feet are one size above common women sizes too...
All the awesome shoes I had to pass on make me wanna cry.
why not like
just stop trying to pass as a straight cis male and buy and dress how you want