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Not spooky >>5151839
>tfw u have a thigh gap while all your cis girl friends don't
>tfw they can all poledance and u can't
/mtfg/ how do I get chubby legs? I wanna be a pole dancer
to the kind anon who pointed me to the oia stuff on fyi in the last thread
the attitudes of the DHBs and the Ministry kinda come off as
kinda wish i could be part of the local community in nz but some people have (probably unfairly) put me off.
The main things putting me off from being part of the community is agender and their moronic president.
i kinda think the no pride in prisons people are ok but i admit i have never interacted with them as i am in the south island.
I've only had laser, pretty much everywhere. I don't find the pain that bad but other people might disagree.
Effectiveness varies. What I got done at a clinic has stayed mostly gone. After about six years I bought a tria to try out doing touchups at home. It's not bad for getting the small amounts that have grown back. It's a little bad for clearing large patches of stuff that I never got treated. Like using it on my underarms is tedious and there's still hair after 7 treatments, but there's definitely less and no significant shadow after I shave.
>tfw being on 4chan and leddit gives you a really bad feeling towards males
I had hair that sounds like yours, and I got it lasered. It hurt but it wasn't *that* bad, and they have a numbing cream you put on for if it does hurt too much. As for effectiveness i have like 3 hairs left that grow in, I just shave them and they're invisible. Took a looong time though, I've got my hopefully last session at the end of november, and I started in february.
Well I rarely go there at all, and I was going to just say 4chan but then I remembered that whenever I've visited that site there's been some males being really stupid and misogynistic. So maybe it's not just 4chan but men in general.
well I use vegetable glycerin which is sweet so it's just kinda like weed-y honey or something tho at my last appointment for my like cannabis prescription thing the nurse said something about newer research showing alcohol freeing up some compounds better so I was thinking of trying to make some kind of mix next time
oh do your parents live where there are mouse(mice?)-deer?
the sad reality is that people in general don't really give a shit about other organisms and their effect on the ecosystem, at least not enough to do anything, so responsible utilization of animals and plants to show their value to humans within society can be one of the best ways to spur preservation efforts
also both the greens and labour have had trans issues included as part of their rainbow policies. there were two labour groups that voted for srs to be fully funded which is what caused all the shit from national/labour mps earlier in the year.
greens want informed consent but are otherwise unspecific.
i have hair like yours, super dark, very pale skin, can see the follicles still after shaving (apart from my arms which are blonde/brown so not so bad) i'm only lasering my face and neck because hormones and epilator seem to be working pretty well for the rest. the first session hurt like hell. the second did too. the third was nothing. 3 more to go. laser is great. i get a real high out of it from the pain and stench of burning hair and the weeks after a session are so exciting. one day you wake up and your the shadow is so much less. its magic
We'll just have to eat our own spaghetti instead.
From my experience, I had like 8 sessions (coming from a full beard) and it got rid of a good amount via laser. I had like maybe less than 80-100 hairs in the end. Now I'm doing electrolysis to get rid of the rest.
Oh, it was one of the No Pride in Prisons people that I, ah, don't get along with. Even if I do think prisons are a fucking atrocity.
Basically I hadn't come out so everything opinion I had or point of disagreement was handwaved away because I was cis, even though nothing we were talking about had anything to do with that anyway. I will avoid an angry rant now, however much I want one.
Maybe I'll just move to Australia.
I honestly don't even remember. They were every 5 weeks or so at first and lately have been every 2 months so maybe 8 total?
I still had a little bit of "shadow" left around my mouth but started to realize that it's actually muscle mustache, not hair. So that could be whats causing that
>Basically I hadn't come out so everything opinion I had or point of disagreement was handwaved away because I was cis
oh thats shit although tbf having seemingly cis people tell trans people about trans issues does get kind of annoying. still dumb anyway.
just dont let one person scare you out of the community if you want to be a part of it.
and i dont think australia is that much better really.
pretty sure that's a mouse-deer, a tiny deer-like animal from africa and asia
for tiny deer there's also the pudú from south america which is actually deer
"normal" deer also have issues in many area with disease and over-foraging destroying ecosystems from overpopulation due to human removal of natural predators like wolves
It wasn't about trans issues, otherwise I would've got it. And there was other stuff, probably not for public consumption.
Where in the South Island are you? I'm actually in Christchurch at the moment.
Aus isn't that great for trans stuff. Its easy to change your sex on federal documents, but that basically only covers your passport. Birth certificate is handled by the states, and in nsw and Queensland at least you need Srs to change your sex. And Srs isn't covered by anything because it's "cosmetic", even though you need it to legally change your sex...
well I'm already an alcoholic so whateves, the amounts would probably not be large enough to rlly matter tho since tincture is like the most concentrated form of cannabis without going into crazy shit with oils and crystals
if you're on hrt and getting your levels checked and stuff then little things like red meat and stuff don't rlly matter anyway, that's more stuff ppl worry about when they're pre hrt and trying to minimize T or trying to make herbal bs work
went to bed yesterday perfectly fine.
wake up with fever.. uhoh and with the deepest voice ever. funnn
Also I'm being extremely incomplete about what actually happened because it's a huge fucking mess that someone could probably identify me by if I gave much more detail or accuracy. Petty and Vindictive is not a misnomer in her case. I was just a little worried you might be her, or know her personally or something.
ahh ok gotcha.
>tfw you went vegetarian for that reason but now it doesn't matter
also gotta go to the store to get a stapler and scissors to work on my costume! I should probably get a sharpie too :x but I'll post a pic when I'm done!
oh found another "deer" pic(it's actually a dikdik), this one's a baby tho I don't think the others were, I also have two pics of actual baby deer
Heya mtfg ^_^ how's it going? I hope your day is wonderful!
both really. i dropped out a few years back and tried to kill myself last year. started hrt and stuff this year and have been slowly getting my mental health in order and letting hrt do its thing.
>tfw kicked out by parents
>tfw finally part time and and have a boss who supports me transitioning at work
>tfw you have a friend with a medical licence who has said he will take an inch out of both of my shoulders :)))))))))))
>tfw you've found a new gp who is ftm so may well be sympathetic
Best thing that ever happened to meeee
Carve a picture of an aubergine into your pumpkin.
lol, well if you feel like being omnivorous again the carnitas and the goat barbacoa from taco trio are pretty great for pure meaty overload, it's still good to get better quality meat and just have it more rarely tho
gotcha. i'm still pre-everything and second-guessing and self-hating. no real suicide attempts as yet, and less serious planning for it than i used to have. even just accepting transition as an option is helping a bit, with the whole hope thing.
Thank you! Idk if I'm in a good mood because I feel pretty or if I feel pretty because I'm in a good mood.
Booooo. I love Halloween and I haven't dressed up for it in years.
>>tfw you have a friend with a medical licence who has said he will take an inch out of both of my shoulders :)))))))))))
I uh, don't think that's possible
Well I'm doin better now that my weeby waifu is here ;3 but uhhh for serious I'm just gunna stay home and play video games all day and drink pic related
Well I don't ur awesome and the nicest lady here by a long shot. And if you go I'll never be able to enjoy Ronnie comics again ;____;
Just do it sis ~ I wish I was there to take you by the hand and show you how
Go out on the town and just enjoy the day/evening really. There's lotsa fun stuff to do alone that involves not being at home. : 3. Haha ur so adorable sometimes
Well it doesn't cost me anything to be nice to someone, even if that someone is anon (sometimes) I wish you all the best tho. You deserve to be happy.
>sempai wordfiltered into incorrect spelling
i kind of want to do political science, but i will probably do computer science. one is just an interest the other has way better job potential
and if you want advice on transition obligatory see a therapist. although if you are going back on the dole soon that probably isnt affordable. you could try and find a service with a scaling price system and get the disability allowance from winz to help pay for it. $60 a week means you should be able to see even an expensive therapist a couple of times a month.
wanna hear somethin spooky?
you will always have a male skeleton inside of you
Looks really neat desu. Yeah I say go for it. Smiles and laughing is healthy for ya too. So have a blast!
YUSH! I'm not gunna start drinking till the sun goes down tho. Its too early to start for me. I was planning to cutepost and be nice to everyone till I start playing vidya.
(PS we're still canon otp bb)
Just enough desu ;_; we'll have some drunk hookups and ttly reget it later and then come here to cry about tfw no bf ;n;
I'm D y I n g here. Ur TELLIN me there's a MR skeletal livng inside me RIGJT now?
You know what, fuck it I will. The world wont come to me so I guess I have to go out there. I guess the cool part is I can wear a dress and no one can say shit because it will be Halloween in west Hollywood, you can't get gayer than that, I just wish I had someone to go with
Do it Kayla, you won't stand out at all and will look like a normal girl just like me.
Happy Halloween /mtfg/! I hope you all have a spooky day!
Guys what do you think about SPOOKY SCARY SKELETON? desu sempai?
[spoiler]I'm loving the word filter so much[/spoiler]
Uhh we can dance lewd with each other till a boy notices ;~;
>you will never hug hiroyuki
feels bad desu sempai
wait, this is terrible, what will the no anime faction do now?
sorry to anoy you, but help me decide please desu.
I constantly change my mind aout transition, a week ago i was sure. I finally ordered spiro and payed for it. But now im having doubts again.
Im not terribly dissatisfied with my body, i maybe could live with it. i am attracted to some women too, and most of all i want to do some things in life that transitioning hinders me from ding (Being buddhist, living in communes, backpacking).
What if im in some delusion? ive had psychosis before, and it did feel differently and i knew delusion from reality, hallucination from reality etc. But what if this time i lost contact with the world and if i start taking antipsychotics again id stop wanting to be a woman (the doc told me not to take them, not my decision to quit)
Or what if im an AGP degenerate, and ill be happy for a few years and then kill myself from gender dysphoria that ill experience from not being male?
help, idk if i should post here or trans help. sorry if wrong thread
Anige I swear fuck off and leave me alone. Just so everyone knows that is not my new trip this and no I'm not going to any halloween party. The last time I went out on halloween dressed up I got beat up, I hate this stupid holiday and can't wait for it to be over.
>The last time I went out on halloween dressed up I got beat up, I hate this stupid holiday and can't wait for it to be over.
I remember you saying this when I said it was my fav holiday.
I can believe this is you.
I'm glad to know I won't see you around WeHo tonight, that would be AWKWARD
W-wasnt Erin's crush IRL and a straight boy tho?
>Being buddhist, living in communes, backpacking
Being trans hasn't stopped me from being Buddhist, I can't imagine how it would affect backpacking, I know girl hikers and what's a commune?
I've had very powerful psychotic episodes in the past with terrifying hallucinations that I couldn't immediately separate from reality and I've never doubted that I'm female
I don't think you're just some fetishist, I think the fact that you're fretting about people thinking you aren't legitimate shows that you are
I really want you to be happy and I don't think you would be if you denied yourself
Applying for a job online using a phone is an abstract kind of hell
Someone pls kill me
You stole my picture senpai. I'm not mad though, here have another.
(I read that yaoi and love it. Was soooo cute . . . .and lewd .////.)
>not dressing as a degenerate hamster girl for Halloween
>I don't think anyone here can carry a slutty costume.
you don't know me that well
Is that izumi from Love Stage!! ?
Also, hi /mtfg/ I got back from costume party last night and now I feel lazy and don't want to go to work wat do?
Is there anywhere I can find a how to tuck for dummies? I can do it, just need to get the position of the tape right cos I did it earlier and couldn't cross my legs. Probably didn't help I was using hypafix to do it....
Just made a new amazon account with new name and all that. What are some good things i could buy? I have 300$ to spend.
- kink stuff
Any ideas? What do you always wanted to buy off the internet but hadn't any money left for?
>tfw you will never smooch your ghostpai on halloween night
It's udagawachou de mattete. It's not as cute as love stage though senpai. Thats pretty much it for the yaoi I've read.
OK just got back, ended up getting some groceries and some makeup and did it all with my nails still painted! But I felt mega awkward the whole time...
oh my god I'm literally dying it's so CUTE
and gotcha, that sounds real good! I had a friend who used to work there and he loved the food. The workers and distance away from his place sucked though
you look super cute though!
I work at a bank which isn't much better I guess.
I wish ;-; alot of them have fairly normal looking boys and that doesn't do anything for me. ;< izumi was such a perfect protagonist for me.
>not as cute
Hmm I'm concerned about the lack of cute, but I'll give it a go desu
Sis there is literally nothing wrong with working at McDonalds a paycheck is a paycheck, especially when ur unemployed. Besides it's not a life goal lol. I just want some I come while I go to uni.
working at mcdicks sucks but it's a paycheck doing easy stuff. I actually was working there until recently when I decided to start transitioning. Where I worked was in a very bad part of town and most of the people who worked there (including the guy I could probably trust the most and I liked the most) are homophobic and pretty much everyone is transphobic. There's a transwoman who works there who's like 50, doesn't shower, talks shit about everyone, and creeps on the high school girls, so she gives trans people a bad name there and I knew if I transitioned there I would get a lot of shit.
But don't let that keep you from getting money. Having money is better than having no money
>ywn give a handsome stranger a lewd kiss in the lap
Uhh this comic ;-;
Did you girls hear that a Transgender woman won ''Holland's next top model''? Maybe it's old news but Ive not seen it posted here yet :o
Spoopy Halloween btw! :D
Ya leri that's why I'm not a fan of it
Well I know all that and I'm not really dysphoric in normal day to day activities so presenting male doesn't really bother me. And ya I want money being broke and hungry AND living at home while at uni is embarrassing desu. I hate having to rely on my friends to keep me fed and buy me stuff.
Kids these days. The singer of Placebo.
SWEET! I'll have to check it out!
Also get it RIP my skin and like you ripped your skin haha... ;-; sorry
yea then that should be fine for you! just don't let anyone put you down for trying to get a job and support yourself regardless of where it is
also here's some music for everyone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNTwYzoFzck
Holding out hope is always worth doing. Just keep it up and I'm sure one day they'll reach even if they may not be reciprocated.
And y'all aren't sluts, just rampant flirts.
But it's okay. Alot of people here are.
ROFL its pretty tough (impossible) for mtfg to bully me since I'm fairly emotionally buff ^ ^; buy I really appreciate the sentiment it says alot about it character (I used to trip in another gen on another board for like 3 years and that "community" was insanely toixic and hostile. It makes mtfg look like a petting zoo by comparison xD )
For . . . .good? O.o
Ayyy lmao its funny how you guessed it right away. But yeah lolgen is cancer incarnate and li I t e r a l l y the worst anything on this site. For every 2 cool anons/trips, there is 20 toxic hostile "le kill urself" silver surfer memer there. Honesty that place is insufferable for an extended period of time. There are ppl there that would legitimately want to kill themselves over losing in a video game . . . think about that for a second.
ok that's good then! haha.
yea I used to trip on /sp/, actually got quite a few people who hated me (although mostly because I'm a Patriots fan) so I know how that is. Good you an stay strong!
Flirting is like one of the funnest hobbies tbqh senpai
League of legends general on vg. I suggest never going there. Shit isn't a strong enough descriptor for what that place is.
I used to do that too. I would periodically trip as my current (at the time) champ waifu. (Irelia, Sona, Vi, Fiora, Ahri)
Sis. Lemme tell you. If you can emotionally and mentally endure lolgen as a trip/name for an extended period, it'll make u the equivalent to an armoured battleship fused with a professional weight lifter.
I only mention her since she dragged me to some places with pros and hung out with George. She's a cool kid.
Yuno is... well she's like us, she's cool as fug but a bit conceited.
>tfw had to carry that shitter to d1
I could have been challenger for all the work I put in LOL
What elo do you play at?
I know. I dress like a boy everyday. :c
Ya everyone loves raffs she's got that spark of personality that draws ppl to her. Uhh I'm not bashing her but I do t think Yuno is even that good x.x she's really only popular and hailed so much cuz high elo + trans since being trans is super trendy rn. But I don't dislike her or jelly or anything. Back when I had a computer I would drop in and out of challenger cuz I wouldn't play for really big stretches of times and the decay up there is INSANE t-thanks riot
I've actually been giving srs some serious thought desu
so I took my second estrogen dose earlier and now my guy clothes feel really... gross. idk how to describe it, it's like feeling dirty and unable to wash it off. is this normal, or is it agp?
>i get a real high out of it from the pain and stench of burning hair
oh god that sounds horrific
but I want the results
Did you know your posts from other boards have been screencapped and in turned been posted on other blogs?
>trying to demo something on noteflight
>realise about an hour in it's not actually 4/4 but instead some weird-ass time signature that misses half a beat here and there and that I can't put a figure to
>decay up there is INSANE t-thanks riot
it's actually not that bad, it just sucks when you play at the times all the one-trick ponies play and they get their shit banned. Like na ain't korea... these fuckers refuse to move on to the next game. Anyway, lol I only mentioned Yuno because of that, she's terrible but you know.. gotta stick with each other especially when that nintendonerd posted her pics and people were like OMG DICK. Eh I'm a fuck off now and play dota since league is a babby game.
nice to see other lolgen bads around here.
that's not me
same name, different tripcodes, I still use the same one I used w/ OlRapeyFace
I've gone by this name/trip here, on /tv/ a little bit and for about three threads on /lit/ but nowhere else
i'm going to sleep now cuties
i hope you all have wonderful halloweens and have really fun times
>captcha select all candy
only thing I could do with what I already own
fair. I mean, I support the creation of local economic ecosystems as part of a transition to a low-carbon society. I just wish they were working in renewables or agriculture, not that it's their choice.
So I showed up to hang it and thought the party was yesterday.... I was wearing a panda kigurumi..... I got looked at...
Yeaah its insanely expensive tho. So its way down there on my priority list. But my stance has changed from never doing it ever, to maybe someday. I don't think hrt will make the feeling intinsify or anything so that's good. I will get that brow shave done soonish tho.
Is it expensive to get? I was looking at laser since its the cheaper alternative. Ugh not having health insurance is the worst cuz American health care is retardedly high priced
i have opinions on local economic ecosystems
mainly that comparative advantage + economies of scale + shipping is more environmentally friendly than having a local industry for everything
and when it's not is when local industry becomes cheaper
and people just need to stop buying crap all the time
and live in yurts
the yurts part is important
yurts are great
I'm already on hrt and losing weight, though :-|
I do need more everyday female clothes, half my fem wardrobe looks like something you'd wear to a fetish club because I mostly wear it to fetish clubs (because I don't go out anywhere else except shopping)
I want qt H&M autumnwear, only thing stopping me right now is $$$ and aspergers fashion sense
Yeah well in terms of what it does for feels, SRS does less than a brow shave ever would. There's a reason people recommend it be the last step in transition unless you have bad dysphoria about your genitals.
Mooooom get off 4chan
You're welcome to come by anytime, you brightened up my day ^^
after trying both I personally prefer electrolysis tho it can be a bit slower cus they zap each hair instead of areas and if you have a problem with needles it may not super be your thing
also aren't you dark skinned? because laser only rlly works with certain skin/hair
I know, I don't mean for everything, but there are certainly some things that could be less globalised, for example tourism
and we need cloned meat desu, minuscule energy requirements on an industrial scale compared to rearing cattle
i know you are on hrt, which is why i said
>given some time on hrt
and yes it does seem like ur clothes are all fetish-y. which is not good in an everday wardrobe.
also h&m is super cheap lol...
Ya I can see why. Having a caveman brow ridge is pretty annoying to have to play around. Its a pretty big confidence killer tbqh
Well I'm weird. I actually LIKE getting shots and giving blood so needles are a non issue. But how long is the process? Ugh yeah I'm caramel coloured so my bears shadow doesn't show p much at all. But never having to shave again sounds like a god send
it's more like acupuncture than getting and injection or having blood drawn tho there is a little zap-pinch-pop that stings a bit
yeah laser relies on the skin absorbing as little energy as possible and the hair absorbing as much as possible so it only rlly work with light skin and dark brown/black hair, like the hair that laser didn't clear for me is apparently a bit more red
I flew too close to the sun with this tight dress... my gaff was being a bit poofy as I stood up and this lady just stared right at my crotch for like a solid 3 seconds. Then was like "uhhh uhhh oh my comp is frozen"
M-maybe she just thinks I have a large pubic mound? Fuck I see her all the time here.
I'm so fucking embarrassed right now I want to die but now I'm kind of laughing because there's nothing else I can do. It was really bad omg.
It's Halloween you fucking bitch just do it and laugh at people who look at you funny
Last year I went to a street festival with my then-partner as a couple from some webcomic he reads, so I was dressed up pretty much like a normal woman
no one knew what I was dressed as, my friends (who I was never out to) saw me, I just laughed and said "idunno" and no one gave half a fuck
>when ur an adult u must be serious all the time and never have fun and never dress up
Wow rude I was just asking a question I'm new to all this ;-;
Maybe it can be played off as spooky Halloween shinanigans. Sorry again for being stupid >.<
>adults should only have fun doing mature adult things for mature adults such as myself, fun things like doing your taxes and going to church and maintaining your lawn and joining a book club and watching serious historical documentaries
Stop making me do five captchas
>senpai filter corrected
well if you just want something feminine, go to a normal clothing store, h&m is really cheap but not the greatest, f21 is similar
idk if you want a step up, maybe try AA or j.crew but what do i know
What? I didn't even need my degree for this. It was kind of easy to get. They said I gave a really great interview though and I had to do it twice since the first position I applied for was filled by someone already working here.