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FtMg: Choose your own adventure edition
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Ancient map: https://www.zeemaps.com/edit/U0Hw9yNtqrJd-qzTdbUFMw
Some info (excuse the tumblr, it's truscum): http://helpfultransinfo.tumblr.com/tags/
Skype group: add cheeki-briki or duckduckfrog
Google Hangout: TBA
Tinder is actually a pretty good way to meet people, you just might want to indicate that in your bio. Mine literally says "just looking to meet new people", and tons of people in my area do that.
So I went to planned parenthood to get my T script renewed, ended up getting my first pelvic exam. Apparently my clitoris is large, even by post-T standards, and it always was bigger so they might test me for CAH. Would than make me intersex I guess? Does anyone here have it?
any of you fags watch the rugby world cup final?
>victory to le all blacks once more
>tfw surgery in two days
Might as well harness the power of internet anonymity to confess that I want a cutie wootie cis femboy as a bf so I can do all sorts of kinky shit with him.
Pin me up and call me jealous, anon.
Hello I posted in these threads a while ago because I was going out with a transboy and was wondering how to approach being sexual with him and I got some help and support and thanks fot that. I was asked to update you guys on it later.
He broke up with me yesterday because he wanted time for himself to figure out things related to gender and all that. I feel extremely terrible but aside from that, did any of you do anything similiar? Did it help?
>see ftm's and cute little dykes.
Didn't you read where I said I want a masculine trans boyfriend?
A tall and perfectly passing trans bf is the dream desu but trans guys in general are cute if they're masculine and tops
I want the cutie wootie mage gf, you're the wrong one buster
(Tfw no slime gf available? Y'all seriously not catering to my weird and unusual fetishes? You serious with me right now? This is illegal I'll have you all know)
I dunno bro. I dunno dude. Not so sure broski. You could stick your dick on a spider but would it feel good? Could you get yourself to atlantis and back off a spider? I sure couldn't
Now on the other hand, I'd totally leak out at least 9 batches of baby batter from fucking a slime. Even more if it's in cutie wootie boy/girl mode. Unf unf unf uuunnnnfffff
6 months. We're also 18 and 16 so I don't expect to be taken very seriously. He seems very sure that he is a boy but it's hard to wrap your head around I guess. I don't think he's worried about his sexual orientation for now.
Can't get on T yet for reasons. What are good foods to make me less "girly"?
reason is cause I feel we have already Skyped before and we didn't get past saying hi. You didn't seem interested in talking so why bother.
i actually don't really find feminine guys attractive at all... not in a sexual way anyway, i mean obviously some are attractive but they're just never my type... i like masculine guys...
pretty sure that doesn't count... there's gotta be an agreed on payment/arrangement beforehand and shit...
not anything that wasn't super casual... nothing against mtfs though, that's like generally how i feel about dating anyone other than my s/o... and i'm more into guys when it comes to longterm shit, more into women when it's casual generally...
i didn't dress up... i don't usually celebrate halloween like that, but i did get really shitfaced all day and had a great time with my s/o... one of our better anniversaries actually, which was nice, cuz i felt like i was getting to see all of the reasons i've spent 11 years with him (so far)
i've never done something like that to someone, but i guess he needed to... the only thing you can do is give it time and see how it turns out unfortunately... it all depends on him as an individual so there's not much that can be said...
i thought they all seemed sorta awful...
Play it. Mother fucker play it and don't look at anything spoily until you finish it. I haven't cared for many games in a long time, but it is genuinely good and the music is fucking A+.
I've been on T for a little while, but I think I sound like an MTF. How do I make my singing voice less faggy?
Anyone here has a Pierre packer, or any of similar size? What packing straps / packing underwear can be used with it?
This would be my first packer and I don't know if whatever ways of keeping it in place are all equally efficient
Not for a year now. I can't afford to get mine fixed & so I use my phone for everything, from email & job shit to my LDR. It's the only electronic thing I own. I'm slowly gaining money now but I was forced to leave my parents' after coming out and had been living with friends until recently, when I could finally afford the deposit for this place.
I used to come to this board to talk about the guy I lived with, who got his law job through his mother. He is a lot more understanding now & I'm out to everyone and have a doctor's appointment tomorrow in an effort to get on T.
I was suicidal but I feel a lot more hopeful now.
>at 25 take T the whole year
>happiest I've ever been
>stop for a while year because mom is suicidal about me transitioning
>for a year try to tell myself I'm mentally fucked up and trans shit isn't real, I just need to get over it
>I stay constantly and severely depressed to the point I'm considering suicide
>think, if I'm this depressed, I'm getting back on T
>literally just knowing I'm getting back on T improves my mood completely
>I'm 27 now, I don't even give any fucks if I can pass well or not, it's either transition or die
>not even concerned about my height or having to wear binders or change my name, just happy to start living the way I feel I need to
I tried so, so hard to just accept myself the way I was born, as a girl, trying to dress up and wear make up. I still feel like this transgender thing makes me fucking crazy, but I don't even care, I'll live a crazy life to be happy.
I'm glad to be back...
dude fuck yes Mountain Goats, I love that song.
And what >>5158770 said, you want to be resonating in your chest and the back of the throat. When I do it, it kinda feels like it's right under my sternum. I'm only just barely on T but I used to be an alto.
My grandmother would pinch my nose and if I could feel resonating, I was doinitwrong.
..that was more for general singing advice though, but it seems like it applies here too. You do sound a bit nasal. ...although yeah, Mountain Goats, nasal fits.
Possibly in the next month if my GP says yes. I doubt she will so I'm looking at Aug next yr (NHS) unless I suddenly get good hours at work and am able to go private.
Atm it feels like I'm at a standstill, honestly. I'm just hoping my GP will say yes & so I'm taking as much supporting evidence as possible.
because my pref relationship is dom x dom (ye ye, technically vers x vers) so we fight over power and both end up forcibly subbing one another every other time.
there are just more dom/vers men. i really give no fucks to someones gender or sex. if they can work with what they've got I'm game.
sexy mature dom ladies are GOAT but also basically don't exist so I go for a more fraternal dynamic. most women are so much fucking drama its not worth. most men aren't much better, to be fair.
i was so happy to see /ftmgen/s img wasn't one of those painting images we always have
also, lolita gf
It's not too bad, about fifty quid a head as a start, and then I take other things like sizing and materials into consideration.
And if the website is willing to work with me, pic should be related.
...honestly, I have no damn clue, I've been making things since I was fifteen? Possibly, and I only started doing paid work last year, because I was worried I'd be too lazy to do much,
I am, but at least it helps keep my mind off dysphoria and th elike.
>therapist says i should find some trans related support groups
>tell him it's no good because i always stick out like a pastafarian fuck at these things (not in those words)
>do it anyway he says, lolk
>join a new one
>some chill people, get into it just enough that i'm a little attached to them
>some obnoxious snowflake type keeps going on about "how do you tell if you're trans or just not a fan of the patriarchy's gender rolls??"
>some young guy with like a year on T backs her up and calls truscum "fuckers", says whatever she feels is A-OK
>same girl won't stop talking about how gross and fake and toxic masculinity is and how she's not trans male, she's non binary and prefers female pronouns, no desire to transition at all ofc
>open my mouth like the fuck that i am and say that my masculinity is not a performance, i would drop it if i could because that would be so much easier, gender is innate etc
>same guy tells me I'm being sexist, masculinity is totally a performance and gender isn't innate at all
>ask him why the fuck he transitioned then and he tells me "it's a form of body modification"
>cold shoulder next time i go from everyone, even the people i enjoyed chatting with
>shouldn't hurt, i expected this
>it still hurts
why do i live
iono, many trans people feel as if they are constantly in drag. You definitely should do some experimenting, but don't force an expression upon yrself as a result. You could also utilize your physical androgyny to perform neutrality? depending.
post pix if you would
this meme that homosexuality is only valid in cis people can stop any time now
and yeah, there are plenty of completely straight trans men, though fewer in comparison to the percentage of straight cis men. the discrepancy likely has to do with the fact that gay people's brains are more likely to be closer to those of the opposite sex in certain ways than straight people's, and trans people's brains are also in somewhat of an in between state, more similar to cis people of their gender identity than of their birth gender, but clearly not identical to either.
>homo is only valid in cis people
it's different because you guys have vaginas. Why do you think transbians get made fun of as straight men? Especially when they don't pass? I've seen Bonus Hole Boys. Those sad, hairy dyke looking ftms sitting on a toilet, awkwardly rubbing his/her clit and then moaning like a girl when a cis dude who they'll never look like, pounds his/her cunt and cums in it. Basically it's just watching some butch girl getting slammed by a man.
you literally brought nothing new to the table here. you already established that you think trans people can't be gay, bringing up your trans humiliation fetish isn't really relevant
i'm just saying the reality of the situation. A lot of you guys don't look like men, don't sound like men, claim to be gay men which is laughable because you got cunts and you'll act like a typical straight sorority girl to get some dick and beg daddy to fuck you good.
Mate I love you but stop responding to trolls. People aren't sageing so we're on the front page, that means we're going to get extra bullshit.
There's nothing you can say that will change their opinion or make them magically disappear. You can't win an argument with an idiot, you might as well be arguing with a pigeon.
That being said, what did you guys have for dinner tonight?
roasted some chicken myself, turned out nice. roasting things is so easy, just chop it up, salt and pepper and throw that shit in the oven.
why am i not allowed to have fun? i'm under no delusions that i can change this individual's mind, but a big reason i come to 4chan is to entertain myself by arguing with people who aren't going to get hurt if the arguments get mean sometimes. there's really no better place for that, since i don't want to form a visible identity around the arguments i make (even if they're only rarely ones i personally disagree with), and while i could anonymously invade the inboxes of individuals' tumblrs, why would i bother to find & keep track of the ones who are both willing to engage and entertaining to argue with? it's so much easier to just browse boards i already have interest in & have a nice surprise when someone particularly fun comes along.
Started with tilapia and recently got into salmon. those salmon filets from Sams are GOAT.
Going to try to get into canned tuna next but the smell really puts me off. This is the first chicken I tried to cook. I fucking accidently put it in upside down. Still delicious tho.
because you're shitting up the thread and by responding you're making the rest of us a target for even more trolling. most of us don't want this general full of shit flinging, we just want a place to chill with no drama.
I get it, I really do. but this doesn't come off as some intellectual debate where we aren't worried about hurt feelies. It comes off as a really obvious troll and someone egging them on by replying.
>have to submit essay tomorrow to undergrad program that decides the rest of my life
nah i mean to get into my undergrad program.
i have a pretty realistic view that if i don't get the one I want my life won't be ruined- might even be better, can't control fate
but its my top pick so ill still be really disappointed if i don't get it, and I know my family will be too
UF, for their BME program, nueral engineering track. I only have a 3.45 GPA but I have like a year as a research assistant in the neurobio lab at a tier 1 research institution, and independent research projects at another school. So I'm hoping that sells me. But it's highly competitive so I don't know. I keep putting off finishing the essay, but its not because im lazy. Its because I'm scared.
What will be will be, Im just so ready for this whole application process to be over. I'm not sure whether to mention I'm trans or not, it feels like pandering. But it's important to me and affected my life, and has made me a more resilient, determined person.
eh, deal with it, this is 4chan. i leave literally every other part of the internet alone, and i need -somewhere- to wind down and relax. it's not like it's in any way difficult to just ignore posts you dislike anyway, in fact that was exactly what i myself was just told to do.
Be personal with your personal essay. I wrote mine about a friend who OD'd on heroin. It'll stand out.
And always keep in mind that things can work out in ways you don't expect. I wanted to go to Berkley but I only got into SB, and I ended up stumbling into one of the best physics undergrad programs anywhere. So just keep moving forward no matter what happens.
Hmm, yeah I think mine needs more personal flair. I have all my qualifications clearly stated and strung together but there's no overarching theme because every time I try it just feels cheesy or pandering. I think part of that is just me being modest, though
Worst comes to worst I do really well on standardized tests so I know I'll do really well on the GRE, especially if I study. So I'll get into a good graduate program, hopefully.
Your words make me feel better though, I'll turn my essay in tomorrow and hope for the best. Have a good night.
that looks pretty delicious.
I didn't have nothing to eat today besides some candy and a gas station burrito.
I have recently been looking up shiner bock recipes cause I've been wanting to cook with it.
how the fuck do i find a new dealer? it's been fucking months now, and i just learned that the one local friend i learned had a dealer will probably be reluctant to recommend me to him because too many people in her social circle already buy from him. i want to fucking kill something, this is ridiculous. you can't just find dealers on the street because the only ones who'll admit it freely are too stupid to not get caught quickly. am i going to have to fucking make new friends just in hopes that i'll find one of them who's a stoner who can hook me up?
I got ovaries and uterus cut out 5 years ago or so, haven't noticed really any negative side-effect from it. Don't have to worry about ever bleeding again and even if I was pumped full of cum I don't ever have to worry about pregnancy scares and shit. Life's good.
>reluctant to recommend me to him because too many people in her social circle already buy from him.
i never understand this mindset
he's not gonna like...dealer-cheat on you, selling is his business
i can't really see why desu... i've been mistaken for a transgirl before too, and i've had their chasers hit on me and shit (and stay interested even after they realize i'm a transguy instead) so i do know what it's like... and while it's weird, it doesn't really make me question myself, i can remember being a little kid and feeling the way i do so i know it has nothing to do with other people's perceptions of me...
and it doesn't necessarily mean you look like a hon... idk... everyone who's ever told me that has also been really attracted to me and shit so i don't think it's an issue...
at least not for me anyway...
i don't understand why people like five nights at freddy's so much... my s/o had me play it, and it was kinda just boring...
good work though>>5162022
honestly if you're walking into a group of people you gotta take some time to watch the group dynamic and shit or not care what happens if you're gonna open your mouth and argue on the first day... i'm not saying your opinion was wrong cuz i agree with you, but it's not really surprising that you're getting the cold shoulder for being confrotational immediately... and honestly probably going against the popular opinion there...
but it doesn't have to be a big deal, just kind of an obvious sign that it's not the right place for you...
i had a bunch of vegetables with a baked potato... so vegetables + a vegetable...
eh i've bought street weed before from dealer's in chinatown who walk by saying shit under their breath about the strains they have when other people have been dry... it's not a permanent solution, but it's usually decent enough 'til you fond a dealer...
and just meet people... even just online in your area who are into drugs and find one like that...
where are you anyway?
my auto-correct is off... this is all my bad typing and my phone is blameless... i'm just out of it from how much drinking and smoking i've done the past few days
i'm also probably one of the only people here who doesn't even know what "desu" means...
+ i also started off my morning knocking a bunch of shit down after i uncovered the birds and getting glass all over my floor... which isn't any fun to clean at 7am with a hangover, so i'm just burnt the fuck out...
at least i have more brandy, wine, and weed...
Well, I don't know how you edited this specifically but you have a nice facial bone structure. It could help you pass if you are definitely trans, but it also reminds me of certain runway models. Irregardless, you have a very interesting look overall; are you mixed race?
I don't understand how you look like a hon, but I get that someone could be self conscious about having wide shoulders. Before I realized I am ftm I felt the same way about how women's clothing fell on my body.
ilu 2 bae
ask for your removed tits, build a tiny boat and set them off to sea followed by a burning arrow, viking funeral style
>mfw mom gets me appointment with her handsome and friendly psychiatrist
>apparently he looks like anderson cooper
i dont need any more hopeless crushes, pls
i'm in minnesota. i'll probably just start frequenting the nearby punk café until people know who i am & start being friendly. i'm not sure how i'll spend decent time in there without my ass hurting because they've got shit chairs, but i have plenty of books to read that others there might have interest in, etc. and of course i could get friendlier with the actual staff as i visit more frequently (there's no way all of them are straightedge).
this honestly is something i could've started doing months ago (though i'd have to be scarce at the end of each month as money gets tight) but i didn't think of it till just now (or if i thought of it before, i totally forgot).
>not sure if throat infection or T starting to kick the shit out of my vocal chords
pls body don't get sick i only just met a cutie grill godammit, let me impress her with Man Voice and not croaking
>rebooted Star Trek show
I almost want the thing but they're going to destroy the thing, aren't they? Why reboot it, the stupid movies already did their own shitty take of that.
Shit, time to nervously google.
i've quit smoking a few times... longest was for about a year ... cigarettes, not weed i'd never quit weed... and after the first 3 days it's significantly easier, that's the worst part of it really...
i just exercise when i want a cigarette to make it easier... it helps keep your mind off of it, and it's beneficial anyway...
Not going to lie, transbro.
Shit's painful and infuriating.
And it's going to be like that for about a week.
I suggest taking up exercise, buying a shitload of chewy sweets and cookies and busying yourself with cleaning your house and finding any and all cigarette and cigar shorts and butts and tossing them.
Then clean the house so it doesn't small like cig smoke
And I don't know if you're comfortable with it but be prepared to start masturbating or fucking a lot. My at the time fuckbuddy threatened to stop letting me dick her because I was getting a bit rapey and stopped using condoms.
Consider talking to your doctor. There is a medication that makes you nauseous when you try to smoke. I need it bad. Been smoking since I was 12. I have been through hellish withdrawals from opiates and benzos but smoking, just can't do it. I never thought myself as an angry or violent person but I'm a fucking monster with cigarette withdrawal. Vaping, patches, nicotine gum does shit for me.
i just watched that movie again today... put it on for the birds cuz they like noise and i knew i wouldn't have to pay attention + beethoven, while i wrote... ended up watching quite a bit of it again though...
i start quitting usually by stopping for 3 days just to see if i can... and i usually end up smoking after and then repeating that bit for a while, but eventually i just stop for really long periods of time... idk for me the worst part of it is that i start feeling like i can't clear my head, and it gives me fucked up anxiety cuz i gotta find something to replace the cigarettes but nothing does for me... but i don't get angry or anything... so idk... i smoke weed and then find shit to distract myself with...
and i try to not hit my worst with it anymore which was lighting cigarettes off of cigarettes, just getting through almost half a pack cuz there's just something about smoking a cigarette that helps me actually think and chill the fuck out in my head...
what do you usually do when you're really pissed off to burn off steam? maybe that'd work for the way you get when you try quitting... or finding something that allows you to let off aggression constructively...
cuz for me i get anxious but like shit that helps me chill out like writing, guitar, meditation, going for a walk, gardening, taking pictures, sex etc ... helps a lot while i'm trying to quit... so maybe it'd work out the same for you if you had a good way to let off steam
start a fight club then quit smoking...
My boyfriend did this bullshit thing where he took up smoking with the idea that he could force me to quit.
I also told myself that I was finally going to quit when I started T, and then I pushed it off until my voice started to change.
That is happening now, and now I just have a dedicated smoking buddy to go outside with me when it is cold and I am never going to quit at this point.
I decided to be happy with cutting back and smoking less.
But best of luck on quitting for good, shit is hard.
I have my second woman stalker of the year (Yes, of the year.) and I've had it up to here with people thinking men are more abusive. Abusive guys I can see coming a mile away and their shit is so banal, I don't have legit nightmares about my bad ex-boyfriends like I do these sick fuck girls and their creepy obsession with comparing everything in their life to rape. I actually was raped, you don't see me doing that shit. Okay rant over.
sometimes i dream of a future where the majority of people actually know how the parts of the world relevant to them actually work rather than myth after myth after myth
maybe once we're all cyborgs and can overcome the worst faults of the human brain
Unrelated to anything going on so far in the thread, but I am really curious.
So I did not have a sex drive at all until I started T.
Meaning that before, my partner and I were pretty physical, but I never got much out of it.
Since then I have gotten a lot... needier, and so we end up being pretty physical about twice on average over a weekend, and I have a long shower after work once a week.
My question is this: My partner jokes about me having an incredibly high libido. But I have no idea what the average is when it comes to these things.
Is that about average? What is normal for a sex drive?
Can anyone else "feel" their erection? It tends to only happen if I'm turned on, but can happen other times as well. I can practically feel where it is, how big it is (it's not very big desu) and it literally never changes size. This has been a thing for me for a long time and only gets increasingly more common. It drives me fucking insane.
sounds low to me, but it's probably more normal really... when things are ideal i'm having sex every day multiple times a day, and then i'll still end up masturbating every day too cuz even that could be more often for me... i also get weird and depressed going more than a couple of days without sex though so yeah...
you probably just had a very low pre-t sex drive so it seems high in comparison...
>sudden dental problems
>examine teeth in mirror
>girl-stache becoming noticable already
>scabs and scars from trichollomania
>due to excessive facial hair
>now breaking teeth too
Feels bad. Moments like this I'm pretty sure these trans-thoughts happen because I'm sick of waking up as this pitiful motherfucker every day.
>scabs and scars from trichollomania
Had to look this up and please don't do this to yourself anon. It'll just make things worse for you in the long run. You don't want to end up bald.
I manage to keep myself from doing it where hair should be, like eyebrows and head hair. That's fine. Instead I pull out hairs from my cheeks, jawline, neck and other places on my body.
MtF here. So this qt FtM I'm interested in just told me today that they're actually non-binary and prefer they/them pronouns. I'm not really sure what to think because they present entirely masculine and have been on T for a while, so I don't think they are a tumblr-tier transtrender or anything.
Well, I wouldn't call they/them made-up. I just want to know if the whole non-binary thing should be a red flag to get the heck out of there if they otherwise seem alright. Or in other words, can non-binary people not be full-on SJW tumblrinas?
you're the one who knows them... what do you think of them? everyone you meet will have thoughts,beliefs,opinions, traits, etc that you don't care for... that doesn't have to define them though... and the odds of every single person who feels that way about pronouns being exactly the same are pretty much nonexistent...
do you them? yes? then who the fuck cares get to know them, and if it doesn't go well cuz you don't like them... well... so what? that shit happens it's part of life... not bothering with someone you already like just cuz of something potentially meaningless is just stupid though...
and no offense but i really can't grasp why you'd need someone else to tell you that...
>insurance doesn't pay for the things i thought it paid for
...fuck me running.
This is gonna get interesting.
Incidentally, it's looking more and more like Humana should be avoided like the plague, if you're shopping for new medical insurance.
Yeah, googling says new series.
I mean, I'm still hesitant to get my hopes up, but I still have some that I cannot quash entirely.
I love my packer
it's so dumb. I never thought I would like it.
when I first got it it was ugly and too pale, but I painted it with makeup pigment left over from the ol' cisgirl days and it looks realistic.
It doens't feel real, but it's weight in my pants is super comforting.
I also think it's really sexy and I feel sexy wearing it.
also, started working out today!
Is that nice? I never felt super dysphoric about /not/ having a weight there myself, so I always wondered if it was worth it.
Also, how does it look in pants, and do you think it helps with passing to have?
Even more alarming because Matt Kailey just died at 60 of sudden heart failure, but as he states he smokes cigarettes in that article.
So I had a thought.
So there is a lot of nonsense going on in the community about "real" trans people.
I am not sure I believe this, but this is an argument I would like to throw out there. Say bio female person decided that she wanted access to the "Male Privilege." And she transitions and goes stealth /purely for that reason/.
Is that really so wrong?
Sure, the argument could be made that she would start to experience dysphoria and it would suck. But assuming either that did not happen or she decided it was a level she could live with, would she not have earned the right to it?
I also mentioned that the person would be stealth, so there is no reason for her to be active in trans politics and potentially misinforming cis people about what trans-ness was.
Especially the hypothetical girl somehow paid for all of this herself, rather than using community resources. I am sure at a certain level of money you can just ask the doctor for what you want.
I am not arguing that this person exits, but if she did, would she really be doing anything wrong?
My heart hasn't stopped pounding for like 2 weeks now. I won't be surprised if I drop dead. Doesn't help that I smoke and have anxiety but sometimes I just can't help but smoke since it oddly enough makes my heart calm the fuck down for a half an hour or so.
Shit sucks so much its hard to sleep because I just feel the pounding.
Yeaaah, I just really hate him and I'm a little tired of doctor-shopping. First time he saw me he straight up said I was probably killing myself by taking T(and its not like i have any previous medical issues that would put me more at risk than anyone else) and for some reason the waiting times to get to a doctor around here take for-fucking-ever.
I can't tell if I'm ever overreacting or just most o f my doctors have been assholes since with this doctor and my previous one both have denied me any sort of testing for any long-term damages for ODing super hard last year besides I had painful muscle spasms/tremors every second for 7 months afterwards and I cannot take ANY medication without it feeling like its messing with either my heart or lungs + it always makes my veins itchly swell up. Plenty of other shit too but man, I give up trying to get a doctor to do anything other than tell me to take an advil.
it's not wrong, people have every right to modify their own bodies as they see fit and do whatever they want... but in that case it isn't a medical condition, and shouldn't be covered by insurance the way trans surgeries and hrt should be when dysphoria is an issue... it's purely elective and technically they wouldn't be trans... just someone with body mods, who's chosen a lifestyle, which is fine but it isn't even kind of the same and that should be acknowledged... someone like the person you described would deserve civility and respect and i'd treat them with such, but i wouldn't think of them as trans if i knew all that cuz i don't believe that someone can be trans with zero dysphoria (and that doesn't mean depression or anxiety etc is required in conjunction with it btw), but calling shit like that "wrong" is a bit on the overly harsh side of things cuz ultimately it doesn't harm anyone...
How do I know if a guy is enjoying having sex with me? I'm really insecure about sexual stuff and I'm worried I'm too passive. I'm submissive but I don't want to be the type to just expect him to do all the work. And I'm worried that he thinks I'm not enjoying myself either...
being submissive doesn't mean someone else is doing all the work you know... and it's not like sex has to just be laying back and getting fucked either... have some fun trying out different positions, in different places... specifically ones that require effort from you both to get into them... and if you're really worried why not discuss some of his fantasies and fetishes and try a bunch out? just experiment with each other and have a good time... or you know try having a conversation about what he likes or wants and do more of that... or you can still be submissive and just take orders from him and take it from there... that can be fun too, letting someone dictate everything and doing it for them... they're in charge and dominant, but you're submissive...
but if you are just gonna lie back bondage is a good option...
It's just really still hard for me to be communicative; I have a lot of complexes.. He has a thing for FTMs, but I'm still worried he doesn't like my "front" bits... I want to let him do anal because I think he'd like it better but at the same time I'm not sure how to prep for it and it's still a little scary for me.
well honestly... hard or not that's kinda just part of a relationship and you gotta push yourself... it's a lot less intimate to talk about fucking than it is to actually have sex with someone anyway... so it's not really a huge deal...
and if he has a thing for transguys then i don't see why you're worried... especially if you're fucking regularly...
i get that you have complexes and shit... i really do, but sometimes you just have to do shit, and sometimes you gotta be logical...
you have insecurities, but they have nothing to do with what he thinks or feels... and you gotta realize that, and if you really need to know to soothe your insecurities (as if the sex wasn't enough of a clue) then you gotta have a conversation
you'll have a better sex life and a better relationship if you work on thatshit, and i imagine you want that so have some uncomfortable for you conversations cuz they're important...
and idk if this makes you feel any better or not... but for me personally... even if someone sucks in bed i can still enjoy fucking them and getting off is still nice so it's not necessarily a huge deal...
you're too worried
Because you think he would like it better is not a good reason to ring up anal honestly. Let him start that conversation, and try to concentrate on your own pleasure.
Any decent top is at least a large part into it to see the other person having a good time.
It's just that, gay men aren't gay because they like vagina... And I really get more from other people getting pleasure I guess.... Being submissive to me means I don't want him to care what I think...
So I've been on T for about three weeks now and my voice has gotten a tiny bit deeper.
Right now my throat is very sore though. Could this still just be my voice, or is it more likely that I'm getting sick?
More directly: when your voice is dropping, does your throat get sore?
protip: wait until you're genuinely horny and then put it on, you'll be too busy wanting to fuck your partner's brains out you won't care
and possibly smoke some weed first, that always helps
>horny as hell
>having sex with a piece of plastic that can't feel anything
yeah that will do the trick
I would always break down in a depressive episode after that because it reminds me how fake and unsatisfying it is.
I'm single now so I don't have to deal with that anymore. Yay..
(not person you were replying to btw)
it's really nice!!
It's barely noticable in pants, desu, but it changes the way I walk a little, and it's nice when I'm carrying something or sitting down to feel it shift against my mons pubis, it makes it feel 'real'
I actually feel like I love it as much as my binder :)
Has anyone used FreeTom prosthetics like this one?
I'm considering getting one because I still feel pretty dysphoric with basic packers like mr limpy.
Same boat as you, man. I'm right about the same timing, and my throat's sore like I have a cold, but my sinuses feel normal. I'm fucked if I know whether it's T or weather, but my voice has incrementally dropped, just a touch. Face's starting to get a little greasier too. I'm bracing for the acne suck.
..yeah I dunno, let's both chug tea with honey in it and hope for the best.
Haha, already on the tea with honey. My face has gotten pretty greasy too; I've been using apricot scrub to help with the acne a bit. It isn't too bad, but I'm used to being 100% acne-free, so it's slightly unfortunate.
It's certainly easier to keep my voice lower though.
jesus christ, T has turned every ftm I know into a fag.
I'm scared guys. I'm gonna go on it but I REALLY REALLY DO NOT want to turn into a cocksucker after getting on T.
Have there been any FtMs that went full straight after T?
>never really liked dudes
>always dated women
>go on T
>still not into dudes
>women are now incredibly annoying and full of drama created out of thin air
I don't know how straight cis dudes do it.
>I used to be a girl
>now they're stupid
I don't get this mentality. When you transition, you're still the same person. The whole "I was chill with women when I was a woman but now I can't stand their bitching and shit since I'm a man now" reeks of trying to validate yourself as a dude. Being a guy doesn't mean you have to be an asshole.
I somehow had no idea he existed at all. What a dumbass name.
I honestly feel bad for anyone that knew me pre-T. I've always been well aware if I was just PMSing or something but its fucking true. All those rapid emotions and being mad/upset/crying at the drop at a hat for no goddamn reason without having a mental disorder. I've had 5 relationships with women that lasted 2-6 years and in the end on my part - I always broke it off because of how draining it was, and I'm not even going to count the mental illness on some of them. I'm so drained these days that I don't even bother. I might as well just wait til some of these ladies age and chill the fuck out after they already chased everyone else away because I am not going through the shitstorms that happen when I can't txt one back within five minutes or stay up until 4am talking on the phone. There is also zero reason why it takes someone a full minute to ask me a simple yes or no question.
Do it, faggot.
>nothing changes when you rewire your hormones
>your perspective and experiences don't change
Shit does change, though. Not for everyone, and some more than others, obviously. Hormones having an effect on your personality is real. I might have been a piece of shit before and am still a piece of shit today, but I either have a better grip of or less emotions today too. Not having to deal with it anymore makes it more noticeable when someone else is doing it.
Whats it like as a FtM that doesn't pass? I'm MtF, my boymode doesn't really pass as a boy, but everyone who I use it around still accepts me as one pretty quickly. I've got a FtM friend though and its apparently hard for people to see him as a guy
They weren't all crazy and I don't think mental illnesses necessarily makes anyone a nightmare(my roommate of 8 years was an unmedded schizo, but still an awesome, functional person and i have no regrets) but the one I was with for far too long should have been institutionalized. I was with her for a year before the crazy started to leak, which was fine. It wasn't great, but everyone has their problems, she was able to acknowledge it and we worked at it when it came up. I don't remember when exactly it hit full force but she turned into a monster. I'm going to try to make it shorter than it can be
>would call me up screaming if i did not reply to her within ten minutes of her sending me a text whether or not it was 2am or at school/work. it was her 'ten minute' rule that i'd only follow if i really wasn't in the mood to listen to her scream about where am i, who am i with, etc
>at some point cut off all her other friends except me, constantly shit talked about them("yeah, but they're not as smart as you." "she really needs to talk to me, but i really don't care whats going on in her life") to me even though i'd call her out on being a shitty friend
>always arguing about when i wanted to hang out with my friends because she didn't like them. when she told me it was either them or her, i chose them and she backed off for awhile
>used her grandfather's sickness/eventual death as leverage for anything i'd call her out on to make herself cry about it
>having to make trips to the ER for her because she started having schizo fits and injuring herself(stabbing herself in the cervix, for example)
>the one time i convinced her to get help, a side effect of the first and only medication she was prescribed gave her a seizure, thus ensuring her family hating me for 'forcing' her and her using it against me forever
Thats only a few I can think up of now. I put my foot down harder and harder, and while she calmed down I was just too drained to deal with her anymore.
Too long to add but by no means do I think that was all because hurrhurr she's a wimmin. No, it was because she was a mentally unhinged, manipulative psycho. All of our mutual friends except one didn't believe me, of course. She was very good at hiding it.
image going out in full girl mode, with painful crushing breastforms, and constant monitering of your body and people still thinking you were a man, and that wearing full woman's clothes and makeup and having a female name were all just things that made you seem 'fashionable'
No, as I mentioned in the post below it because it was too long to include in the initial post. My misogyny renders the stereotypes such as drama that doesn't exist("are you mad at me? are you sure? youre totally mad at me, i know it. i am now upset and/or angry about something you already did everything in your power to reassure me that you are not in fact, angry").
I think my sister and her boyfriend have a good thing going on. She'll just straight up tell him she's angry/upset at him/everything for no reason in particular right now so she's going to avoid him for a little bit, then everything goes back to normal when she's done.
i'm not giving you advice, you huge memetic fart.
I'm stating a FACT. men are sluttier than women, so they are easier to have sex with, and as your sex drive increases, there are more times when a quick lay is a man.
also, anal isn't that big of a deal.
also, are you 15.
I'm not going to change your mind if you're homophobic, I'm just telling you why some bisexual trans men start fucking more men.
Also, fucking women makes me dysphoric :(
everyone has preferences, but your homophobic aids memes make me feel like you're either a troll, or highly unsympathetic and ignorant.
don't be so naiive. Transmen are more susceptible to getting HIV because female genitalia in general is more at risk at receiving STDS.
And this is 4chan, I'm talking harsh. Lighten up.
Constant looking over yourself all day long and adjusting your binder, making sure you walk like a dude, praying to god people just think you're a babyfaced 12 year old who should be playing minecraft at home just to hear that soulcrushing "ma'am" and get the painful realization that yet again despite all best efforts you just look like a fucking dyke
...but anyway, I'm guessing the people you know are bisexual and hormones skew some things.
i'm sorry u can't get laid, but in my opinion, women are terrible to be with as a transman.
well, this might sound sappy, but all my friends say that, after a while of hanging out with trans people, you just see them differently, without any assumptions about them made by their gender, or just widening their scope of undersatnding of what it means to be a woman or a man to fit a wrold where I am a legtiamte man even though I got a pretty bad case of vagina.
if you have good friends who like you for who you are, coming out and not passing doesn't change much.
I don't have many friends who aren't trans tho. I'm sure some different types of ftms have cis friends but I don't.
>in a vidya chat with a bunch of other bi/gay guys
>feel right at fucking home
>joke around and shitpost with them
>really enjoying myself and feel comfortable
>do this for days and days, to weeks
>even have one start spilling his spaghetti to me until I let him down easily
>absorbed in it because of how right it feels
>every single fucking time I get up, my uncomfortable parts move and make me aware that I'm not actually what my brain thinks it is
>reminded that I'm actually completely different from these guys
>I don't have a dick
>I never went through male puberty as a teen
>I can't comprehend their different struggles
>I went through a completely different life than they did
>despite how much they like me, I still can't shake the awful tranny vibes
>and so on
Might an hero, desu.
Nah, having a friend group with multiple pretransitional people does have to open your eyes. You just go with what people tell you when they introduce themselves, no need to make a big deal out of it.
If a busty blonde walked up to me and said, "Hi, I am Steve," I would call him Steve. Unless I had plans to woo this person, what their junk is in comparison to what they ask to be called is of no concern
I apologize, I should have been more clear.
WHen I said busty blonde I meant a female person who put effort into their appearance to look more feminine. Bra, make-up, big hair. I mean an actual real live GIRL.
If someone like that asked to go by male pronouns I am at a point in my life where I would internally call them a snow-flakey-attention-whore, and outwardly respect the gender identity because life is too short for those kinds of arguments.
In real life I am face blind as shit, so if someone is even kind of androgynous I will automatically refer to them as "they" in conversation because I guess wrong all the time. Respecting pronouns is all I have to go by.
i just got banned from /r/ftm for reasons that can be summed up as 'i am suicidally dysphoric and trans reddit is TRIGGERED by that', how do i kill myself to prove them wrong?
if you're gonna kill yourself out of spite pills are the sissy way out that's for sure
>tfw i was just contemplating suicide too but because i was sad and lonely and not because im a fuckup tranny
Yeah I level up by becoming more and more of a festering human garbage hole
>He thinks his male experience will be genuine
Enjoy the coddling m8, I'm sure you'll get so used to it you take it for granted and assume all men get a free pass like you, lmao.
Also, enjoy having a worthless cock.
You underestimate me. I wasn't being sarcastic, I literally get a kick out of seeing how further I can sink as a "human being"
>be me, ftm gay and forever alone
>try online dating, no interested men
>come to terms with being unlovable
>school's halloween party
>no costume to wear
>fuck it, put on a wig and go in old girl clothes
>dodge dick left and right
>3 straight cis guys asking if I'm single
>my mom has been broaching the subject of my transition with other family by saying she has one more thing in common with Cher
aha. Ahaha. Haaaaa. Fuck.
...well, at least it's supportive.
Also I'd be lying if I said that half the appeal of getting on T wasn't so that it could negate the effects of estrogen on my brain, because I'm about 90% sure that's why I became depressed as shit. Estrogen just makes you fucking crazy, man. I have sympathy for people going through that kind of fucking unregulated emotional roller coaster, but I cannot wait to fully get off of it.
My mom has a ton of pictures of me up around the house from when I was younger and some of me in girl mode. I feel way too awful about asking her to take them down. Why does transitioning make me feel so fucking guilty?
That "was" you. Not anymore. If you think it will upset your mom, don't ask. She may never see you as anything but her daughter. It is like her daughter died and now she has a son she doesn't really know.
As much as I want my mom to accept me as her "son", I can't and won't force her, and I feel like making her try to forget the old me is pretty selfish and cruel.
shit are you me.
Everyone on this site has been saying "aww don't worry fellow ftm, there are gay men who will love you even if you do have a vagina" but that has never been my experience. I always get turned down because I got a pussy.
It's so lonely man.
Weird. I've never had an issue. I've got a gay cis ex, two bi cis exes and am now married to another gay ftm. It's probably more to do with either your lack of confidence because you're trans, or meeting shitty people.
Transfag is what I've been calling myself for years. It should definitely be the term.
Idk if it's because of my new meds but I can't really make out what you're saying.
>GP wouldn't prescribe me T
>now on citalopram
Unless you're a troll, in which case, oops? I guess?
idk... i've never had an issue other than guys i'm not interested in wanting to have like serious relationships and shit, and a fair bit of them are gay... and i'm pre-everything and open about that with them and no one has ever been less interested after or disrespectful... i've never even made the first move or had to be the one to start a conversation...
for me it really just kinda has been extremely easy...
honestly the only thing that seems to put people who are interested in me off is me not being a fan of monogamy or single...
confidence doesn't seem to be an actual requirement to get laid...
Whelp, my relationship is over. My boyfriend started dating me before I came out, and we tried to make it work, but in the end he just isn't attracted to men.
I'm honestly questioning if all this is worth it if this is gonna be life for me. Maybe I should just quit while I'm ahead.
just cuz this didn't work out doesn't mean that's your whole life... or that no one else would be better for you... it's sad that it couldn't work, but that doesn't mean you should stop being yourself or doing shit to treat what you've got going on...
dysphoria isn't the better option, especially when you could find someone who's gonna be attracted to you and like you for you
not them, or married... but i've been with my s/o for 11 years, lived together for 10... not planning on going anywhere either...
but if that's something you want i'd honestly suggest living together for a bit if you don't already... you learn a lot about someone once you interact with them in that way
how long have you been together?
and any relationship is just about being open, and committed to making shit work... if you've already been doing that for a while, it's just more of that really...
We've been together two years, and just started living together in student digs, it's nt going too bad so far since we have separate rooms.
It's probably far too early to think of marriage, but the thought sometimes crosses mu mind.
i get that, my s/o and i have been considering marriage for years on/off... pretty much since we first got together... technically we're engaged but idk... we go back and forth with the idea mostly cuz neither of us wants to deal with our families... my family will be fucking annoying and crazy and want to take over and be there (all of them), and his mother is a psycho and him and his siblings were cut off from the rest of their family after their dad died when he was 16 and his bro and sis were 9... and his mother hates me... so it's like i'll have too many people there and most of them i won't want to be around, and he won't have that and it just makes the whole idea awkward... we thought about maybe just one day getting married and not telling anyone though... that's probably what we'd do if we did that...
idk... it's not that important to me though cuz we're together and i just kinda see marriage as a legal thing rather than anything else...
but yeah... i get it being that soon and considering it cuz well... been there
2 years is long enough to have an idea of what you might want in the future though... i've known people who have gotten married after less time together
Maybe it was wrong of me to use "married". We're technically engaged, though neither of us proposed. We already refer to one another as our husband.
Also, to be cliché, marriage is about listening to your partner and working as a team for the best outcome for them. It's important to balance putting yourself and them first.