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would you go on a date with him, /mtfg/?
>looking for phone
>huh its next to my desk thats weir-
>screen is shattered
iktf and I will be feeling it later ;_;
theres literally nothing wrong with being a spider
Sigh, have they gone and turned you Kit?
>laying in bed lurking before sleeping
>see this post
>nearly have a heart attack
>go back to last thread to compare tripcodes
>"o-oh, OK ;_;"
Well played, looks like I won't be falling asleep soon
i got an e-mail back from mau5trap after sending them a demo and they said they want to hear more of my music
i'm so nervous i could die, i'm barely into my transition and i don't know how to dj if i get called to play live or something
should i just ignore the e-mail?
Another birthday come and gone, another year wasted. Ever get the feeling that you're just running nowhere fast?
Just answer it, you baka.
Disregarding how blatantly untrue that is, even if I'm your favorite you could at least spell my name right!! <3
>tfw no uno's deep dish pizza
I'm thinking about driving 8 hours to chitown just to get some of this delicious pizza.
You illiterate retard. "Caddies" is wrong. It should be "Caddy's funnier". As in "Caddy is funnier".
If you really care about someone, you'll use proper grammar when referring to them in text, you dullard.
If you were talking about multiple small containers it would be caddies. When you're using a proper name and shortening "Caddy is" it becomes Caddy's.
Yeah, don't... don't instigate. I'm not prettier or funnier than anyone. It's all preferences and opinions any way.
>One of those pizza's is like 4,990 calories lol.
I think she's pretty. Her speaking voice is fine too.
Having a strong man, behind and over you, laying in bed, doing sex acts. He'll put two of his fingers in your mouth, holding your arm with his other hand, while breathing in your neck and whispering you things.
Not in the proper sense no, but I guess inthe looser, dumber
"anyone that doesnt entirely pass or is older than here" sense, yeah.
A female voice would help her a lot in that regard but I understand the reluctance given her job and stuff
I really like how Genesis P-Orridge presents h/erself. like s/he's basically mtf, but s/he's always just been like "i'm doing my own weird thing over here. I could give a fuck what people think because i've taken enough acid."
I don't know what you mean...
I love that singing voice but it's strange hearing it coming out of her for sure. I feel like I've heard her speaking voice much more feminine but maybe I'm remembering wrong. I never really got into her band but every interview I've seen of her she seems really level headed and like a generally good person.
>tfw no lover
i do tho ! why don't you believe meee ;~;
I know you're not you have too much of a sense of humor to get mad over silly things. Just sone self depreciation against myself.
I am just drinking water after eating five slices of pizza. Watching YouTube videos chillin.
Do you watch a lot of daytime talk shows? I have no clue where you get those gifs at tbqh
did anyone else here read that study suggesting all women are basically bisexual? like its coming from major outlets too not like the fucking new frontiersman or something. kind of makes a lot of this hon stuff seem facile
Is it cheap here compared to other places? I never knew.
>you have too much of a sense of humor to get mad over silly things
OMG you're really sprung aren't you?
Daytime talk shows? What? I don't know what gifs you're referring to but I definitely don't watch talk shows. If you mean the book covers, I just see them and think they make great reaction images.
What's the occasion?
yeah I watched the video and that's what I was referring to. IDK why I thought she sounded different.
It's just a baseless insult.
This is a great way to put it. They're just words that have no meaning except for being derogatory.
I don't think you understand what a hon is.
The term "hon" originated on the 420th chan, in their tranny board, many years ago. Long before legbutts was a thing here. It came about because we'd make fun of people on places such as Susan's Place, Laura's Playground, etc. It was because they were men in dresses, basically, and the way they talked is what brought about the term - i.e. a man in a dress saying "You look great, hon! ;)" to a man in a dress asking if he passes. We made fun of it, because they way they looked, talked, and acted were nothing but a grotesque caricature of what they though a real woman would do.
Here are some examples in this thread of honlike speech - people acting like a ridiculous caricature, rather than acting like real women.
This one is a special case. Delusional - thinks people pass when they very clearly do not - hugboxer.
There are many, many more, but I got lazy. Various indicators include always posting with an anime girl pic, using smileys and such, etc. There are all sorts of reasons I selected these posts as examples.
I'm about to hit the 7 year mark - please for the sake of me and other trannies, try to be more realistic, and less of a caricature. Also please don't take this too personally, I don't want to hurt you, I just want you to improve.
Hey, so suppose I was thinking of transitioning how fuck am I with this jawline?
>trying to explain to me what hon means
Do you know who your talking to anon?
I came up with the hon insult on 420chan years ago and people started using it and making it mean what they want.
A hon is basically any trans mtf that doesn't pass but mostly refers to old mtfs.
You won't know until you try. The sides of the jaw are fine. The middle is the problem, but the rest of your face shows potential. Worst case scenario you can save up and get a chin job after being on hormones for several years. Trust me, you (or anyone) can hide their transition pretty well with enough effort, at least for a while.
>What's the occasion?
end of my current diet which means no more foul tasting shakes, then on saturday I will do a fast like I was doing as part of this diet and then on sunday I'm making a practice christmas turkey so I know what I'm doing for christmas day/
then on monday I'm going back on keto.
OK so I sent a msg to a boy I like asking him how his weekend went ;~~;
UGH idk if that was smart i immediately felt strange about it after i sent it thoo ;_;
nm i'm just nervous rn
i hope you are well.
ANYWAYS there is a lot of construction going on rn in my house and its giving me a headache so i'm going to mosey for a bit
see yall later
How do boobs grow for a mtf on hrt.
Like I got the breast budding.
But they never really hurt.
I mean they always have a slight dull tender feeling.
Usally only if I touch it.
But there is def growth cause I can feel the tissue starting under my arm pits.
But how do they grow?
I can't seem to find anything on the web about it.
Like is it a web of tissues that slowly expands outwards?
Also why do the inside of my breast itch?
I know it's an indicator of growth.
But why do the insides of my breast itch? Sometimes it feels like there are needles in my breast and I have to scratch the shit out of them to relive them.
But what is the science behind why they itch?
the itch isn't coming from dry surface skin, like it literally feels like it's coming from the inside.
Some one please tell me I'm really curious
I mean the one with the dog fetish mtfg picture and a few others. I dont know why but I picture you drinking wine watching daytime judge judy shows lol.
Its ahh a little too early to be talking about my cock isn't it? ;)
Im just kidding I knew what you meant and you're ok I guess...
>Do you know who you are talking to, anon?
Some delusional tranny?
Not to mention, you're posting as "Anonymous" so that's pretty self-explanitory.
>A hon is basically any trans mtf that doesn't pass but mostly refers to old mtfs.
This fits in with what I was saying.
Not to mention, it takes far more than one person to start a meme - not that you even "did it first" (which I know you can't prove). The board culture definition of hon was exactly what I said. It's the meaning most commonly used and understood by the posters of the time.
>Delusional - thinks people pass when they very clearly do not - hugboxer
Isn't hugboxing when you're being nice but don't actually believe what you're saying or is giving any positive opinion about someone hugboxing? Because I might be delusional, sure I can see that, but I actually do think she's pretty.
This all seems really complicated but I hope it's working for you.
As far as the itching goes, stretching skin becomes dry which itches. I don't know the science behind breast growth though. I'm sure someone out there has studied it though.
LOL I HAVE A JOB! I can't just get hammered at noon and watch Judge Judy and Divorce Court all day.
>Its ahh a little too early to be talking about my cock isn't it? ;)
It's like I'm really on OKC!
Hey you were the one asking if I was sprung! Give me a break lol.
Unlike those creeps on okcupid I have a three thread rule before I start getting creepy :^)
>tfw will never watch divorce court all day because caddy is responsible
>This all seems really complicated but I hope it's working for you.
I was 122.9kg this morning, total of 11kg
I want to hit 120 by the time the shakes are over next week, if I am lucky it will be a little bit more but, it puts me roughly where I was last year before everything fell apart.
keto was working well, and I hope it does again.
It's a bad idea yeah.
These archiving sites should be shut down, for like, copright infringement or something, since they're literally stealing the content on 4chan.
4chan was basically made to have the content disappear, having archive sites defeats the whole point of 4chan.
>implying I give a fuck what you think
Read some writing by women, at some point, my good man. You will find none here.
Even if I talk like a big strong autistic man (i.e. basement dwelling fat neckbeard) what you say does nothing to shoot down my point - which is that the people I pointed out (likely includes you, seeing your reaction) talk like a ridiculous caricature of what they think a woman should sound like. No woman talks like that.
Maybe I should listen to you, and dumb down my writing so I sound more like what you think a woman should sound like.
How bad do you feel about missing your youth?
For me, it always stings with sadness when I see any media that is of youths doing youth things.
Yeah. Still on HRT but not transitioning until I feel comfortable doing so
real bad desu senpai
Not even necessarily just being able to experience some kind of normal youth, but how badly it's fucked me up not having that. I don't know how to interact with people or do anything because I spent from 14 onwards sitting in my room trying to forget I exist
I mean, I feel like I won't care that I posted my pictures.
But in the small chance that a couple years down the line someone figures out my online persona, I wouldn't want them to be able to find my posts on mtfg.
so... I don't know I guess. yolo
Someone gave me a really great follow up to use asking about the condoms.
Well I'm glad. Keep going.
I mean, my attitude is, I'm going outside, there are going to be, I don't know, a hundred people that are going to see what I look like so what if it's a thousand or a million? This is what I look like. I have to see people in real life any way so what's the difference if people here around the globe see me?
Yeah it bothers me too. The things I know I'll never ever be able to change bother me the most.
>my heart is running
How else could you be posting?
that's interesting b/c
I'm doing everything but hrt
just gatekeeping myself until I'm certain I'm trans
passing isn't easy and being a fem is a ton of work
I made so many mistakes, and still do forget a thing or two
but you just have to keep trying until that one day you become invisible and no one notices -
it's very anticlimactic
I'm never even sure if I'm binge watching House M.D. for the show, or for Dr. House at this point.
>How old and how long on hormones were you when you made an OkCupid /mtfg/?
mid twenties, 18 months or so idk
>What kinds of replies do you get?
ugly stupid or boring guys; lesbians, married couples who want to have threesomes
>Do you reply to others?
sometimes, most i dont
I wished you asked like an hour ago >.< I'm all settled in for the night now tho.
A little under a year. The first sentence of my profile was a disclaimer I was trans, so I got mostly creepy guys, a fair amount of people calling me jailbait, and one guy who was a total cutie and gentleman. I only sought out a couple guys desu.
I like the badboys tho <3
>go to bed at a reasonable time cause I have to be up at 7 am for work
>wake up bright-eyed and bushy-tailed at 4am cause I'm thirsty
God damn you pizza you've forsaken me with your insanely high sodium levels.
>some people are mad at me for not getting caught with everyone else because I "ditched"
Nah, I'm just someone with a history degree making a joke. Had to use it to write some papers.
maybe?? it depends
I haven't played in a while and I'm still kind of new so I'm not very good ._.
it really depends on genetics, some girls who transition earlier never pass, and some who do it later can- it's different for everybody
you never know until you try though
I don't know if I'm trans anymore. I think I just saw an out for my shit life. A chance to be someone else and I took it. I dont feel like I was completely lying to myself whenever I would go out presenting. I know I wasn't lying to myself when I was sure I had a girls soul. But I'm just dead inside now and more hopeless and alone than I've ever been. I think I'm just going to commit to the boy thing until I eventually kill myself. This life just isn't for me.
I never posted much but see you around mtfg. I'm glad to have known the people here and their lives. I hope you all make it.
"ugly" guys usually make the biggest changes not because they're ugly, but because their generally ugly bc they're unkempt and dont take care of themselves/put no effort into their appearance
and then as they try to present female, they care, and use effort
attractive facial structure is very similar amongst men and women, that being said
if you think you're "too ugly" then dont do it, it's as simple as that; go see a therapist if you're questioning heavily
think about what makes people look ugly in the first place- a lot of the time it's due to having some out of place characteristics of the other sex, at least I know that's how it is with women, so the opposite might apply?
also, you could just imagine that you look worse than you are
I know I did
isn't it all just luck anyway? those that were lucky enough to look like twinks with cute faces pre hrt will have an easier time adjusting. The reason the changes are so drastic is probably due to immense lifestyle changes and having tact in your transition.
Ok, so although I'm still pre hormones, I kind of have bobs, right? But I've ignored them most of the time. And this other day, buying a coat, I come across a Ladies-Large section of a store, with lots of bras. So I guess I checked it out.
Now all these bras are in hangers, and there are no dressing rooms, so I'm guessing I just have to buy it. I already had my measures ready just in case.
>Under bust: 91 cm (35.8 in)
>Bust: 98 cm (38.5 in)
And so following this guide: http://www.sizeguide.net/bra-sizes.html
I get that somehow I'm E80 in Japan size (36D)
Now, that doesn't sound right but I say, hey let's see how it goes, and I buy two of them.
I try them on and I get kind of alarmed by the huge difference they make. They also are kind of empty on the cups.
The next day I buy a D80 to see how it goes, it also is kind of empty.
The next day I go to buy a C80, a B80 and A80 to finally see what's it all about, but there aren't any of those so I settle with sister sizes D75, C75 and B75. I drop the D75 because it's expensive.
So I come back home and they're tight as fuck, so I make an extension out of an old bra that was too big for me anyways.
So now I try on those two, and the C75 seems kind of right. Also, the B75 makes my bobs spill over the top and the sides, so that's that.
But then I find this site:
and trying it again, the C75 seems to spill on the top a bit, at least as far as I can see. The underwire of the E cup feels the best but the whole cup is empty.
I have loads of pictures for every bra I bought, front and 45 degrees, in case you'd like to see.
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do now, or if this bra fits or not.
Pic is C75 without the scoop and swoop method.
This one is the E80 that seemed most comfortable but also empty.
Just look at all that emptiness.
Anyways, I'm struggling because I already spent 8000 yens on about 5 bras and I'm realizing none of them fit and that I also need to buy 3 of my real size once I find them so that I can wear them and wash them accordingly
This is scary, I almost posted your same thoughts a couple days ago. I was drunk however, and I'm still early on with HRT so I want to see where it takes me first. You're in my thoughts, anon. I hope you find something in life worth living for.
i think you need to see a different therapist then
well a big part of bra's fitting is if they feel comfortable.
do they feel comfortable-?
now i have to admit, i generally dont wear a bra bc my chest doesn't warrant it imo
¥8000 is alot to essentially have wasted. there's not way you can return them?
you can try this site
and these calculators
unfortunately I dont really know much at all about foreign bra sizes; so i dont think i can help that much; i think you're be better off asking r/abrathatfits and obviously let them know you're trans lol
HRT kind of takes away all pleasure in having a dick, at least with a lot of transgirls. There's literally no drive, and about as much pleasure in touching it as someone rubbing your forehead.
Well thanks for the links ^^. I had already found r/abrathatfits, but I'm not really good with reddit, I somehow get lost all the time.
I've thought about returning them, but I'm guessing that people would be pretty disgusted by the mere idea of returning a bra here. I've also thought about selling them to a recycle shop, but I have the same doubts.
About the sizes, Japan is just a letter higher (no AA) and 80 is equivalent to 36 in US, and works in spans of 5, so 75 is 34 in US.
Also, do you want to see my bra rotation graph?
I had both fun and stress while making it, because it meant I needed to spend more money.
I worked out the minimum of bras to use for the whole week and wash them and also rotate them so the elastic has a day of rest is 3, and it's like this.
it says 3 bras in rotation for 3 weeks, 7 uses per wash (5 not counting weekends) and 6 days available to hang dry.
any advice about totally plucking facial hair? my pain tolerance has been getting better, and my friend told me that I should just need warm water and a gentle cleanser to start with, but I wanted to ask somebody who might have more hair to pluck about it
so.......if you want to be a girl......why are you asking other people if it's worth it for you to go on hormones?
alll yeah i dont really use reddit to post, just information hunt so i understand that frustration
i mean you should try to return them at least, all they can do is tell you no, right? and if they tell you no, nothing has changed in the present situation, so.....
but yeah i mean i'd go with the one that FEELS most comfortable, bc your breasts right now are closer to "moobs" you know? lol and once you start hormones and your breasts develop further those bra's are gonna be useless anyway lol
as i understand not everyone has genital dysphoria
ha thats very clever
i should make something like that
i only have a few bras at present, but i rarely wear bras so i just wash them whenever i wear them
i should get more though, but eh
exfoliate, use warm water to open your pores
plucking one by one takes time, you may consider using the facial wax strips made for women, which will be a little more painful, but it should be faster than going one by one, obviously
my facial hair's dense enough that it's more like three by three lmao... but if I get my hands on some money I might get wax strips
there IS something deeply satisfying about ripping each one of the freeloading little bastards out of my face by pure force, though
You'll feel a lot different and or confused from that viewpoint after half a year or so on full dose HRT.
They will, but the older you are the less they generally do. If your bones are already fully developed and protrude very strongly then chances are you're going to have a bad time.
I mean, yeah, I might keep the bigger ones in case I get bigger when starting hormones. But at least I'd like to return the small one, and the really big one, haha.
Or even if not returning them. I want money for bras. Maybe I can start asking for a donation somewhere?
And yeah, my bobs are kind of "moobs", but they're kind of getting out of the range a bit.
When I was fatter it wasn't as noticeable, but now I'm kind of skinny (still got skin flab from losing weight fast), but the bobs are getting more noticeable.
I guess have a look at the real thing so tell me what you think.
I just ordered
>Spiractin 100 (Spironolactone)-Spiractin 100 (Spironolactone) 100 Tablets 1 $52.90 $52.90
>Estrofem 2mg-Estrofem 2mg 84 Tablets 1 $60.00 $60.00
from in house pharmacy and will start self medding, was this a good choice?
yah the wax stripes arent too expensive, less that $10 iirc
but until then, exfoliate, warm water, and just suck it up and do it lol
the MOST PAINFUL AREA is right under your nose, so yeah just fyi those are the hardest
after plucking them forawhile they'll seem lighter though so thats nice
do those actually work?
yeah you could try selling the bras you dont want on ebay or something to try and get some money back
they look like moobs that are becoming boobs to me but idk could be gynocomastia too
i wouldnt worry about it that much since you're gonna start hormones and grow /real/ boobs lol so.....
I actually think it's gynecomastia. My mother used to tell me I had it and I didn't listen, because I thought she was bullying me. Turns out she may be right.
You should have seen her face when I told her she was right about that and that I was kind of glad it happened that way.
Anyway, I figured, If I know my size now, it will be easier to buy bras when I start growing, right? Because I'll be able to tell the difference with my current one.
Sometimes you have to be proactive and find other ways of getting a hold of it. Look for resources at a gender clinic or with a lgbt-friendly doctor, use your insurance for appointments with a clinical social worker to get a referral for HRT, ask other transgirls for ways to get your hands on them. It's rough but hang in there.
to be honest if I had the extra money I would be willing to help some people out. its just that theres n good way to do that while making sure the person is authentic.
I mean it's best to start early, but what if they're just being rebellious
Stopping by to stay, don't kill yourselves!
Unless you're a shitposting faggot, anyway.
What is your opinion on my case?
I have my meds available near a 10 minute bike ride. They are estradiol valerate injections (10mg) and Hydroxyprogesterone caproate 125mg. I think it would be once every two weeks, but that's kind of guessing.
I have no expert doctor available without going to tokio, and I don't really have money now. If I self med and also try to check my blood levels, it would be hard because of the japanese terms.
Should I get a part-time job (studying) and go for it? Also, I'm afraid I might get discriminated at school and stuff.
As a person who constantly thinks about killing themselves, I can say this is utterly useless, please give a reason for us to live... don't just use cheerful words.
My reason is simple, I continue to live because I wish to see what happens with my life. Other than that I have nothing.
Insurance is honestly the only way. I'll never understand why people don't go into a job that ensures coverage for their treatments and medications
checked for baphomet
your size will probably change, so i mean
but most likely, your band size will remain the same and your cup size will increase
omg, thank u so much faye~~
1) find an informed consent clinc
2)do you have health insurance? figure out how to get a prescription and have it covered through your insurance; find a doctor, ask the insurance for lists of endocrinologists, call them and ask if they can give you hormones, look up local GPs who are trans friendly and see if they take your insurance
3) go to your local, or closest LGBT clinc and ask for help
4) see if you can find a local trans community or something of that nature
5) get a job/beg/e-work/get money and self-med
perseverance is key, earlier is better, had i the foresight I have now when i was a teenager i would be shorter and far more attractive, but oh well
do what you need to do, so that you can do what you need to do
and getting a blood test and translating the terms isn't easy, but it really isn't THAT hard, lets be honest here.
you have big boobs and look undeniably female dont you though? i mean........even if you didn't "come out" dont most people see you as a woman?
>implying any of those things actually happen
I've been taking these sugar pills for months and nothing. I'm convinced you need to be intersex for hrt to have any kind of noticeable effect.
I guess I'm gonna start working on name change and gender marker stuff soon.
Having second thoughts about Jocelyn even though I've been using the name for a while. When people say Joce it sounds like my dead name and it sucks.
I need opinions.
If you want to be given a reason to live you need to eat picture related, I would suggest watching NGE after consumption.
Marijuana can make the pain go away as well.
/mtfg/ convince me not to buy a bunch more of these, I really want the female raider and vault dweller but what you get is random ;~;
I think you should get off 4chan and focus on your health. Get a blood test every so often with a professional that can ensure you are healthy and your levels are accurate. It's your life and your body that you're changing, and you don't want to end up dead or with poor results because of a complication that was missed along the way.
just tell them to not call you that nickname
find a different nickname or don't use one, because you don't have to have people call you by anything else besides jocelyn
Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of ._.
It's hard to find a professional here, though.
I figured I could technically go for it if I had money, but I don't want to miss anything important because of not knowing how to read medical stuff and miss something important like the above anon said.
My mom is all business, she's extremely stubborn and sort of just throws her entire life into work. Her favorite movies are the princess bride and sixteen candles. Her favorite band is aerosmith.
My sister is four, and she's four. She's four, four, oh and she's four.
I'm not really a fan of any of those options. I would say Jocelyn but if it's close to your deadname than pick something else.
The name I had in mind at first was also too close to my deadname so I'm trying to decide on something else.
>ywn hang out with jormy in her room while she explains all her collections of things to you
man one thing I will say is I had no idea how much I wanted boobs until I started estrogen, they haven't grown since that last pic I posted but what I got so far makes me feel better every time I look at them
I wish I could just be a normal, non-retarded girl
I mean, some people are comfortable with that. I'm not. It's all preference.
Jocelyn wasn't much of a snap decision. It was a name I sat on for a while and it was heavily influenced by other girls I've known named Jocelyn. It seemed like a good call and I really, truly like the name. I just didn't consider being called Joce.
Haha yes clever I was talking about using xanax and vodka to fall asleep
idk I think jocelyn sounds really nice
also I just plan of using my birth name for now but I guess it doesn't really give me any issues and it sounds kinda fem anyway ._.
Aw, thanks Kit! It is a nice name I agree! But it's just a little too similar to my dead name for comfort. Or rather, I'm deciding if it is.
No lolol it's okay it's the first I ever mentioned of disliking the name Josie. There was a girl in my elementary school that floated in and out of my class once or twice throughout the years named Josie. She had aspbergers but instead of being like, quiet and anxious and lonely and anti social like most people with aspbergers unfortunately tend to be, she was just a gigantic cunt to everyone for no reason lol. And she had a lisp and replaced Rs with Ws. It was awful lol
I'd say call in sick, but that would be a little childish+ I don't want to be a bad influence
I LOVE YOU, MAKE IT THROUGH THE DAY OKAY!!??!!?
When r u getting a job u don't hate though? It's almost been a year that you've been there :((
I worry this too
If I can't pass, I'm not sure what I'd do.
>tfw lower body looks GREAT but upper body is FUCKED
I know my shoulders are unfixable but can I fix my ribcage partially with corsets
I've heard of people doing it
Also are shoulder braces a thing that can help? I heard they could.
>be super hon
>mom really wants me to pass or she'll be sad
>pretty much immune to hrt
>face is destroyed from puberty
My only options are massive dysphoria life or suicide, what do?
That's all I really need
My ribcage isn't huge but it isn't tapered that well
I think I've posted a pic before, my torso is okay but kinda boxy
(this is in fact SFW even though the thumbnail doesn't look like it)
I only know you as Jocelyn so I'm sorry but that's the only one that makes sense to me...
Which once I said it it kinda makes sense that my parents had a hard time when I ask them to name me.
No HRT will not shrink your shoulders, make your chest any smaller or give you hips. Ass and bewbs are debatable.
The options that you have is to accept it or be miserable pile of dysphoria your whole life.
It's not that hard to look around and see what women are doing to hide or minimize all the things about your body that you do not like. Because I guarantee you you are not the only one.
how long? because unless it's been close to three years, it's not been a "while" and there's more changes to come as far as fat redistribution.
judging by ur bobs id say uve been on it under a year, maybe 4-8 months?
thank you. i do too! mondays usually are kinda slower, so after yesterday (which was crazy) things should be okay today.
>tfw 22 years old hon
>tfw will never pass and have a social life
fucking end me pllsssss
Brb fapping 2 u
You body doesn't look that bad, and if you consider that eventually your hips will have more fat on them, then your shoulders are especially wide at all
You're really hot btw(no homo)
Also hrt takes years to work not months js
Lol that makes sense though. I guess it's better that you conserve sick days anyway....
Helping you get a job you like is gonna have to be a cool kids 4 lyfe mission or something
I hate to see you unhappy every day!
I started fucking around with gender stuff at 17 and I started on hormone (low dose) at 17.5
I started fulltime HRT at age 18 and then dropped off of it for a while, I'm turning 19 in 4 months and back to being on it, maybe for good this time.
Still can't see shit of your body. Stand straight, camera at a straight angle, and make the camera not cover your body.
What are my options if I fail to pass? Is there an alternative other than killing myself?
Is there a fucking wordfilter on this site >_>
Previous profile pic probably, I didn't check.
Oh I found some other pictures. Not so recent, but the angle is better. It was a diet milestone picture, so I wanted it all scientifically accurate and such.
I forgot that day I was messing up with makeup. Sometimes I just splash some on without much care to experiment. Ignore my face >_>
hahhahha omg i would love a cool kids 4 lyfe mission........ pls find me a job u guys ;(
>I hate to see you unhappy every day!
thanks boo .--. i think one of the problems is that with almost any job im gonna be upset about getting up in the morning to go to it and stuff. which is why i want a job working from home, that isnt camming, lol
im just saying that unless you've been on hrt for a while you have a lot more to go
ive been on hrt for 8 years now and it wasnt until somewhat recently that i started feeling like fat redistribution really finished
Well yeah I guess I got some more to go but consider pic related from a few years ago.
Thanks about the face thing I guess :B
>Not having copious amounts of paranoia and self-doubt about your ability to pass if you start HRT.
Pic related. I'm pretty sure my face and shoulders are going to screw me big time.
thanks, my crush came up with it!
to be fair, it's probably because we dived into pvp when I haven't touched league in months