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What comes after postmodernism?
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Does Sam Hyde have a gf? I wonder what she's like.
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Post-postmodernism.
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Modernism.

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Is this pretentious and convoluted 1000 pages of literary Idiocracy really worth reading? How does it compare to Dostoyevski?
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>>8694364
both are shit, dfw is just the middle class sheltered bitch response.
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IST FUCKING DOSTOEVSKY - SKY, NOT SKI.
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>>8694388
>I'm an american reeeeee

He's Fjodor Dostojewski in the good languages

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>still writing books on moral philosophy

Might as well call it wasting your time.
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>>8693915
You know you can still write about moral philosophy without having to invoke a 'bad' externality.

I.e. killing is bad because it destabalises society and makes it hard for all of us to live well.

inb4 society is a spook

I guess what you could say more accurately is that moral philosophy has now become so intertwined with political philosophy that one can almost never speak about it in isolation.
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>Immanuel "my brain should be the focal point of my portrait" Kant
Congrats you beta roastie faggot, now the most famous picture of you looks like you're about to be strangled by an alpha like me
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Nietzsche would have no issue with books on moral philosophy, as long as they weren't claiming to be objective and had a healthy Wille zur Macht. It would function like a very self-congratulatory autobiography.
>>8693921
That's invoking a bad externality.

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I want to learn Freud, but I don't know where to start. What reading material would you guys suggest for a Freud noob?
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>>8693712
Intro to Psychoanalysis and the New intro to Psychoanalysis
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Zetter's Traum
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>>8693751
is there a chat or something who i can read this with?

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What are the essentials?
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>>8693508
my diary desu
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>>8693508
Philosophy in the Bedroom
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>>8693508

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What is the flaw in pursuing knowledge and logic? It's the most logical thing to live by instead of endlessly philosophically jerking each other?
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>>8693205
>logic is the most valuable pursuit
>t. logic
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>>8693210
>lol you're using logic to validate logic!!
>t. logic

It's impossible to go against logic, and there's nothing wrong with that, if anything it should be motivating to keep searching for answers, we need to find a way out of the CAN'T KNOW NUFFIN hole we've been stuck in for decades
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>>8693205
>>8693228
I hear you my man. I think you might be dealing with the realization that just because something is logical, meaning it follows from given premises, does not necessarily mean it's true. Logic is a tool, not an end in of itself. Most of philosophy has been practiced by men who have reasoned their was to conclusions that were not anchored on something fixed or unchanging, but instead just utilize cursory readings or bias accounts of humanities shortcomings...
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I'm reading Brothers Karamozov for the first time. The Richard Pervear or whatever translation. A couple questions.

What does he mean by "strain"? I couldnt quite pick up the meaning from the context. Best guess have is some type of burden people carry that compels them to do things.

And that poem that Ivan recites to Alyosha. I noticed in another poem earlier that it rhymed, as in the translator decided to reinterpret it to make it rhyme. But when he gives this allegory of the high priest and jesus, it doesnt rhyme at all, its just a story. Did...
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>>8693007
Bump if self bumps work
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>>8693007
Why the fuck are you reading that translation when you have access to the internet? Or did you read the first comments in a goodreads thread and just bought the book?
Read Avsey or McDuff.
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>>8693918
Whats wrong with that translation? I just went by reviews and google yeah. Plus someone here even suggested in a thread. I read Crime and Punishment translated by this guy and it was far easier to read than the Constance one.

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Anyone read this?
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>>8692959
Yeah but I think I skipped the philosophical ideology he wanted to make since all I ever get was whining and how bored he was. Please someone enlighten me
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Yeah I read it
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>>8692959
made me nauseous tbqfhfr senpai desu famalamadingdong

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LET'S SETTLE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL

WHICH ENGLISH WRITER HAS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL STYLE?
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Bellow is the GOAT English prose stylist of the 20th century
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Woolf in The Waves
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Gass in Omensetter's Luck. It's his most accomplished novel, and I will fite Tunnelmemers irl.

How is it that Russia produces so much great literature despite being a shitty place to live
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>>8692671
>said the amerifat
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>>8692671
because being happy and comfortable makes you uninteresting
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Struggle and bitterness are perfect for fueling creativity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl_VvgpwNMw

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>aspie falls in love with a woman he sees once
>Spends months and several pages fantasizing about conversing with her and sperging over painters and shit
>Muh existence sucks
>Finally spots her on the street and follows her
>he drops all of his fucking spaghetti and runs away
>She actually follows him and tells him she's in love too
>40 pages about an immature...
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>>8692658
steppenwolf?
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>>8692658
for a moment i thought you were talking about my diary desu
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>>8692658
Sounds like white nights, except the end

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Are cigarettes and coffee /lit/?
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>>8692027
cigarettes, yes; coffee, no.
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>>8692027
/lit/erally gonna fuck your teeth up
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Addiction aside, they're all about signaling faux maturity.

Yes.

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Trying to build a E book libarary.
http://ebooklibrary23.blogspot.com/2016_11_01_archive.html
first part is spiritual. anybody know any more authors
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Science Fiction E Book Library
http://ebooklibrary23.blogspot.com/2016/11/science-fiction-e-book-library.html
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Esoteric E Book Library
http://ebooklibrary23.blogspot.com/2016/11/esoteric-e-book-library-collection-of.html
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Thank you Anon that was exactly what I was looking for!

Can't help you tho

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Anyone on here doing NaNoWriMo? Any veterans wanna post tips/etc? With enough interest maybe we can get a /general/ going?

>inb4 It's not real writing etc.

Its better than nothing mang
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>>8677281
How, exactly, is NaNoWriMo not considered 'real' writing?

Setting a time limit somehow invalidates the concept of writing?
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I'm gonna do it, though I'm not gonna sign on to anything. Just gonna do my best to write a book, mostly to improve my craft, not because I'm expecting to create a masterpiece.
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>>8677642
convincing people that they should write even if they have nothing to say results in a lot of garbage.

I'm free. Finally.
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Have you even been alone and let out the loudest, longest fart ever?
Then just burst out laughing about it?
Then feel really sad that nobody else was around to experience it with you?
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The only good thing to come out of Dylan was the movie the joker and that chick from lord of the Rings and batman were in.
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i can't be free before i turn off (or better destroy) my computer

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Are there any books written about the Trump phenomenon and the culture which made it possible?

I know it's a little early for an in-depth analysis to emerge, but I'm interested in how he was able to control the media so easily.
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Possibly this one:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28695425-strangers-in-their-own-land

Hadrian reviewed it well and I haven't been disappointed with his stuff yet: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1754011531?book_show_action=false&from_review_page=1
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>>8698065
Anything about populism and a consumerist anti-intellectual culture
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The Decline of the West

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This man has some great prose
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sage errday
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>>8696942
Gustavo Santaloalla?
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>>8696942
He seems like a slightly more-respected Dave Eggers. Although I appreciated his Gaddis essay, it didn't leave me particularly excited about anything else he's written.

I haven't read either of them.

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It's that time of year again. Post what you have read this year. What books did you guys like the most or the least? Any surprises that popped up in the year? Anything you plan on squeezing in the last few weeks of the year? Plans for next year?

This year has been the least culturally diverse for me in a few years. I'm learning French so I have held off from reading French books but asides from that I can't really explain why. I can't say I have a favourite though I did immensely enjoy certain books of poetry by Yeats contained within his collected...
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Uh too much to list so I'd just say best was
>Under the Volcano
>Fear and Trembling
>Ulysses
>Keats
>Yeats
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>>8696877
>The Picture of Dorian Gray
Jesus fucking christ how do people like that thing.
I'm not even talking about the homosexuality, even if that annoys me a whole fucking lot, I'm talking about how Basil is pretty much Common Sense+Obsession, Dorian goes from innocence to 2edgy4me to pussy redemption and Henry essentially built an autistic philosophy around paradoxes, so if you ask him "How to a?" he'll answer "Do the opposite of a to do a".
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Do any of you guys have experience dealing with sudden lack of motivation to read? I've read a huge amount of books this year and it's pretty normal that at points I take a two or three day (sometimes up to a week) long break and then I'm fine to keep reading, but I've been having trouble reading for almost a month.

What is the most /lit/ race, and why is it the Jews?
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>>8696749
Jewish is not a race you b...boob sucker
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>>8696760
>Jewish is not a race

I guess Arabs aren't a race either.
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>>8696778
They aren't, your point?

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I read a fiction book about an unnamed Arab country once. It was about the lives of several women from varying classes of society living under this repressive regime. It was set in this kind of oil boom town. Anybody know what it is?
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1001 Arabian Nights
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>>8696709
No memes please.
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>>8696705
A Tale of Two Cities

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seriosly guys, how is this guy so well known

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcHc54Z_b3w&feature=youtu.be

are you aware of the irony that the more critical you are of capitalism, the more you succeed in capitalism
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He is literally the Kim Kardashian of philosophy.
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his quirky mannerism and coke-energized rants, duh.
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>>8696679
He is a philosopher?
I thought he was the writer of Game of Thrones.

What books are best to read to appreciate Belle Epoque Europe?
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In Search of Lost Time
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>>8696520
Nah, voyage au bout de la nuit is the way to go
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Wittgenstein's Vienna. It is an amazing overview of the times.

Theres also another ones, less accessible tho: Fin-de-siecle Vienna.

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I'm looking for something easy and comfy that I can read between my serious literature.
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>>8696469
John Hawkes - The Beetle Leg
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my diary with all honesty, give me your email and I'll send you a copy
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Haruki Murakami

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IT'S HAPPENING: /n/ VS /lit/

Link to hitbox and all info here:
http://www.implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page
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>>8696432
>second lowest in rankings

shiiet
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wtf is wrong with our keeper
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Start with the greeks with a screamer

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How come sometimes names of things appear like this?

I used to have an edition of Les
Mis that did the same thing with the names of towns
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>>8696412
It's not difficult.
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>>8696412
To make a clear distinction that it is fictional
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It's giving you enough info to know what's going on and to use as a point of reference, but not enough that you could actually look up that specific bridge or street and connect the events of the story to that real-life place. It's basically a reminder that this is a work of fiction. `

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What do you guys do when you come across a word you don't know?

How do you expand your vocabulary?

I'm asking because I just lost my electronic dictionary, and I'm a little bummed
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hey....... that's my dictioanary!!!!!
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Step one is getting a good dictionary

http://jsomers.net/blog/dictionary
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>>8696409
I highlight it on my kindle and learn the definition. It sinks in if the word is useful to me. If it isn't I forget about it, lest I become a pseud.

what are some good metaphors in poems that would impress girls? like comparing them to fire in a positive way, has that ever been done before?
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>>8696384
nope never been done before.
go for it OP
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>>8696384
Compare them to a summer's day... Except blow it up, tell them they are more lovely, and more temperate. Never been done before, 200% chance to get you laid. You're welcome.
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>>8696384
She was hot like dry ice, and wet too

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What's the best novel about amphibian conflicts?
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>>8696340
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Novelization of It Ain't Me

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Give me beach horror.
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Oh, Whistle and I'll Come to You, My Lad
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This is up my alley. Tell me more.
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>>8696326
My diary desu

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Are there any young (under 30) authors worth reading?
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>>8696317
Unless you want slightly obscure trendy wank, no.
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>>8696317
You mean like books written when the author was under 30, or contemporary novels by people who are under 30 today?

My Diary Desu
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my dick is under 30 inches, barely.


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