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What obscure but good book should I recommend to a lit girl I want to impress?

I know she likes Dostoevsky, One Hundred Years of Solitude, Where the Red Fern Grows, Anna Karenina, and Thomas Hardy.
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http://www.salon.com/1999/04/12/wallace/

Off that list I’ve read Omensetter’s Luck and Wittgenstein’s Mistress and both fit your need perfectly.
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force it in her butt. she'll thank you later.
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>>8827668
>girl I want to impress?
Recommend her your dick.

>On November 4, 1995, he committed suicide, throwing himself from the window of his apartment
So is this how to create the body without organs?
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What is your thread about, op?
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>>8827575
It's about a charlatan who read a charlatan and copy-pasted a quote from his wikipedia page with a reference to his shitty concept in order to give the appearance to strangers on the internet that he is an intellectual.
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>>8827582
you have some serious fucking problems

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Is their anything to be gained by reading news publications?

I started following the news more closely about a year ago and I find it cuts into my reading time significantly.

Now I find it difficult to resist reading multiple articles a day to keep up with world events. Like a novel, I feel a need to know what happens next. Especially in case I end up discussing events or debating politics with others.

The information in most of them becomes void the next day, week or month. Assuming it was remotely truthful in the first place.

Have any of you effectively...
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>>8827262
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>>8827262
IRL is a postcyberpunk pomo disaster narrative that's way better than anything on TV. You got NEET nazis, demented tech oligarchs, messianic transhumanism, Deep state infighting, conspiracies galore, Jihadists, recursive simulacra, Paranoia, those wacky Russians, technokapital wrecking the human, impending ecological collapse, pharmacological mass control, and lots of other Cool Shit.
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>>8827262
Has reading the news ever made you better? Has it ever taught you virtue? Has it ever made you happy?
I stopped reading the news because I felt it was making me unhappy, it was wasting my time and on top of it all, I felt like it was actually making me worse.
Do what's right for you - don't fall for the "you have to read the news to be an informed citizen" nonsense. Nobody else is looking out for your health, especially not that of your inner being, which means (in my opinion) that you owe...
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Say whatever you want to say guys, but I just order this book.
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>>8827249
Just read the navidson parts. Believe me, itll be much more enjoyable.
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>>8827249
Skip everything that involves Johnny asides from the intro. I'm not kidding. It doesn't add a single fucking iota of quality or meaning to the book, it's just shitty forced-postmodern garbage.

The main body of the text is pretty great though
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>>8827283
>>8827359
Don't listen to these idiots OP.
Buying it's the best choice. Any copy you might manage to find at a library will look like it's been dragged to hell and back.

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>1933-2016

holy shit, hold me bros
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has old cob-corned corncob mccobthy finally kicked the bucket?

will we finally be rid of this hack's corncob chronicles?
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if only
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>>8827003
could this year get any worse. RIP

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Is this book any good?
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>>8826952
i also want to know
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guys

do you think we'll ever find out if this book is good

i hope we do
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The opening letter is the best part, would recommend. Otherwise, it's a decent read. All the advice you'd get in it is common these days (although labeled as cynical) so that's not really a reason to read it. If you like books like the book of five rings then you'd like the prince

Which authors should one have read if they want to appear posh? I'm asking for a friend.
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Virginia Woolf or James Joyce. Even Nabokov and John Williams for some more contemporary but still stylish prose. A default answer would be Henry James but most if not all of his books are awful.
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>>8826802
My diary desu
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>>8826848
Post an entry, then

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what is this look trying to convey?
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>>8826578
discernible talent.
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>>8826584
i don't see it.
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>>8826588
Exactly.

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ITT: God tier books
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Slobo mi te volimo
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Both great fantasy picks, keep it up
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Milosevic did nothing wrong

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Share you contrarian literary opinions
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John Keats was technically proficient but ultimately unoriginal and a minor poet at best.
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/lit/ is the worst board on 4chan
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Scifi is degenerate

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How do I write a compelling monologue? How about a sequence of monologues within a story?
What are some key elements, tricks for keeping it interesting, etc?

Basically, I'm experimenting with different ways of revealing character/story that don't rely on an authorial presence or setting descriptions. I do explicit scene-telling pretty well, and want to try out something more oblique.

I've read a decent amount of Delillo, who's monologue-heavy. I also hear Beckett is a good resource although I haven't read much of him yet. Any...
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I despise speech-giving characters in fiction. It seems so lazy and sloppy to just have the character open their mouth and say what the author wants to get across.

Not only that, but it seems like a fundamental misunderstanding of the novel, depending on the purpose. You're not writing an essay. You're not out to prove a thesis.
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>>8826147
That's fair. I'm doing this in some short stories for the record. I don't think I'd be able to stomach too many monologues in a full-length novel.

My intention with them is not to explain what I want to get across, but to open up something more oblique and buried-down that would come from a character rambling. I'm looking to expose more uncertainty rather than offer a "To Be or Not To Be"-type-conclusion.
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>>8826176
but I also don't want to just use them to fill up space. Hence the question about finding guides for techniques, or just other prominent examples in fiction.

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Any /lit/ self-proclaimed writers out there?
Care to give some tips to a beginner? (pic unrelated)
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What do you want to write? I'd start by reading a manual of style relevant to your field.
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Yeah, I'm a writer. Sounds daft, but I would insist that you read a lot of books. I've met too many writers that don't read jack. Read a lot, and write a lot.
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>beginner advice

first, just write. don't get hung up on anything. just write a ton of stories/poems/whatever it is you want to write and get a feel for what it's like, the process, without regard for consistency or completeness. it won't matter if it's publishable or not to begin with.

then, when you're aware of the process, read. compare. learn to appreciate the nuances/cadences/stylistic choices that different writers use. think about your own work and figure out ways in which you can improve it. what aspects...
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>Don Quixote. A cruel and crude old book
>The Brothers Karamazov. Dislike it intensely
>Faulkner, William. Dislike him.
>Wells, H. G. A great artist

Why does anyone respect him?
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Because he actually had the faculties to back up hot opinions like that
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>>8825827
Eh, his opinions on Don Quixote are pretty complex.

As for Dost., Faulkner, and Wells, those are all pretty consistent with his aesthete taste I'd say.

Besides, I refuse to believe anyone who says they like 'all the classics' isn't lying.
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idk about anyone else but personally i respect him for the quality of the literature he wrote, not for his opinions on other literature i like

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itt Impopular opinions.

>"Geralt of Rivia" saga is better than "A Song of Ice and Fire".
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>>8825760
Never heard of it. Tell me more
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>>8825760
Well, it's true. Though it's not really tough competition.
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>>8825766
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Witcher

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Your favorite religious poet/poem?

Preferably in English, preferably specifically Christian.
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>>8825746
Ash Wednesday
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Batter my heart, three-person'd God, for you
As yet but knock, breathe, shine, and seek to mend;
That I may rise and stand, o'erthrow me, and bend
Your force to break, blow, burn, and make me new.
I, like an usurp'd town to another due,
Labor to admit you, but oh, to no end;
Reason, your viceroy in me, me should defend,
But is captiv'd, and proves weak or untrue.
Yet dearly I love you, and would be lov'd fain,
But am betroth'd unto your enemy;
Divorce me, untie or break that knot again,
Take me to you, imprison me,...
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Throughout history, why has the structure of storytelling been so linear?
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>>8825714
Because thats the best way
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>>8825714
Because any other way is pretentious bullshit.
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Like The Odyssey?

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How long will it take for mainstream literature and the publications that review them to respond to the fact that multiculturalism and neoliberalism didn't work and everyone now sees they are failures?

All across the west people are rejecting multiculturalism/neoliberalism and are turning to right-wing populist parties and politicians who are anti-immigrant and anti-globalization. People have completely stopped caring about Lena Dunham and all the other people like her in various spheres and most westerners are sick of neoliberal elites dictating that we need more...
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>>8825707
>any ideology
>working
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>>8825707
Prove to me Multiculturalism doesnt work

Prove to me Neoliberalism doesnt work
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>>8825715
neoliberalism promotes fragile forms of government, which are vulnerable to populism and fascism

I'm in love, what should be read to ride this wave?
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You're in love, OK. But is it reciprocal?
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>>8825489
yah
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>>8825495
Then I don't know the feel. Can't help you senpai.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_2IwfWGs-Y
>"There is a lot of violence and sex...and it's trying to be postmodern, but it totally fails because it doesn't develop the characters."
was he right?
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>>8825467
yeah the characters seriously sucked.
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>>8825467
>violence and sex
lit is a christian board
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>>8825467

This novel doesn't give a fuck about individual characters. The collection of humanity within this novel forms it's own character. It's about much more than just 1 or 2 people. It's fuckin genius m8.

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>Karl is the mysterious guardian angel of Homer. Very little is known of his prior life, yet establishes himself very early as a confident mentor who seemingly dedicates himself to the growth of Homer’s abilities and confidence. Karl is one of the very few citizens of Springfield who emits such a powerful ‘purity’. However, beyond his life with Homer almost nothing is known, except that he lives alone. Karl truly is one of the most special people of Springfield; Karl’s strange fixation and diehard dedication creates an oddity of a person.
Which...
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He's the "guardian angel" kind of character.
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Who is he?
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Karl is gay

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>not having your entire collection franklin library leatherbounds
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>killing cows so your books look pretty

That's mean.
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>>8825426
So, you want a library consisting of less than 782 books printed between 1973-2000, all public domain classic books? Doesn't that seem a bit limited?
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>>8825426
I'd rather have a mix of fine presses. Easton Press, Folio Society, Limited Editions Club, Franklin Library, etc.

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Just finished reading In the Miso Soup by Murakami. Hoping someone can point me in the right direction. I've read Audition and Almost Transparent Blue by him as well.
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i also liked that book
no recommendations
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Coin Locker Babies? I haven't read it but it always looked pret cool.
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Are you asking for what you should read next by him or for something similar to him?

If the former, >>8826004 is a good book of his that has a similar feel to ITMS. For the latter, it would help to know more of what you like about his stuff.

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Is the bible a meme or is it worth actually reading?

Will it give me a reason to live? Is Jesus the ideal of which we should all strive to be in this desolate chaotic warped world we are unfortunately trapped in?
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well, if you are a believer, then you should read it so you can sense how much it s a waste of time
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if you were never indoctrinated as a child it won't make you properly believe in god but it's worth a read as a piece of literature.
don't expect it to change your life unless you're existentially desperate enough to successfully lie to yourself.
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>>8825351
it's pretty interesting from a literary/historical standpoint but don't expect some life-changing experience. jesus offering each individual christian personal enlightenment is just marketing spin invented fairly recently by protestants.

the old testament is mostly a bunch of jewish tribesmen slaughtering people and inventing dumb laws to differentiate themselves from their vastly more powerful neighbors. there's fun bits about rape and murder and political analogies involving sluts that love...
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does it get any better?
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And it's hilarious.
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>>8825332
ye
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>>8825341
>>8825343
hivemind

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https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/dec/10/slavoj-zizek-we-are-all-basically-evil-egotistical-disgusting?CMP=share_btn_fb

>We are all basically evil, egotistical, disgusting. Take torture, for instance. I am a realist. If I had a daughter and someone kidnapped her, and I found a friend of the kidnapper, I cannot say I wouldn’t torture that guy.

>I’m not a good father. There is something ridiculous in asserting my dignity which I resist automatically. My teenage son identifies with this undermining...
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>>8825327

Zizek is a mess.

Good to see him triggering those (Classical) Liberal Guardian commenters though,
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>>8825327

>When he was 14, I was mad at him and used a vulgar expression in Slovenian: “Let the dog fuck your mother.” He replied: “That already happened 15 years ago. That’s how I was born.”

>Tfw you will never get BTFO this hard by your own son
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>>8825337

>Good to see him triggering those (Classical) Liberal Guardian commenters though

He knows what he's doing.

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Hardest book you've ever read. Go.
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your diary desu
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That wasn't the hardest, I lot of lot of fun with Wake

In Search of Lost Time was fucking exhausting though
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>>8825279
Ill take that as a compliment

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why don't I like plato? where am i supposed to even start?
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>>8825253
Well, he isn't right about a lot, so it gets tedious reading
Move on to Epicurus
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>>8825697
plen detected
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The works are usually grouped into Early (sometimes by some into Transitional), Middle, and Late period.[84][85] This choice to group chronologically is thought worthy of criticism by some (Cooper et al),[86] given that it's recognised that there is no absolute agreement as to the true chronologicity, since the facts of the temporal order of writing are not confidently ascertained.[87]
Early: Apology (of Socrates), Charmides, Crito, Euthyphro, Gorgias, (Lesser) Hippias (minor), (Greater) Hippias (major), Ion,...
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Just a reminder that no work released in the last 50 years in the English Language has managed to beat this translated lolige
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>>8825195
can you elaborate
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That's because anime and memes are the true art of our era.
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>>8825195
Get back to /vn/ you dumb shitposting faggot

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>she sorts her books by color
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>>8825094
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>>8825094
https://youtu.be/ii6lk9QcW_Q
What did she mean by this?
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I have never seen a guy do this

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What am I in for?
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>>8824993

it is very boring until it gets explosively good.
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Comfy murders
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You'll be in for a wild ride.


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