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Story time, /lit!/
Normally I write for money, but this one is for you guys... I've got an agent ect but this one just fell out tonight and I thought of you idiots.

It's a reflection on about a decade of visiting one of the most dangerous cities in asia. Read it and tell me how crap I am.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sekPVKGLzL3qRYYpziiiDeWlbKawtDUEeD9tICgmh2M/edit?usp=sharing
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>>8685900
Can you give your agent my manuscript?
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>>8685900
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sekPVKGLzL3qRYYpziiiDeWlbKawtDUEeD9tICgmh2M/edit?usp=sharing
>Sihanoukville
>dangerous
I take it you never hopped the border to Laos
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>>8685900

Can you give your agent my manuscript, too, desu?

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A-am I an edgelord?
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>>8685898
Yes, also an autist and a fucking pleb
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>>8685898
suicide is always an option
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>>8685923
But I'm scared...

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Good evening my fellow bibliophiles. Could anyone recommend a good read for me?
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Sure, we have a whole sticky just for faggots like you
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>>8685531
Watership Down
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>>8685538
Don't want shit like 'the great gatsby' or 'the kite runner'

Commercial books are usually rather dull. You won't find a Bukowski in a top 100 books to read.

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Did Socrates even try to defend himself about his 'first accusers'? I'm pretty sure he just called them liars and moved onto Meletus and the other two.

No wonder he died, he pretty much fucked himself with his laziness.
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>>8685495
REALLY MAKES YOU THINK LONG AND HARD, THANKS FOR POSTING
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Can you even read?
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>>8685495
> The Republic (Of Trolls)

>The Republic is Plato’s lulziest and most dramatic copypasta depicting the classical ideal of win.

>The lulz started when Socrates went to the city to ask people a bunch of stupid questions about justice and virtue. He was stopped by some sophists who were aware of what a successful troll Socrates was and demanded to witness his science. When Socrates asked them what justice is, they said justice...
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>tfw all creation is nothing but mind products to keep organic life going

why do we think humans are better than animals? we need a whole mumble of collective nonsense in order to do what animals just do spontaneously and without the risk of error.
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>>8685472
wtf i hate life now

#colormeredpilled
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>>8685472
Who is stopping you from living among the cows?

(pro tip: an edgy poetic response would be "le sigh... I already do")
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>why do we think humans are better than animals?

Why do we think cars are better than wheelbarrows?

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I would like to spend more time reading, but I'm lazy as fuck and I spend too much time playing video games and shit. How do I fucking buckle down and read something of substance?
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Movement, I recommended this in other threads to anon's because I read business psychology. Literally moving your body to another place like the library or a nice chair and starting to read can quickly make it a habit. As for 'I don't want to's' or 'not now's' you just have to keep removing excuses.
>no time
do it for 3 mins
>not here
find somewhere
>but reading is boring
find a book you actually care about
>it...
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>>8685235
Start simple... Try The Pearl by John Steinbeck. Its only about 100 pages.
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I have overcome your problem and feel somewhat qualified to give advice, but before that I need to ask this question: Do you want to read? or do you want to want to read? I suppose another way of expressing this is asking why you want to read?

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I love all the knowledge I gained from reading, but I find reading extremely excruciating. I love the revelation I make to myself when I write, but I find writing extremely time taking and exhausting. What should I do.
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kill yourself, of course
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Are you bipolar?
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>>8685237
I'm a bit adhd if that means aything.

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Opinions?
I saw a thread on here once that highlighted a disdain for it from a lot of people on here.
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>>8685068
What is it, retard?
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>>8685077
Its a YouTube channel that does 10-15 minute highlight videos, ranging on various topics like philosophy, history, and politics.


I've watched all their YouTube videos on philosophers, they're extremely good gloss-overs of great subjects.
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>>8685082
>they're extremely good gloss-overs of great subjects
There is no such thing s a good gloss-over of philosophy.

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How do you people read so fast?

I can't read outside my house, since I feel extremely uncomfortable with people peeking over my shoulder or looking at my book cover of 120 days of sodom and I can't concentrate with all the hussle and bussle and constant changing of vehicle and catching bus's etc., so I read all my time at home which makes the process of reading very slow
To give you an idea of my speed, The Plague took me nearly a month to read
And here people say that they read two doorholders a week
Explain yourselves
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>>8684974
Funny, for me it's the other way around. I only get most of my reading done in public transport because there's too much shit distracting me at home. The majority of people doesn't really care what you're reading.
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>>8684974
Read for an hour before you go to bed, and in the morning after your coffee
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>>8684974
>120 days of sodom
Perhaps you should try reading something else then.

Post a random or a carefully chosen sentence or two, idc, from a book, others guess the book.
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>It was a dark and a stormy night.
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(short story)

His soul swooned slowly as he heard the snow falling faintly through the universe and faintly falling, like the descent of their last end, upon all the living and The Dead.
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>>8684973
", she said"

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Is there literary value to sports entertainment? Could you consider it performance art in a sense?
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yes. read barthes' essay on professional wrestling
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Professional wrestling is the quintessential American art form
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>>8684907
heh, i liked his idea of wrestling being a modern form of greek theatre.

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Recommend me the most misogynistic books you know.
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my diary, tbqh
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The Holy Bible.
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>>8684868
Ask the frog people on /r9k/

Sex and Character
My Twisted World
'On Women'

Now back to sluthate

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How did you feel reading Oxen of the Sun from Ulysses for the first time?
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>>8684853
Can you post some choice excerpts?
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he would rear up on his hind quarters to show their ladyships a mystery and roar and bellow out of him in bull's language and they all after him. Ay, says another, and so pampered was he that he would suffer nought to grow in all the land but green grass for himself (for that was the only colour to his mind) and there was a board put up on a hillock in the middle of the island with a printed notice, saying: By the lord Harry green is the grass that grows on the ground. And, says Mr Dixon, if ever he got scent of a cattleraider in Roscommon or the wilds of Connemara or a husbandman in Sligo that was sowing as much as a handful of mustard or a bag of rapeseed out he run amok over half the countryside rooting up with his horns whatever was planted and all by lord Harry's orders. There was bad blood between them at first, says Mr Vincent, and the lord Harry called farmer Nicholas all the old Nicks in the world and an old whoremaster that kept seven trulls in his house and I'll meddle in his matters, says he. I'll make that animal smell hell, says he, with the help of that good pizzle my father left me. But one evening, says Mr Dixon, when the lord Harry was cleaning his royal pelt to go to dinner after winning a boatrace (he had spade oars for himself but the first rule of the course was that the others were to row with pitchforks) he discovered in himself a wonderful likeness to a bull and on picking up a blackthumbed chapbook that he kept in the pantry he found sure enough that he was a lefthanded descendant of the famous champion bull of the Romans, Bos Bovum, which is good bog Latin for boss of the show. After that, says Mr Vincent, the lord Harry put his head into a cow's drinking trough in the presence of all his courtiers and pulling it out again told them all his new name. Then, with the water running off him, he got into an old smock and skirt that had belonged to his grandmother and bought a grammar of the bull's language to study but he could never learn a word of it except the first personal pronoun which he copied out big and got off by heart and if ever he went out for a walk he filled his pockets with chalk to write it up on what took his fancy, the side of a rock or a teahouse table or a bale of cotton or a corkfloat. In short he and the bull of Ireland were soon as fast friends as an arse and a shirt. They were, says Mr Stephen, and the end was that the men of the island, seeing no help was toward as the ungrate women were all of one mind, made a wherry raft, loaded themselves and their bundles of chattels on shipboard, set all masts erect, manned the yards, sprang their luff, heaved to, spread three sheets in the wind, put her head between wind and water, weighed anchor, ported her helm, ran up the jolly Roger, gave three times three, let the bullgine run, pushed off in their bumboat and put to sea to recover the main of America. Which was the occasion, says Mr Vincent, of the composing by a boatswain of that rollicking chanty
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>>8684853
Something like: wtfamireading.jpg

The first part isn't *impossible* to read (I chuckled at the pastiche of Mallory), but by the time I got to Joyce's imaginary future English I couldn't understand a single word.

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Time to be honest /lit/, do any of you read YA books and do you enjoy them?
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>>8684820
Why waste my time?
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Of course not, I'm a grown-up.
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>>8685012
Why do you think it's a waste of time?

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how do I get this beautiful purple Nabokov-teir prose?

I want to impress my friends and professors and make them feel overwhelmed and inferior to me.
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lol "teir"
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>>8684797
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>>8684801
tire* srry

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I want long, comfy books. is pic related like that? any other recommendations?
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>>8684560
Also try Lonesome Dove and John Jakes North and South series, both massive 70s melodrama tier.
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Moby-Dick
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>>8684567
I dont think you understand the meaning of the term "comfy"

This is the comfy version of Moby Dick

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This guy was retarded and Infinite Jest is fucking garbage.
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>>8684552
Even though this is poor bait in general, I agree. When your general audience is under 25 and shares a love for American Psycho and before that Chuck Paluhniuk you know that you have an image problem. Probably why he killed himself desu.
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>>8684552
Is that a tin foil hat?
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>>8684552
I don't like him and I disagree. Even though he wasn't nearly as smart as he wanted his fans to think he was, that doesn't make him stupid.

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Me and a couple of friends I met on /lit/ through a joint logic study group have noticed this habbit exist among people other than us too.

A lot of us (or atleast a non-insignificant number) seem to be lurking /lit/ for philosophy threads in particular, with little interest in most "literature".

I'm not sure about the others but our group here is mainly interested in logic and analytic philosophy (or, the philosophy done by most philosophers generally considered to be "analytic philosophers", I'm sure you get what I mean, let's...
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So you're autistic enough to hobby-study logic, but not autistic enough to stick to non-fiction, and yet again autistic enough to want fiction based on the fact that it would appeal to you as someone characterised by those interests? That's a rather narrow and zig-zag bandwidth
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>>8684535
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>>8684535

Fictional works by philosophers might be a good place to start. I particularly liked Satre's No Exit.

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I just received this book for my birthday. First gripe is that its a translation from english but it was from a cute 20yo girl I study with, not too bothered. Is it any good? comparable works from others? should I thank her or leave her? would it be better for me to use it as a mean of household heating in this upcoming cold winter?
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Stoner is good and incidentally somewhat of a meme on /lit/. Read it.
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Stoner is top tier shit. if qt gave this to you you should be over the fucking moon. good taste. Imagine if she'd given you John Green or some shit like that. be grateful fratello
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>>8684486
This desu
Stoner is amazing, and its meme status here shan't make you think that it has little merit. You should make her your gf.

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>Wallace took a key out of his pocket and showed me into a tiny apartment of two rooms… The youths followed him, each of them wrapped in a burnous that hid his face. Then the guide left us and David sent me into the further room with little Mohammed and shut himself up in the other with the other boy. Every time since then that I have sought after pleasure, it is the memory of that night I have pursued. […] My joy was unbounded, and I cannot imagine it greater, even if love had been added.
>How should there have been...
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>>8684418

that's andre gide and wilde hahahahhahahahahh
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>>8684418
kudos to the superior officer which came up with todays meme itinerary
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>>8684418

>tfw a grown man actually let himself succumb to these desires and commited these acts and would willingly do so again and even bragged about it, all while having a wife

Kek, Im in disbelief at some people, it's like fapping to traps, if you hope to be a morally stable person why do it

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>We'll guess the book it came from.

Mine: ‘four legs good, two legs bad’
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"Waking up to a loud crash rarely means something good is happening. It’s never “CRASH! Mom made pancakes!” or “CRASH! We decided to adopt a Golden Retriever!”
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Is /lit/ officially a meme board now?
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There was only one enemy remaining; two if you counted God.

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>tfw the next day I realised I fucked up big time by putting that "I like Literature but not as a hobby but as a way to self improve myself"

Holy fuck I'm cringing. He's going to ask about literature isn't he. Oh fuck
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could you be a bit more vague please? your post is kinda easy to understand.
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>>8684384
That's not cringey OP don't worry yourself. Is it possible to improve oneself with literature? If your answer to this is yes than you have nothing to cringe over
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>>8684384
who's he?

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>"I did, however, pass by one young girl, and she was like a goddess who came down from heaven. She was walking alone, in her bathing suit, with her luscious blonde hair blowing in the wind. I couldn’t help but slyly admire her beauty as we passed by each other. I was scared. I was scared that she might view me as nothing but an inferior insect who’s presence ruins her atmosphere. Her beauty was intoxicating! And then, just as we passed each other, she actually looked at me. She looked at me and smiled. Most girls never even deigned to look at...
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>>8684274
>I had never felt so euphoric in my life.
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source, fag
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>>8684281
nvm

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How do you deal with the feeling when you read a philosopher and he writes exactly what you've been thinking yourself and it feels like he stole your shit.
Sometimes they write much better than I ever could, this makes me angry.
I was reading after virtue when this most recently happened.
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>>8684220
dumb weeb
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it's because you are a product of the culture which that philosopher helped to create

you thought what you thought only because some guys had thought it long before you were born and they wrote some works and those works affected countless writers and artists and then you were born and read/watched/listened to something which was affected by the great thinkers of the past and it led to you developing the same ideas, and then, when you actually read their works you feel like it was they who stole your shit when it was they who made it possible for you to have those...
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>>8684224
Congratulations on being wrong about two things in exactly two words. I have the awards right here.

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Has anyone here done a Library Sciences degree? I'm seriously considering it, but not sure if it would have any value. Anyone's feedback would be much appreciated, thank you :)
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Honestly if you want to work in a library, most don't even require qualifications like that; better to do something else that you're really into and if its really necessary get some sort of post grad diploma in librarianship. Most catalogue work is outsourced and most circulation stuff is online. It'll probably be obsolete soon. I haven't done a course, but I do work in a library.
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>>8684218
Don't get a degree just because you like an subject. This might not pay your debt back.

Haven't you checked your needed qualifications for the field you want to work? Do you have to have a degree? If not, don't waste your time and money. You can easily learn the stuff on your own at home for free thanks to free lecture notes form multiple universities.

Also, does you field have a realistic future? Check out other similiar fields which might be a better investment.

Don't romantize...
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>>8684235
okay thank you!

>>8684248
Excuse the hyperbole, but I'd rather get a small amount of debt (it's not too intense where I live), than study something boring that leads to a job I hate, and kill myself at thirty.
The needed qualifications for the field I'd ideally be working in include some sort of library sciences degree, but I'll go to university regardless of whether I do settle on this or not. I don't imagine that working in a...
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Why are this man's ideas so misunderstood by normies?
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You don't understand Nietzsche
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It's not normies who misunderstand him, because normies don't read any philosophy.

Actual readers misunderstand him because they believe him to be a prescriptive philosopher rather than a descriptive one. Just because he wrote about society doesn't mean he was actively attempting to reform society through a set of followers and disciples.
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>>8684152
Better than you do ya big dumb dumb

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This board would attract way less attention from underage shitposters if it wasn't called /lit/... I propose a name change to /boo/ - Books.
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Even better, call it /com/ for Comics & Books
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/pol/'s codename is already /boo/ because it's about spooks
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>>8684142
No. Fuck your comics.

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For an answer which cannot be expressed the question too cannot be expressed.
The riddle does not exist.
If a question can be put at all, then it can also be answered.
6.51
Scepticism is not irrefutable, but palpably senseless, if it would doubt where a question cannot be asked.
For doubt can only exist where there is a question; a question only where there is an answer, and this only where something can be said.
6.52
We feel that even if all possible scientific questions be asnwered, the problems of life have still not been touched at all. Of course there is then no question left, and just this is the answer.
6.521
The solution of the problem of life is seen in the vanishing of this problem.
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Ben Stiller BTFO
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nombre si esta dificil jajajaja xD
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Keep going.

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There is indeed the inexpressible. This shows itself; it is the mystical.

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The right method of philosophy would be this: To say nothing except what can be said, i.e. the propositions of natural science, i.e. something that has nothing to do with philosophy: and then always, when someone else wished to say something metaphysical, to demonstrate to him that he had given no meaning to certain signs in his propositions. This method would be unsatisfying to the other -- he would not have the feeling that we were teaching him philosophy --...
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what are some books that will thoroughly convince me that suicide is my best course of action?
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>>8683924

'Suicide Note' by Mitchell Heisman.

Halfway through you'll be so sick of the idea in general that you'll go outside and get on with your life out of sheer aggravation.
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>>8683935
already read it. It was actually pretty interesting. Maybe not particularly edifying but I reminded me of Industrial society and ts Future. its always ineresting when text goes along with action.
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>>8683924
The Conspiracy Against the Human Race by Thomas Ligotti

Haunted Universe: The True Knowledge of Enlightenment by Steven Norquist

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Meursault did nothing wrong: yes or no and why
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>>8683884
Yes because lyfe is ABSURD! Suns fucking annoying too.
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OP says yes, of course, his trial was absurd...
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the arab had it comin


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