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The point of this was to make a joke about over dramatic and melodramatic existential prose.

Is that not the main struggle of man itself, coming to terms with reality and our place in this universe. Realizing that we are just space dust floating in the endless abyss of the cosmos as we go on with our daily lives, knowing we are the most important person in our lives but then being just another face in someone else's. Each day we get older and wiser until eventually we become nothingness, we become the space dust we are born from as the cycle endlessly repeats until...
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>Hows my writing
>btw its meant to be bad XD
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>>8671943
That bad huh?
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>>8671937
The space dust and vast emptiness thing is pretty lame and unoregano

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What audiobooks and podcasts would you recommend?

I spend a lot of time commuting and going for long walks, and find audiobooks/podcasts are a great way to enhance those activities.

I recently finished the Dune audiobook, and found it very enjoyable, felt like a radioplay.
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Audible Frontiers' version of "Lord of Light" by Roger Zelaszny, read by Victor Bevine. It is my most "read" book by far, and every time I get fascinated by a new aspect of it.
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>>8671912
Listen to some TTC courses on literature.
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>>8671912
you would probably like the audio book for Snow Crash and The Diamond Age. Just make sure you get the official audio books and not the Libravox ones. They have tons of production value and come off very much like radioplays. The audio book of Enders Game is pretty slick as well and Neuromancer, though Neuromancer is abridged. And A Song of Ice and Fire, though they are a mixed bag. If I remember right the first three are very well done, but the 4th is kind of shitty.

There is a great podcast by James Urbaniak...
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need help with a name for an American Italian restaurant in my novel I'm writing. the restaurant is similar to Eastside Mario's. the best I've come up with is "Jimmy Vivottos mozzarella meatball".
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>>8671901
or like Jimmy Bugatti's macaroniville
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>>8671919
or like Ray Bodachinni's bocconcini bonanza
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Piero Pasquale's pizza & panini palace

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Brahs what is the best book about love but also has philosophical writing? For example something like Dostoevsky's writing but the main theme is love?

Also another unrelated question, what is the most optimistic philosophy that will help you achieve your wordly goals? I'm pretty sure it's Stoicism, I read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius and was filled with a new vigor and cherishment for life, and I feel like Marcus's entire outlook is very positive.
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>Also another unrelated question, what is the most optimistic philosophy that will help you achieve your wordly goals?

Pure ideology
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>>8671776
>>8671793
>>>8671776 (OP)
>Also another unrelated question, what is the most optimistic philosophy that will help you achieve your wordly goals?

my guy neeche
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>>8671776
>Brahs what is the best book about love but also has philosophical writing?

Symposium

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How do I overcome my compulsive perfectionism? Instead of writing something imperfect, I end up writing nothing at all. I know that it's completely irrational. I'm looking for practical solutions.
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Read Stirner. Realize perfection is a spook.
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Get drunk before writing.
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>>8671766
I was just about to say this.

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I am reading Infinite Jest and I'm on page 49. It seems like every single character is sad? Discuss
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yeah its a big sad book by a sad writer who thought his personal sadness was a national sadness
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>>8671706
John Green worked with DFW when DFW was a professor at Illinois State University, most of the work you see in the latter half of Infinite Jest is stolen right out of John's manuscripts for Looking for Alaska. It's why LFA feels so scrappy, it was basically stolen out from under John's feet and then rushed to completion due to John's contract requirements.
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>>8671706

>It seems like every single character is sad?

I don't know. Does it seem that way? What are you asking us for? You're the one reading it.

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>We confront a crisis in scale when contemporary works are unable to sustain their ambitions. David Foster Wallace's Infinite Jest is such a work. When I read it in 1996, it had been many years since a young novelist had dared to invest such commitment. Sadly, it did not come off. The result was akin to a large penis, impressive at first sight but too big for the blood to create a fully functional erection. Wallace's novel never got more than semistiff.

What was he saying here?
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>>8671673
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>>8671673
>no citation

D-
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>>8671682
The Anatomy of Influence (2012)

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As a background I'm in my second year of university for journalism.
I like the idea of improving my prose mechanically, but writing in press style makes me want to kill myself. Everything feels restricted when I write, and I'm worried that I will subconsciously destroy my own style by writing in a journalistic fashion for school.
What are your thoughts on the matter /lit/? Do you think that journalistic writing is essential to be noticed in the modern world, that it helps mechanically, but should not be considered for style, or that it disgusts you?
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>>8671650
In general, journalistic writing should help you notice appropriate words and achieve nuance in meaning.
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>>8671665
I do enjoy the critical, discourse-oriented mindset encouraged by the style.

Are you suggesting that a journalistic style should be used as an analytic tool during the pre-writing / editing process as opposed to during the writing itself?
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>>8671650
For me the most fun is finding an angle and a bunch of good metaphors in almost all writing, so I don't really get you. But I don't know journalism courses either.

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Post your favourite non-fiction
Pic highly related, pretty much my favourite book period
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>>8671618

>Reddit, the book
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>>8671618
>my favorite book is one that doesn't even need text to be fully disproven
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>>8671618
Possibly one of the best-written books ever. I'm always surprised Levi doesn't get more love on /lit/, his prose is fantastic.

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What /lit/'s people think about "The Spirit of Science Fiction", the new posthumous work by Bolaño?
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i dont know

is it another big novel like 2666 or just a minor work?
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>>8671588

It has 256 pages.
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>>8671586

it feels like rape to me

they have been non stop publishing stuff he wrote and thought wasnt good enough for publishing.

It makes me think every married great writer should burn all in unpublished minor works to prevent his wife from publishing them after his death.

hey /lit/,
To what degree can you improve yourself as a writer?Am I doomed to sounding like I'm a high schooler?

>pic semi-related
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>>8671542
read more
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>>8671709
This
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>>8671542
write more

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Gather round, /lit./ It's time for Storytime with Georges Bataille.
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>>8671455
Fack off, mate
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They say that before there was day in the world, the gods came together in that which is named Teotihuacan. They said to one another: "O gods, who will have the burden of lighting the world?" Then to these words answered a god Tecuciztecatl, and he said: "I shall take the burden of lighting the world.” Once more the gods spoke, and they said: "Who will be another?" Then looked at one another, and deliberated on who the other should be. And none of them dared offer himself for that office.

All were afraid and declined. One of the gods,...
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And midnight having come, all the gods placed themselves about the hearth, called Teotexcalli. In this place the fire blazed four days. The aforementioned gods arranged themselves in two rows, some at one side of the fire, some at the other side. And then the two gods above mentioned placed themselves before the fire, between the two rows of gods, all of whom were standing. And then the gods spoke, and said to Tecuciztecatl: "How now, Tecuciztecatl! Go into the fire!” And then he braced himself to cast himself into the fire.

And since the fire was large...
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now, about the classics: i'll never let myself get memed into reading one again. they're simply not well-suited for the desensitised mind of a generation y'er such as myself. most of them also take up a bloody lot of shelf space. i'll stick to noir and postmodernist lit for now. who knows the feel.
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> the desensitised mind of a generation
> take up a bloody lot of shelf space

back to ----> /reddit/
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>>8671442
>doesn't seek true illumination
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>>8671442
>they're simply not well-suited for the desensitised mind of a generation y'er such as myself.


>Has identified a fault with himself.
>Has decided to accept and live with that fault rather than fix it

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Let's talk about this man /Lit/
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He made good points about people and society; but, rather than laugh and embrace the absurdity of life, he whined and moaned about it like a little bitch. The quantity and rate of his sake consumption was inspiring, though.
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Paul Reubens is a huge creep.
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he had a hard life

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Why do you need your philosophy to be in the form of a story?
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>>8671367
because when some philosophies work in theory they get blown apart in practice.
where are those Stirner fags at?
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I don't need it. The story is what needs a philosophy.
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this shit needs to end

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I was watching Jordan B Pearson's Maps of Meaning lectures. In them, he made a comment about how thinking, really thinking, is an exceptionally difficult activity. He suggested that 3-5% of the population can really think. Which, he added, was about the same percentage of people that can really read.

I'm not 100% sure what he means by this, but I imagine it's the ability to really work through problems, to dissect them and analyze them in various ways and come to unique conclusions. Regardless of what he meant, 3-5% of the best minds are capable of really...
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>psychology
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I suppose he is in that 3-5%?
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>>8671318
perhaps his ideal of "thinking" means thinking outside of ideology? I mean that's what he's obsessed with. I have watched some of his lectures but without context it's hard to tell.

>BOO HOO HOO WE HAVE TO SLEEP WITH MEN WE'RE NOT ATTRACTED TO
did i miss anything?
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>>8671226
yes of course
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>>8671226
Which is funny because she looked like a pug
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>>8671233
like what

See this floating around on /lit/ threads and was just given a copy from a friend who is moving.

Is it worth the investment of time? What are some of the notable themes? How is the language (edition I have is pic)
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>>8671205
Its one of the greatest contemporary works of our time. Read in spanish if possible
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>>8671205
Apparently Dracula makes a cameo.
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>>8671205
>What are some of the notable themes?

globalism

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>Bob Dylan gets a Nobel Prize before this guy
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>>8671082
And he will never receive one. He's already retired.
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Sing us one of his works if he is so good.
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Next time.

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What's the best coming of age novel?
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Portrait of the Artist
Kristin Lavrandsdatter
Neapolitan Novels (I really enjoyed these at least)
I guess you could argue Hamlet is
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My diary desu, also what a stupid picture you have there.
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A Tree grows in Brooklyn.

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If I just wrote the next Ulysses/Gravity's Rainbow/Infinite Jest, which publisher do I send it to to get it published
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>>8671067
Compile it as an epub, upload it to mega and paste the link on /lit/.
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Nearest trashcan
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>>8671073
I will do that after I land a hot publishing deal
>>8671074
That would be wasteful

I am a literature pleb. Where should I start if I want to get into literature?

I've only read a few books that I really liked like pic related

I also liked The Long Dark Teatime of the Soul, the Hitchhiker's Guide series, and Fight Club.

I've read all the Harry Potter books but I thought they were dumb.

I tried to read Infinite Jest and The Pale King but they were too much for me and I couldn't finish it.

I'm basically a retard when it comes to books. Please help me /lit/
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>>8671047
Read that book in your OP and tell me if it's good. I figure pulizer prize winners are a good place for plebs.
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>>8671058
I have read it. I thought it was really good.
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>>8671062
Oh. I missed that.

Read American Psycho. It's very funny in an absurd kind of way.

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What does /lit/ jam to when writing?
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https://soundcloud.com/thomas-evoy/the-least-funny-dk-rap-ever
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>>8671044
Usually metal desu
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>>8671044
Tim hecker
Stars of the lid
Autechre
Gas
Colin Stetson

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Who is the greatest living philosopher and why is it pic related?
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That's not Alasdair MacIntyre
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>>8671026
>>8671028

bruh

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what does literature do better than movies? why should one not just watch movies or theatre or listen to music?
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>>8670978
Clarity, structure, artifice.
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what do movies do better than literature? why should one not just read books or watch theatre or listen to music?
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>>8670996
thats the question... i'm not trying to be snarky and say don't read books, i want to know what you guys think about how they contrast or are unique

I'm not sure what to make of this
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It doesn't matter.
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Well you could make a very nice hat.
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>>8670971
Haha

Is Steven Pinker a hack?
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Here's okay. Ignores a lot of factors. His work on HBD is good and refreshing because he's literally one of the only main stream thinkers who brings up the elephant in the room.
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he seems legit

>>8671147
Whats the elephant in the room?
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>>8671162
HBD the topic

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Boy, I mean, that is to say, holy...
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>>8670903
i want more
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I want to get into Gaddis. Should I start with Recognitions or JR?
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>>8671678
If you like zebra music, read JR.
If you like metaphorical cannibalism, read The Recognitions.

What's some good occult /lit/?
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Albert Pike - Morals and Dogma
Crowley's assorted works
Carl fucking Jung.

good luck understanding any of them, /x/tard.
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>>8670840

Everything Campbell
Everything Jung, especially Seven Sermons to the Dead
Liber Null and Psychonaut by Peter Caroll
Book of Lambspring
Foucalt's Pendulum
The Trouble with Being Born
Meditations by Aurelius
Siddhartha
Liber Samekh And Liber DCCC
Tibetan Book of the Dead
Tao te Ching
The Enchiridion
The Bhagavad Gita
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The Four Zoas

Finnegans Wake

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“You will become way less concerned with what other people think of you when you realize how seldom they do.”

I know this is pretty reddity, but it's stuck with me. Made me feel better through highschool, actually
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Where is the woman who said she'd come. She said she would come.
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>>8670822

"The woman who kills you is always your mother"


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